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| 07:59.01 | KotCzarny | wizzup: keep in mind on those q8 tablets, uart is usually multiplexed with sdcard, so its either uart debug or sdcard (at least that's what i remember) |
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| 08:22.04 | freemangordon | parazyd: did it finish finally? |
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| 09:32.36 | vectis3 | Hmm, I'm getting the following message on my phone in a yellow box: Unable to receive or send new messages. Device storage is full. Remove data to free memory. |
| 09:32.41 | vectis3 | sqlite3 el-v1.db "PRAGMA inegrity_check" = SQL error disk I/O error |
| 09:33.18 | vectis3 | This seems to happen every six weeks or so. |
| 09:33.20 | KotCzarny | something in dmesg? |
| 09:35.13 | vectis3 | Can't see anything. rebooting usually clears it. |
| 09:35.29 | vectis3 | the error that is |
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| 09:49.05 | freemangordon | vectis3: did you run fsck on MyDocs and home? |
| 09:59.03 | vectis3 | how do I unmount /home? umount: cannotumount /home: Device or resource busy |
| 09:59.25 | vectis3 | *cannot umount |
| 10:00.35 | KotCzarny | you cant. run rescueos or something maybe |
| 10:00.55 | freemangordon | vectis3: are you on cssu? |
| 10:01.35 | vectis3 | The error goes if I reboot. |
| 10:01.58 | freemangordon | that doesn't answer my question :) |
| 10:02.43 | vectis3 | lol that was an answer for KotCzarny |
| 10:03.21 | Wizzup | KotCzarny: the pins are visible on the board (uart) |
| 10:03.24 | KotCzarny | vectis3: but you might do the fs check anyway |
| 10:04.03 | freemangordon | vectis3: another option - do a backup of your messages, rename el-v1.db to something else and reboot the phone |
| 10:04.13 | freemangordon | then restore the backup |
| 10:04.25 | freemangordon | but, if fs is corrupt, this won;t help much |
| 10:04.55 | freemangordon | vectis3: so, is your device on cssu? |
| 10:05.46 | vectis3 | not sure how to check |
| 10:06.04 | freemangordon | vectis3: settings->about |
| 10:06.11 | freemangordon | what is SW version there? |
| 10:06.52 | vectis3 | 20.2010.36-2 |
| 10:06.56 | KotCzarny | fmg: idea new powerkey menu option: 'reboot and fsck everything' |
| 10:07.15 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: on cssu fsck is done on every reboot |
| 10:07.24 | freemangordon | with modern fsck |
| 10:08.17 | freemangordon | vectis3: do you have "About Community SSU" icon in settings? |
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| 10:08.39 | KotCzarny | fmg: i meant force fsck |
| 10:08.40 | freemangordon | in "General" section |
| 10:08.50 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: yes, it is force fsck |
| 10:09.13 | KotCzarny | o.O |
| 10:09.21 | KotCzarny | on every reboot? |
| 10:09.38 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: you can check the results in /var/log/$something_fsck |
| 10:09.40 | freemangordon | yes |
| 10:10.01 | vectis3 | fmg: no. |
| 10:11.00 | freemangordon | vectis3: I'll strongly recomment to install it |
| 10:11.04 | freemangordon | ~cssu |
| 10:11.04 | infobot | methinks cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) |
| 10:11.39 | KotCzarny | fmg: that seems excessive, though if device goes down due to battery empty, its preferred. but with controlled reboot/poweroff..? |
| 10:11.56 | KotCzarny | maybe set a flag 'clean shutdown' ? |
| 10:12.26 | Wizzup | why not just fsck? it's inexpensive |
| 10:12.59 | KotCzarny | force checking extfs could take a while |
| 10:13.06 | freemangordon | Wizzup: fsck is broken in PR1.3, it does more harm than good |
| 10:13.38 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: I know, but... |
| 10:14.22 | freemangordon | vectis3: another option is as KotCzarny said - boot rescueos and fsck from there |
| 10:14.29 | freemangordon | ~rescueos |
| 10:14.29 | infobot | rescueos is, like, http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/ |
| 10:16.15 | vectis3 | ok, thanks for the suggestions. |
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| 10:59.02 | Wizzup | freemangordon: aha |
| 11:11.34 | Wizzup | freemangordon: got a link to the out of tree wifi driver that you found? |
| 11:11.42 | freemangordon | just a sec |
