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| 07:21.21 | kerio | yo is there a way to turn the backlight off |
| 07:21.27 | kerio | without locking the screen |
| 07:24.16 | kerio | aw yea echo 0 > whatever |
| 07:30.08 | kerio | ok i cant see shit help |
| 07:32.47 | mp107 | Wait a bit more. On IRC you can have a response time similarly to the forum. Maybe after one minute, one hour, one day, one week... |
| 07:34.06 | mp107 | *forums |
| 07:38.41 | bencoh | kerio: if you cant see anymore, just let it turn the screen off/on again :) |
| 07:45.53 | kerio | ye |
| 07:53.30 | KotCzarny | i think brightness applet has an option to enable 0 brightness setting |
| 07:53.42 | KotCzarny | for seeing shit, get a lamp/sun |
| 07:55.38 | kerio | KotCzarny: that's what i'm doing |
| 07:55.52 | bencoh | kerio: are you trying to save battery? |
| 07:55.53 | kerio | as i'm at the beach |
| 07:55.56 | bencoh | on a trip with no charger? |
| 07:55.58 | kerio | bencoh: yes |
| 07:56.07 | kerio | because i'm at the beach |
| 07:56.19 | bencoh | I wouldn't bring it at the beach anyway |
| 07:56.25 | bencoh | (as a matter of fact I dont) |
| 07:57.04 | kerio | y not |
| 07:57.26 | bencoh | mechanical stuff |
| 07:57.30 | kerio | how are you supposed to irc then |
| 08:01.40 | bencoh | on the beach? I just dont |
| 08:02.02 | bencoh | (it's not like I often go to the beach anyway) |
| 08:09.43 | ShadowJK | You should be able to see something on N810 and N900 in the sun with no backlight |
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| 08:11.28 | bencoh | yeah it works pretty well |
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| 08:22.55 | kerio | 272mA |
| 08:22.58 | kerio | jesus christ |
| 08:23.11 | kerio | fuck 3g |
| 08:23.22 | CatButts | lol |
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| 08:25.18 | bencoh | kerio: 2G is usually fine for IRC you know ;) |
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| 08:25.47 | kerio | i have no 2g internets |
| 08:25.56 | kerio | my operator is 3g only |
| 08:26.11 | bencoh | mine said the same but it eventually works |
| 08:26.11 | kerio | national roaming for 2g with the big ex-national operator |
| 08:26.12 | CatButts | does the N900 have option to limit to 2g? |
| 08:26.21 | bencoh | CatButts: of course :) |
| 08:26.31 | kerio | but it doesn't let you use data except by paying a lot |
| 08:26.53 | bencoh | ah, too bad. |
| 08:27.01 | bencoh | here 2g data works but with high latency |
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| 08:46.07 | mp107 | 2g works quite well event to browse some smaller pages on Opera Mobile |
| 08:46.37 | mp107 | But the browser needs a few tweaks for the best experience in such conditions |
| 08:48.48 | mp107 | f.e. increasing cache and setting expiring images to never |
| 08:49.03 | mp107 | that way it would not load images almost avery time we visit site |
| 08:49.37 | mp107 | and we can refresh them if we know (or are not sure if) they were updated |
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| 09:07.09 | drathir | sad no ucbrowser for n900... |
| 09:08.08 | CatButts | hmmmmmm |
| 09:08.23 | CatButts | what about, a j2me emu AND ucbrowser |
| 09:09.37 | Sicelo | it works .. N900 has both microemulator and phoneme .. i belive UCBrowser works on phoneme |
| 09:10.10 | CatButts | microemu is sucky, last I remember |
| 09:10.18 | CatButts | on pC |
| 09:10.21 | CatButts | *PC |
| 09:12.15 | Sicelo | it is on N900 too ... but if you really must run a j2me application ... |
| 09:17.25 | drathir | CatButts: its little overkill to emulating java... |
| 09:19.19 | CatButts | tries to remember name of one decent j2me emu |
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| 09:21.24 | CatButts | yeah, phoneme is probably the one I keep thinking of |
| 09:45.08 | KotCzarny | 2g has a big latency as a feature of requesting/freeing connecxtion slots |
| 09:45.21 | KotCzarny | running ping usually helps |
| 09:45.30 | KotCzarny | but of course consumes more power |
| 10:14.41 | ShadowJK | There's similar phenomenon on 3G too |
| 10:15.48 | kerio | 3G has very aggressive powersaving |
| 10:15.57 | kerio | you notice the status icon changing from 3G to 3.5G |
| 10:16.01 | kerio | and back |
| 10:17.10 | ShadowJK | The threshold for when to switch from 3g to 3.5g, the threshold for when to switch back, and the time intervals at which it can do a switch.. those are all operator defined |
| 10:17.49 | ShadowJK | iirc my operator had something like 5 or 10 second windows, so that means that a single line on IRC is about as "expensive" in terms of power, as data transfer at 10Mbit/s for 5 seconds |
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| 11:45.06 | kerio | lmao |
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| 12:29.41 | jonwil | hi |
| 12:29.48 | Sicelo | hi jonwil :) |
| 12:31.48 | jonwil | Seems to have gotten very quiet in the N900 community as of late... |
| 12:35.04 | jonwil | Other than the certificate update I made the other day, there hasn't been any commits to the CSSU repo in months |
| 12:46.41 | Sicelo | KotCzarny: oscp .. since you bundle libs, etc. it will uninstall very cleanly, i hope? |
