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09:33.31APic~flasher
09:33.31infobot[flasher] at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz.   HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/
09:37.11KotCzarnyyou might want ~flashing
09:38.56APiccannot execute flasher-3.5
09:39.03APicProbably because i have a 64Bit-Environment
09:39.08APicAnd the Binary is 32 Bit
09:39.08KotCzarnyyeah
09:39.13APic~flashing
09:39.13infobotmethinks maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing
09:39.37APicDoes the „private Workdir“ get around this Issue?
09:39.41APic*leech*
09:40.03KotCzarnydont remember, probabbly not
09:40.19KotCzarnyyou have to instal lib32-compat yourself
09:40.20APicThen i need a 32Bit-Chroot
09:40.24APicAh, or that
09:40.30KotCzarnynope, just compat libs
09:40.30APicThen i will get /lib32 and Stuff, right?
09:40.35APic(Debian 8.5)
09:40.37KotCzarnydepends on distro
09:40.39APicOk
09:42.14luke-jr~0xffff
09:42.15infobotwell, 0xffff is https://github.com/pali/0xFFFF, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87996
09:42.19luke-jrAPic: ^
09:43.25APicAh
09:43.33APicSo i can roll my own 64Bit-Flasher?
09:43.34APicGreat
09:43.52DocScrutinizer05~tell APic about lazyflashing
09:45.13ceenehttps://cascardo.eti.br/blog/GNU_libc_and_Linux/
09:45.21DocScrutinizer05would appreciate when APic tests it
09:45.31APicOk
09:45.35APicIs that already 64Bit, too?
09:46.03DocScrutinizer05try it
09:46.59KotCzarnyceene, you can always install some old distro
09:47.13ceeneKotCzarny: yeah, i know
09:47.22ceenejust thought it was an interesting read, although well known around here
09:47.55ceeneeasy debian project provides some patches to be able to run a more modern distro on power kernel
09:52.58APicDocScrutinizer05: http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?1119836
09:53.12APicDoes Debian 8.5 have a Package for libusb-32Bit?
09:53.33APicOr maybe i can just aptitude install libusb:32 or something?
09:54.16DocScrutinizer05APic: shit
09:54.26APicapt-get install libusb-0.1-4:i386 should do it
09:55.27APicNope
09:55.32APicE: Paket libusb-0.1-4 kann nicht gefunden werden.
09:56.20APicMaybe i shall really rather use the 0xFFFF; You should adopt that in Your Script too ☺
09:56.25DocScrutinizer05apt-cache search libusb
09:57.01luke-jrDebian doesn't have 32-bit repos by default on 64-bit OS
09:57.07luke-jryou need to add the arch somehow I forget
09:57.17APicecho "foreign-architecture i386" > /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch
09:57.20DocScrutinizer05aaah right
09:58.10KotCzarnyapic: try apt-cache search libusb|grep 0.1
09:58.39APiclibusb-0.1-4 - Userspace USB-Programmierbibliothek
09:58.40APiclibusb++-0.1-4c2 - userspace C++ USB programming library
09:59.03APicdpkg: Fehler: Konfigurationsfehler: /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch:1: unbekannte Option »foreign-architecture«
09:59.06APicThat was not it B-(
09:59.12KotCzarnyor i can simply put that lib somewhere
09:59.27KotCzarnyor better, download from slackware32 :P
09:59.34APicB-)
10:00.01APicBut i would like Multiarch anyhow
10:00.15DocScrutinizer05well, my script did sth similar already
10:00.53APicdpkg --add-architecture i386
10:00.56APicMaybe that helps
10:01.06APicAt least that is from official https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO#Configuring_architectures
10:01.06DocScrutinizer05I think I even included the debian lib
10:01.26APicYah, but libusb obviously needs other Libs
10:02.06APicYup
10:02.23APicNow „apt-get update“ leeches i386 Package-Lists
10:02.25APicWin o/
10:02.28APic☺
10:02.59APicNow „apt-get install libusb-0.1-4:i386“ works and installs:   gcc-4.9-base:i386 libc6:i386 libc6-i686:i386 libgcc1:i386
10:03.09KotCzarny:)
10:03.12APic☺
10:03.19KotCzarnymadd to wiki maybe
10:06.08APicOk
10:06.35APicDocScrutinizer05: Now the Script runs
10:06.41APicSuitable USB device not found, waiting.
