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11:48.57APic~combined
11:48.57infobotmethinks combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/, or http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/tmp/bin/n900/
11:49.18APic~flasher
11:49.18infobotextra, extra, read all about it, flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz.   HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/
11:55.49KotCzarnyyou want:
11:55.52KotCzarny~flashing
11:55.52infobotextra, extra, read all about it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing
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16:59.56CatButtsponders using SDL 1.2 instead of SDL 2.x in case he one day aquires an N900
17:00.29L29Ahwhat's the problem w/ sdl2 on n900?
17:00.50KotCzarnynot in repo
17:01.00KotCzarnyand no one bothered to check if it compiles/works
17:01.02L29Ahso it's not a problem with n900
17:01.09CatButtsnah
17:01.27KotCzarnybut seriously, there are apps that use sdl2?
17:01.39L29Ahlots of them
17:01.42L29Ahmostly games
17:02.27CatButtsI want a music tracker
17:03.11L29Ahwhat's that?
17:03.25KotCzarnyapp that lets you track music
17:03.29CatButtsa tool to make musics, with a vertical, grid-like interface
17:03.31L29Ahah, a synth w/ a certain loopy interface
17:03.39KotCzarnynope
17:03.46KotCzarnytracker
17:03.50KotCzarnysynth is a synth
17:04.17KotCzarnytracker is more like spreadsheet music
17:04.38CatButtshttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/-08x0xDsRYfY/Utfyvto5uFI/AAAAAAAAHkc/V19V74gZ1zg/s1600/schism.gif
17:05.21KotCzarnykeep in mind you have 800x480
17:05.41CatButtsso I make window with that default size
17:06.13CatButtsI have the replayer handy, the most intimidating thing is figuring out how to write GUI
17:06.21CatButtsfor me
17:06.29KotCzarnyif you just want easy way, learn pygtk
17:06.49KotCzarnyif you know c/c++ gofind ready made one
17:07.04CatButtsC
17:07.25L29Ahwhat's the problem with existing trackers for linux?
17:07.36CatButtssilly question
17:07.38KotCzarnythey dont do his replayer
17:08.10CatButts"my" replayer
17:08.30L29Ahwhat's that?
17:08.46CatButtsreplayer takes a music format and coughs out music
17:09.10KotCzarnyl29ah: you really dont know what are tracker music?
17:09.14L29Ahso you want a gui for your generator?
17:09.27L29AhKotCzarny: i know only basics
17:09.34L29Ahand nothing about how is it made
17:09.39KotCzarnythink of it as a recipe
17:09.39CatButtssomething like that L29Ah
17:09.47KotCzarnyand you can apply different effects
17:09.49KotCzarnybasically
17:10.10KotCzarny(to each note)
17:10.48L29Ahso, replayer takes notes and spews out pcm?
17:10.52KotCzarnyso there are 2 main parts, 1/ editor, 2/ replayer
17:10.58KotCzarnyyup
17:11.09KotCzarnytakes 'recipe' also called 'module'
17:11.34KotCzarnyever heard tunes in keygen/cracker ?
17:11.41KotCzarnyor demo?
17:11.44CatButtshttp://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/PENIS!.PNG 1st col is note, 2nd instrument, 3rd and 4th are fx
17:11.57KotCzarnynice domain
17:12.07KotCzarnyalso, unable to connect
17:12.12CatButtsouch
17:12.13L29Ahlots of them
17:12.25CatButtshmmmm
17:12.25L29Ahyet historical tracker music is usually quite limited
17:12.28CatButtslemme fix that
17:12.33KotCzarnynope, it isnt
17:12.34L29Ahand gets boring after a thousand of hours
17:12.36L29Ahas for me
17:12.43KotCzarnyits as boring as the author
17:12.54KotCzarnytrackers are just made creating music easier
17:13.13L29Ahsure, but i guess i already can know if i'm hit with a .mod or .it by hearing it
17:13.16KotCzarnymusical note sheets are very crude tracker uis
17:13.23L29Ahoh
17:13.26KotCzarnymostly, yes
17:13.31KotCzarnybut some are pro quality
17:14.08CatButtssorry, my server shat itself
17:14.11CatButtshttp://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/PENIS!.PNG
17:14.22CatButtsright, what you see here is a pattern
17:14.33CatButtsit is divided into channels
17:14.39CatButtslarge collumns
17:14.45CatButtsand rows
17:15.04KotCzarnyL29Ah: midis are trackers too, but industry standarized regarding instruments/effects used
17:15.09CatButtseach large col is divided into above mentioned smaller columns
17:15.23CatButtsah
17:15.35CatButtsthink of tracked music like midi
17:15.45L29Ahi don't remember any effects in midi
17:15.47CatButtsbut it carries its own instruments/samples
17:15.54L29Ahit's a dumb sampler afair
17:15.57KotCzarnybut mods are more free to implement replayer and effects