| 11:13.10 | freemangordon | Wizzup: https://github.com/jwrdegoede/rtl8723bs.git |
| 11:14.04 | KotCzarny | wizzup: http://linux-sunxi.org/Wifi#RDA |
| 11:14.22 | KotCzarny | realtek too |
| 11:15.11 | freemangordon | OMG, mesa build seems to package .debs |
| 11:15.17 | freemangordon | I can;t believe it :) |
| 11:15.41 | KotCzarny | fmg: you cat just istall radoim debs, omg! |
| 11:15.45 | KotCzarny | *cat |
| 11:15.48 | KotCzarny | drat. |
| 11:15.51 | KotCzarny | *cant |
| 11:15.56 | freemangordon | random? |
| 11:15.59 | KotCzarny | my nnbbbbnnn is dirty |
| 11:16.11 | freemangordon | I am building mesa on the tablet |
| 11:16.27 | freemangordon | wouldn't call that random |
| 11:17.29 | Wizzup | freemangordon: you mean that mesa build also makes a deb? |
| 11:17.42 | freemangordon | Wizzup: I did apt-get source |
| 11:17.46 | Wizzup | ah |
| 11:17.53 | Wizzup | it'll still be a very old version though :( |
| 11:18.02 | freemangordon | and enabled llvmpipe in rules for armhf |
| 11:18.07 | Wizzup | also, seeing that hans has that wifi driver on his github, I expect it to be merged soon :) |
| 11:18.17 | freemangordon | the same version has no probles in x86 VM |
| 11:18.57 | Wizzup | alright |
| 11:19.06 | Wizzup | I just meant speed/feature wise |
| 11:19.07 | Wizzup | back in a bit |
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| 11:24.29 | jonwil | hi |
| 11:24.48 | freemangordon | jonwil: hi |
| 11:25.01 | jonwil | Good job finishing clockd:) |
| 11:25.08 | freemangordon | :) |
| 11:25.41 | jonwil | what do you plan to do next? |
| 11:25.52 | freemangordon | run h-d on allwinner tablet |
| 11:26.27 | KotCzarny | or in other words: run h-d on plain de*an |
| 11:26.28 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 11:26.33 | freemangordon | :nod: |
| 11:36.20 | jonwil | I still cant get gtfs2db to produce usable output so my plans for a public transit app on the N900 are on hold |
| 11:36.40 | freemangordon | ok. h-d runs on the tablet :D |
| 11:36.45 | jonwil | Although I could work on the REST API journey planner part :) |
| 11:36.56 | KotCzarny | fmg: screenshot! |
| 11:37.07 | KotCzarny | well, photo! |
| 11:37.21 | Wizzup | 12:36 < freemangordon> ok. h-d runs on the tablet :D |
| 11:37.26 | Wizzup | photo! :) |
| 11:38.59 | freemangordon | lemme copy the backgrounds first |
| 11:40.36 | freemangordon | well, it is slow with sw rendering, but still |
| 11:43.48 | jonwil | Do you have any further plans to reverse engineer things at this point or have you done all you plan to? |
| 11:56.39 | freemangordon | jonwil: I have no plans, will do it as it comes |
| 11:56.45 | jonwil | ok :) |
| 12:00.43 | jonwil | finishing libcodelockui seems like it would be useful... |
| 12:01.10 | jonwil | I got as far with that as I could go |
| 12:01.50 | freemangordon | yeah, I might look at it |
| 12:02.22 | jonwil | I just wish I could make some progress on my coding contest entry :( |
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| 12:04.08 | racheta | hello |
| 12:04.58 | racheta | "Sorry, it seems that you are using an IP address or a proxy that is listed in the forum anti spam blacklist. |
| 12:05.02 | racheta | Feel free to contact our staff on irc freenode #maemo channel." |
| 12:05.11 | KotCzarny | change ip? |
| 12:05.49 | racheta | tried resetting the router to change ip but seems my ISP doesn't change ip that often |
| 12:06.18 | KotCzarny | and whoever had your ip before, did bad things |
| 12:06.58 | KotCzarny | and not a single one, multiple |
| 12:07.28 | racheta | maybe but i am suffering because of that person |
| 12:07.29 | sixwheeledbeast | ~unbanip |
| 12:07.29 | infobot | i guess unbanip is please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or contact tmo maintainer chem|st in here |
| 12:09.57 | racheta | i've mailed techstaff with my current ip |
| 12:10.11 | racheta | hoping they unban it quick |
| 12:10.45 | racheta | can I change my n900's gsm band to work with LTE only sim card? |
| 12:11.17 | sixwheeledbeast | N900 isn't LTE device |
| 12:11.29 | sixwheeledbeast | 2g and 3g |
| 12:12.03 | racheta | can I R&D changing the gsm band manually? |
| 12:12.16 | KotCzarny | you can install applet |
| 12:12.40 | racheta | name of applet? |