10:06.50APicProbably i need to connect it without USB-Hub
10:08.04APicErasing CMT:  54%
10:08.05APico/
10:08.37DocScrutinizer05APic: could you please provide the lib for my script?
10:08.59KotCzarnydoc, he had to install more than one lib
10:09.02APicgcc-4.9-base:i386 libc6:i386 libc6-i686:i386 libgcc1:i386gcc-4.9-base:i386 libc6:i386 libc6-i686:i386 libgcc1:i386?
10:09.09DocScrutinizer05yes
10:09.16APicOk
10:09.30KotCzarnyand debian lib32 expect ld.so in /lib32 etc
10:09.49KotCzarnyso you will have either run via chroot or symlink it to /somewhere
10:09.57DocScrutinizer05I'm smarter than debian
10:10.10APicMaybe Your Script should rather do: „dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get install libusb-0.1-4:i386“
10:10.11DocScrutinizer05and than you ;-P
10:10.16KotCzarnyits not that hard to be smarter than debian nowadays
10:10.22DocScrutinizer05sorry that's BS
10:10.23APicWell
10:10.26APicNot _everybody_ has Debian
10:10.50KotCzarnythat's why i mentioned chrooting
10:10.51APicWhen i up the Libs, it works on Slackware too
10:10.55APicAnd NixOS and whatever
10:10.58KotCzarnybut doc thinks he is smarter
10:11.06APicDoc is the Man ☺
10:11.25APicHm
10:11.32APicWhere are the 32Bit-Libs?
10:11.37APicThere is no /usr/lib32
10:11.41KotCzarnydo ldd on the library
10:11.43KotCzarnyyou will see
10:11.45APick
10:11.49KotCzarnyor on flasher itself
10:12.45APic<PROTECTED>
10:12.50APicOk
10:12.57KotCzarnybut notice ld location
10:13.04KotCzarnyits not movable
10:13.25APicWhoah
10:13.28APicTons of Stuff
10:13.42APicLots of Symlinks too
10:13.44DocScrutinizer05o.O
10:14.16APic[5.0.7]apic@Ant:/lib/i386-linux-gnu> find | nopaste-it
10:14.21APic<PROTECTED>
10:14.36APicI think we really should just add to the WiKi that You need a 32Bit-Environment
10:14.39DocScrutinizer05I don't want the whole dir
10:14.42APicModern Distros should just handle that
10:14.50KotCzarnyapic,nah, chroot is enough
10:14.55DocScrutinizer05gcc-4.9-base:i386 libc6:i386 libc6-i686:i386 libgcc1:i386gcc-4.9-base:i386 libc6:i386 libc6-i686:i386 libgcc1:i386
10:15.07APicYes, that are the Packages
10:15.10APicDo You need the .dpkg?
10:15.23DocScrutinizer05no
10:15.29APics/dpkg/deb/
10:15.31DocScrutinizer05the binaries
10:16.01DocScrutinizer05did you look into the script?
10:16.06APiclibmemusage.so etc?
