| 00:04.17 | freemangordon | Pali: on how many cores? |
| 00:04.37 | Pali | dpkg-buildpackage |
| 00:04.41 | Pali | no idea |
| 00:04.51 | Pali | scratchbox in qemu-system |
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| 00:10.10 | parazyd | qemu is very slow with compiling |
| 00:10.16 | parazyd | especially when non-native |
| 00:12.05 | freemangordon | gcc is native in SB afaik |
| 00:12.20 | freemangordon | it is just that qt is huge |
| 00:12.24 | Pali | qemu-system-x86_64 |
| 00:12.44 | Pali | in which is running old ubuntu with chrotted scratchbox |
| 00:12.53 | Pali | in which is running arm cross compiler |
| 00:13.05 | freemangordon | Pali: did you check if mce in cssu-devel matches github? |
| 00:13.21 | Pali | yes |
| 00:13.24 | Pali | matches |
| 00:13.47 | freemangordon | ok. as I don;t remember if I pushed it |
| 00:13.54 | freemangordon | seems like yes |
| 00:14.40 | Pali | freemangordon: can you build new qt4 with thumb? |
| 00:14.52 | Pali | my non-thumb version for cssu-devel is still compiling... |
| 00:22.04 | freemangordon | Pali: tomorrow |
| 00:22.08 | Pali | ok |
| 00:22.20 | freemangordon | but what to do with it after building? |
| 01:16.30 | Pali | new version disable ssl2 which should have been disabled for years! |
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| 07:31.41 | freemangordon | jonwil: hi! |
| 07:31.50 | jonwil | hi |
| 07:34.16 | freemangordon | jonwil: feeling adventurous? https://github.com/community-ssu/iphbd :) |
| 07:34.43 | freemangordon | tested on x86_64, seems working |
| 07:34.43 | jonwil | Yeah I saw that g |
| 07:34.46 | jonwil | good job :) |
| 07:35.01 | jonwil | Whats next? :) |
| 07:35.04 | freemangordon | but without the kernel module, so |
| 07:35.23 | freemangordon | well, this is all done in the context of porting ildon to gtk3 |
| 07:35.27 | freemangordon | *hildon |
| 07:35.40 | freemangordon | so it depends on what will be needed next |
| 07:36.48 | jonwil | libtime/clockd seem like useful targets (they are used all over the system by all sorts of things) |
| 07:37.28 | freemangordon | yeah, I was thinking about it |
| 07:38.01 | jonwil | sysinfod/libsysinfo/etc may also be worthwhile |
| 07:38.18 | freemangordon | yep |
| 07:41.41 | jonwil | oh and libplayback |
| 07:43.32 | freemangordon | hmm, only maemo kernel has iphb.ko, no such module in the other nokia kernels |
| 07:55.33 | bencoh | is that supposed to wake apps in "sync" in order not to wake up cpu too much? |
| 08:00.20 | freemangordon | yes |
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| 08:25.00 | jonwil | Still getting nowhere with my entry for the maemo coding contest :( |
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| 10:02.47 | parazyd | freemangordon: isn't iphb a netfilter thing? |
| 10:04.49 | parazyd | freemangordon: i have the source for it if needed btw |
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| 10:33.56 | jonwil | source to what? The source for the kernel module is in the standard Maemo kernel source, the source to libiphb was originally released by Nokia in a Git repo and the source for iphbd was reverse engineered by freemangordon (and along with libiphb now lives in https://github.com/community-ssu/iphbd) |
| 10:36.17 | jonwil | Its always good when another entry in the table on http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages turns to green because someone reverse engineered another package :) |
| 10:37.38 | jonwil | I just wish there was more I could reverse engineer |
| 10:37.46 | jonwil | and help turn table entries green via FOSS clones |
| 10:38.29 | bencoh | :) |
| 10:40.54 | jonwil | I think there are many entries in that table that will never turn green though |
| 10:41.46 | jonwil | csd-* for example |
| 10:44.28 | jonwil | or pulseaudio-module-nokia-* |
