| 00:00.19 | *** join/#maemo atk (Arch-TK@fsf/member/Arch-TK) |
| 00:32.24 | *** part/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net) |
| 00:59.20 | *** join/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net) |
| 01:21.11 | *** join/#maemo eMHa__ (~mh@p54B0FAED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:09.14 | *** join/#maemo lobito (~lobito@unaffiliated/lobito) |
| 02:19.54 | *** join/#maemo Vajb (~Vajb@85-76-98-35-nat.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 02:29.36 | ShadowJK | Firefox is the only browser these days that don't use process/thread per tab, though firefox is going to change that soon |
| 02:32.58 | *** join/#maemo felangga (~communi@112.215.172.70) |
| 02:50.46 | *** join/#maemo cyphase (~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase) |
| 03:11.20 | *** join/#maemo houjiang (~liuhoujia@110.53.16.24) |
| 03:31.18 | *** join/#maemo vahe (~vahe@130.193.124.135) |
| 04:01.58 | *** join/#maemo DocScrutinizer05 (~saturn@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 04:42.17 | KotCzarny | ShadowJK: in allwinner socs, openrisc core is independent one that presumably was meant to control cpu/temp/sleep&wake functions etc |
| 04:42.33 | KotCzarny | its a nice idea, but requires someone to actually implement it |
| 04:43.49 | KotCzarny | powering down every clock and just leaving essentials needed to wakeup is very good idea for portable/mobile uses |
| 05:04.37 | *** join/#maemo radekp (~radek@82.113.39.213) |
| 05:40.11 | *** join/#maemo Oksana (~chatzilla@Maemo/community/ex-council/Wikiwide) |
| 05:47.35 | *** join/#maemo fishbulb (~fishbulb@unaffiliated/fishbulb) |
| 05:47.43 | *** join/#maemo Maxdaman1us (~Maxdamant@unaffiliated/maxdamantus) |
| 05:47.47 | *** join/#maemo cyphase (~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase) |
| 05:47.52 | fishbulb | how can I try to find out why I'm recievng mms but can't send them? |
| 05:48.51 | fishbulb | it's fmms 1.3.5 |
| 05:49.39 | fishbulb | and the settings are right, I can send one to myself |
| 05:55.42 | *** join/#maemo Oksana (~chatzilla@Maemo/community/ex-council/Wikiwide) |
| 06:04.21 | *** join/#maemo cyphase (~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase) |
| 06:20.10 | *** join/#maemo cyphase (~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase) |
| 06:36.02 | *** join/#maemo cyphase (~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase) |
| 06:37.46 | *** join/#maemo xorly (~xorly@ip-89-176-10-118.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 06:39.46 | Oksana | One question: Nokia's default maps on Maemo 5 do not seem to know any streets, try to download data but get none. Where does it seek the data, and where is said data available if at all? Nokia's map-providing server-service for N900 is either down or moved to Microsoft, maybe? |
| 06:49.57 | KotCzarny | online |
| 06:50.23 | KotCzarny | i mean afair, it didnt have any search functions and relied on online feedback |
| 06:58.28 | Vajb | yes. You can't make offline searches in nokia maps |
| 07:00.59 | *** join/#maemo cyphase (~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase) |
| 07:02.12 | *** join/#maemo xorly (~xorly@ip-89-176-10-118.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 07:24.02 | *** join/#maemo florian_kc (~fuchs@Maemo/community/contributor/florian) |
| 07:25.14 | *** join/#maemo cyphase (~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase) |
| 07:30.59 | *** join/#maemo pagurus (~user@pD950E757.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:31.38 | *** join/#maemo LauRoman (~LauRoman@5-14-44-244.residential.rdsnet.ro) |
| 07:32.55 | *** join/#maemo geaaru (~geaaru@host170-152-static.43-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 07:40.03 | *** join/#maemo fishbulb (~fishbulb@unaffiliated/fishbulb) |
| 07:40.48 | *** join/#maemo cyphase (~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase) |