10:16.12APicNot really deeply
10:16.21KotCzarnyjust things from ldd flasher-3.5
10:16.36APicAh
10:16.50APicAt the Moment i am trying to get an Account on WiKi.Maemo.Org
10:16.59DocScrutinizer05ouch
10:17.02APicBut if You will update Your Script there anyhow, i will not need that ;)
10:18.07APicOkay, so it LD_PRELOADs Stuff
10:18.15APicSo i do only need the Dependencies
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10:19.06APicThat is probably only: libc.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xf751c000)  then
10:19.49APiclrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Feb 29  2016 libc.so.6 -> libc-2.19.so
10:20.06APicf42334db538ccd1a5408551af03b65422c110960  libc-2.19.so
10:21.57APichttp://tmp.apic.name/libc-2.19.so
10:22.00APicThere You are ☺
10:25.08DocScrutinizer05it's all in ldd maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2/flasher-3.5  that is in "gcc-4.9-base:i386 libc6:i386 libc6-i686:i386 libgcc1:i386gcc-4.9-base:i386 libc6:i386 libc6-i686:i386 libgcc1:i386" too
10:28.04DocScrutinizer05alas _you_ can't test now anymore if it really works :-)
10:36.23APicTrue
10:37.35APicSo maybe „linux-gate.so.1 (0xf76f0000)“ is needed, too
10:37.48APic/lib/ld-linux.so.2 seems to work with the 64-Bit-Linker
10:38.17APicThen there is the provided libusb-0.1.so.4 and the libc.so.6 i upped, so that should really suffice ☺
10:38.39APic(In the four Lines of „ldd flasher-3.5“)
10:39.01KotCzarnylinux-gate is virtual dependency from kernel
10:39.03APicld-linux.so.2: symbolic link to i386-linux-gnu/ld-2.19.so
10:39.06KotCzarnynotreal
10:39.07APicUh oh
10:40.11APicWhere the Heck is the 64-Bit-ld then?
10:40.18APicAh
10:40.23APic/lib64
10:40.24KotCzarnyyou have all in ldd output
10:40.24APic☺
10:44.47DocScrutinizer05could you pastebin the result of ldd ?
10:45.14DocScrutinizer05and maybe also of your apt-get install run
10:49.03APicno longer has the Terminal with the apt-get-Run open, sorry
10:49.27APichttp://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?1119838
10:49.56APicBut APT logs, does jnot it?
10:50.00APic<PROTECTED>
10:50.53APicYup
10:50.54APicMompls
10:51.28APichttp://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?1119839  There You are ☺
10:52.06DocScrutinizer05seems what I'd need is /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libusb-0.1.so.4 and  /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 , the latter just finished wget
10:55.31APiclrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 Okt 21  2014 libusb-0.1.so.4 -> libusb-0.1.so.4.4.4
10:56.10APichttp://tmp.apic.name/libusb-0.1.so.4.4.4
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11:00.48DocScrutinizer05grrr
11:00.56DocScrutinizer05APic: thanks
11:01.23APicYou are welcome.
11:02.05DocScrutinizer05hmm, could you do me a favor and test a little hack?
11:02.10APicSure
11:03.41DocScrutinizer05copy  /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 and /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libusb-0.1.so.4 into maemo-my-private-workdir
11:04.28DocScrutinizer05rename  /lib/i386-linux-gnu/:  mv  /lib/i386-linux-gnu/  /lib/i386-linux-gnu-XXX/
11:05.06APicDone
11:05.31DocScrutinizer05then test that flasher fails to run: cd maemo-my-private-workdir; maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2/flasher-3.5
11:06.19APicYes
11:06.20APicFails
11:06.23DocScrutinizer05good
11:06.37APic☺
11:07.30APicCan i move it back, or does the Test continue?
11:07.30DocScrutinizer05now: LD_PRELOAD=./libusb-0.1.so.4.4.4:./libc.so.6 maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2/flasher-3.5
11:07.36APicAh
11:07.38APic☺
11:07.45APictoo impatient
11:08.20APicStill does not work
11:08.26DocScrutinizer05damn!!
11:08.31APic-_-
11:09.36APicProbably You really need the 32-Bit-ld
11:09.42DocScrutinizer05LD_TRACE_LOADED_OBJECTS=yes LD_PRELOAD=./libusb-0.1.so.4.4.4:./libc.so.6 maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2/flasher-3.5
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11:10.21APicSame Error, no further Output than: zsh: datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden: maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2/flasher-3.5
11:10.23DocScrutinizer05huh?
