| 00:23.20 | ds3 | I am okay with old code. |
| 00:23.33 | ds3 | trying to get something working... don't need the latest |
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| 04:18.21 | freemangordon | parazyd: I was sure it is the watchdog :) |
| 04:20.50 | freemangordon | ds3: no, we'll get to nowhere with the old code. The problem being mostly with recent SSL changes (more and more sites disable old algos supported by maemo) |
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| 04:54.43 | KotCzarny | ~bupbat |
| 04:54.44 | infobot | well, bupbat is use the capacitive type, LiIon are breaking during 12 months, or http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/PAS414HR-VG1/587-2157-1-ND/1959153, or https://hbe-shop.de/Art-2112777-TAIYO-YUDEN-PAS414HR-VA5R-KONDENSATOR006F-33V-STAKED-COIN, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90864 |
| 04:54.52 | KotCzarny | l29ah: ^ |
| 05:00.35 | CatButts | not looking forward to |
| 05:00.37 | CatButts | haha |
| 05:03.09 | CatButts | hmm, doesn't look like a hard job |
| 05:04.48 | CatButts | I suppose I can get no transportation fees if I order from places like alibaba |
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| 06:08.00 | Oksana | Recent SSL changes... How difficult is it to upgrade openssl-or-something? Regarding both depends and rdepends? |
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| 08:37.33 | kerio | Oksana: iirc there's an openssl 0.9.8 that's still supported by redhat |
| 08:37.37 | kerio | so we could use that |
| 08:37.38 | kerio | maybe |
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| 08:49.16 | KotCzarny | another nice feature of systemd: https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E52668_01/E67200/html/section-t51_kcn_f5.html |
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| 08:57.01 | kerio | LUL |
| 08:57.31 | kerio | "This setting, which is intended for laptops, can cause software problems on server systems." |
| 08:57.37 | kerio | that's basically systemd in a nutshell |
| 09:06.39 | KotCzarny | sooo |
| 09:08.39 | KotCzarny | it means debian and rh can say buh-bye for servers? ;) |
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| 09:42.49 | Oksanaa | Cannot install qrcode plug-in for mbarcode because of missing dependencies like libqtm-12-contacts or something. Any ideas? |
| 09:57.35 | Sicelo | so i wasn't too dumb after all in connection with modrana ... http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1517008&postcount=1908 |
| 09:58.33 | Sicelo | tldr : offline map rendering + routing is sketchy on modrana n900 |
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| 10:07.07 | bencoh | Sicelo: well ... I think batch tile download is enough tbh, but ... |
| 10:08.09 | bencoh | well, if it works like marble (cache tiles on disk for later access even after quitting/relaunching app), but I suppose it does |
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| 10:21.31 | Sicelo | the issue with batch til download is the zoom levels .. i actually asked for help here about two weeks ago. i am not saying/suggesting modrana is bad .. it's actually good and i like it .. but for some use cases, it's quite difficult |
| 10:23.06 | kerio | KotCzarny: well i mean |
| 10:23.27 | kerio | i don't really know how can you look at the systemd situation and not start planning for a migration to some other unix for your servers |
| 10:23.32 | kerio | unless you're a redhat shop |
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| 10:46.14 | bencoh | Sicelo: you can always edit your map configuration file to allow downloading the last 2 zoom levels, but iirc it's an OSM directive not to batch download those |
| 10:46.30 | bencoh | and only download/cache it when client explicitely needs it |
| 10:46.42 | bencoh | (to help with server load) |
| 10:50.22 | L29Ah | ok it's on aliexpress |
| 10:51.09 | L29Ah | https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5pcs-lot-PAS414HR-VG1/32752711772.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10065_10068_10069_10084_10083_10017_10080_10082_10081_10060_10061_10062_10056_10055_10054_10059_10078_10079_10073_10070_421_420_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_1&btsid=750688f4-0e7e-4692-a4cd-eed909e26a73 |
| 10:52.31 | L29Ah | eh, no, it looks kinda inverted |
| 10:53.13 | L29Ah | https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-10PCS-PAS414HR-VG1-XH414HG-IV01E-Gold-mobile-phone-backup-battery-capacitor/32435990847.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10065_10068_10069_10084_10083_10017_10080_10082_10081_10060_10061_10062_10056_10055_10054_10059_10078_10079_10073_10070_421_420_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_1&btsid=750688f4-0e7e-4692-a4cd-eed909e26a73 |
| 10:53.15 | L29Ah | there is it |
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| 11:25.52 | Vajb | nice url :) |
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| 15:29.33 | Sicelo | would it be safe to power up a board such as RPi/BBB with a powered USB hub, and have the same hub connected to the board's host USB port? |
| 15:38.36 | Sicelo | i suppose it's fine :-/ |
| 15:53.58 | KotCzarny | look at the board rating |
| 15:54.57 | KotCzarny | and it depends on the hub capabilities, some just provide direct 5v from the ac adapter |
| 15:56.30 | ds3 | freemangordon: SSL is mostly na issue with the browser, right? |
| 15:56.39 | KotCzarny | nope |
| 15:56.43 | KotCzarny | mail too |
| 15:56.57 | KotCzarny | and other services that use security via ssl |
| 15:59.41 | KotCzarny | ie. instant messaging, irc |
| 15:59.52 | KotCzarny | quite everything network wise |
| 16:07.51 | freemangordon | ds3: ^^^ |
| 16:08.09 | freemangordon | ds3: not only openssl issue, but gnuetls as well |
| 16:08.15 | freemangordon | *gnutls |
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| 16:30.23 | ds3 | trying to think of an app that would matter |
| 16:31.43 | KotCzarny | mail |
| 16:31.50 | KotCzarny | modest |
| 16:32.29 | freemangordon | all the chats |
| 16:32.34 | freemangordon | well, most of |
| 16:33.46 | ds3 | yes but those aren't the interesting app for an emulated environment unless you want to create conflicting data sets |
| 16:34.01 | ds3 | I suppose chats could |
| 16:34.33 | ds3 | would diving into Meego address this? |
| 16:38.49 | freemangordon | I doubt |
| 16:39.08 | freemangordon | btw what do you meant by "Meego"? |
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| 17:08.54 | ds3 | that "supposed" successor to maemo |
| 17:09.07 | ds3 | didn't intel or nok update some of these? |
| 17:09.15 | freemangordon | it is even more dead than maemo afaik |
| 17:09.24 | freemangordon | afaik no |
| 17:14.52 | ds3 | sigh |
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| 20:11.22 | ds3 | just to summarize things - the recommendation is to forward port the UI related patches from Meego ? |
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