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15:39.34KotCzarnyso, i got another n900 (im addicted or what). what does nonpulsing orange mean after connecting charger?
15:39.44KotCzarny(i didnt try to turn it on yet)
15:40.06KotCzarnyis it flatbat case or something else?
15:40.44KotCzarny(right now i'll try to charge it for 30 minutes and see what will happen)
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15:44.00bencohKotCzarny: I'd say yes
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15:44.20bencohand/or no kernel/rootfs to boot from after a few mins
15:44.56KotCzarnystill steady orange, so i guess rootfs/kernel b0rken. but battery is charging, right?
15:45.54sunshaviwhy You don't swap batteries. With another working n900 :)
15:46.52KotCzarnywill do, just wanted to make sure what steady orange means
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15:47.55keriosteady orange means that bq24150 is not getting any instructions on what to do
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15:47.59keriofor one reason or another
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15:48.16kerioso after 30(?) seconds it'll default to a slow charging mode
15:48.20kerioup to a point
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15:50.29KotCzarnyoh. something happened
15:50.46KotCzarnyturned on for a moment, showed 'nokia' logo, screen went crazy and turned off
15:51.32bencohwelcome to flat battery boot loop
15:51.42bencoh(with broken rootfs bonus)
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15:51.49KotCzarnyyup, apparently
15:51.50bencoh~bootloop
15:52.10infobotit has been said that bootloop is when your device has broken rootfilesystem, so during reboot it fails on some service startup or kernel module load and thus reboots. This *drains* battery! And you can't reflash to stop bootloop when battery is drained. Recharge your battery by other means before reflashing. E.g. using ~rescueOS. Or external charger or BL-5J compatible other device.
15:52.10bencoh~flatloop
15:52.10bencoherr
15:52.11bencohwhatever the spelling is, I kinda remember doc talking about that
15:52.14bencohoooh
15:52.17KotCzarnyrescueos should boot still
15:52.21KotCzarnylets see
15:52.44bencohKotCzarny: not sure
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15:53.05bencohbooting from usb with an empty battery has always been touchy
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15:55.12KotCzarny~flasher
15:55.12infobotextra, extra, read all about it, flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz.   HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/
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16:06.02KotCzarny~flashing
16:06.03infobotit has been said that maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing
16:08.37KotCzarnyok, rescueos booted with diff. battery
16:08.46KotCzarnyi guess i'll just flash it
16:10.11KotCzarnyFound device RX-51, hardware revision 2204
16:10.11KotCzarnyNOLO version 1.4.14
16:10.11KotCzarnyVersion of 'sw-release': RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_MR0
16:10.16KotCzarnyso far so good
16:10.55KotCzarnywhy is it erasing cmt twice? hum
16:11.51KotCzarnyErasing CMT:  98%CMT flashing failed
16:11.51KotCzarnysorry, flashing RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin (NOLO, rootfs, modem-fw) failed with errorcode 0
16:11.53KotCzarnyo.o
16:12.12KotCzarnydoes it mean modem is shot?
16:12.24bencohnot necessarily iirc
16:12.51KotCzarnyi think last time it flashed on 98% cmt, it was with broken modem board
16:12.54bencohit probably wont work if it failed at 98% though
16:13.03Palitry again
16:13.10Palior try to use 0xFFFF
16:13.20bencohhuhu, Pali reads in my mind :)
16:13.41bencoh(hey there btw, long time no "see")
16:13.44KotCzarnyi think its in bootloop now
16:13.52KotCzarnydoesnt even show nokia logo
16:14.08Pali1. make sure you have fully charget battery
16:14.16Pali(if not use external charger, etc)
16:14.27Pali2. do full reflash again
16:14.31KotCzarnydoes it have to be fully charged?
16:14.48Palishould be
16:15.15Palior at least half, but working battery, not some old
16:15.47KotCzarnydont remember how much juice my testing spare had, will try flashing again, then will charge it if it fails
16:15.50Paliso voltage does not decrease under some value
16:16.13KotCzarnypity device doesnt charge during flashing
16:16.14Palimodem cannot operate if voltage is low
16:16.14bencohKotCzarny: I'd just leave it alone for a few hours :)
16:16.49Paliand so it can defunct when trying to flash modem part
16:17.13KotCzarnynah, i'll use my primary phone batt if it fails again, its almost full today
16:17.39Palibtw, modem is own "system" and their bootloader refuse to downgrade modem firmware
16:18.08KotCzarnypali, hw revision is 2204, could it be the reason?