| 07:49.02 | *** join/#maemo DocScrutinizer51 (~lagrange@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 07:49.32 | *** join/#maemo sixwheeledbeast (~zem@2a01:4f8:c17:101::2) |
| 07:56.23 | *** join/#maemo jskarvad (~jskarvad@ip4-83-240-109-43.cust.nbox.cz) |
| 07:56.23 | *** join/#maemo jskarvad (~jskarvad@redhat/jskarvad) |
| 07:57.52 | *** join/#maemo cyphase (~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase) |
| 08:04.28 | *** join/#maemo phlixi_ (~phlixi@ppp-88-217-39-44.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 08:14.21 | *** join/#maemo Sigyn (sigyn@freenode/utility-bot/sigyn) |
| 08:14.22 | *** join/#maemo frals (~frals@c83-251-147-241.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 08:14.22 | *** join/#maemo frals (~frals@Maemo/community/contributor/frals) |
| 08:15.28 | fishbulb | how do I try to diagnose why my phone isn't sending mms |
| 08:15.41 | fishbulb | I can send one to myself, but nobody else |
| 08:15.54 | fishbulb | the settings are right. the version is 1.3.5 |
| 08:18.11 | *** join/#maemo cyphase (~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase) |
| 08:33.38 | *** join/#maemo freemangordon_1 (~ivo@213.222.56.174) |
| 08:40.19 | *** join/#maemo xorly (~xorly@193.85.203.185) |
| 08:48.32 | *** join/#maemo freemangordon_ (~ivo@213.222.56.174) |
| 08:49.47 | *** join/#maemo N-Mi (~nicolas@calvix/staff/N-Mi) |
| 09:42.24 | *** join/#maemo eMHa__ (~mh@185.36.21.2) |
| 09:49.05 | *** join/#maemo xorly (~xorly@193.85.203.185) |
| 09:57.18 | *** join/#maemo esaym153 (~esaym153@75-1-182-8.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 10:02.58 | Al3x_10m | >mms |
| 10:03.01 | Al3x_10m | >2016 |
| 10:03.06 | Al3x_10m | o____O |
| 10:03.45 | KotCzarny | alex: not everyone is on some shitbook to see shared pics, sometimes you just want to send photo to family etc |
| 10:04.01 | kerio | my family wouldn't know what the fuck to do with a mms |
| 10:04.12 | Al3x_10m | mms is dead |
| 10:06.00 | kerio | "yes let's do email in a way that makes customers pay us top money and has severe compatibility issues" |
| 10:07.06 | KotCzarny | kerio, most phones come configured with mms readily, so one wouldnt have to do anything other than receiving message, and thats the whole point |
| 10:08.43 | luke-jr | email is for text, not photos |
| 10:09.17 | Al3x_10m | mms should die in a fire :P |
| 10:09.22 | Al3x_10m | mms and all it's limits |
| 10:09.34 | Al3x_10m | internet is cheaper anyways |
| 10:10.19 | KotCzarny | again, not everyone is a geek, and unless there is a standard to send/receive pics in a quick and easy way, its better (with all its quirks and limitations) |
| 10:10.37 | Al3x_10m | :/ |
| 10:12.07 | KotCzarny | and mind you, if you wanted new way to share images peer2peer it cant get any easier (because its implemented in almost any phone since years) |
| 10:13.11 | KotCzarny | to the point that my home network sends me http links so i dont have to use gsm bandwidth (assuming wifi is available) |
| 10:13.50 | Al3x_10m | sure..my grandma knows what's a link xD |
| 10:14.31 | *** join/#maemo freemangordon_ (~ivo@213.222.56.174) |
| 10:16.07 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 10:19.42 | bencoh | /59/59 |
| 10:19.44 | bencoh | woops |
| 10:38.14 | *** join/#maemo eMHa (~mh@185.36.21.1) |
| 10:53.11 | fishbulb | yeah |
| 10:53.12 | fishbulb | like |
| 10:53.13 | fishbulb | girls |
| 10:53.15 | fishbulb | family |
| 10:53.25 | fishbulb | every single person who has a phone, and isn't at a computer all day |
| 10:53.56 | fishbulb | sending mms is PRETTY common |
| 10:54.18 | *** join/#maemo zGrr (~Grr@83.137.1.216) |
| 11:04.27 | *** join/#maemo freemangordon_ (~ivo@213.222.56.174) |
| 11:12.05 | *** join/#maemo jskarvad (~jskarvad@ip4-83-240-109-43.cust.nbox.cz) |
| 11:12.05 | *** join/#maemo jskarvad (~jskarvad@redhat/jskarvad) |
| 11:15.18 | zGrr | moin |
| 11:24.50 | sicelo | Oksana: just do a search .. afaik the map data is still available .. some sites link to the actual zip files. |
