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| 00:38.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | mumbles some curses about genuine duties of council, approving garage projects being just one of them, appointing maintainers another. Then proceeds to fix his fsckdup /ignore list |
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| 05:58.30 | Maxdamantus | Look ma, no malloc: https://gist.github.com/Maxdamantus/23783a33d9ec43e8be42632566e8d1f9 |
| 05:59.37 | Maxdamantus | 10:47:38 < DocScrutinizer05> do we have a council still? |
| 05:59.40 | Maxdamantus | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5oLQVieB4U |
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| 06:44.01 | KotCzarny | he he |
| 07:01.21 | Wizzup | Maxdamantus: only alloca? ;-) |
| 07:02.05 | Maxdamantus | No. Only calls to glibc functions. |
| 07:02.09 | KotCzarny | only static mallocs on stack ;) |
| 07:02.29 | Maxdamantus | What stack? gcc -O4 inlines everything. |
| 07:02.34 | Maxdamantus | well, except for `failp`. |
| 07:02.37 | KotCzarny | and im pretty sure some glibc functions still use malloc |
| 07:02.59 | KotCzarny | maxd,thought O3 is the max? |
| 07:03.24 | Maxdamantus | Not really. |
| 07:03.44 | Maxdamantus | It has -O4 as well, but whether or not it's "the max" is difficult to say. |
| 07:03.50 | KotCzarny | Pattern not found (press RETURN) |
| 07:03.54 | KotCzarny | in manual |
| 07:03.55 | Maxdamantus | They're all just aliases for a bunch of optimisation flags. |
| 07:04.06 | KotCzarny | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:04.17 | KotCzarny | unless you have edited gcc specs on your system |
| 07:04.52 | Maxdamantus | Oh, maybe it doesn't exist then. |
| 07:04.55 | Maxdamantus | so -O3 |
| 07:05.05 | Maxdamantus | wonders how long he's been writing -O4 for. |
| 07:06.06 | Maxdamantus | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:06.33 | Maxdamantus | Seems like it could theoretically enable extra things with arbitrary numbers, dunno. |
| 07:06.43 | KotCzarny | nope |
| 07:09.25 | Maxdamantus | * toplev.c: Add flag_ip, enable by default at -O4+ (This is not set in stone, and thus, not documented). |
| 07:11.09 | KotCzarny | https://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/blob/master/gcc/opts.c#L380 |
| 07:12.36 | Maxdamantus | if ((unsigned int) opts->x_optimize > 255) opts->x_optimize = 255; |
| 07:13.08 | KotCzarny | best test,compile at O3 then at O4 andbinary compare |
| 07:13.19 | Maxdamantus | They produce the same binaries in this case. |
| 07:13.22 | KotCzarny | (drat, my spacebar is dying) |
| 07:15.02 | KotCzarny | http://cboard.cprogramming.com/c-programming/125896-gcc-o4-what-use.html#post938271 |
| 07:15.05 | KotCzarny | same output |
| 07:16.59 | KotCzarny | https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GCC_optimization#What_about_-O_levels_higher_than_3.3F |
| 07:20.19 | Maxdamantus | fwiw, the quoted code there seems to be out-of-date. |
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| 07:31.11 | Wizzup | Maxdamantus: what gcc are you using |
| 07:31.14 | Wizzup | I see no -O4 |
| 07:31.38 | Wizzup | ah, |
| 07:31.41 | Wizzup | read backlog now |
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| 07:34.42 | Maxdamantus | But yes, afaics it isn't going to have any effect. |
| 07:35.43 | Maxdamantus | (based on looking at the actual gcc source code, not some quote of a random snippet from 2008 on the Gentoo wiki) |
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| 08:19.36 | Wizzup | -O>3 is the same as -O3, yes |
| 08:19.37 | Wizzup | afk |
| 09:29.01 | enyc | Hrrrm |
| 09:29.33 | enyc | is the N900 camera application crashing (and occasionalyl creating unreadable 'unable to display image' jpgs) a known fault? |
| 09:38.36 | bencoh | anything in dmesg? (segv, oom, ....) |
| 09:41.03 | Sicelo | and maybe permissions on the DCIM directory? |
| 09:41.31 | Sicelo | i seem to remember N900 camera application being very fussy |
| 09:42.19 | KotCzarny | never had cam app crash (on stock) |
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| 09:51.12 | Maxdamantus | It sometimes crashes for me. |
| 09:51.32 | Maxdamantus | fwiw, I remember it having serious issues when the DCIM directory had lots of files in it. |