| 12:47.20 | bencoh | jonwil: indeed ... |
| 12:48.49 | jonwil | I just haven't been able to get inspired to work on anything as of late |
| 12:52.56 | jonwil | All the good stuff is too hard :( |
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| 12:56.02 | Sicelo | jonwil: maybe with fmg look at the camera stuff? |
| 12:56.12 | jonwil | what camera stuff exactly? |
| 13:00.06 | Sicelo | fmg got the camera working with new kernel, but something is still missing .. or did it get done now? forgot |
| 13:01.13 | jonwil | I dont know a thing about kernel-level code |
| 13:01.17 | jonwil | or about the N900 cameras |
| 13:01.35 | jonwil | or about v4l/gstreamer/whatever other libs the cameras might be using |
| 13:03.17 | jonwil | plus I dont want to do any work that requires replacing the kernel (since my N900 is my daily driver and I use it all the time) |
| 13:06.40 | Sicelo | KotCzarny: asking because i've been also asked to consider voting for oscp ... so i might install it after all :) |
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| 13:41.21 | KotCzarny | sicelo: it's a .deb |
| 13:41.31 | KotCzarny | and it doesnt do anything unusual |
| 13:41.48 | KotCzarny | the only things left would be some ~/.oscp/ files |
| 13:41.57 | KotCzarny | konfigs etc |
| 13:42.24 | KotCzarny | and i dont bundle libs,i compile them statically into binary, so nothing will get in a way in the system |
| 13:44.18 | KotCzarny | and because of that, you wont have usual debian residue in unneeded libs on app uninstall |
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| 13:46.15 | Sicelo | okay. cool. will install maybe this evening |
| 13:46.54 | KotCzarny | keep in mind it works a bit different than system media player, which has its + and - |
| 13:47.21 | KotCzarny | but shouldnt remove your data ;) |
| 13:48.31 | Sicelo | no problem, heh. i was just concerned about rootfs space more than anything else |
| 13:48.40 | KotCzarny | nope. its in/opt |
| 13:48.43 | KotCzarny | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:48.54 | KotCzarny | and symlinked to /usr |
| 13:49.38 | Sicelo | oh my! just did a `df -h /` ... 92% use, 18.4M available |
| 13:49.59 | KotCzarny | normal situation in n900's land ;) |
| 13:50.12 | KotCzarny | check your /opt tho |
| 13:50.50 | Sicelo | i have a large /opt because i repartitioned |
| 13:50.59 | KotCzarny | also, temporary files are kept in ~/.oscp/ on n900, in case you pack your mp3 in zips or something |
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| 14:00.32 | Sicelo | recovered 4M from /var/log ... funny thing is i deleted 8M of files, yet df only shows me gaining 4M |
| 14:00.49 | KotCzarny | some might be in use? |
| 14:03.18 | Sicelo | no .. they were successfully deleted. i stopped syslog, and the other logs were from fsck. anyway, i'm not worried atm :) |
| 14:04.13 | KotCzarny | might be 'reserved for root' space |
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| 14:49.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: (funny thing) pretty normal with ubifs |
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| 15:08.29 | KotCzarny | foxx, try setting 100M on gbit switch and see if it works |
| 15:08.34 | KotCzarny | um, wrong chan |
| 15:12.15 | bencoh | it wont work on SFP ports, btw ;) |
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| 16:34.07 | Sicelo | KotCzarny: with a video, oscp doesn't display? |
| 16:37.05 | Sicelo | i've managed to freeze it somehow :-/ |
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| 18:04.30 | KotCzarny | sicelo: oscp is mainly audio player, if you want vids, enable with 'v' or v button |
| 18:04.45 | KotCzarny | as for freezing, its a bug i still have to hunt down |
| 18:05.02 | KotCzarny | also,its from extras-devel? |
| 18:05.36 | Sicelo | 0.9.7-63 |
| 18:05.47 | Sicelo | it does play well though :) |
| 18:06.30 | KotCzarny | vid play when enabled is done via gst-launch |
| 18:06.53 | KotCzarny | i mean, by gst123 (which is similar to gst-launch) |
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| 18:11.17 | KotCzarny | but if you have a bunch of youtube downloaded video clips you only want to listen without using cpu to decode vis, its a feature |
| 18:11.19 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 18:13.36 | Sicelo | ;) |
| 18:16.02 | Sicelo | by the way .. that's 0.9.7-63 is only in -devel? |
| 18:16.05 | KotCzarny | also, ishould write proper docs/manual for all the features |
| 18:16.15 | KotCzarny | sicelo, yeah, i release often |
| 18:16.33 | KotCzarny | on diablo i've promoted it to extras |
| 18:16.58 | KotCzarny | but on fremantle i haven't reached full stable quality yet |
| 18:17.08 | KotCzarny | s/on fremantle// |
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| 23:12.13 | L29Ah_ | is there a microsd producer that produces durable ones? |
| 23:12.16 | L29Ah_ | re writes |
| 23:12.54 | L29Ah_ | it seems like they all die after <50 full writes |
| 23:14.26 | L29Ah_ | that's kinda sad if you try to use them for cyclic video capture or compiling big stuff |
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