| 12:12.53 | KotCzarny | "3G/2G Mode Selection Applet" |
| 12:12.55 | sixwheeledbeast | techstaff will not be around immediately it may take some time to unban an IP. They may decided it's best not to unban it. |
| 12:13.27 | sixwheeledbeast | You can just go into settings and change without applet |
| 12:13.41 | sixwheeledbeast | Or simply set it to Dual mode. |
| 12:13.45 | KotCzarny | swb, i've found applet to be quite handy |
| 12:14.06 | KotCzarny | especially in bad coverage area, or when modem gets stuck a bit |
| 12:14.31 | sixwheeledbeast | I use it too but if it's just for diagnoses then install may not be required. |
| 12:14.59 | racheta | i want to manually change the specterum i.e. to say 1800Mhz or 850Mhz |
| 12:15.21 | KotCzarny | racheta: one time or more than one? |
| 12:16.45 | racheta | the sim which i want to use owns 3 bands i.e. 1800, 850, 2300Mhz so will try changing to these bands and see it gets any coverage |
| 12:17.36 | KotCzarny | you can just leave it as default and it will use in dual band |
| 12:18.27 | KotCzarny | (ie. select whatever it thinks is best) |
| 12:19.17 | sixwheeledbeast | Leave it on Dual and it will select the ones available on your network. |
| 12:20.03 | racheta | i'm inserting the sim now, hope its activated. bought about an hour ago |
| 12:27.41 | racheta | seems its not activated yet |
| 12:27.47 | racheta | I'll be back later |
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| 12:48.46 | Android_808 | freemangordon: I *think* the wallpaper we had to copy is generated by hildon-home-wallpapers. Source available, just needs porting/updating. On the Eee (with Stretch image) at the moment so a bit limited in what I can do. However, profileclient is working on here so I'm thinking the issue is with needing to update osso-af-startup. |
| 12:49.15 | KotCzarny | fmg: where's the photo? |
| 12:49.19 | freemangordon | Android_808: great! |
| 12:49.36 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: I want first mali gpu running, so h-d to be acually usable |
| 12:49.43 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 12:51.52 | freemangordon | quemu in SB fails, nee to reboot :( |
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| 13:01.21 | Android_808 | fmg: with regard to h-d, we still have a few options available with it I haven't explored. As stated elsewhere, we can't replace mx with st from gnome-shell as it relies on too much gnome. We could however still use a stripped down version of tidy, updated to use clutter1. libchampain/champlain/chamsomething did the same (mx>tidy>own tidy derived) |
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| 13:56.46 | parazyd | freemangordon: https://pub.parazyd.cf/tmp/mesa/ |
| 13:56.49 | parazyd | here |
| 13:56.53 | parazyd | grab whatever you need :) |
| 13:56.59 | parazyd | i hope i got it right |
| 13:57.30 | freemangordon | parazyd: thanks, I already compiled it on-device :D |
| 13:57.39 | parazyd | bah |
| 13:57.44 | parazyd | i woke up too late :D |
| 13:57.51 | freemangordon | with llvmpipe h-d runs, but like a snail |
| 13:58.03 | KotCzarny | fmg, even with fbturbo? |
| 13:58.07 | freemangordon | yes |
| 13:58.18 | KotCzarny | shucks. |
| 13:58.20 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: no 3d, I need mali.ko build |
| 13:58.34 | KotCzarny | but that also means n900 is in trouble |
| 13:59.03 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: why? |
| 13:59.10 | freemangordon | we have SGX forward-portd |
| 13:59.17 | KotCzarny | wow |
| 13:59.18 | freemangordon | SGX kernel driver that is |
| 13:59.30 | KotCzarny | any chance of mainlining it or just a patch? |
| 13:59.35 | freemangordon | no chance |
| 14:00.00 | KotCzarny | oh well, better than nothing then, good job |
| 14:07.50 | bencoh | 15:59 < freemangordon> we have SGX forward-portd |
| 14:07.58 | bencoh | "we" as in ... you and a few other guys? |
| 14:08.15 | freemangordon | bencoh: we as pali's n900 tree on github |
| 14:08.24 | bencoh | nice |
| 14:09.16 | bencoh | what's preventing it from getting mainlined though? |
| 14:09.26 | KotCzarny | binary blob? |
| 14:09.41 | bencoh | in kernel? doubt it |
| 14:09.42 | bencoh | (?) |
| 14:10.07 | KotCzarny | just a wildguess |
| 14:10.17 | Pali | binary blob in userspace |
