IRC log for #maemo on 20160823

00:23.43DocScrutinizer05~tell Oksana about pkgs
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00:55.46OksanaSure, was here, read that :-) Qnotted package looks like it does not depend on anything, and it sounds completely unrealistic when it is written in Qt.
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01:37.03DocScrutinizer05<PROTECTED>
01:37.52DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: sometimes the dang cronjob that executes the promotion gets stuck
01:42.40DocScrutinizer05üplease ping freemangordon1 about it
01:43.37DocScrutinizer05freemangordon1: xes: warfare: http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/qnotted/0.0.3/
01:43.46DocScrutinizer05doesn't promote
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08:53.38siceloam i deluded to think that Tizen is 'better' linux experience than Android? Samsung Z2 looks like it will be very cheap, and if it lands this side, i might like to have one
08:54.27siceloanyone here with a tizen phone/device who can share experiences?
08:55.21luke-jrno idea what Tizen is, but it's hard to be worse than Android
08:56.56luke-jrit doesn't look like there are any real production devices using it
08:57.14buzz_luke-jr: symbian
08:57.38luke-jrnever tried that :p
08:57.45buzz_hehe, lucky guy :P
08:57.49luke-jrI was already using real Linux on my handhelds by then
08:58.05luke-jrsince 2003
08:58.32sicelobuzz_: symbian is completely different
08:59.02bencohbada? :]
08:59.28bencoh(since we're talking about samsung/tizen ...)
08:59.29buZzsicelo: http://whiteboard.ping.se/Android/Debian
08:59.40buZzmight be of interest to you ;)
08:59.44luke-jrhttp://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/reference/zaurus-review.html
08:59.48buZzzaurus <3
09:00.14luke-jrI still have mine sitting on top of my desktop PC :x
09:00.18buZz:D
09:00.24luke-jrno idea where the charger is tho
09:00.32siceloyes, should be closer to bada ( bencoh )
09:00.49buZzjust learned that luke-jr was considering burning CDroms on his PDA back in 2003 ;)
09:00.52buZzhrhr
09:00.57luke-jrI was?
09:01.05buZz> A USB host port would allow one to connect a CD writer, though that might be a drain on the battery if used when not connected to an outlet.
09:01.11buZz:D
09:01.26buZzjust skimmed ;)
09:01.37bencohlrlr
09:01.38bencohkrkr*
09:01.39buzz_luke-jr: try ebay
09:01.49luke-jrbuzz_: ?
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09:02.16sicelobuZz: not interested in chroot ... i can do that and more on N900 :)
09:02.21luke-jrhuh, SL-C3200 still going for $190
09:02.34buZzsicelo: maybe look deeper ;) this isnt about chroot debian inside android
09:02.35bencohz1 might be more interesting than all those qualcomm toys, soc-wise
09:02.45buZzsicelo: its about -android- as chroot inside linux
09:04.10siceloah yes .. i could see it's chroot, didn't notice the 'direction' ... either way, not helping me have linux in my pocket :)
09:04.38sicelobookmarking that to try on my pc however
09:07.20sicelohmm, we go into Android, then Debian, then Android?
09:08.06luke-jrsicelo: Android kernel, Debian rootfs, Android rootfs
09:08.24luke-jrsicelo: if you want Linux in your pocket, https://pyra-handheld.com/
09:09.13sicelo$$$
09:09.29luke-jrwell good luck finding an alternative for less $$$
09:09.45bencohthis thing is actually interesting
09:09.53bencoh(the android chroot)
09:10.22buZzyeah its pretty cute
09:10.26bencohsomeone worked on something similar on n900 iirc
09:10.31buZzi wanna try it on a 40 usd android
09:10.56sicelobencoh: what on N900?
09:11.04bencohsicelo: android in a chroot
09:11.09siceloah
09:11.30bencohhe had to use a SIGSTOP hack to "share" display though :[
09:11.31bencoh:]
09:11.37bencohsomething quite .... hacky
09:11.47buZzhttp://aliexpress.com/item/Melrose-S9-Smallest-Android-Phone-3G-WIFI-Ultra-Slim-Mini-I6-Mobile-Phone-MTK6572-Dual-Core/32715744574.html
09:11.51buZz^^ toy
09:12.31buZz2.4" screen is so cute
09:12.45buZzto make fun of all the ppl who actually need reading glasses but instead get a 7" phone
09:12.50bencohhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92898
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09:13.51buZzseems kinda ded
09:14.20luke-jrlike everything else N900 :<
09:14.45buZzcomforts luke-jr
09:14.47buZzthere there
09:15.00buZzi still wanna 'plain debian' my n800
09:15.23bencohbuZz: well, you have kernel sources, so ... :)
09:15.30buZzuhuh
09:15.33buZzsupport in mainline even
09:15.34bencoh;)
09:15.43bencohis that full mainline?
09:15.47bencohnot sure about it
09:16.18buZzwhats 'full' mainline?
09:17.13bencohmainline with full driver support
09:17.25bencohoh btw, for those that might want to try the debian/android chroot: https://gitorious.org/android-n900/nitdroid-kernel
09:17.32bencohyou'll need an android kernel :)
09:17.47buZzbencoh: no clue, i dont think its that much
09:17.54buZzjust .. screen and wifi?