| 10:44.37 | jonwil | well pulseaudio-module-nokia-voice |
| 10:44.44 | jonwil | or rtcom-call-ui |
| 10:44.54 | jonwil | or tablet-browser-* |
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| 10:46.32 | parazyd | well in due time :) |
| 10:46.37 | parazyd | things are moving well |
| 10:47.20 | jonwil | I dont think there is anyone out there with both the skills AND the time/interest to reverse engineer the really tricky stuff (pulseaudio-module-nokia-voice being right up there) |
| 10:48.20 | jonwil | Short of a miracle occurring and the code falling out of the sky or something, I doubt we will ever have a fully reverse engineered clone of pulseaudio-module-nokia-voice |
| 10:48.35 | jonwil | Which is a pitty since its one of the key pieces needed to get Maemo working on the Neo900... |
| 10:49.04 | bencoh | pretty sure it can do without |
| 10:49.21 | jonwil | Trust me, it cant |
| 10:50.26 | jonwil | I have been deep inside pulseuaudio-module-nokia-voice and the Maemo audio system in general and I can tell you its going to be needed (or at least some of what it does is needed) if we want usable audio on the thing with Maemo |
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| 11:14.54 | jonwil | wishes he could make progress on his entry for the Maemo coding contest... :( |
| 11:37.12 | Pali | freemangordon: iphb.ko for dkms is ready: https://github.com/community-ssu/iphb-dkms |
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| 12:06.47 | freemangordon | Pali: I ported the driver for newer kernel, unfortunately it crashes both 3.16 and 4.4 :( |
| 12:07.20 | freemangordon | Pali: ali, I think dkms should be included in iphb |
| 12:07.26 | freemangordon | *also |
| 12:07.42 | freemangordon | however, lets ckech those oopses |
| 12:07.47 | freemangordon | *check |
| 12:08.02 | Pali | did you tried that my pushed version? |
| 12:08.10 | freemangordon | no |
| 12:08.14 | Pali | so use it |
| 12:08.18 | Pali | I ported some functions |
| 12:08.22 | freemangordon | hmm |
| 12:08.25 | freemangordon | ok |
| 12:08.35 | Pali | there are #ifdefs for 3.13 and 4.1 kernels |
| 12:08.54 | freemangordon | same here |
| 12:09.07 | freemangordon | but, you use the one from 2.6.32 |
| 12:09.58 | Pali | yes, from 2.6.32 |
| 12:10.06 | Pali | but there are only minimal changes |
| 12:10.16 | Pali | plus it containd kernel-power null deref fix |
| 12:11.07 | freemangordon | yes, I have that fix here as well |
| 12:11.15 | freemangordon | and yes, the changes are minimal |
| 12:11.28 | freemangordon | Pali: gimme some time to gather the oops backtrace |
| 12:11.33 | Pali | ok |
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| 12:30.00 | jonwil | I wish my skills allowed me to contribute more to the N900 community. |
| 12:30.11 | jon_y | port USB type-C drivers to maeomo :) |
| 12:30.14 | jonwil | But what I have contributed to date certainly isn't useless |
| 12:30.28 | jonwil | And I dont know the first thing about USB or writing kernel drivers |
| 12:30.41 | jon_y | eh, its just plain C code |
| 12:31.06 | jon_y | you just need to trace the code |
| 12:31.17 | jon_y | and see how it works underneath |
| 12:31.30 | jonwil | I know enough about kernel drivers to know that I dont know enough about kernel drivers to even think about trying to write one |
| 12:31.35 | jonwil | Or port one to a different kernel |
| 12:31.40 | jonwil | Or even try to understand what one is doing |
| 12:32.10 | jonwil | Its hard enough to understand when userspace bits are talking to kernel drivers (like all the stuff I had to do for the MCE reverse engineering work) |
| 12:32.27 | jon_y | char device node? |
| 12:33.02 | jonwil | anyhow, anything involving kernel hacking is not on my radar screen |
| 12:34.56 | jon_y | what other pointless porting work can be done :) |
