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| 00:59.51 | Linkandzelda | whats the easiest way to check i was able to move swap to sd successfully other than pulling the back cover and see if it messes up? |
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| 01:04.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | iotop |
| 01:05.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | cat /proc/swaps |
| 01:05.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: ^^^ |
| 01:05.52 | Linkandzelda | hmm |
| 01:06.14 | Linkandzelda | its showing /dev/mmcblk1p1 with priority -1 and /dev/mmcblk0p3 with priority 0 |
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| 01:06.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | that looks pretty good |
| 01:07.12 | Linkandzelda | seems like they are both in use, though 80mb used on the emmc and 3.6mb used on microsd |
| 01:08.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | swapoff /dev/mmcblk0p3 |
| 01:09.45 | Linkandzelda | that did it, guess i should run that on startup |
| 01:09.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | alas the standard messybox swapon doesn't know priorities |
| 01:12.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | otherwise swapon -p5 /dev/mmcblk1p1 |
| 01:12.57 | Linkandzelda | i added the swapoff to a startup script, rebooting now to see the result |
| 01:14.59 | Linkandzelda | for w/e reason that didnt run as expected |
| 01:18.12 | Linkandzelda | ok it works with a sleep, thanks DocScrutinizer05 |
| 01:21.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmmms at gconftool -g /system/osso/af/mmc-swap |
| 01:26.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: less +'/swaps=`blkid' /etc/event.d/rcS-late |
| 01:27.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | less /etc/fstab : |
| 01:27.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | # This file was generated by script /etc/event.d/rcS-late |
| 01:27.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | # !!! Do not edit this file. It will be overwritten in next device startup !!! |
| 01:27.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | # If you want static /etc/fstab add genfstab="0" to file /etc/default/mount-opts-overwrite |
| 01:28.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you don't see the last line in your fstab, you should update to CSSU |
| 01:29.43 | Linkandzelda | i see the swaps in fstab |
| 01:30.39 | Linkandzelda | dont quite understand how to best edit this file at /etc/event.d/rcS-late |
| 01:31.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | you should do as suggested: echo genfstab="0" >>/etc/default/mount-opts-overwrite |
| 01:31.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | then edit the swap line in fstab |
| 01:32.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | or first have a look at /etc/default/mount-opts |
| 01:34.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | # When generating fstab add also swap partitions from SD card (if exists) |
| 01:34.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | swap_sd="0" |
| 01:34.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo swap_sd="1" >>/etc/default/mount-opts-overwrite |
| 01:36.12 | Linkandzelda | ok swap_sd was already 1 in /etc/default/mount-opts-overwrite |
| 01:36.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | hint: I didn't grow this in the palm of my hand, I started with a `grep -R swap /etc` |
| 01:36.26 | Linkandzelda | just not sure on the effects of disabling the fstab gen |
| 01:36.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | when you disable fsgen, you could edit your fstab |
| 01:37.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | you prolly don't want to do this when sd card swap is already in generated fstab, as swap_sd=1 suggests |
| 01:38.05 | Linkandzelda | i can live with the startup script to do swapoff |
| 01:38.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | please paste all lines with "swap" in your fstab |
| 01:38.55 | Linkandzelda | http://pastebin.com/kqxNfNLY |
| 01:39.21 | Linkandzelda | if i disabled fstab gen i would delete the 2nd line simply |
| 01:39.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | grunts |
| 01:39.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 01:40.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | I see an option to add sd to fstab swaps, but I don't see how to assign priorities (which prolly is useless anyway, thanks messybox), or how to remove the eMMC swapo from fstab |
| 01:40.43 | Linkandzelda | then i'll make sure to keep it updated with any SD card partition layout changes which i expect the genfstab script handled |
| 01:41.24 | Linkandzelda | presumably by altering the rcS-late script to not search on mmcblk0 |
| 01:42.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd prolly suggest you keep your current config with swapoff script, just improve it by inspecting /proc/swaps to see if a swap on SD got added, since otherwise you'd end up without any swap when you have removed your uSD |
| 01:43.28 | Linkandzelda | is priority done based on the order of swapon commands? |
| 01:44.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | sth like `grep -q mmxcblk1p1 /proc/swaps && swapoff /dev/mmcblk0p3` |
| 01:44.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess yes, though tbh I have no clue and wondered myself already |