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11:10.57APicThat is the error i get all the Time
11:11.07APicOf Course „File or Directory not found“ is a spurious Error
11:11.34DocScrutinizer05yeah, maximum useless error message when a lib is missing
11:11.34APicIt just means the Linker fails, and probably You really need to provide/call the 32-Bit-ld-linux
11:12.15DocScrutinizer0532bit ldlinux?
11:12.17DocScrutinizer05wow
11:12.23DocScrutinizer05never heard of that
11:12.55APic/lib/i386-linux-gnu-XXX/ld-2.19.so
11:13.04APicLet us try to put that in Front of the Binary
11:13.46APic./flasher-3.5: error while loading shared libraries: libusb-0.1.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
11:13.49APicYup
11:13.49DocScrutinizer05weird, why would it need to be a 32bit version? the ELF format of 32bit binaries is ok for the 64bit ld
11:13.52APicNow it searches for the Libs
11:13.59APicSo LD_PRELOAD would work now probably
11:14.16APicThat is a good Point that it would not actually be needed, yah ;)
11:15.07DocScrutinizer05ok wait a minute
11:15.13APic[5.0.7]{2}apic@Ant:~/maemo-my-private-workdir> LD_PRELOAD=./libusb-0.1.so.4.4.4:./libc.so.6 /lib/i386-linux-gnu-XXX/ld-2.19.so maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2/flasher-3.5
11:15.16APicThat one works.
11:15.23APicflasher v2.5.2 (Oct 21 2009)
11:16.14DocScrutinizer05wow!
11:16.17APic☺
11:16.25DocScrutinizer05thanks, that's what I planned to ask you for
11:17.12DocScrutinizer05now please rename /lib/i386-linux-gnu-XXX back to correct name
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11:17.28MaxdamantusI don't think you would usually use a 64-bit ld-linux to load 32-bit programs.
11:17.37APicDone
11:17.48Maxdamantuslrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Feb 18  2016 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 -> ../lib32/ld-linux.so.2
11:17.57APicMaxdamantus: Yah, probably it _would_ work, but does not _want_ to work because of a Sanity-Check ;)
11:18.18MaxdamantusI have that on my system, which is the normal path hardcoded into 32-bit ELFs.
11:18.23APiclrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   32 Feb 29  2016 ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 -> /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ld-2.19.so
11:18.40APic(/lib64/)
11:19.49MaxdamantusI think it's typically different on Debian.
11:20.14DocScrutinizer05phhhh  http://paste.opensuse.org/39205569
11:20.53Maxdamantusld != ldd
11:21.07KotCzarnyshh, doc is SMARTER
11:21.09KotCzarny;)
11:21.29APiclol, „bfd“ reminded me of BrainFuck ;)
11:22.23Maxdamantusld-linux = ldd
11:22.41Maxdamantusld is for linking binaries together to new binaries.
11:22.59APic*nod*
11:23.57APicBut no, „ldd“ is also not ld-linux, it really just prints the Stuff ld-linux will link
11:24.03DocScrutinizer05I guess you're right: http://paste.opensuse.org/82811691
11:24.13APicld-linux-Dumper i would call it
11:24.28MaxdamantusWell, ldd is usually a shell script that invokes ld-linux.
11:24.29KotCzarnyman ldd:        ldd - print shared library dependencies
11:24.54MaxdamantusI think it used to typically just be a symlink to ld-linux.
11:25.24Maxdamantusnote that for that to work, ld-linux needs to have dependency printing functionality built-in.
