IRC log for #maemo on 20161226

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09:29.48DocScrutinizer51merry xmess
09:30.09L29Ahallahu akbar
09:32.40DocScrutinizer51L29Ah: watch out! Sigyn is in here!
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10:38.34kerioDocScrutinizer51: HAPPY EASTER JOERGY! ^-^
10:39.11DocScrutinizer51ta :D
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10:39.35keriowhat did santa bring you this year
10:39.57DocScrutinizer51nervous breakdown
10:40.06kerioother than the deaths of the red army choir and george michael, apparently
10:40.12kerionice
10:40.17keriofuck 2016
10:41.50DocScrutinizer51and the realization that it took me only 8 years to optimize my complete live into total fail from overoptimaization
10:42.05DocScrutinizer51life*
10:43.05kerio:(
10:43.35DocScrutinizer51to put it simpler: once you managed to be 24/7 online, you'll notice that more time doesn't mean more productive time
10:44.38bencohtrue
10:45.03WizzupFor me, it's mostly IRC, and it's not that hard to simply don't open that screen/tmux
10:45.12Wizzupor run several irc clients :)
10:45.34kerioWizzup: you can compress the irc time if you have an always-online client, anyway
10:52.35Wizzupkerio: that I do
11:32.49KotCzarnyor see irc window in the bottom part of the screen and notice the highlights
11:32.56KotCzarnyand ignore everything else
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11:40.01sixwheeledbeastI got a nervous breakdown this year too, they must have been on sale.
11:40.31KotCzarnythrow all the fucks you could give away and live your life wholeheartedly
11:49.18sixwheeledbeastIf only it where that easy....
11:49.44KotCzarnyit is
11:49.57KotCzarnyonce you sort out what's not really needed
11:58.24merlin1991like money ;)
12:06.04Vajband sleep
12:15.07KotCzarnysure, money, but how MUCH money?
12:15.22KotCzarnyas for sleep, prioritize
12:16.17KotCzarnyonce a month? yes. more than 2 times a week? bad idea in the long run
12:17.04KotCzarnybad idea == negative health/efficiency consequences outweigh short benefits
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14:03.36KotCzarnyhttps://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22329762-700-consciousness-on-off-switch-discovered-deep-in-brain/#.U7dJq_ldWiV
14:03.47KotCzarnyyay for human zombies on demand
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16:26.16Vajbstore visited. T420 with ssd asking 299e
16:26.50KotCzarny:)
16:27.06KotCzarnystill better laptop than any you would get NEW in the supermarket
16:27.12KotCzarnyleaps and bounds better
16:28.42keriowell i think you can get a macbook pro in supermarkets
16:28.48kerioat least the big ones
16:28.51KotCzarnyfor 300eur?
16:28.53keriowith dedicated electronics departments
16:28.55kerioofc not
16:28.59KotCzarnysee?
16:29.07KotCzarnywe are talking 100-150eur range
16:29.32kerioi spent more than that for a handheld videogame console :<
16:29.44KotCzarnyspolied brat
16:29.48KotCzarny*spolied
16:29.49KotCzarnydrat.
16:29.52KotCzarny*spoiled
16:31.42keriothe new 3ds is a great console
16:32.17Vajbyeah im looking for maximum performance with as little as possible
16:33.04kerioKotCzarny: you should buy one ;o
16:33.09kerioit's got mario
16:33.12kerioand mario
16:33.18kerioand zelda
16:33.18KotCzarnyi've got my banana
16:33.22kerio*and* mario! :o
16:33.27KotCzarnyand banana
16:33.43CatButtsscratches butt
16:37.18kerioKotCzarny: also if you do some minorly questionable things, you can download games from nintendo's servers
16:37.20keriofor free
16:38.07KotCzarnymy backlog of games on steam assures i shouldnt be bootlegging anything new soon
16:38.30kerio(it's probably the last time nintendo puts the entirety of the authentication on the client side)
16:38.41KotCzarnylol, seriously?
16:38.52kerioi am not kidding
16:39.11kerioonce you get full access on the console itself
16:39.12KotCzarnylike, total real done and done seriously?