| 09:52.05 | Maxdamantus | (so I wrote a script to move them from DCIM to other directories based on their timestamps) |
| 09:52.37 | enyc | bencoh: i'll look next time it happens |
| 09:52.44 | enyc | Maxdamantus: noted, // understood |
| 09:52.57 | enyc | Maxdamantus: ext4 on sdcard DCIM/ directory ... nothing special |
| 09:55.01 | Maxdamantus | also, for additional logging you might want to run syslogd. |
| 09:58.56 | Sicelo | and set up logrotate :) |
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| 14:12.04 | enyc | Hrrm.... |
| 14:12.16 | enyc | I'm sure I've had dune(opendune??) installed on maemo ok |
| 14:12.48 | enyc | now trying to apt-git install opendune complains about uninstallable 'bzip2' package althought there seems to be bzip2 already due to busybox or similar |
| 14:13.20 | enyc | i wonder if this is down to some change e.g. maemo.nokia.com no longer working? etc |
| 14:20.39 | bencoh | dunno, do you use any mirrors? |
| 14:22.16 | enyc | err not that i knew about, but do use a cssu/thumb |
| 14:30.13 | bencoh | yeah I meant, mirrors for maemo.nokia.com |
| 14:30.21 | bencoh | cssu doesnt change that |
| 14:31.59 | enyc | hrrm, seemingcly, not, what should i change to / how ? |
| 14:32.32 | enyc | only https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ current line |
| 14:34.45 | bencoh | ~mirrors |
| 14:34.45 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, mirror is http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 or extras-devel.merlin1991.at - for fighting hashsum error, or see ~rmo-new |
| 14:35.03 | bencoh | note I have no idea whether it is really related to your error :) |
| 14:35.42 | bencoh | I dont even know if we have a "bzip2 |
| 14:35.59 | bencoh | "bzip2"* package there. maybe it's in extras-* |
| 14:36.38 | enyc | https://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#fremantle_repos_.28copy.26paste_sources.list.29 |
| 14:37.35 | enyc | (appears more upd to date) -- also -- Host maemo-archive.wedrop.it not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) |
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| 14:37.46 | enyc | bencoh: that mirrors link needs sorting, thats out of date clearly |
| 14:38.30 | bencoh | where do you see that wedrop.it? |
| 14:38.35 | bencoh | oh, wtf |
| 14:39.03 | bencoh | that's not the infobot key I was looking for :) |
| 14:39.43 | bencoh | ~mirror |
| 14:39.43 | infobot | well, mirror is http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 or extras-devel.merlin1991.at - for fighting hashsum error, or see ~rmo-new |
| 14:39.47 | bencoh | hmmm |
| 14:40.00 | bencoh | ~factinfo mirror |
| 14:40.00 | infobot | error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) |
| 14:40.00 | infobot | mirror -- it has been requested 22 times, last by bencoh, 22s ago. |
| 14:40.05 | bencoh | pff |
| 14:42.02 | bencoh | ~repos |
| 14:42.02 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, repos is "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./", or see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories, or see ~jrrepos |
| 14:42.25 | L29Ah | ~jrrepos |
| 14:42.25 | infobot | [jrrepos] http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/ |
| 14:42.33 | bencoh | what a mess :) |
| 14:49.56 | L29Ah | have lost that money money money vidya |
| 14:50.02 | L29Ah | slaps KotCzarny |
| 14:52.40 | KotCzarny | l29ah: wut. |
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| 19:04.58 | juiceme | DocScrutinizer05, hiya! |
| 19:05.06 | juiceme | sure we have council. |
| 19:06.06 | juiceme | I think the maemo access stuff and repositories is handled by merlin1991. All the posting to council list and admin list should go to him too |
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| 22:19.04 | fishbulb | I want to put my contacts messages and calendar, like "user info" onto another phone |
| 22:19.24 | fishbulb | as a backup, without backing up the entire flash |
| 22:19.33 | fishbulb | without like "cloning the phone" |
| 22:19.46 | fishbulb | is there a utility to do this? |
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| 23:59.08 | Oksana | fishbulb: Are both devices Nokia N900? |