| 12:35.08 | jon_y | SATA drivers for maemo :) |
| 12:36.46 | jonwil | Not interested in anything kernel related or driver related or hardware related |
| 12:37.10 | jonwil | I keep looking at http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages and wishing there was something left on that list that I could reverse engineer |
| 12:37.24 | jonwil | but all the good stuff is too hard :( |
| 12:38.41 | jon_y | NFC drivers for Maemo! |
| 12:38.52 | jon_y | not that the drivers will be useful |
| 12:38.55 | jonwil | stop talking about hardware or kernel stuff :P |
| 12:39.20 | jon_y | k, port JACK audio to maemo :) |
| 12:39.37 | jonwil | stop taking about useless ports as well :P |
| 12:39.39 | Pali | jonwil: alsaped? |
| 12:39.52 | jon_y | hmm, not sure if Maemo would benefit from zram |
| 12:39.53 | jonwil | looked into that, its too complex for me to tackle |
| 12:40.12 | KotCzarny | isnt zram almost free with mainline? |
| 12:40.27 | jon_y | does it work with powerkernel? |
| 12:42.52 | jon_y | I wonder how hard is it to hack the N900 firmware |
| 12:43.13 | KotCzarny | because ugly closed binary code |
| 12:45.50 | freemangordon | Pali: hmm, actually my ko seems to work fine with 3.16 |
| 12:45.52 | jon_y | hmm does Linphone work on the N900? |
| 12:46.09 | jon_y | sip with SRTP/ZRTP encrypted channels |
| 12:46.12 | freemangordon | the oopses wew because I put some msleep() calls |
| 12:46.16 | jon_y | might be too heavy for N900 |
| 12:46.17 | freemangordon | *were |
| 12:46.48 | freemangordon | Pali: BTW, I don;t think iphb from harmattan wil work with maemo's iphbd |
| 12:46.56 | Pali | really? |
| 12:47.15 | Pali | ipbh.ko from 2.6.32 kernel will not work with maemo iphbd? |
| 12:47.25 | freemangordon | I think so |
| 12:47.39 | freemangordon | that timer, why it is there? |
| 12:47.57 | freemangordon | iiuc it is iphbd that have to flush keepalives |
| 12:48.01 | freemangordon | *has |
| 12:54.38 | brolin_empey | joga: auenf: KotCzarny: IE11 on Win10 continues playing audio after Windows turns off the computerâs displays after an inactivity timeout. So yes, the unwanted behaviour about which I asked was caused by Edge, not by Windows. |
| 12:55.19 | KotCzarny | what sane person uses win10? |
| 12:56.36 | freemangordon | Pali: do you have kernel newer than 3.16 to test iphb.ko with? |
| 12:56.37 | brolin_empey | KotCzarny: I use WIA or TWAIN, not SANE. ;-) |
| 12:56.51 | Pali | I'm using 3.13 |
| 12:56.55 | freemangordon | hmm |
| 12:56.57 | Pali | LTS ubuntu 12.04 |
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| 12:57.19 | freemangordon | well, I meant some VM |
| 12:58.02 | freemangordon | as it has crashed my 4.4 so it is better to not play in native OS |
| 13:00.53 | Pali | ok |
| 13:02.19 | jon_y | do you guys play with bleeding edge kernels? |
| 13:04.37 | freemangordon | Pali: https://github.com/community-ssu/iphbd/tree/master/kmod |
| 13:09.15 | Pali | https://gitorious.org/meego-middleware/dsme/commit/735a5f058e082ff63e3cf65579def48b157b6705 |
| 13:09.21 | Pali | maybe this commit can be interesting... |
| 13:09.28 | Pali | first public version of iphb |
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| 13:10.07 | Pali | anyway, also after certman update, I cannot connect to gmail imap server due to unknown certificate with bad signature |
| 13:10.13 | Pali | jonwil: ^^^ |
| 13:10.59 | freemangordon | Pali: I used part of the code there, but it is not the same as the one in Fremantle |
| 13:11.06 | Pali | ok |
| 13:11.14 | freemangordon | that one uses epoll, maemo uses poll |
| 13:17.39 | freemangordon | Pali: kernel 4.4 http://pastebin.com/u3dcJZLA |
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| 13:34.38 | Pali | freemangordon: gdb iphb.ko |
| 13:34.43 | Pali | and look at flush_keepalives+0x143/0x220 |
