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| 09:48.46 | kerio | oh man |
| 09:49.11 | kerio | the two screws that are visible on the back of the screen are like 100% rust |
| 09:49.30 | kerio | is that a common thing |
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| 10:49.14 | dkbrz | hi. i've got a stupid question. is it ok to run rescueOS from u-boot? instead of backupmenu. like mkimage and stuff? |
| 10:49.26 | L29Ah | it is ok |
| 10:49.36 | KotCzarny | rescueos is standalone |
| 10:49.43 | KotCzarny | so as long it boots, it runs |
| 10:49.58 | KotCzarny | and usually ran via usb flashing load |
| 10:50.05 | dkbrz | yes, i know |
| 10:50.06 | KotCzarny | *flasher |
| 10:50.34 | dkbrz | but for backup purposes with dd, i'd like to have it on-device |
| 10:50.42 | dkbrz | untill it breaks :) |
| 10:57.08 | dkbrz | L29Ah: so, just converting both zImage and initrd from rescueOS release with mkimage to uImage format, placing both images to /opt/boot/ and crearing menu entry does the thing? |
| 10:59.32 | KotCzarny | its just a kernel with initd |
| 10:59.35 | KotCzarny | nothing magical |
| 11:00.55 | dkbrz | KotCzarny: these times you never know :) when robots coding robots coding robots, strange things may happen |
| 11:03.29 | dkbrz | and for initrd, mkinit load address and entry point options should be both 0? |
| 11:03.44 | dkbrz | s/mkinit/mkimage/ |
| 11:04.53 | KotCzarny | no need to set it specifically, so its either inside zimage or default |
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| 11:32.51 | dkbrz | hm |
| 11:32.55 | dkbrz | ** Unable to read file bootmenu.img.d/rescueOS-1.2-initrd.uImage |
| 11:33.19 | DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: rust? ohmy, no not common |
| 11:39.52 | dkbrz | ok, /opt/boot/ is not enough, bootmenu.img.d/ is in MyDocs, apparently... |
| 11:40.11 | dkbrz | but then it works like a charm |
| 11:40.34 | KotCzarny | dkbrz: do you have some bootmenu with that uboot? |
| 11:40.52 | dkbrz | yes, i have kernel-power |
| 11:41.00 | dkbrz | but it's only kernel |
| 11:41.20 | dkbrz | i did not have any examples with additional initrd images |
| 11:42.01 | dkbrz | now i did: |
| 11:42.04 | dkbrz | $ mkimage -A arm -O linux -T kernel -C none -a 80008000 -e 80008000 -n rescueOS-1.2-kernel -d n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/rescueOS-1.2/rescueOS_n900_kernel_1.2.zImage rescueOS-1.2-kernel.uImage |
| 11:42.19 | dkbrz | $ mkimage -A arm -O linux -T ramdisk -n rescueOS-1.2-initrd -d n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/rescueOS-1.2/rescueOS-1.2.img rescueOS-1.2-initrd.uImage |
| 11:42.42 | dkbrz | and created 99-rescueOS-1.2.item |
| 11:42.54 | dkbrz | containing: |
| 11:42.55 | dkbrz | ITEM_NAME="rescueOS-1.2" |
| 11:42.55 | dkbrz | ITEM_KERNEL="rescueOS-1.2-kernel.uImage" |
| 11:42.55 | dkbrz | ITEM_INITRD="rescueOS-1.2-initrd.uImage" |
| 11:42.55 | dkbrz | ITEM_CMDLINE="rootdelay root=/dev/ram0" |
| 11:43.19 | dkbrz | placed both images in /opt/boot |
| 11:43.25 | dkbrz | and it did not work |
| 11:43.46 | dkbrz | then copied both to MyDocs/bootmenu.img.d/ |
| 11:43.51 | dkbrz | and then it worked |
| 11:48.38 | Maxdamantus | That bootmenu thing seems unnecessarily complicated. |
| 11:49.06 | Maxdamantus | just uses this: https://gist.github.com/Maxdamantus/949e81b445ffaa068449 |
| 11:50.09 | dkbrz | huh, python :) |
| 11:50.29 | Maxdamantus | It suffices, and is fairly portable. |
| 11:51.11 | Maxdamantus | Can run that boot.scr.py independently anywhere to create the boot.scr file. |
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| 11:52.36 | Maxdamantus | including from what I normally use as a rescue system: just a 3.14 kernel I've had for a while, and the old ubifs on NAND that I don't use anymore for my main system. |
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| 11:54.13 | Wizzup | Maxdamantus: I don't find the boot menu complicated at all |
| 11:54.22 | Wizzup | It's actually really simple |
| 11:55.16 | Maxdamantus | Compared to the first 14 lines of that Python program? |
| 11:55.38 | Wizzup | reinventing the wheel that is already round :) |
| 12:01.59 | dkbrz | hmm.. one more stupid question. i normally don't use n900 as a phone - only as pocket linux terminal. so, I use 3g radio only when I need connectivity. I disable it with dbus-dend com.nokia.phone.SSC.set_radio fo false, and enable it with true on demand. Question: what is the easiest way to boot n900 with 3G radio didsabled? |
| 12:13.40 | KotCzarny | if you have dbus-send then you can put it in startup scripts |
| 12:14.09 | KotCzarny | but easiest is installing tablet mode button in powerkey menu |
| 12:16.53 | dkbrz | does it preserve mode on boot? i think it uses the same dbus send, and how ever early it's in the scripts, modem still register to operator network befor you can use it... |