| 14:10.24 | Pali | non standard interface |
| 14:10.28 | Pali | kernel <--> userspace |
| 14:10.40 | Pali | dirty code, not suitable for kernel |
| 14:10.45 | bencoh | huhu |
| 14:11.02 | bencoh | isn't it common to all sgx customers, or at least all omap*/sgx ? |
| 14:11.21 | Pali | does not matter if it is common or not |
| 14:12.23 | bencoh | no I mean, the "non-standard" interface |
| 14:12.50 | Pali | it is some sgx specific... |
| 14:13.20 | bencoh | and people don't want it in kernel, even if it'd allow using sgx devices? |
| 14:13.28 | Pali | yes |
| 14:13.33 | bencoh | okay |
| 14:13.40 | Pali | it does not make any sense |
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| 14:14.05 | Pali | it is vendor locked api without documentation |
| 14:14.27 | bencoh | sure, but once it's there and there is no other way of using the chip/device... |
| 14:15.02 | Pali | and there is just binary blob which can use it |
| 14:15.06 | Pali | this is no go |
| 14:15.20 | bencoh | I see ... okay :) |
| 14:15.24 | bencoh | well, nice job anyway :) |
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| 18:52.41 | freemangordon | guys: http://46.249.74.23/allwinner/20161127_001.mp4 |
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| 19:10.09 | sicelo | freemangordon: yay! looks awesome. so what OS is that? devuan? |
| 19:10.47 | freemangordon | yes |
| 19:12.21 | princefakhan | for some reason, chrome can't display the video |
| 19:12.35 | sicelo | princefakhan: download it |
| 19:13.12 | freemangordon | princefakhan: yes, download it |
| 19:13.21 | princefakhan | that's what I did |
| 19:13.24 | NotKit | so it can run normal desktop apps? |
| 19:13.40 | freemangordon | what you see in the video is firefox in devuan |
| 19:13.44 | sicelo | princefakhan: play it with a media player then, not a browser ;) |
| 19:15.30 | princefakhan | so what's wrong with systemd anyway |
| 19:15.39 | princefakhan | linux community seems to hate it |
| 19:18.43 | NotKit | would on-screen keyboard work with non-Maemo apps? |
| 19:19.01 | freemangordon | hard to say at this stage |
| 19:20.22 | princefakhan | that's up to the app I believe |
| 19:20.37 | KotCzarny | nope, that's up to maemo |
| 19:20.48 | KotCzarny | ie. it should work automagically |
| 19:21.13 | princefakhan | I wonder what he means by "non-maemo" apps |
| 19:21.14 | KotCzarny | though it would probably need some tuning regarding detecting hw kb |
| 19:21.35 | freemangordon | sure |
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| 19:59.41 | xes | freemangordon: can you share the the model type or the link of the tablet you are using? |
| 20:04.53 | KotCzarny | xes: q8 clone, a33 based |
| 20:05.31 | KotCzarny | they are really almost the same hw wise (what differs usually is wifi chip and touchscreen/lcd) |
| 20:08.43 | freemangordon | xes: seems to be a-star KVT49L |
| 20:09.02 | freemangordon | but that shouldn't really matter, as KotCzarny said |
| 20:11.08 | KotCzarny | xes: just go to aliexpress.com and search for allwinner a33, then choose whatever suits you the best |
| 20:11.56 | KotCzarny | keep in mind that while its quite well supported by community, vendor does bad code/docs |
| 20:17.39 | KotCzarny | one thing for sure, there is community supported mainlining process, which simply rules |
| 20:24.16 | KotCzarny | which when you think of it is a bit similar to maemo state |
| 20:40.20 | Wizzup | so any A33 tablet is OK |
| 20:40.38 | Wizzup | mostly |
| 20:41.59 | xes | freemangordon: KotCzarny: very interesting. Let's see if i manage to find it.. |
| 20:58.58 | KotCzarny | if you are interested in aarch64 devel work there should be a64 based tablets sooner or later too (i guess) |
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| 22:35.30 | totalizator | hi guys, I'm looking for a cheapest possible e-ink pc display - any ideas? |
| 22:36.40 | totalizator | and this a33 tablet - gosh - like I haven't spent too much this month already |
| 22:37.53 | Wizzup | totalizator: they're like 50 euro or so |
| 22:38.05 | totalizator | the tablets? |
| 22:38.23 | totalizator | $35 with a free shipping :D |
| 22:38.40 | Wizzup | yeah, I didn't get one from ebay, not sure about those exactly |
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