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| 07:29.47 | Sicelo | one thing for sure, the failure of my N900 to export via USB Mass Storage is not hardware problem. it exports just fine in BM |
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| 07:31.54 | Sicelo | if anyone knows how the whole mass storage mechanism works, please ping me .. i am also checking on tmo |
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| 08:23.18 | Maxdamantus | Sicelo: modprobe g_file_storage file=/dev/... |
| 08:24.22 | Maxdamantus | preferably after making sure other modules beginning with "g_" are unloaded first (including g_file_storage) |
| 08:25.25 | Sicelo | Maxdamantus: yes, i've just noticed that module. it's not loaded on my N900. i wish to know why it's not though .. what should load it? |
| 08:26.22 | Maxdamantus | which? g_file_storage? |
| 08:27.26 | Maxdamantus | I think normally when you attach a USB cable some dialogue box asks you what you want to do, and I think one of the options causes it to load g_file_storage |
| 08:28.27 | Maxdamantus | I've made my system load g_ether on boot instead so that functionality wouldn't work, because sharing filesystems with live devices seems dodgy to me. |
| 08:28.50 | Wizzup | I don't think it shares a block device if it is already mounted |
| 08:29.01 | Maxdamantus | and at some point I changed my system so nothing popped up on USB. |
| 08:29.30 | Maxdamantus | I don't want to trust that it detects it's unmounted. |
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| 08:30.24 | Maxdamantus | there are things in the OS that lazily unmount the filesystem at some points, at which point you can't safely ensure the filesystem isn't in use. |
| 08:31.04 | Maxdamantus | has everything on a single ext4 filesystem anyway |
| 08:35.14 | Maxdamantus | (Linux's lack of ability to forcefully unmount filesystems has annoyed me for a while) |
| 08:35.36 | Wizzup | umount basically does that |
| 08:35.40 | Wizzup | er lazy* |
| 08:35.50 | Maxdamantus | Some of them react to some sysrq, but that can't target specific filesystems. |
| 08:36.05 | Maxdamantus | No. lazy doesn't really do anything at the filesystem level. |
| 08:36.21 | Maxdamantus | It just makes it so you can't traverse to it through its current mountpoints. |
| 08:36.46 | Maxdamantus | If processes still have files or directories open they can continue using the filesystem as usual. |
| 08:37.11 | Wizzup | really? |
| 08:37.13 | Wizzup | odd |
| 08:37.29 | Maxdamantus | eg, if you have an instance of `bash` with its cwd inside that filesystem, you can still do everything you normally can, spawn new processes to open files etc |
| 08:37.56 | Maxdamantus | Well, that's what it means by "lazy" |
| 08:39.09 | Maxdamantus | (when there are no processes left with references to files/directories in the filesystem it will be properly unmounted) |
| 08:40.11 | Sicelo | Maxdamantus: my problem is that the dialog does not come up |
| 08:40.54 | Sicelo | i didn't change any scripts to cause that .. so might have come with something i installed. at this time it would be difficult to even assume what did :P |
| 08:41.00 | Sicelo | i hardly use mass storage mode |
| 08:41.32 | Sicelo | but i do want it to work fine |
| 08:51.22 | Maxdamantus | can't remember what he did to change it. |
| 08:52.18 | Maxdamantus | 21:29 < Maxdamantus> Hm. I figured out how to remove the dialogue that pops up when you connect a USB cable: uninstall hildon-status-bar-usb |
| 08:52.52 | Maxdamantus | Maybe you'd want to reinstall that and see if it does something. |
| 08:53.05 | Sicelo | thanks. will do. |
| 08:53.18 | Maxdamantus | or maybe someone else can do `dpkg -L hildon-status-bar-usb` and say what's actually inside it. |
| 08:53.44 | Sicelo | i have it :) |
| 08:54.01 | Maxdamantus | Yeah, so see what programs are in it and if they're running. |
| 08:54.49 | Sicelo | just a *.so |
| 08:55.49 | Maxdamantus | Hm, so maybe just kill hildon-status-bar and see if something changes when it comes back up. Maybe run syslogd beforehand. |
| 08:56.07 | Sicelo | very good idea. yes. will do that |
| 09:02.22 | KotCzarny | or reboot |
| 09:02.34 | KotCzarny | it usually works on every system |
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| 09:03.09 | KotCzarny | sicelo: how was your oscp experience? got any bugs/requests/notes? |
| 09:07.10 | Sicelo | KotCzarny: i didn't use it for long. just tested a couple of songs that i have, and the videos. request would be something a bit more obvious to indicate a Help that tells one what the keys do |