11:25.24KotCzarnyjust read the man page
11:25.27KotCzarnyfor details
11:26.05APicYup
11:26.19Maxdamantus$ /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 --list `which ls`
11:30.17DocScrutinizer05binfmtbinfmt fsckng magic
11:30.43DocScrutinizer05jr@saturn:~/mymaemo-workdir/maemo-my-private-workdir> apropos binfmt
11:30.45DocScrutinizer05binfmt.d (5)         - Configure additional binary formats for executables at boot
11:30.46DocScrutinizer05systemd-binfmt (8)   - Configure additional binary formats for executables at boot
11:30.49DocScrutinizer05systemd-binfmt.service (8) - Configure additional binary formats for executables at boot
11:30.55DocScrutinizer05pukes
11:31.27DocScrutinizer05but yes, it must call a 32bit ld.so for 32bit ELF
11:32.49DocScrutinizer05I'm extremely shy to ship a ld.so binary with flash-it-all.sh
11:34.14KotCzarnyjust make a tiny chroot
11:34.16KotCzarnymuch easier
11:34.28KotCzarnyand safer
11:34.46DocScrutinizer05so sorry but when your system doesn't even know how to *load* ELF_32bit, my script is out of luck with hacks how to cope with that
11:35.30DocScrutinizer05KotCzarny: that's bullshit, running a chroot on an unknown target system from a shellscript is probably a *very* poor idea
11:35.51MaxdamantusI'm sure it can't be that hard to just create an image that includes all the dynamic objects you need.
11:36.12MaxdamantusIn fact, you could probably do it with cryopid.
11:36.15KotCzarnyapparently doc is not that smart as he wants us to believe
11:36.25DocScrutinizer05FU
11:36.53DocScrutinizer05fixes his /ignore
11:37.18MaxdamantusActually, cryopid will probably just remap the same files.
11:37.39Maxdamantuswill try soon.
11:38.50APicWhy do not You just switch from Binary-Foo to 0xFFFF?
11:39.05APicThat will make all Hacks needless
11:39.21KotCzarnyapic, there is no one-binary to run everywhere
11:39.27APicYes
11:39.32APicThat is why You ship the Source
11:39.46APicIf someone has no GCC, well…
11:39.52APicYou have to make _some_ Assumptions
11:39.54DocScrutinizer05bwahaha
11:40.50KotCzarnywhich is back to the hacks area
11:40.56APicTrue
11:41.10APicIf You have a Hacker-Smartphone and are no Hacker…
11:43.40KotCzarnyin short, on 32bit os it would run fine (with libusb-compat or -0 installing) on 64bit one has to allow running 32bit binaries
11:44.19APicYup
11:44.22APicJust put that in the WiKi
11:44.23KotCzarnyhaving one old laptop helps with old devices/software
11:44.30APic*nod*
11:45.59DocScrutinizer05there's nothing to put into the wiki, it already has sufficient info
11:48.12Maxdamantus<PROTECTED>
11:48.21Maxdamantusfrom cryopid, so I guess you could just use that.
11:49.19APicDocScrutinizer05: Even better ☺
11:56.07DocScrutinizer05marginally updated lazyflasher to include instructions how to install 32bit support under debian
11:56.11DocScrutinizer05APic: thanks!
11:56.22APic☺
12:00.08DocScrutinizer05idly ponders if the script needs a check for current dir content looking like maemo-my-private-workdir, so a new invokation of the download doesn't create it again recursively
12:00.39DocScrutinizer05~lazyflashing
12:00.39infobot[lazyflashing] http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach
12:03.35MaxdamantusMeh, the executable produced by cryopid seems to segfault.
12:03.39Maxdamantus0xdeadbeef04c0ffee in ?? ()
12:06.50MaxdamantusCould be because I'm freezing it while it's in a gdb breakpoint.
12:07.39Maxdamantusafaik, gdb works by injecting code into the target's address space.
12:08.24MaxdamantusThough wouldn't imagine it would do it while just doing simple break points (particularly, on syscalls)
12:18.03DocScrutinizer05ok, maybe seeya later, messing with cgroups now
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13:51.44DocScrutinizer05actually messing with rbind mounts which I messed up
13:52.04DocScrutinizer05umount -R is not always a great idea
13:52.23DocScrutinizer05particularly when you got TWO /dev
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