17:16.10KotCzarnyand no,midis can also get pretty complex/pro
17:16.23KotCzarnydepends on midi rendering endine
17:16.25KotCzarny*engine
17:18.54CatButtsrolls on his lazy cat arse instead of working on his thinghie
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17:29.00CatButtspoek L29Ah
17:29.02CatButtshttps://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_player&query=33456
17:29.10CatButtssome tracked music
17:29.20CatButtsof the 4channel variety
17:29.41KotCzarnycatbutts: my player can play http archives
17:29.47KotCzarnyie. browse/play
17:30.00CatButtshttps://api.modarchive.org/downloads.php?moduleid=33456#amigafor.mod
17:30.06CatButtsthen you get this
17:30.20KotCzarnyi think i have modarchive mirrored
17:30.35KotCzarnytens of gigs, but hey,i like cruising on random ;)
17:30.52CatButtsgonna need a bigger SD card
17:30.54CatButtshahha
17:31.23KotCzarnyyou bet
17:31.25KotCzarny;)
17:31.57KotCzarnyahm, modland,not modarchive
17:32.05CatButtshttp://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n900-2917.php hmmmmm
17:32.18CatButtsthis says 32gb internal
17:32.23CatButtsam I reading right?
17:32.35KotCzarnyyes
17:32.42KotCzarnyuser available ~28G
17:33.00KotCzarnybut you can easily put big microsd and have more
17:33.04KotCzarny128/256G
17:33.11L29Ahboring shit
17:33.17CatButts>microSD, up to 16 GB (dedicated slot)
17:33.30KotCzarnynah, dont believe the hype
17:34.56CatButtssomeday, n900, someday
17:35.28CatButtsI currently have an SE W900i
17:35.35CatButtsJ2ME can only go so far
17:36.08L29AhCatButts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZublJ5TLb8Y
17:36.45CatButtsaciiiiiiiiiiid
17:37.38CatButtshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaBBWWj5h_c
17:38.34L29Ahhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tihZs1dRqCU
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17:43.26CatButtshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-ur0YfzuU0
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20:21.14Siceloi have submitted a request for repo access ... who approves/disapproves?
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20:25.04DocScrutinizer05merlin1991 / council / me
20:25.12DocScrutinizer05the latter worst case
20:25.17CatButtslol
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20:25.55DocScrutinizer05however I don't receive according mails anymore, so I wouldn't know about any requests
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20:42.25SiceloDocScrutinizer05: does this mean you can consider my request?
20:44.15DocScrutinizer05I can consider it, but I'm not really supposed to
20:44.24DocScrutinizer05not my call
20:45.13DocScrutinizer05I'm just the fallback when maemo administrative infra (council, maintainers, whatnot else) completely falls apart
20:45.54L29Ahfacilitate the facilitation
20:46.08DocScrutinizer05please ping council, it's their job to either do it themselves, or know whom they assigned to the task and tell you about that
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20:47.21DocScrutinizer05I noticed recently all councilers got added to garage group, so maybe...
20:47.59DocScrutinizer05afaik merlin1991 is the official maintainer of repos
20:48.37DocScrutinizer05don't know if he's also in charge to approve and grant access requests
20:49.27DocScrutinizer05*technically* it's him who makes sure you have access and that access works
20:53.51Sicelookay. thanks for info. i'll wait a day or two and see what happens, then start bugging people
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21:15.09Sicelomy N900 is stuck in PC Suite Mode :-/
21:19.08L29Ahthat's the best mode
21:19.19L29Ahyou can use sshfs to move files
21:29.44DocScrutinizer05I don't need PC suite mode for that ;-) WLAN rocks
21:31.04CatButtsI need a hero
21:31.17CatButtsI'm holding out for a hero
21:31.31CatButtsTill the end of the night
21:40.24Vajbim not sure if im crazy or not but i just got me another n900 :)
21:41.01Vajbthat'll be third, but i just couldn't resist the offer on local auction site
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21:48.45SiceloVajb: i also saw a nice N900, but at the time was broke, lol. would been my third too
21:49.25CatButtsgotta stock up on dem spare parts for aging hardware, eh?
21:52.28L29Ahhave stocked five jack replacements
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22:33.29DocScrutinizer05I been at five when Neo900 started
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