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| 08:30.21 | Juest | DocScrutinizer05: just to be clear, last time i was vague: 0) everything audio does work properly 1) telepathy sending video over Jingle works, receiving untested 2) telepathy receives skype video but crashes attempting to send (as soon camera button is clicked = "boom") 3) Attempting SIP Video over Linphone causes the call to stop working (never starts or dies if done mid-call) the service... |
| 08:30.23 | Juest | ...does properly support video i had tested pc to pc 4) she does not know if her phone is overclocked or not |
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| 09:02.33 | Sicelo | the tests (0) to (3) are N900 or Windows? |
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| 09:24.47 | Juest | sicelo: N900's Telepathy and Jitsi on Windows and Linphone for Windows |
| 09:25.27 | Juest | regrets leaving |
| 09:27.20 | KotCzarny | hotel california tune chimes quietly in ~~ |
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| 10:35.12 | Oksanaa | wonders if Nokia had any battery chargers less likely to melt in high temperatures than dt-33... To be fair, I managed to get Nokia 5230 to stop charging |
| 10:36.27 | Oksanaa | No obvious signs of damage too. Like, its charging port is not something which can be broken off (its spring-y contacts touch the motherboard, akin to trrs port) |
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| 13:12.46 | Pali | merlin1991: ping |
| 13:12.51 | Pali | CSSU testing! |
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| 13:54.27 | Pali | freemangordon: v4.7-rc4-n900 branch is on github linux-n900 tree |
| 13:54.52 | Pali | tidspbridge has some compile errors (some omap functions were removed), so I commented that code, see git commits |
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| 15:35.36 | freemangordon | Pali: ok |
| 15:36.52 | freemangordon | Pali: though, you should've merged my 4.7 branch, as it is cleaned-up |
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| 15:38.34 | freemangordon | Pali: hmm, I can;t see those commits |
| 15:38.47 | Pali | which commits? |
| 15:39.04 | freemangordon | "...so I commented that code, see git commits" |
| 15:40.02 | Pali | there is one: https://github.com/pali/linux-n900/commit/f670b8baf5b2ba698b726c4ca98fb7ae6ec11500 |
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| 15:45.06 | Pali | freemangordon, merlin1991: please look at last comment: https://github.com/community-ssu/qt-x11-maemo/pull/1 |
| 15:45.45 | freemangordon | Pali: really, you'd better take https://github.com/freemangordon/linux-n900/tree/v4.7-rc1-n900 as a base, there is too much legacy in your tree already |
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| 16:43.12 | L29Ah | okay, it seems to be a qemu-user fault after all |
| 16:43.37 | L29Ah | the fun thing is that only install-xattr seems to be affected |
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| 17:15.13 | Sicelo | Pali: what would cause the battery status indicator to never show "full"? i am on cssu-thum & replacement bme if that matters. http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-20160627-190942-N2LW3nVl.png is as hight as it gets |
| 17:16.06 | Pali | no idea |
| 17:16.57 | Sicelo | http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-20160627-191007-9acPomju.png |
| 17:17.04 | Sicelo | hmm |
| 17:17.52 | KotCzarny | sicelo, what does the cmdline tool returns? |
| 17:18.05 | KotCzarny | ahm, nvm |
| 17:18.21 | KotCzarny | might be just bad battery |
| 17:19.58 | Sicelo | i have completely different battery now, but calibration doesn't succeed |
| 17:20.27 | KotCzarny | charge cycle broken by time/temperature? |
| 17:20.35 | Sicelo | i will try again on this cycle (4th since the replacement battery) |
| 17:20.58 | Sicelo | i don't think temperature is a problem |
| 17:21.03 | KotCzarny | also i think there was a trick to charge with some load applied |
| 17:21.55 | ceene | is it normal for the alternative symbols screen not to appear if MyDocs is not mounted? |
| 17:22.59 | Sicelo | KotCzarny: that allows for "more' charge? |
| 17:23.21 | KotCzarny | i think so |
| 17:23.36 | Sicelo | ceene: you mean Fn+Ctrl? |
| 17:23.41 | ceene | yes |
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| 17:24.59 | Sicelo | ceene: never had that problem. one thing i know is that QT applications can't show that symbols screen & hwkbd mappings for them don't work |