| 11:25.33 | sicelo | or, if you have access to windows computer, use Ovi suite ... always works |
| 11:31.52 | KotCzarny | sicelo, does it contain street addresses ? |
| 11:31.58 | sicelo | KotCzarny: there is a "standard" for transfer of picture now, :p |
| 11:31.59 | KotCzarny | or allows searching? |
| 11:32.01 | sicelo | whatsapp |
| 11:32.10 | KotCzarny | WA isnt popular here |
| 11:32.14 | KotCzarny | never heard about it |
| 11:32.40 | KotCzarny | also, standard which isnt open is.. you know :P |
| 11:32.49 | KotCzarny | not a standard ;) |
| 11:33.53 | sicelo | street addresses .. yes .. the zoom detail is good enough. as Vajb said, we never had offline search. only have offline routing |
| 11:34.20 | KotCzarny | how do you know routing if you dont know where the destination is? |
| 11:34.27 | bencoh | sicelo: a non-standard :) |
| 11:34.34 | sicelo | :P |
| 11:35.03 | sicelo | taht is ... routes between two points you select |
| 11:35.52 | bencoh | which means they have a routing info database but no POI / names |
| 11:37.01 | sicelo | we have POI too |
| 11:37.40 | sicelo | some who poked in it found that we were going to have search as well .. but probably time constraints caught us |
| 11:37.52 | bencoh | hm? |
| 11:37.57 | bencoh | too slow? |
| 11:38.13 | bencoh | ah, you mean it never was implemented |
| 11:39.00 | sicelo | the latter, yes. even voice guidance .. but some bits were actually there |
| 11:39.46 | bencoh | I dont really understand why would anyone want to stick with this thin |
| 11:40.02 | bencoh | thing*. outdated data, unfinished application, closed-source |
| 11:40.22 | sicelo | btw, i use nokia Maps exclusively .. in my part of the world N900 maps are more accurate than googlems, even today |
| 11:40.31 | bencoh | we already have modrana/marble ... |
| 11:41.36 | sicelo | has difficult learning curve :( |
| 11:42.58 | sicelo | there's OM Voice server for Nomkia Maps ... implements the voice navigation, and some crude search mechanism .. |
| 11:43.25 | sicelo | not search in the true sense, but more like favorites |
| 11:44.34 | bencoh | sicelo: seriously? :/ |
| 11:44.56 | sicelo | huh? |
| 11:45.07 | bencoh | learning curve |
| 11:46.06 | sicelo | yes. it is difficult for someone who only uses maps once in a while and who absolutely needs offline map data |
| 11:46.45 | sicelo | therems something about zoom levels, having to browse the areas beforehand, etc. |
| 11:47.22 | bencoh | I dont really see how it is difficult, but ... fine |
| 11:47.48 | KotCzarny | bencoh, write a wiki guide? and use sicelo as a 'regular user/tester' ? ;) |
| 11:47.55 | sicelo | imm not saying it's bad ... just doesn't seem to be that easy for me ... anyway, the bigger issue is - accuracy. modrana/marble aren't solving that, and it is not their fault |
| 11:49.46 | sicelo | OSM obviously doesn't hav a lot of data because they depend on community, google seems only interested in the mbig' cities |
| 11:49.48 | bencoh | sicelo: openstreetmap data might use an update as well I suppose |
| 11:50.03 | sicelo | yes, |
| 11:51.50 | sicelo | NM has its place. :f) |
| 11:52.12 | sicelo | do we still have a way on N900 to contirbute to OSM? |
| 11:53.09 | sicelo | (i'll test modrana again sometime soon) |
| 11:54.20 | bencoh | dunno if it still works |
| 11:54.32 | sicelo | (my typing is so bad today .. Fn keys tricky on xterm/N900) |
| 11:54.55 | sicelo | bencoh: modrana or osm client? |
| 11:55.00 | *** join/#maemo ahycka (ahycka@queen.gmr.ssr.upm.es) |
| 11:55.27 | sicelo | i think modrana should work .. seems still maintained |
| 11:55.41 | bencoh | sicelo: osm client |
| 11:55.55 | bencoh | modrana and marble both work fine, and yeah, modrana is still maintained |
| 11:57.16 | sicelo | okay |
| 11:57.35 | *** join/#maemo ahycka|off (~ahycka@queen.gmr.ssr.upm.es) |
| 11:58.41 | *** join/#maemo script (~script@mail.scriptkiller.de) |