16:18.22Paliso I can imagine that lossing or memory or damaging some data in modem memory can lead that modem refuse to flash because of that "downgrade" restriction
16:18.28Palihw revision should not be reason
16:19.00Palijust use correct firmware for it (both 0xFFFF and flasher-3.5 choose correct from FIASCO binary)
16:19.11KotCzarnyim using doc's script
16:19.26Palishould be OK
16:19.38Palido not experiment and use fully charget battery
16:19.44Pali*charged
16:19.56KotCzarnyyeah, im just doing that
16:21.29Palibtw, flashing cmt images is implemented in NOLO :-( so 0xFFFF is just wraper around NOLO
16:21.38Palithere is no direct communication with modem
16:21.48KotCzarnysame error
16:21.49KotCzarny:/
16:21.57Palican you post output?
16:22.16KotCzarnyhttp://pastebin.com/raw/xWG1Jw0N
16:23.36Palithats bad
16:23.52KotCzarnycan i flash without modem part?
16:24.15Palican you try to preload libusb-sniff-32.so (from 0xFFFF) for flasher-3.5?
16:24.28Paliand flash only cmt parts?
16:24.45Palithat will print looong output (dump usb packets)
16:25.03KotCzarnyshall i redirect output or its not that much?
16:25.08KotCzarny~0xFFFF
16:25.08infobotsomebody said 0xffff was https://github.com/pali/0xFFFF, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87996
16:25.14Paliand there maybe could be some text error message from NOLO
16:25.31Paliredirect to file
16:25.35Paliboth stdout and stderr
16:25.48Paliit print every one usb packet
16:26.10Paligo to src/
16:26.14Pali$ make libusb-sniff-32.so
16:27.21KotCzarnyhttp://pastebin.com/raw/4mN0VEgD
16:28.15Palihm... you have gcc5
16:28.25Paliprobably they broke something... argh!
16:28.28KotCzarnyi can downgrade, no problem if its the only thing
16:28.37PaliI used only gcc4 and it worked fine
16:28.56Palimaybe sure that you have gcc multilib
16:29.09KotCzarnyhow do i check?
16:29.13Paliresp. you have 32bit libs for -m32
16:29.18KotCzarny32bit os
16:29.29Palithen you have it :-)
16:38.20KotCzarnywhat i love about slack is that i can just install old gcc packages without dependency hell
16:38.35KotCzarnyk, compiled now
16:40.30KotCzarnywhat was the flashing cmdline?
16:41.24Paliuse flasher-3.5
16:41.35Palijust preload that built library
16:41.38KotCzarnyyes, but with which args
16:42.28Pali--flash-only=cmt
16:42.36Palilooks like this will do that
16:42.55KotCzarnyother args? (if you know out of the head)
16:42.57Paliat least --help say that
16:43.05Palinormal args
16:43.11KotCzarnyits combined or vanilla image?
16:43.11Pali-F for fiasco image
16:43.16Palicombined image
16:43.38Paliand  -f (which will flash)
16:43.49KotCzarnyLD_PRELOAD=./libusb-sniff-32.so ./maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2/flasher-3.5 --flash-only=cmt -f -F RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin
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16:43.55KotCzarnyanything else?
16:44.07PaliI think thats all, do not remember
16:44.19Paliplus redirect output (stdout + stderr) to file
16:44.57Paliand watch what is in file
16:45.11KotCzarnylots of output
16:45.17KotCzarnylets wait
16:45.52KotCzarny44M log already
16:45.53KotCzarnyhe he
16:46.06PaliI wrote that :-)
16:47.29KotCzarnybtw. why does it erase cmt twice?
16:47.37Palido not know
16:47.52PaliIIRC operations are done by NOLO itself
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16:48.22Palivia usb you just send headr + image and then tell command "flash"
16:48.34Paliand after that you can ask for flash status
16:48.46Paliand NOLO tell you what it is doing now with modem
16:48.51KotCzarnyi assume you are interested in ~2 last pages of output?
16:48.56KotCzarnyor everything?
16:49.11Paliit could be in end of output
16:49.21KotCzarnyhttp://pastebin.com/raw/xeCBwWz1
16:49.25Palibut do not know if 2 pages will be enough
16:50.21Palihm... nothing :-(
16:50.27Palijust "error"
16:50.44KotCzarnyyup, what can i do now?
16:50.46Palifucking NOLO, it does not forward error messgae
16:51.31Palino idea :-(
16:51.59Palilooks like internal memory of modem is broken
16:52.11Palias erasing is faling (for unknown reason)
16:52.27KotCzarnymight be broken modem
16:52.43KotCzarnyi have the same failure at 98% in one other board
16:53.00KotCzarnybut at least it was working (- modem functions)
16:53.08PaliDocScrutinizer05: ^^^^ any idea?