| 13:37.08 | freemangordon | Pali: no symbols :( |
| 13:37.18 | freemangordon | how to build it with debug info? |
| 13:38.21 | freemangordon | hmm, found it how |
| 13:39.33 | Pali | freemangordon: KCFLAGS=-g |
| 13:39.42 | Pali | $ make -C /usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-101-generic/ M=$PWD KCFLAGS=-g |
| 13:40.45 | Pali | just recompile and run: |
| 13:40.46 | Pali | $ gdb iphb.ko |
| 13:40.46 | Pali | disassemble /m flush_keepalives+0x143/0x220 |
| 13:44.15 | freemangordon | Pali: I modified Makefile to include debug symbols, unfortunately, there is no such address (0x143) in the disassembly |
| 13:44.48 | freemangordon | will try with ida |
| 13:47.46 | freemangordon | Pali: https://github.com/community-ssu/iphbd/blob/master/kmod/iphb.c#L174 |
| 13:47.51 | freemangordon | as I expected :) |
| 13:49.05 | freemangordon | seems I can't store nf_hook_state, I guess I have to keep the data, lemme try |
| 13:58.14 | freemangordon | looks better that way :) |
| 13:59.57 | freemangordon | Pali: what do you think? https://github.com/community-ssu/iphbd/commit/5c02e268587b50a1039e7d9e1dd65543efd3769d |
| 14:00.43 | freemangordon | crashes no more my ubuntu 14.04 with kernel 4.4 |
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| 14:13.21 | xes | do we have any kind of draft / project for an emergency mode for our N900, something like a boot option to boot the N900 and start only the phone-ui instead of the whole maemo desktop... It would be interesting since if you need to place an emergency phone call and the N900 is turned off sometimes it may needs more than 5 minutes to be ready |
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| 14:25.28 | KotCzarny | xes: neat idea, could be work as a recovery os too |
| 14:25.34 | KotCzarny | *could work |
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| 14:40.31 | KotCzarny | case of dying wlans ta doo doom |
| 14:40.39 | KotCzarny | opps. wrong chan |
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| 15:01.53 | freemangordon1 | Pali: what about merging iphb-dkms with iphbd? |
| 15:02.15 | Pali | iphb-dkms is not needed in cssu/maemo kernel |
| 15:02.25 | freemangordon | is there a reason to keep ko split from the daemon? |
| 15:02.27 | Pali | so I guess it would be better to have them separated |
| 15:02.45 | freemangordon | well, I guess we can check during buildtime |
| 15:02.45 | Pali | we do not want iphb-dkms in cssu repository |
| 15:03.18 | freemangordon | and not install dkms/ko part if building on <3.x kernel |
| 15:03.22 | Pali | you cannot (easily) change list of deb packages produced by debian source package |
| 15:03.56 | Pali | list of deb packages is static and not changed by building process (debian/rules)... |
| 15:04.01 | freemangordon | well, but then iphbd should depend on iphb-dkms, so isn't that the same? |
| 15:04.24 | Pali | iphbd should depends on some virtual/meta package |
| 15:04.40 | freemangordon | hmm, right |
| 15:04.40 | Pali | which is provided by both iphb-dkms and also by stock kernel |
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| 15:04.57 | Pali | but that is hard in maemo, because stock kernel does not do that |
| 15:05.11 | Pali | I would rather do not depends on any such package... |
| 15:05.26 | freemangordon | what about kernel-feature? |
| 15:05.35 | Pali | once we will have something working on debian/devuan/... we can add recomended dependency |
| 15:05.50 | freemangordon | kernel-feature-something || iphb-dkms |
| 15:06.05 | freemangordon | ok |
| 15:06.22 | freemangordon | going to move iphb from the daemon to iphb-dkms |
| 15:07.50 | freemangordon | Pali: shell i include -g in the Makefile? |
| 15:08.09 | Pali | no |
| 15:08.11 | freemangordon | ok |
| 15:08.13 | Pali | that is big hack |