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| 12:19.48 | KotCzarny | add it to initrd then? |
| 12:21.27 | sixwheeledbeast | I don't believe there is much benefit in disabling the radio completely, maybe a small amount of battery if that's important |
| 12:21.40 | KotCzarny | swb: privacy? |
| 12:22.06 | dkbrz | sixwheeledbeast: i don't want to flash myself on the operator network every time i accidentially boot :) |
| 12:22.36 | sixwheeledbeast | i see |
| 12:22.36 | buZz | dkbrz: wrap it in tinfoil? :D |
| 12:23.07 | dkbrz | buZz: I'll consider it as an option |
| 12:23.10 | KotCzarny | buzz, tinfoil is overrated, 2cm wall of solid metal. |
| 12:23.14 | buZz | ^_^ |
| 12:23.36 | buZz | i'm misty on the details, is N900 ok if you just kill the modem completely? |
| 12:23.48 | KotCzarny | he still wants to use it occasionally |
| 12:23.52 | KotCzarny | so no |
| 12:23.53 | KotCzarny | ;) |
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| 12:24.23 | buZz | 'i used to be able to use this' <- this falls under occasionally for me |
| 12:24.31 | dkbrz | KotCzarny: the best option would be setting this "false" variable by default, maybe on filesystem. Or, trace what it actually does, and make these changes default on boot |
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| 12:24.49 | sixwheeledbeast | So I assume the reason flight mode is not an option is wifi is required? |
| 12:25.02 | KotCzarny | does modem boot/hop on operator even without firmware? |
| 12:26.21 | KotCzarny | and tablet mode disabled cell while leaving wifi working |
| 12:28.17 | dkbrz | is flight mode still on after reboot if it was enabled? |
| 12:28.27 | KotCzarny | unlikely |
| 12:28.53 | sixwheeledbeast | Yes, but it requests you to disable it |
| 12:29.39 | KotCzarny | swb, he asks not about flight mode setting but if during reboot modem gets reenabled before flight mode disables it again |
| 12:30.44 | sixwheeledbeast | I wouldn't know on a modem level |
| 12:30.55 | sixwheeledbeast | ~boot-process |
| 12:30.55 | infobot | [boot-process] http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87959 |
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| 16:11.50 | dkbrz | damn. dbus is comletely alien thing to me. something between iTunes and windows registery. basic question before i sacrifice my this night to dbus docs - is it generally possible to place some xml file somewhere on the filesystem, so, when dbus starts it sets 'com.nokia.phone.SSC.set_radio' to 'false'? or man I missing the point completely? |
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| 16:23.58 | dkbrz | od dbus is only the media here, and sscd startup options should be tuned? |
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| 17:25.01 | dkbrz | hmm... looks like blacklisting phonet module via /etc/modprobe.d/ does not work? |
| 17:33.05 | KotCzarny | i think phonet is something else |
| 17:33.14 | KotCzarny | ie. just a bridge to the modem chip |
| 17:34.45 | dkbrz | so, disabling it will not make modem chip not initialising on boot? |
| 17:37.13 | dkbrz | my pink phantasy was blacklisting it, and then only insmoding it manually when i need radio :) |
| 17:43.49 | KotCzarny | phink pantasy |
| 17:49.32 | dkbrz | ye. like "The Slow Rise Of The PSS 280" by Simon Stålenhag. I own 'Tales from the Loop' hardcover, and was allways thinging he's only in painting. |
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| 18:04.18 | kerio | dkbrz: you might want to look into the neo900 |
| 18:04.29 | kerio | it actively treats the modem as hostile |
| 18:09.26 | dkbrz | kerio: I wish I could :( |
| 18:10.21 | dkbrz | I am poor working class - do not have spare 1k eur. second market or stealing are the only options ;] |
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| 18:33.05 | sicelo | what is the reason for the hostility against cellular radio by the way? |
| 18:33.45 | KotCzarny | it marks your imei position |
| 18:33.53 | KotCzarny | even without sim |
| 18:34.25 | sicelo | ? |
| 18:34.45 | KotCzarny | and another thing is firmware backdoor possibility |
| 18:34.56 | KotCzarny | cellular modems are usually selfcontained machines |
| 18:35.07 | sicelo | i'm asking in connection with dkbrz |
| 18:36.33 | KotCzarny | then first case most likely |
| 18:41.11 | dkbrz | sicelo: tracking |
| 18:43.01 | sicelo | and still happy to be tracked when you decide to enable cellular? |
| 18:46.17 | dkbrz | sicelo: it's controlled. when i decide. in some countries mobile operators are obliged to create direct hooks frg governments into at least signaling. people working for government are of 2 types - incompetent ones, unable to find their place in serious business, or completely of malicious type, being there for abuse reasons. in any case, you loose as a customer, and i don't know what's worse of these 2. whan |
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