| 01:46.13 | Linkandzelda | DocScrutinizer05: i commented out the emmc swap in fstab and disabled gen, removed my swapoff script, then restarted |
| 01:46.24 | Linkandzelda | somehow both swaps are on, fstab line still uncommented |
| 01:46.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | and? |
| 01:46.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | wow that's sad |
| 01:46.45 | Linkandzelda | so im gonna revert to how it was and just go with swapoff becuase it seems something else is doing it |
| 01:47.00 | Linkandzelda | maybe a swap app i installed or something, i dont know |
| 01:47.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's a swapon -a in rcs-late iirc |
| 01:47.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | but there's also a swapon $swap somewhere |
| 01:47.58 | Linkandzelda | in rc-late: /sbin/swapon -a || echo "Failed to enable paging partition." |
| 01:48.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly a real bug in initscripts |
| 01:48.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | swapon -a enables all swaps in fstab |
| 01:48.44 | Linkandzelda | i see |
| 01:48.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | so this would be OK |
| 01:49.10 | Linkandzelda | im doing a grep for swapon |
| 01:49.17 | Linkandzelda | in /etc |
| 01:49.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | but somewhere I found a swapon $dev or swapon §swap or sth |
| 01:50.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | grep swap /etc/init.d/rcS |
| 01:51.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's the bugger |
| 01:52.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | but yeah, just keep your initscript |
| 01:54.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | as mentioned I'd first test if a swap on uSD exists by grepping /proc/swaps before I swapoff the eMMC swap |
| 01:56.59 | Linkandzelda | i see it |
| 01:57.01 | Linkandzelda | and will do that |
| 02:00.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually rcS isn't the culprit aiui, since the swapon $swap is called in a mount_mmc() function and that function never gets called since the line where it would get called is commented out |
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| 02:09.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, I massively edited /etc/init.d/rcS so dunno maybe in yours that line isn't commented out |
| 02:12.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway rcS is worth a read |
| 02:12.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's lots of interesting stuff in there |
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| 13:30.38 | Oksanaa | is typing from Firefox OS phone; virtual keyboard is painful |
| 13:30.53 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 14:20.51 | Juest | DocScrutinizer05: perhaps i could copy and edit the start_xephyr.sh and change the X server perhaps? |
| 14:20.58 | Juest | i am not sure if it will work properly |
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| 14:35.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't know |
| 14:36.37 | Juest | :( |
| 14:38.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | varaha-space/www/people.internal/neo/daily-build/history/april-update/ipk/armv4t/xserver-kdrive-xephyr_1.3.0.0-r25_armv4t.ipk and similar files is all I can locate on my machine |
| 14:40.51 | Juest | I tried, nothing to be found really |
| 14:40.54 | Juest | but the binary itself |
| 14:40.56 | Juest | :| |
| 14:45.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, people.internal.openmoko.org isn't related to maemo at all |
| 14:45.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | also deceased |
| 14:46.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | as I said: sorry but I didn't touch xephyr since half a dozen years |
| 14:49.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | the concept is pretty cute but not nearly as convenient as a real hw platform aka N900 for testing |
| 14:50.48 | Juest | And for worse it has glitches! |
| 14:53.34 | KotCzarny | shoot the glitches till they are dead |
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| 15:54.30 | bencoh | err ... |
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| 15:54.49 | bencoh | L29Ah: ? |
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| 15:54.57 | bencoh | gah. |
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| 15:57.42 | KotCzarny | i think his connection is flaky (or tunnel) |
| 15:57.49 | KotCzarny | either way he should do something about it |
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| 16:08.06 | Juest | definitely |
| 16:08.08 | Juest | yes |
| 16:08.20 | Juest | and oksana is on her sister phone |
| 16:08.26 | Juest | which is that slow firefox os |
| 16:08.37 | Juest | geeksphone nemo i think |
| 16:08.49 | Juest | keon* |
| 16:09.29 | Juest | KotCzarny: how to kill the glitches? i am clueless :D |
| 16:10.17 | Juest | Apparently hes using ejabberd |
| 16:10.32 | Juest | perhaps its a bug |
| 16:15.20 | KotCzarny | juest: with the gun? |
| 16:15.37 | Juest | .... |
| 16:16.18 | Juest | should debug it but i am completely clueless |
| 16:16.24 | KotCzarny | http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Glitch_%28enemy%29 |
| 16:16.27 | Juest | Anyone used the fremantle sdk recently? |
| 16:17.41 | KotCzarny | i just use gcc from sdk in chroot |
| 16:21.51 | bencoh | I use sb |
| 16:21.58 | bencoh | so do a few people around here |