| 17:25.04 | ceene | when i reboot it starts an fsck, as the filesystem has a directory that is broken beyond repair, so it always fscks for 5 minutes or so |
| 17:25.35 | ceene | and that screen won't appear until it has finished and is mounted |
| 17:25.51 | ceene | Sicelo: yappari was qt and symbols screen worked perfectly |
| 17:26.03 | Sicelo | no, it didn't :) |
| 17:26.08 | KotCzarny | lol |
| 17:26.11 | ceene | well, it did for me |
| 17:26.29 | Sicelo | with hwkbd open? |
| 17:26.31 | ceene | i could insert all the spanish accents, the eñe, etc |
| 17:26.34 | ceene | yes |
| 17:26.38 | KotCzarny | stock vs cssu vs some hacked os? |
| 17:26.45 | ceene | i only use the hardware keyboard |
| 17:26.47 | ceene | cssu |
| 17:26.53 | KotCzarny | which cssu |
| 17:26.55 | KotCzarny | :P |
| 17:27.04 | ceene | don't know, cssu |
| 17:27.10 | ceene | not thumb |
| 17:27.15 | KotCzarny | -stable, -testing, -thumb |
| 17:27.15 | ceene | stable i guess |
| 17:27.26 | ceene | maybe some thing from testing |
| 17:27.26 | KotCzarny | sicelo is on -testing or -devel i think |
| 17:27.36 | ceene | it should've work, then |
| 17:27.43 | Sicelo | it never worked for me even when i was still on stable |
| 17:28.02 | Sicelo | i'll try another qt application .. |
| 17:28.02 | ceene | i also have a python-qt app, pyLedger, in which it also works |
| 17:28.32 | ceene | this app of mine doesn't support utf8 text, bu that's another issue regarding me not knowing enough python |
| 17:28.47 | ceene | but it lets you use the symbols screen |
| 17:31.04 | KotCzarny | refactoring code is fun (when its finished) |
| 17:32.31 | ceene | freeing code is fun :P |
| 17:32.40 | KotCzarny | yup, working on it |
| 17:33.19 | KotCzarny | also, i have an active n800 user using oscp! |
| 17:33.23 | KotCzarny | hoorrah! |
| 17:33.28 | ceene | lolOA |
| 17:33.37 | Sicelo | weird, lol .. working on cutetube2 .. i had real problems with it on Yappari .. pity it's not there to test again |
| 17:34.53 | KotCzarny | sicelo, another issue might be weak charger |
| 17:35.11 | Sicelo | using original N900 charger |
| 17:35.56 | Sicelo | and anyway, bq27200 says 100%. I don't understand why the status icon 'disagrees' |
| 17:37.29 | Sicelo | that's why i'd be happy to get bq27200 reset completely, but no amount of battery disconnection makes a difference |
| 17:37.33 | Sicelo | :-/ |
| 17:39.37 | KotCzarny | ahm |
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| 18:14.12 | valentin | yo yo |
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| 18:29.54 | freemangordon | Pali: -rc5 is out, please, use https://github.com/freemangordon/linux-n900/tree/v4.7-rc1-n900 (git format-patch maybe) and apply on top of -rc5, instead of rebasing yet again |
| 18:31.28 | Sicelo | maemo can boot off that 4.7-rc1? |
| 18:31.58 | freemangordon | Sicelo: what?!? |
| 18:32.01 | freemangordon | ~fptf |
| 18:32.02 | infobot | rumour has it, fptf is the Fremantle Porting Task Force, see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91308 |
| 18:32.21 | Sicelo | :) |
| 18:32.55 | freemangordon | the last shot there is with 4.6-rc1, but yes, 4.7-rc1 boot as well |
| 18:33.07 | freemangordon | *boots |
| 18:33.46 | Sicelo | i saw elinux page was updated today .. what is the exact situation with camera - it works? or not? |
| 18:33.50 | freemangordon | Pali: or, if you don;t have time, I'll push 4.7-rc5 |
| 18:33.59 | freemangordon | Sicelo: well, it is tricky :) |
| 18:34.11 | freemangordon | cameras work, but... |
| 18:35.18 | freemangordon | Sicelo: if you have time and will http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-media/msg99789.html |
| 18:35.20 | freemangordon | :) |
| 18:35.59 | Sicelo | i think you left out something far more important |
| 18:36.05 | Sicelo | "know-how" :p |
| 18:36.31 | Sicelo | here on IRC one can talk and appear to be an expert, lol .. fact is - i know nothing really |
| 18:36.42 | freemangordon | Pali: or, if you wish I can prepare rc5 for you to pull it from my tree on github? |
| 18:37.31 | Sicelo | i want to build kernel again .. only did it once, some years ago (before DT times). what do i need? |
| 18:37.42 | KotCzarny | gcc |
| 18:37.44 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 18:37.49 | Sicelo | :) |
| 18:39.24 | ceene | i've pushed something on github |
| 18:39.34 | ceene | using buildroot |