09:17.58buZzand touchscreen?
09:21.06bencohand leds, charger, battery, and dunno what
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09:21.24bencohvpu/dsp? I dont remember if this thing has one
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09:33.21buZzit does have a dsp, but i havent seen a use for it
09:34.05bencohmp3 playback iirc
09:59.12buZzlol
09:59.26buZz:)
10:00.23buZz> > [ 7894.137054] omapdsp: tadd address is ABORTADR.
10:00.23buZz> > [ 7894.137145] omapdsp: task attach failed for mp3dec!
10:00.25buZzi see :P
10:00.47bencohhuhu
10:01.04bencohdunno then :)
10:01.22buZzi actually expect the omap3 to be fast enough to do it in sw
10:01.26buZzor is it a omap2? hmm
10:01.39buZzomap2 ah
10:02.02bencohyeah, but it's still fast enough to play mp3 in software
10:02.18bencoh(especially with integer implems, like libmad's)
10:13.47buZzsomewhere i made a start at running native debian on it, around kernel 4.2.0 (for weed references)
10:13.55buZzmaybe i should continue it
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10:46.17KotCzarnythe heck, why was my nick changed o.O
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11:22.14sicelobecause KotCzarny sucks
11:22.16sicelo:p
11:22.19sicelohaha
11:22.24sicelowhat did it change to?
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11:32.24KotCzarnydont know why it changed to 'buzz_'
11:32.33KotCzarnyas i dont remember typing such command
11:32.40buZzits your sleeping alias
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15:17.24DocScrutinizer05freemangordon1: ping
15:17.31DocScrutinizer05merlin1991: ping
15:17.45DocScrutinizer05warfare: ping
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15:25.10DocScrutinizer05(whois buzz_
15:26.58buZzme
15:27.34buZzDocScrutinizer05: yw
15:27.49DocScrutinizer05:-)
15:28.23DocScrutinizer05see query
15:31.48DocScrutinizer05buZz: much better :-)
15:32.50buZz<3
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19:04.32freemangordon1DocScrutinizer05: pong
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19:13.09DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: could you look into http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/qnotted/0.0.3/ and why it doesn't promote?
19:13.57freemangordonok, will do, later or tomorrow
19:14.11DocScrutinizer05ta
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20:54.50fishbulbhi, I can send an MMS to myself, but not to anyone else
20:55.38fishbulbfmms 1.3.5
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21:43.02sixwheeledbeastI don't know why you would want to do that but send it to your own number?
21:46.14fishbulbI was testing it
21:46.24fishbulbI don't know why it's not sending out to other numbers
21:46.52fishbulbit's exacly what I don't want. I want the opposite of that. where the other numbers get the mms
21:47.06fishbulbI can receive them fine
21:47.47fishbulbwhatsapp going was a huge loss to this phone :(
22:01.12sixwheeledbeastI don't care for any of that whatsapp rubbish, I have no issues with my MMS AFAIK
22:03.21sixwheeledbeastIf you have the correct settings from your provider it should work, I have mine on Havoc mode.
22:03.39xesDocScrutinizer05: sixwheeledbeast: about qnotted..
22:03.56xesinfo: Generating install file for qnotted_0.0.3_armel.deb to /var/repository/staging/extras/dists/fremantle/install
22:03.58xeswarning: The package qnotted_0.0.3_armel.changes has no internal maintainer
22:04.00xeswarning: No mails provided to send a notification
22:04.02xesinfo: Change file qnotted_0.0.3_armel.changes deleted
22:04.40sixwheeledbeastare you using international code with your numbers
22:06.09fishbulbI have mine in havoc mode
22:06.26fishbulbother poeple don't get the mms
22:07.33fishbulbI select the number from my contacts, then I try to send it
22:08.05fishbulbwhy would I use international code
22:10.48sixwheeledbeastIt's odd how there's no dependencies listed on the package page, maybe the builder what fubar when originally uploaded?
22:11.36sixwheeledbeastinternational code can be important
22:19.26KotCzarnyxes, maybe that log should be public?
22:20.01KotCzarnywould allow devs to debug such problems themselves
22:25.45xesKotCzarny: most of these logs are not ready for plain public access
22:27.16xesanyway this ^^ message is just a warning and maybe is not the root cause of the problem
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22:58.08DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: please fix the issues xes noted, on qnotted. Then bump the revision and upload to extras-devel. I'll promote to testing enad extras
22:58.36fishbulbhas anyone personally tried connecting an android device to bluetooth PAN on the n900
22:58.41DocScrutinizer05and*
22:59.21DocScrutinizer05yes
22:59.51fishbulbwhich device and version of android?
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23:12.31fishbulbDocScrutinizer05, was that a yes to "yes I have tried connecting an android device" or "yes and it also worked"
23:17.59fishbulbso that's a no to both then.
23:36.07ds3yes
23:36.10ds3long time ago
23:37.09fishbulbdid it work though
23:38.01ds3yep
23:45.06xessixwheeledbeast: there are no dependencies because: warning: unknown substitution variable ${shlibs:Depends}  https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fremantle/qnotted_0.0.3/armel.build.log.OK.txt

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