| 16:22.02 | bencoh | Juest: why? |
| 16:34.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | please holler when that part/join flood continues. I don't see it here since I got all those events on ignore |
| 16:35.15 | Juest | comference mode |
| 16:36.02 | Juest | bencoh: i am on the official nokia prepared lucid fremantle sdk vm |
| 16:36.24 | Juest | and xephyr maemo is 99% ok |
| 16:42.26 | Juest | i am looking forward getting the emulator work more properly |
| 16:42.48 | Juest | i cant do maemo shortcuts thanks to xephyr's grab/ungrab input combo |
| 16:43.24 | Juest | perhaps i could make the start script not use xephyr but xorg |
| 16:43.48 | bencoh | huh ? |
| 16:44.08 | Juest | the sdk comes with a xephyr "emulator" where you can use maemo itself bencoh |
| 16:44.18 | bencoh | yeah I know xephyr |
| 16:44.37 | Juest | it doesnt work very well |
| 16:44.41 | bencoh | but what is it about "using xorg instead of xephyr"? |
| 16:45.11 | bencoh | well I dont really think it was meant to be a perfect reproduction of the n900 |
| 16:45.23 | Juest | bencoh: making it use a different X server instead of xephyr because i cant use maemo shortcuts because control+shift is used to ungrab/gab mouse/keyboard |
| 16:45.34 | Juest | And it does have some bugs |
| 16:45.49 | Juest | not a full maemo and out of nowhere suddenly i cant install packages anymore |
| 16:45.56 | Juest | i dont know why |
| 16:46.09 | bencoh | cant you configure xephyr to use a different shortcut? |
| 16:46.50 | Juest | and theres a serious glitch where applying a theme causes the gui to work erratically and i cant change the theme again, that personalization ui stops working somewhat |
| 16:46.57 | Juest | bencoh: i dont know how if there any way |
| 16:47.03 | Juest | has no config(?) |
| 16:47.17 | Juest | nothing in man, nothing in docs |
| 16:47.21 | bencoh | dunno, I usually check the source when I dont know |
| 16:47.43 | bencoh | (and end up patching if I cant find what I'm looking for ;) |
| 16:48.21 | Juest | ha programming basics but doesnt know to write in any language |
| 16:48.33 | Juest | but at least i can progress with instructions :) |
| 16:48.48 | Juest | is basically a tester and compiler |
| 16:48.48 | bencoh | hmm ... then what are you using xephyr for? |
| 16:49.07 | Juest | Because the script uses Xephyr to display maemo? |
| 16:49.20 | KotCzarny | do you have n900? |
| 16:49.23 | Juest | Fremantle SDK desktop shortcut in that lucid vm |
| 16:49.28 | Juest | No |
| 16:49.35 | KotCzarny | grab 2 n900 |
| 16:49.37 | KotCzarny | done |
| 16:49.39 | Juest | im only into maemo because of oksana |
| 16:49.45 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 16:49.55 | Juest | lol? |
| 16:50.18 | Juest | ... |
| 16:50.48 | Juest | bencoh: /usr/local/bin/start_xephyr.sh installed by fremantle sdk |
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| 19:15.13 | Sicelo | oh bummer |
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| 19:17.05 | Sicelo | so X40 has an SSD with 44-pin connector. i have taken out the HDD to debootstrap debian on it via a PATA-USB adapter. the 'problem' is that the SSD has no numbering or keying for the 44pins. Any idea how to tell the correct pinout? |
| 19:17.20 | Sicelo | it's the 41W0737 |
| 19:17.51 | KotCzarny | compare with hdd |
| 19:17.57 | KotCzarny | its not symmetrical |
| 19:18.00 | KotCzarny | ie. more to one side |
| 19:18.17 | Sicelo | it is .. it fits both ways in my adapter :/ |
| 19:18.26 | KotCzarny | also, remember x40's controller/drive is powered from 3.3V |
| 19:18.32 | Sicelo | i do have an old 2.5" HDD . .that one was keyed |
| 19:19.02 | KotCzarny | as for the pinout, there should be square marker on one of the pins |
| 19:19.19 | KotCzarny | http://pc-level.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2.5ide-hard-drive.jpg |
| 19:20.09 | Sicelo | the jumper block isn't there, and pin 20 exists on this SSD :) |
| 19:20.21 | KotCzarny | http://g02.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1IPs8IFXXXXcZXXXXq6xXFXXXq/l-Kingspec-1-8-inch-44PIN-PATA-IDE-SSD-Solid-State-Disk-ssd-64GB-Hard-Drive.jpg |
| 19:20.35 | KotCzarny | as i said, its the positioning nuance |
| 19:20.40 | KotCzarny | more to one side |
| 19:21.18 | KotCzarny | http://eshop.sintech.cn/images/ST4060-logo.jpg |
| 19:21.25 | KotCzarny | see square pin hole here? |
| 19:22.50 | Sicelo | don't see it .. but i think i get the idea now :) |
| 19:23.01 | Sicelo | the 3.3V thing might be an issue then :-/ |
| 19:23.20 | Sicelo | guess i must look at TFTP instead then .. oh well |
| 19:24.00 | KotCzarny | there are special adapters for x40, with voltage adjusted |
| 19:24.16 | KotCzarny | that's why you can see 'x40' in ebay auctions |
| 19:25.12 | KotCzarny | http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-x-PCI-E-mSATA-SSD-5cm-3-3V-to-1-8-IDE-3-3V-44pin-SSD-for-IBM-X40-HDD-Adapter-/121303461664 |
| 19:25.17 | KotCzarny | for example |
| 19:25.29 | Sicelo | alright. at least i didn't force anything .. now to setup TFTP .. wondering if dnsmasq can do it (i'm already using it for my wifi network) |
| 19:25.44 | Sicelo | ah cool .. supported |
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| 23:34.48 | Oksana | hopes that rosin flux helps with soldering; zero experience with flux, nearly zero with soldering http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/321508406523 |
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