| 15:08.23 | freemangordon | ok |
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| 15:14.11 | freemangordon | Pali: shall I keep the timed flush? |
| 15:14.18 | freemangordon | from the harm kernel? |
| 15:23.40 | Pali | maybe keep it for now |
| 15:23.45 | freemangordon | ok |
| 15:23.53 | Pali | when we find out that is cause really problems, we can delete it |
| 15:23.58 | freemangordon | ok |
| 15:24.49 | freemangordon | but I'll remove(#if 0) the read, as fremantle iphbd doesn;t read on the kernel fd. |
| 15:25.14 | Pali | I think no need... |
| 15:25.36 | freemangordon | there is, see https://github.com/community-ssu/iphb-dkms/blob/master/iphb.c#L246 |
| 15:26.00 | Pali | and it is problem? |
| 15:26.09 | Pali | I think not, just it is not called... |
| 15:26.17 | freemangordon | in fremantle this is done in iphbd_poll |
| 15:27.00 | Pali | ah, right |
| 15:27.16 | Pali | it is really in iphbd_poll and harmattan kernel removed it |
| 15:27.24 | freemangordon | :nod: |
| 15:28.02 | freemangordon | I guess we can keep both |
| 15:28.36 | Pali | ok |
| 15:28.42 | freemangordon | but better #if the read code |
| 15:28.53 | Pali | read code seems ok |
| 15:28.59 | Pali | if it is not used, then nothing is called |
| 15:29.16 | freemangordon | ok, will keep it |
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| 16:09.30 | freemangordon | Pali: https://github.com/community-ssu/iphb-dkms/commit/37d8be993bf23ebcd4a72f5cd128f587181b327f |
| 16:09.58 | Pali | why UTS_RELEASE? |
| 16:10.04 | Pali | I removed that crap... |
| 16:10.09 | freemangordon | :) |
| 16:10.16 | freemangordon | well, this is in fremantle |
| 16:11.01 | freemangordon | Pali: feel free to remove it again, I wouldn;t mind |
| 16:11.11 | Pali | #if LINUX_VERSION_CODE < KERNEL_VERSION(2, 6, 29) |
| 16:11.15 | Pali | thats look wrong... |
| 16:11.46 | freemangordon | I couldn;t find at which kernel version that header was moved, thus... |
| 16:12.08 | Pali | so you break it on my kernel too :-) |
| 16:12.22 | freemangordon | wait, why? |
| 16:12.44 | Pali | beacuse THIS_MODULE is needed |
| 16:13.17 | freemangordon | aah, you mean for the hooks |
| 16:13.41 | freemangordon | yeah, sorry, copy/paste error, going to fix it |
| 16:14.47 | Pali | -const struct net_device *indev, |
| 16:14.47 | Pali | +const struct net_device *in, |
| 16:14.50 | Pali | reason? |
| 16:15.08 | Pali | it is hard to read that diff |
| 16:15.17 | Pali | couple of noop changes |
| 16:15.35 | freemangordon | for name consistency |
| 16:17.00 | Pali | #include <generated/utsrelease.h> |
| 16:17.00 | Pali | ?? |
| 16:17.09 | Pali | this looks really bad |
| 16:17.17 | freemangordon | needed for UTS_RELEASE ;) |
| 16:17.49 | freemangordon | hmm, seems owner disappears in 4.4 |
| 16:17.52 | Pali | linux/vermagic.h if you really need it |
| 16:18.26 | Pali | ideally do not mix 10 different things into one commit |
| 16:18.38 | freemangordon | Pali: well, I don;t need it, it is just that the code was like that, feel free to remove it |
| 16:18.48 | freemangordon | Pali: |
| 16:18.48 | Pali | I already removed it |
| 16:18.55 | Pali | but you reverted my remove :-) |
| 16:19.01 | freemangordon | it is not LKML :p |
| 16:19.14 | freemangordon | ok, will reintroduce it |
| 16:19.26 | Pali | well.... I can fix it |
| 16:20.23 | freemangordon | Pali: lemme first push THIS_MODULE fix |
| 16:22.39 | Pali | that is incomplete too... okfn usage, etc... |
| 16:23.37 | freemangordon | ready |
| 16:23.42 | freemangordon | which line? |
| 16:23.59 | freemangordon | okfn usage should be correct |
| 16:24.07 | freemangordon | I tested on 3.16 and 4.4 |
| 16:24.27 | Pali | I will fix it... |
| 16:24.33 | freemangordon | which one? |
| 16:24.43 | Pali | will create new branch and fix it here |
