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| 02:18.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | ouch |
| 02:20.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | though honestly why do you bother about lead |
| 02:20.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's not like you're supposed to eat it |
| 02:25.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | in several towns here old houses still have lead water pipes. Until a maybe 10 years ago gas stations sold leaded gasoline. Hunters still shoot their prey with lead bullets, particularly birds with lead shot, then eat that meat (though they rather shouldn't eat the lead particles) |
| 02:26.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | "expired 2009" sounds really nasty though |
| 02:28.40 | Oksana | Could be copycat, though. A copycat with no idea how to write down "best before" on the package? |
| 02:28.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | in all electronics shops you still have a hard time to find leadfree solder wire. It's simply not necessary for "hobbyists" |
| 02:29.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | nah, just old product, with way too long shelf time, sounds like the more plausible explanation |
| 02:30.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I thought the kabel had no 2best before:"? |
| 02:30.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I thought the label had no "best before:"? |
| 02:33.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | or was there "best before:" and then no date printed? then it actually might be a ghost shift product |
| 02:35.27 | Oksana | Nay, I just meant that a "skilled" copycat should read up on what lot# actually means, instead of just re-using lot# over and over again, because in this case lot# actually corresponds to "expired in 2009" |
| 02:37.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | nope, that's not like they work |
| 02:37.14 | Oksana | But yes, fairly likely that somebody tries to get rid of old product. Does not supply photos of it on EBay, either; photos of flux pens are here, photos of solder are not. Aka, let's shift work of properly disposing of old paste to hapless customers |
| 02:37.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 02:38.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | also you avoid losses this way |
| 02:38.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | since you actually *sell* that crap |
| 02:38.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | so it's not only about disposal |
| 02:39.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | and in the end... there *is no* "nest before:" on the label, so why should they even bother? |
| 02:39.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's manuf's fault to not have a best-before |
| 02:40.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | the reseller isn't to blame for not taking care about something he possibly doesn't even know of |
| 02:41.55 | Oksana | No "best before" on label, true; no "store it refrigerated", either. But then, all this data is probably on the box (which was containing the syringes with solder paste), or something. |
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| 08:02.51 | fishbulb | backupmenu |
| 08:03.08 | fishbulb | hi where's the link for backupmenu please? with the dependencies? |
| 08:03.23 | KotCzarny | ~bm |
| 08:03.23 | infobot | hmm... backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975, or one-click install handling dependency issues: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/BM.install |
| 08:03.39 | fishbulb | so I can click on that and it'll install, right? |
| 08:04.50 | fishbulb | I think I'm on my last cobbled together handset :/ |
| 08:06.32 | fishbulb | and that's ok for cssu ? |
| 08:09.32 | fishbulb | has anyone here done the usb fix with a handset that has no traces left on the mainboard? |
| 08:09.55 | fishbulb | connecting various things to the gpio pads in the back of it |
| 08:11.48 | fishbulb | also I have this last functional handset that is factory reset, how do I get backupmenu onto it? |
| 08:12.21 | fishbulb | it's got a total wipe/reinstall |
| 08:14.53 | fishbulb | should it take longer than 10 minutes to install... ok it seems to be working on my every day phone |
| 08:19.37 | fishbulb | the new repos please? |
| 08:20.05 | fishbulb | working repos please |
| 08:29.41 | fishbulb | can I get a list of the working repos, please? |
| 08:30.36 | KotCzarny | ~maemo-repos |
| 08:30.36 | infobot | i heard maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories |
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| 08:32.39 | fishbulb | do the muarf ones work |
| 08:32.42 | fishbulb | or linenoise |
| 08:33.05 | fishbulb | there are .install links for both in that wiki but last time I did that it screwed up |
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| 08:33.26 | KotCzarny | make a backup then |
| 08:33.34 | KotCzarny | of /etc/apt/ |
| 08:34.42 | fishbulb | usb port is screwed, also application menu is just endlessly loading when I go to the catalogues |
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| 08:35.01 | fishbulb | after that backupmenu install |
| 08:39.28 | KotCzarny | you can try fixing it manually,exit app menu, run terminal and mc, go to /etc/apt/something.d/ and check what's there |
| 08:39.54 | fishbulb | actually it loaded after 10 minutes, there are quite a few repos there |
| 08:41.51 | fishbulb | how do I delete them all and get the working ones? |
| 08:42.08 | KotCzarny | pastebin what's there |
| 08:43.13 | fishbulb | um. how, I'm on a laptop |
| 08:43.30 | fishbulb | the usb port is screwed that's why I need to move everything to my last working handset |
| 08:43.40 | KotCzarny | you have ssh installed? |
| 08:43.59 | fishbulb | there's no something.d |
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| 08:44.59 | fishbulb | apt.conf.d sources.list trusted.gpg auth sources.list.d trusted.gpg~ secring.gpg trusteddb.gpg |
| 08:45.14 | fishbulb | trustdb.gpg I mean |
| 08:45.19 | KotCzarny | cd to sources.list.d |
| 08:45.25 | fishbulb | cd sources.list.d |
| 08:45.29 | fishbulb | duh |
| 08:45.52 | fishbulb | hildon-application-manager.list |
| 08:46.00 | KotCzarny | pastebin that file |
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| 08:46.14 | fishbulb | how I do that |
| 08:46.24 | fishbulb | usb is toast |
| 08:46.30 | KotCzarny | if you have curl installed you may try: curl --upload-file hildon-application-manager.list http://transfer.sh |
| 08:47.17 | fishbulb | apt-get curl ? |
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| 08:47.49 | KotCzarny | dontremmember, maybe |
| 08:47.53 | fishbulb | apt-get install curl |
| 08:48.18 | fishbulb | no that didn't work |
| 08:48.23 | fishbulb | and curl doesn't either |
| 08:48.37 | KotCzarny | apt-cache search curl |
| 08:49.33 | fishbulb | how do I display the contents of the .list |
| 08:49.36 | fishbulb | I'll just type them out |
| 08:49.47 | fishbulb | I can't get anything with these obsolete repos |
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| 08:50.13 | fishbulb | or I can't seem to get curl. I should say. |
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| 22:24.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | why don't you just use hildon application manager (aka HAM) to disable (NOT delete!) repos that are not needed, like extras-devel? broken repos like the nokia ones you might want to delete |
| 22:25.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | install CSSU to have speedyHAM |
| 22:25.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~speedyham |
| 22:25.32 | infobot | SpeedyHAM is 30 times faster than HAM http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb. SpeedyHAM is included in CSSU-testing now |
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