| 18:39.38 | Sicelo | anyone wishes to share an image of their working SB? i have mine, but there might be an issue or two judging from my attempt to build confclerk few days ago |
| 18:39.59 | ceene | you can compile without bothering with all the cross compilers suite and all that |
| 18:40.32 | Sicelo | ceene: really? i can produce N900 kernel directly from my Debian amd64? :-/ |
| 18:40.39 | ceene | how can i make an image for you? just taring /scratchbox dir is enough? |
| 18:40.41 | ceene | yes |
| 18:40.49 | ceene | let me find that link |
| 18:41.35 | Sicelo | ceene: that would be awesome yes (SB .. ). i had set mine up as a virtualbox ose VM |
| 18:42.49 | ceene | https://github.com/agamez/buildroot-N900 |
| 18:43.32 | freemangordon | ceene: just taring /scratchbox is not enough, there are some bindmounts and whatnot |
| 18:44.21 | ceene | that is based on buildroot-submodule https://github.com/Openwide-Ingenierie/buildroot-submodule which in turn is just a wrapper around buidroot to ease custom code integration |
| 18:44.49 | freemangordon | ceene: does that actually work? what does it build? |
| 18:44.51 | ceene | freemangordon: is there an easy way to make a portable version of my scratchbox installation then? |
| 18:45.02 | freemangordon | VM? |
| 18:45.29 | ceene | freemangordon: it builds a kernel and very small rootfs which can be booted with flashe |
| 18:45.44 | ceene | yeah, but that would mean a new installation |
| 18:46.01 | ceene | i can do that, though, it's not a bad idea in any case |
| 18:46.28 | ceene | but i'd like to just share my current install if it's possible |
| 18:46.41 | freemangordon | but why do you need to share your SB? |
| 18:46.45 | Sicelo | guess i shouldn't be lazy too, haha .. just redo the whole thing. |
| 18:46.52 | ceene | don't know, so Sicelo can compile things |
| 18:46.58 | ceene | ask him :P |
| 18:47.07 | freemangordon | ceene: will it run in my SB? |
| 18:47.12 | freemangordon | is it supposed to? |
| 18:47.17 | ceene | my buildroot thing? |
| 18:47.19 | ceene | no |
| 18:47.22 | Sicelo | lazy approach to compile for N900 :) |
| 18:47.28 | ceene | that runs on any linux system |
| 18:47.33 | freemangordon | ah, ok |
| 18:47.36 | ceene | debian, gentoo or whatever |
| 18:48.06 | freemangordon | ceene: so, if I clone the repo in my ubuntu, it will build a small rootfs image? |
| 18:48.15 | freemangordon | I can flash on the device? |
| 18:48.18 | ceene | buildroot is a pretty cool thing https://buildroot.org |
| 18:48.24 | ceene | basically, yes |
| 18:48.33 | freemangordon | hmm, cool |
| 18:48.33 | ceene | well, i haven't flashed it myself |
| 18:48.43 | freemangordon | what are your plans on that? |
| 18:48.47 | ceene | so you may need to change some settings |
| 18:49.08 | ceene | i don't have a clear plan, to be honest |
| 18:49.17 | freemangordon | I mean - do you plan to make a full blown maemo? |
| 18:49.29 | freemangordon | or example |
| 18:49.32 | freemangordon | *for |
| 18:50.06 | ceene | my idea was to make it be more of a kind of reference than a useful thing in itself |
| 18:50.22 | Sicelo | i'll use that for debian :) |
| 18:50.24 | ceene | documenting little by little what thins i face (See Notes file) |
| 18:50.57 | ceene | there a few notes there that i've gathered from conversations here, links, etc |
| 18:51.08 | Sicelo | scratchbox install wiki still valid? |
| 18:51.11 | freemangordon | I see some IRC logs :) |
| 18:51.20 | freemangordon | Sicelo: should e, more or less |
| 18:52.04 | freemangordon | Sicelo: beware, SB gcc4.7 segfaults on kernel 4.2 :( |
| 18:52.23 | ceene | i like using buildroot for read only filesystems |
| 18:52.43 | ceene | you can choose among a vast list of packages to install |
| 18:52.45 | Sicelo | is still on ancient kernels (the beauty of running debian, lol) |
| 18:53.22 | ceene | so it's pretty valid for building a base distro, without any specific support for later installation of applications |
| 18:53.26 | freemangordon | well, I am on 3.13 here :p |
| 18:53.36 | ceene | although among those available packages there is ipkg, opkg |
| 18:53.40 | Sicelo | Linux whitehouse 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.81-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 18:54.38 | freemangordon | ubuntu 14.04 here. I upgraded to 4.2, but it resulted in SB thumb target not working, so I had to revert |