| 12:08.12 | *** join/#maemo ceene (~ceene@collins.gmr.ssr.upm.es) |
| 12:10.04 | *** join/#maemo azkay (~azkay@brisweeds.com) |
| 12:47.44 | *** join/#maemo at1as (~at1as@kurios.r4780y.com) |
| 13:02.57 | *** join/#maemo norayr (~noch@host-54.196.162.46.ucom.am) |
| 13:14.27 | *** join/#maemo lobito (~lobito@unaffiliated/lobito) |
| 13:37.05 | *** join/#maemo martinux (~martinus@host81-158-193-61.range81-158.btcentralplus.com) |
| 13:37.13 | martinux | Hello all. |
| 13:40.02 | martinux | I was wondering if it was possible to display non-standard emoticons in n900 SMS client? I've applied the patch that stops them from dissappearing into the ether but I'm just seeing the little rectangles. |
| 13:49.29 | *** part/#maemo peetah (~peetah@cha92-9-82-236-202-86.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 14:13.15 | *** join/#maemo xorly (~xorly@193.85.203.185) |
| 14:17.09 | bencoh | martinux: are you talking about the emoji fix? |
| 14:17.41 | bencoh | iirc there is a font as well (not too sure about it though, haven't played with that for a while) |
| 14:18.07 | martinux | I believe so. The fix works - in that messages no longer dissappear but I'm not seeing the emoji despite installing the deb. |
| 14:21.15 | bencoh | tbh I'm not absolutely certain I see those, but I somehow think I do (I kinda remember seeing a strange one that I wasn't used to) |
| 14:25.10 | bencoh | martinux: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1502603&postcount=35 |
| 14:25.22 | martinux | Thanks, I'll have a read. :) |
| 14:33.20 | bencoh | hm, http://thp.io/2014/emojifix/ disappeared |
| 14:33.23 | bencoh | I wonder why .... |
| 15:03.10 | martinux | Great success! Found a working link to the emoticons. |
| 15:03.43 | martinux | Also, greater success! They are now showing up in the SMS messages I've recieved. |
| 15:03.52 | martinux | Many thanks, bencoh. |
| 15:04.12 | bencoh | yw |
| 15:10.03 | *** join/#maemo ahycka (~ahycka@queen.gmr.ssr.upm.es) |
| 15:11.15 | *** join/#maemo ceene (~ceene@collins.gmr.ssr.upm.es) |
| 15:34.37 | *** join/#maemo Pali (~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali) |
| 15:40.54 | *** join/#maemo jskarvad (~jskarvad@cst-prg-32-4.cust.vodafone.cz) |
| 15:40.54 | *** join/#maemo jskarvad (~jskarvad@redhat/jskarvad) |
| 15:50.47 | *** join/#maemo xes (~xes@unaffiliated/xes) |
| 15:59.03 | *** join/#maemo eMHa (~mh@p54B0FAED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:09.51 | *** join/#maemo florian (~fuchs@Maemo/community/contributor/florian) |
| 16:23.16 | sixwheeledbeast | thp has updated his website by the looks of it, I imagine there's a github link somewhere |
| 16:23.30 | KotCzarny | thp? |
| 16:28.33 | sixwheeledbeast | thomas perl |
| 16:30.43 | bencoh | sixwheeledbeast: github repository is still around yeah |
| 16:32.18 | sixwheeledbeast | https://github.com/harmattan/emojifix |
| 17:05.41 | *** join/#maemo jskarvad (~jskarvad@ip4-83-240-109-43.cust.nbox.cz) |
| 17:05.41 | *** join/#maemo jskarvad (~jskarvad@redhat/jskarvad) |
| 17:08.26 | *** join/#maemo stejae (~betelgeus@85.183.206.154) |
| 17:09.12 | *** join/#maemo stejae (~betelgeus@unaffiliated/stejae) |
| 17:12.34 | *** join/#maemo RedW (~redw@89-76-164-87.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 17:25.17 | *** join/#maemo kerio (kerio@bad.memes.vs.dank.ninja) |
| 17:53.59 | vectis3 | Not maemo related, but can anyone tell me if a wifi router (not modem/router) designed for cable/fibre, will work with adsl? |
| 18:13.15 | KotCzarny | vectis3: any router will work if your modem has ethernet/wifi |
| 18:13.48 | KotCzarny | unless specifically locked (but those are rare) |
| 18:14.16 | KotCzarny | i assume you already have modem provided and just want to add more device in internal network |
| 18:18.55 | vectis3 | I have an adsl modem with a seperate switch. I have bought a Linksys e900 that was simply advertised as a 'wifi router' but the packaging says its for cable/fibre modems. I can't get it to work with my modem :( |