| 16:25.35 | freemangordon | Pali: please, explain what are you going to fix. also, why new branch? |
| 16:25.53 | Pali | to prevent push conflicts |
| 16:25.54 | Pali | in master |
| 16:26.00 | Pali | fix - okfn usage |
| 16:26.13 | freemangordon | I pushed everything I have |
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| 17:12.09 | Pali | freemangordon: https://github.com/community-ssu/iphb-dkms/commits/pali |
| 17:12.24 | Pali | I check that kernel versions against git kernel history |
| 17:13.01 | Pali | this should be correct |
| 17:31.55 | freemangordon | Pali: why not merge it with master? |
| 17:32.30 | Pali | because now there are conflics :D |
| 17:32.52 | Pali | I started earlier as you pushed changes |
| 17:33.07 | Pali | I can (only) force push it into master... |
| 17:34.00 | freemangordon | whatever is needed, I don;t see why we need branch "pali" :) |
| 17:34.13 | Pali | recheck if it is working |
| 17:34.22 | Pali | and I can force push it to master |
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| 19:08.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | xes: FIVE minutes? |
| 19:08.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | never seen that |
| 19:09.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | when you got device lock, you can do 911 calls instead of enetring the unlock code. This is about as early as it gets |
| 19:11.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | xes: an alternative was to send "ATD911;" to modem (via ISI - *UGH* hardly feasible) from uBoot menu |
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| 20:37.12 | freemangordon | Pali: make KERNELRELEASE=4.4.0-47-generic -C /lib/modules/4.4.0-47-generic/build M=/var/lib/dkms/iphb/1.0/build....(bad exit status: 2) |
| 20:45.00 | Pali | what is in log? |
| 20:45.44 | freemangordon | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:48.35 | freemangordon | Pali: DKMSKernelVersion: 4.2.0-38-generic |
| 20:50.12 | freemangordon | http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/include/linux/netfilter.h?v=4.2 - no net there |
| 20:50.26 | freemangordon | it appears in 4.4 |
| 20:50.48 | freemangordon | Pali: are you going to fix it or I to fix it? |
| 20:52.58 | freemangordon | hmm, something is weird here |
| 20:53.08 | xes | DocScrutinizer05: how much time do your N900 takes to go from power off to have the dialer ready to place a call? |
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| 20:54.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | like maybe 90s, I never even tried since I don't know when the dialer is "ready" |
| 20:54.02 | jonwil | hi |
| 20:54.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | might be 60 |
| 21:00.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, desktop is up after 45s, probably usable after 60 - though on this particular device all icons (cache) are broken |
| 21:02.16 | freemangordon | Pali: sorry, I gave you wrong log, this one is correct http://pastebin.com/j4Yv3Kwc |
| 21:02.26 | freemangordon | anyway, I am going to fix that |
| 21:03.24 | xes | DocScrutinizer05: my device is probably overloaded... but i can open the phone ui after 4 minutes.. then the system becomes reactive after > 5 minutes |
| 21:03.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's weird |
| 21:11.56 | freemangordon | Pali: https://github.com/community-ssu/iphb-dkms/commit/3bc377199a3df5be22d39f667f666a3d26ee3a79 |
| 21:12.14 | freemangordon | lets see if it still works |
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| 21:32.18 | freemangordon | Pali: seems to work ok, please push to master |
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| 23:18.08 | Pali | freemangordon: git push --force origin 3bc3771:master was done |
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