| 18:56.59 | Sicelo | let me build openvpn (with some xor patches, don't even know why there are needed) ... will let you guys know what problems i face, and maybe you'll help me solve the real issue with my current SB |
| 18:57.44 | Sicelo | i will be away from my home pc for a week. i don't have public IP on it, and can't adjust any ports. i have root on two servers belonging to friends, and can install stuff as i need. so what i want is to be able to occassionally connect back to my home pc. |
| 18:57.59 | Sicelo | and also access my local LAN (which has other goodies) |
| 18:58.02 | KotCzarny | make a reverse ssh tunnel |
| 18:58.09 | Sicelo | i guess VPN is the best way? |
| 18:58.09 | KotCzarny | (simplest) |
| 18:58.19 | KotCzarny | vpn would work too if done correctly |
| 18:58.45 | Sicelo | i seem to think ssh tunnel will not make it too easy for me to interact with the LAN? |
| 18:59.02 | KotCzarny | think of ssh tunnel as a tcp port forward |
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| 18:59.20 | KotCzarny | udp wont work without tricks |
| 18:59.36 | ceene | yep, you'd have to set up individual ports for each service |
| 18:59.43 | ceene | in that case a vpn is gest |
| 18:59.49 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 18:59.53 | ceene | but openvpn is apt-gettable on maemo |
| 18:59.58 | ceene | s/gest/best/ |
| 19:00.06 | KotCzarny | ssh is good for quick solution |
| 19:00.14 | KotCzarny | vpn requires a bit more fiddling |
| 19:00.20 | KotCzarny | easy enough though |
| 19:00.26 | Sicelo | except the friend who already has openvpn is running it with some xor patches .. (think china - great firewall) |
| 19:01.29 | Sicelo | the other server doesn't have openvpn running. i could install it, but would have to first discuess, etc. haha .. so china is easier as i already have everything in place server side |
| 19:02.12 | KotCzarny | vpn is nice in a way you will feel as if you were at home |
| 19:02.29 | KotCzarny | but as i said, dont forget to harden it a bit |
| 19:03.06 | Sicelo | it is hard already (for the chinese friend. just annoying that i have to recompile for n900) |
| 19:03.28 | KotCzarny | because by default it uses quite weak cryptos/algos |
| 19:03.47 | KotCzarny | also i think openssl on fremantle is buggy |
| 19:05.25 | Sicelo | i am afraid of that, yes. will see what happens when i build and test :) |
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| 20:01.10 | bencoh | freemangordon: how is thumb target in SB related to host being linux-4.2 vs 3.x? :/ |
| 20:01.43 | bencoh | any idea why gcc segfaults? |
| 20:04.44 | Sicelo | building openvpn .. http://paste.debian.net/764743/ .. it's an easy issue, but what i'm asking myself is - does it mean my SB is outdated? that is building from N900 sources |
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| 20:15.11 | Sicelo | that problem fixed now |
| 20:27.24 | Sicelo | i once asked a question here ... i once built a deb and it ended up with all the source inside itself, haha .. any idea what i could have done wrong? |
| 20:56.18 | ceene | you should nclude a -I.git parameter |
| 20:56.27 | ceene | to Ignore that pattern |
| 20:57.27 | ceene | time to sleep, if hot night allows it |
| 20:57.46 | Sicelo | one last q. before you go :) |
| 20:57.59 | Sicelo | what do you use to build a deb? checkinstall? |
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| 21:18.12 | L29Ah | is there a vpn that can deal with tcp over tcp in a good way? |
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| 22:11.58 | bencoh | I dont think there is a "good way" :) |
| 22:13.04 | bencoh | L29Ah: best you can do is avoid the double tcp .... think ssh forwarding/socks proxying (ssh -D) for instance |
| 22:13.23 | L29Ah | i can't avoid it if a tcp tunnel is my sole way of accessing the internets |
| 22:14.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | headdesks |
| 22:20.43 | kerio | tcp over tcp would refer to network interface tunneling |
| 22:20.53 | kerio | with ssh |
| 22:20.59 | kerio | ssh forwarding is typically data-over-tcp, which is fine |
| 22:23.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | chmod -R xy:xy ~xy/.* |
| 22:23.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | even does -h :-o |
| 22:23.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | FFS |
| 22:24.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | headdesks some more |
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