16:53.21Paliis there any way to "hard" reset/clear N900 modem?
16:53.24KotCzarnythis one probably needs some flashing, how do i flash user space only?
16:53.28DocScrutinizer05sorry in a meeting, give me the telegram pls
16:53.28KotCzarnyie. emmc
16:53.35DocScrutinizer05hmm
16:53.51PaliKotCzarny: flash only rootfs
16:53.57DocScrutinizer05proven theoretical or practical?
16:54.10DocScrutinizer05or even "reset to factory"?
16:54.30PaliNOLO for unknown reason cannot erase modem when flashing
16:54.40DocScrutinizer05ugh
16:54.58KotCzarnypali: rootfs is in combined?
16:55.10DocScrutinizer05then you're out of luck to a degree where all you could try is check if modem answers via pnatd
16:55.25DocScrutinizer05most likely it's a hw defect
16:55.45DocScrutinizer05modem implements same ARM coldflashing like OMAP3
16:55.52Paliand is too shy to tell us why
16:56.05DocScrutinizer05just it's NOLO doing that for the modem, or even maemo userland
16:56.47Paliis there some way to do that coldflash?
16:56.59PaliKotCzarny: yes rootfs is in combined
16:57.09DocScrutinizer05I *think* each modem firmware update is coldflashing
16:57.20KotCzarnyrootfs isnt cutting it (not even nokia/5dots)
16:57.33PaliKotCzarny: and flash also kernel
16:58.15Palimaemo can update modem FW too
16:58.17DocScrutinizer05anyway I think modem flashing is even done by userland, so obviously to flash modem you need a working maemo userland first
16:58.32Palibut for that is needed DEB package
16:58.36DocScrutinizer05not all sure but would be plausible
16:58.39Palifrom nokia repository :-(
16:58.52Paliplus that DEB package remove modem image after flashing
16:59.02Paliso even you have installed it, you do not have image anymore
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17:06.42KotCzarnyhmm
17:07.06KotCzarnyhow do i reset user data (emmc) ?
17:07.14KotCzarnyits in bootloop still
17:07.18KotCzarny~bootloop
17:07.21infobotextra, extra, read all about it, bootloop is when your device has broken rootfilesystem, so during reboot it fails on some service startup or kernel module load and thus reboots. This *drains* battery! And you can't reflash to stop bootloop when battery is drained. Recharge your battery by other means before reflashing. E.g. using ~rescueOS. Or external charger or BL-5J compatible other device.
17:10.10KotCzarnyalso weird thing is, at first i was getting output on the screen (during boot or in rescueos)
17:10.37KotCzarnynow i dont. what could be the reason? is there some display firmware somewhere that got broken during flash?
17:11.26Paliafter flashing emmc you need to flash rootfs
17:12.05KotCzarnystupid question, how do i flash emmc?
17:12.15Palivia flasher-3.5
17:12.26KotCzarnybut which image/params
17:12.26Palipass fiasco emmc image
17:12.40KotCzarnyvanilla, yes?
17:12.43Palifiasco emmc binary contains only mmc image
17:12.46Paliyes
17:12.49KotCzarnyk
17:24.04KotCzarnyafair, missing display (bad cable/screen) could also be the bootloop reason
17:35.16Palido you see nokia logo?
17:36.11KotCzarnynope
17:37.05Paliand can you identify device via flasher-3.5?
17:37.13KotCzarnydisplay/cable/chip might be the reason
17:38.01KotCzarnyyes, i can flash it/boot rescueos. just nothing on screen (and as i said, it was working earlier)
17:38.38Palihm... maybe problem with display
17:38.47KotCzarnywow, 9usd for display ribbon
17:38.56Paliin flash mode you should see NOKIA log
17:39.05KotCzarnyanyone got a cheap source for them?
17:39.47KotCzarnyhttp://www.ebay.com/p/Fake-Camera-Flex-Cable-Ribbon-for-Nokia-N900-a-355/1331819378
17:39.47KotCzarnywtf?
17:54.02DocScrutinizer05~bootlog
17:54.04DocScrutinizer05hmm
17:55.24DocScrutinizer05http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/PC_syslog_of_USB_enum
17:55.41DocScrutinizer05~listvalues PC_syslog_of_USB_enum
17:56.19DocScrutinizer05~#maemo PC_bootlog is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/PC_syslog_of_USB_enum
17:56.19infobotokay, DocScrutinizer05
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