| 18:19.17 | KotCzarny | i think you will have to configure it properly |
| 18:19.41 | KotCzarny | most likely it tries to route everything through wan instead of showing your modem as a route |
| 18:20.04 | KotCzarny | but its up to you to configure your network properly |
| 18:21.41 | vectis3 | hmm, just to add to the problem, the first thing I did was to install dd-wrt firmware. |
| 18:22.09 | KotCzarny | and you connect it to your modem via ethernet cable? |
| 18:22.18 | vectis3 | yes |
| 18:22.45 | KotCzarny | then: 1/ disable dhcp on your router, 2/ dont connect anything to wan port on router (all goes into switch/wifi) |
| 18:23.12 | KotCzarny | OR: |
| 18:23.40 | KotCzarny | leave defaults and: modem -- route(wan) -- your network devices |
| 18:24.14 | KotCzarny | s/route/router/ |
| 18:25.06 | vectis3 | ok, I'll try some more. Thanks for advice. |
| 18:25.25 | KotCzarny | you just have to plan it out |
| 18:25.37 | KotCzarny | and decide what config you want |
| 19:08.28 | *** join/#maemo krnlyng (~liar@178.114.121.6.wireless.dyn.drei.com) |
| 19:16.36 | *** join/#maemo pagurus (~user@pD950E757.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:32.58 | *** join/#maemo sunshavi (~user@181.64.192.238) |
| 19:34.00 | *** join/#maemo HRH_H_Crab (~crab@kowloontong.dim-sum.org) |
| 20:00.23 | *** join/#maemo xorly (~xorly@ip-89-176-10-118.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 20:41.34 | xes | vectis3: maybe you could try a Tplink W8970 v1 or Bt Home Hub 5a + LEDE |
| 20:47.48 | _maniac_ | just curious, is LEDE better enough to try it? |
| 20:59.09 | *** join/#maemo cure` (~cure@rzavelli.demon.nl) |
| 21:07.03 | *** join/#maemo shamus (~shmaus@ip-206-192-195-210.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) |
| 21:51.17 | *** join/#maemo merlin_1991 (~merlin@merlin1991.at) |
| 21:51.17 | *** join/#maemo atk (Arch-TK@fsf/member/Arch-TK) |
| 21:51.21 | *** join/#maemo kerio (kerio@bad.memes.vs.dank.ninja) |
| 21:51.22 | *** join/#maemo chfoo (~chfooZnc@nullhound.fart.website) |
| 21:51.25 | *** join/#maemo eMHa (~mh@p54B0FAED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:51.25 | *** join/#maemo _maniac_ (~~~@unaffiliated/maniac/x-0943658) |
| 21:51.30 | *** join/#maemo Mekkis (~Mekkis@nl.ti4200.info) |
| 21:51.31 | *** join/#maemo shamus (~shmaus@ip-206-192-195-210.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) |
| 21:51.45 | *** join/#maemo arossdotme-planb (~zxy@host-89-240-16-153.as13285.net) |
| 21:51.45 | *** join/#maemo Gizmokid2005 (~Gizmokid2@dedi2.gizmokid2005.com) |
| 21:51.47 | *** join/#maemo dos1 (~dos1@unaffiliated/dos1) |
| 21:56.17 | *** join/#maemo fuz_ (nobody@vau75-10-88-164-23-88.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 22:04.20 | *** join/#maemo sixwheeledbeast (~zem@2a01:4f8:c17:101::2) |
| 22:16.16 | *** join/#maemo cpt_nemo (cpt_nemo@rfc1459.de) |
| 22:20.26 | *** join/#maemo cyphase (~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase) |
| 22:23.14 | *** join/#maemo stejae (~betelgeus@85.183.206.154) |
| 22:25.49 | *** join/#maemo stejae (~betelgeus@unaffiliated/stejae) |
| 22:25.55 | vectis3 | ok, it's now working. Now to figure out openvpn settings. |
| 22:41.44 | xes | _maniac_: better? it works great . |
| 22:51.48 | *** join/#maemo kerio (kerio@bad.memes.vs.dank.ninja) |
| 22:56.25 | _maniac_ | yeah, but openwrt works well enough for me. |
| 22:58.19 | _maniac_ | ok, not maybe well enough - I had to build some packages for my router by my own |
| 23:12.19 | *** join/#maemo Antiguan (~arlan@pool-108-51-241-61.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:44.11 | *** join/#maemo strohi (~smoofi@unaffiliated/strohi) |
| 23:52.07 | *** join/#maemo strohalm (~smoofi@212.37.175.238) |
| 23:52.07 | *** join/#maemo strohalm (~smoofi@unaffiliated/strohi) |
| 23:56.39 | *** join/#maemo sparetire (~sparetire@unaffiliated/sparetire) |