| 09:07.44 | KotCzarny | keys or buttons? |
| 09:08.27 | Sicelo | hwkbd |
| 09:09.06 | KotCzarny | i've tried to make it quite intuitive when it comes with navigation, in short, left==go parent dir, right/enter==play highlighted or enter dir, up/down==move |
| 09:09.20 | KotCzarny | Repeat, Shuffle, Quit |
| 09:09.45 | Sicelo | a help key would be nice ... e.g. use '?' as in mutt |
| 09:09.49 | KotCzarny | dont remember which one is make-recursive-playlist, but you can simply check ~/.oscp/oscp.conf |
| 09:09.52 | KotCzarny | Help |
| 09:09.54 | KotCzarny | press h |
| 09:10.33 | Sicelo | but where is that shown? |
| 09:11.12 | Sicelo | you coul have it at the bottom .. at least in 'home' view only |
| 09:11.23 | KotCzarny | in help? a bit further in the text, i might make it more exposed |
| 09:11.48 | KotCzarny | also, which ui are you using? pygtk or ncurses? |
| 09:11.53 | KotCzarny | they differ a bit, but not much |
| 09:11.59 | Sicelo | i used ncurses |
| 09:12.04 | KotCzarny | then press h |
| 09:12.07 | KotCzarny | it shows the keys |
| 09:12.44 | KotCzarny | and you can remap almost all keys in config |
| 09:12.48 | Sicelo | you aren't getting me -- what i am saying is : you have a new oscp user .. how will he know what key does what? |
| 09:13.18 | KotCzarny | i assumed it obvious. in pygtk there is first time help |
| 09:13.30 | Sicelo | okay |
| 09:13.40 | KotCzarny | also, if you run: oscp -h it will show you the keys too |
| 09:13.54 | KotCzarny | usual linux experience is -h and/or manual |
| 09:23.25 | KotCzarny | also if you open hwkb you can control console oscp by clicking on screen areas |
| 09:26.06 | Sicelo | testing wargus ... yay! N900 is still worth keeping |
| 09:27.18 | Wizzup | Of course it is worth keeping |
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| 09:27.29 | KotCzarny | yup. |
| 09:28.38 | Sicelo | :) |
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| 10:44.15 | Sicelo | yay .. who said merlin1991 was awol? :) he's approved my extras upload request |
| 10:48.44 | KotCzarny | but what is council doing? |
| 10:50.38 | Sicelo | no idea :) |
| 10:50.41 | Sicelo | publicity? |
| 10:50.53 | KotCzarny | links? |
| 10:52.33 | KotCzarny | though keep in mind, not everyone is bound to spend 24/7 checking email/notifications |
| 11:16.25 | L29Ah | KotCzarny: they're facilitating! |
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| 12:33.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't council send meeting minutes of all weekly meetings anymore? |
| 12:34.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | those should answer pretty accurately what council does |
| 12:35.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | at least the major topics, aside of the recurring standard tasks |
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| 12:46.43 | jonwil | hi |
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| 15:19.10 | xes | hi DocScrutinizer05! I suppose sicelo req for upload rights is still pending.. I would approve his req but at the moment i have only limited connectivity. Please could you approve his request? |
| 15:19.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | xes: he said it got approved |
| 15:20.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | if not, I'll try to take care. NP |
| 15:20.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | however I have to find the right webpage for approval |
| 15:20.43 | xes | ok thanks |
| 15:21.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh wait, isn't it linked property of a garage project? |
| 15:21.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's easy then |
| 15:22.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, I#m pretty sure it's the project (or its owner) that has a property of "may upload to extras" in garage |
| 15:23.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | in the ancient times it possibly went via email, by simply replying "accept" or "reject" |
| 15:24.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, meeting |
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| 18:42.55 | Sicelo | xes: thanks. merlin approved my req :) |
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| 23:59.43 | Vajb | got my "new" n900 today and im amazed. It came in original box with original charger, charger adapter, handsfree and user guide. Only thing missing is av-cable. Cosmetically it seems to be in good condition. Only flaw is that it is missing that small "bumb" at screen unlock button. Will see how well it works hardware wise after i clone my old n900 to it. |