16:39.39kerioyou just need to acquire a 128 bit title-specific key
16:39.52KotCzarnyotoh nintendo always was more for players/fun than money grabbing (which is sad that money grabbers are doing better monetarily)
16:39.53kerioand then you download the actual content from nintendo's CDN
16:40.27kerioprobably because putting the whole CDN behind authentication would make things too costly
16:56.40CatButtstoo bad nintendo is anal about its IP
16:56.54KotCzarnywho isnt?
16:57.19CatButtsNintendo is especially harsh
16:58.08KotCzarnythen i take my words back
16:58.11CatButtshell, even Sega PR poked fun at Nintendo for bringing down fan games
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17:19.06Pali0xFFFF 0.7 flasher and firmware generator was released! http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1521062#post1521062
17:20.45Vajboh yeah forgot to mention that that laptop came with backbag!
17:22.29KotCzarnyfirmware generator?
17:22.38KotCzarnyas in flashable-fiasco-image generator?
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17:40.36PaliKotCzarny: yes, it can generate FIASCO files
17:40.48KotCzarnyyay!
17:40.57Palialternative to proprietary nokia binary fiasco-gen
17:41.09KotCzarnywonderful world of custom maemo distros ahead us!
17:41.27Palialso flasher, can flash via usb everything except mmc images to Nokia N900
17:41.37KotCzarnyshucks.
17:41.47KotCzarnyi was hoping for emmc os :/
17:42.02KotCzarnystill it might be split in 2 flash phases anyway
17:42.35Paliyou can create small linux RAM distro which export uSD and eMMC via mass storage
17:42.39Paliand load it via 0xFFFF
17:42.59sicelo-Vajb: congrats!
17:43.02Paliand then you can do what you want with eMMC via usb mass storage
17:43.17KotCzarnythat could work
17:43.27Palianyway, exporting is already supported by bootmenu Maemo extras package
17:44.11Pali0xFFFF supports also cold-flashing, in case bootloader in nand is erased/damaged
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18:12.01Vajbsicelo-: well i didn't actually buy it. Just looked at it in the store ;)
18:14.19sicelo-haha, don't look too much. it will be bought. the X220 i saw a day ago .. gone
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18:22.13Vajbwell there was maybe 20of them all in backbag and with pricetag 299e
18:22.38KotCzarnydont worry, in a few months price will drop in that shop
18:22.55KotCzarnyin the meantime find all classifieds sites that operate in your area/country
18:23.06KotCzarnyand browse them once a week
18:24.05sicelo-KotCzarny: what's this one? surely not a regular X220, or is it? https://www.olx.co.za/ad/lenovo-think-pad-x220-i5-ID163YcI.html#39dba3cd23
18:24.41Vajbthere were also one x230 in a bag. 429e
18:32.37KotCzarnyhmm
18:32.43KotCzarnyi wonder if there is x220t
18:33.00KotCzarnyhttp://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X220_Tablet
18:33.01KotCzarnyyup
18:33.56KotCzarnyvajb: X-series, ultraportable, 2 screen size (12"), 2 series generation, 0 series subgen
18:33.59KotCzarnyor something like that
18:35.18Vajbah thats the model with separable screen
18:35.25KotCzarnyhmm, or even something more convolutes, apparently series generation is quite closely tied to cpu gen (ie. x240 -> i5-4xxx etc)
18:36.01KotCzarnyand x260 - i5/7-6xxx
18:36.02KotCzarnyetc
18:38.16Vajbjust chechking specs of the t420 it seems not that bad
18:38.26Vajb8gb ram and 160gb ssd
18:38.57Vajbi5 2520M or 2540M
18:40.29Vajbheh they had 60 of them
18:41.13KotCzarnyyou might even consider t410
18:41.28KotCzarnybut t400 is probably core2duo, which you dont want (most likely)
18:41.55sicelo-problem? (or just old?)
18:42.08KotCzarnyi-cores are much more effective
18:42.22KotCzarnyand eache newer gen improves over previous
18:42.52KotCzarnyif he wants core2duo t60/t61 would be much cheaper and speedy enough
18:43.22KotCzarnybut with 2nd hand laptops its mostly catching good deal
18:48.29Vajbi'll have to scout for few weeks, but i think this might be good period. Somebody might have got new laptop as a present lately
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20:37.33bencohyay for new 0xffff <3
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