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| 05:27.25 | Vajb | ShadowJK: thx for the hint. That's what i have done, but thought to ask if it's normal. |
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| 06:07.08 | azkay | Yooo. Anyone know if I could swap the n900 battery cell with a different cell? Keeping the original protection PCB from the BL-5J? |
| 06:07.29 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 06:07.38 | KotCzarny | its just li-ion |
| 06:09.41 | azkay | Awesome' Because I'd just wired up a 2610 3.7v up to the +/- leaving out the BME pin and the phone keeps turning itself off. So I'm guessing keeping the whole PCB and soldering that to the new cell instead of using the new batteries board will be the way to go. Just wasn't sure if it was coded to only 1350mAh or something (I know nothing about protection ciruits :P) |
| 06:09.54 | KotCzarny | some people wired 18650 |
| 06:10.04 | KotCzarny | you can find them on tmo |
| 06:10.22 | azkay | Forgot about that thread, I'll check it out now' |
| 06:11.12 | azkay | Thanks :) |
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| 06:33.58 | KotCzarny | azkay: you've probably found this already but: http://imgur.com/a/B7uZ3 |
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| 06:44.37 | azkay | Yep |
| 06:44.52 | azkay | Wonder if my soldering connection is just really dodgy |
| 06:44.57 | azkay | or if the pcb lowers the voltage |
| 06:45.18 | azkay | at the cell its 3.95v and at output terminals its 3.3v |
| 06:45.53 | KotCzarny | quite a drop |
| 06:46.41 | azkay | ill resolder it |
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| 06:53.32 | azkay | not changing. Probably broke something, lol. Boots up and says battery is near full. I'll use it a bit and see how accurate it is |
| 06:53.54 | KotCzarny | doesnt bmi return voltage too? |
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| 06:54.27 | KotCzarny | s/bmi/bme/ |
| 07:00.25 | azkay | ill check when I finish putting the battery in |
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| 07:10.08 | azkay | K, I'm dumb. How do I do that? |
| 07:10.31 | KotCzarny | you know the bq27200.sh ? |
| 07:10.34 | KotCzarny | ~bq |
| 07:10.38 | KotCzarny | ~ping |
| 07:10.39 | infobot | 1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss |
| 07:10.43 | KotCzarny | ~bq27200 |
| 07:10.43 | infobot | i guess bq27k-detail is http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/bq27k-detail2, or ~bq27 |
| 07:10.50 | KotCzarny | ~bq27 |
| 07:10.50 | infobot | bq27 is probably http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/ bq27*, or http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/ |
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| 07:33.32 | azkay | Thanks, I'll check that out :) |
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| 07:41.31 | azkay | 0x09 - 0x08: 3860 VOLT Reported Voltage High - Low Byte mV |
| 07:41.38 | azkay | 3.86v, seems about right |
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| 07:47.08 | azkay | Now to figure out how to get the battery meter thing to show the real capacity and not the old batteries 1277mAh |
| 07:48.41 | KotCzarny | just cycle it 3-4 times, no other way |
| 07:48.50 | KotCzarny | ~listkeys battery |
| 07:49.03 | KotCzarny | ~listkeys calibration |
| 07:49.12 | KotCzarny | ~bq27k-calibration |
| 07:49.12 | infobot | bq27k-calibration is probably http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1247595#post1247595 |
| 07:51.55 | azkay | My hero :) I'll report back when that's done |
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| 08:13.24 | Oksana | Question : how different is GTK 2.14.7 on Maemo from 2.24.30 on gnome website? |
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| 08:17.16 | bencoh | "a lot" iirc |
| 08:17.55 | bencoh | API changed quite a bit over time, especially at some major release |
| 08:18.01 | bencoh | (2.18? don't remember well) |
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| 11:09.27 | Sicelo | ~jr-tools |
| 11:09.27 | infobot | i heard jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
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| 17:43.53 | nwolf900 | hey guys, is there a MeeGo channel also? I'm looking for pieces of quality software for a piece of N9. someone pls, let me know if I should even waste time on this.. thank you! |
| 17:47.59 | kerio | afaik the n9 community is even deader than the n900 one |
| 17:50.21 | KotCzarny | n900 iz not ded |
| 17:52.49 | xelo | kerio: have a look at #harmattan as written in this channels topic ;) |
| 17:52.58 | kerio | KotCzarny: pls |
| 17:53.02 | kerio | xelo: pls |
| 17:53.19 | KotCzarny | n900 > any other phone |
| 17:54.00 | xelo | as a software engineer: what exactly is "quality software" |
| 17:54.13 | KotCzarny | xelo: stable and useful |
| 17:56.45 | xelo | and what are pieces of quality software? |
| 17:56.58 | KotCzarny | oscp, of course! ;) |
| 17:57.28 | KotCzarny | as for maemo, depends on user |
| 17:59.27 | xelo | afk... |
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| 20:12.14 | nwolf900 | xelo: something to help me not to throw the whole device away |
| 20:41.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | try openmode and make a hacking device from it |
| 20:44.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | but then, I dunno (and can't check anymore) if even openmode could still get enabled, since iirc the device tries to install several packages when you enable the err "developer mode" or whatever it's called. And I guess with Nokia servers missing, not even that will work anymore |
| 20:47.56 | Sicelo | the packages are mirrored :) you can still go developer mode |
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| 21:15.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | oooh good. thought you can't install them when the URL isn't correct |
| 21:16.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | but probably the URL isn't that security critical and could get forged if needed. The package signatures should still be intact even on mirrors |
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| 21:22.04 | sixwheeledbeast | any one heard of emoji? |
| 21:24.57 | sixwheeledbeast | I have been living under a rock apparently |
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| 21:30.51 | Vajb | u mean those moving smileys? |
| 21:31.54 | sixwheeledbeast | Well yeah that's what i am told |
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| 21:35.38 | Vajb | ah, the stuff u could learn in facebook ;) |
| 21:51.17 | kerio | no, emojis don't move |
| 21:53.33 | sixwheeledbeast | Well I found out that N900 cannot understand them and silently drops the whole SMS |
| 21:54.38 | sixwheeledbeast | I never heard of them until diagnosing missing messages. |
| 21:54.40 | Vajb | sixwheeledbeast: actually i've received them as mms. |
| 21:56.06 | kerio | those are not emojis |
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| 21:56.16 | kerio | emojis are unicode characters |
| 21:57.52 | sixwheeledbeast | yep that's what I have just read. I have also just come across a patch for the same issue on Harmattan. https://github.com/harmattan/emojifix |
| 22:00.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | huh? non-standard code SMS get silently dropped on N900? |
| 22:01.29 | sixwheeledbeast | It would appear this patched version of libsms-utils works on N900. |
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| 22:02.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems in a need to dig up his old Nokia 2110 |
| 22:04.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | while It wasn't ingerently capable to send non-ascii SMS, you could copy/insert SMS snippets that had those non-ascii chars (which immediately halves the number of available chars ber SMS) |
| 22:04.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | per* |
| 22:05.13 | x-system | Hello. I have tried improve my emmc whith fsck, but it filed. I in backupmenu export mydoc(27gb) to linuxpc (ubuntu). |
| 22:05.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | plus it displayed virtually all, even the most bizarre, fontsets/codepages |
| 22:05.51 | x-system | Now I also have trubles with backupmenu. |
| 22:07.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | x-system: you probably will need to share (and also inquire and follow) way better / more detailed info, when we shall help you |
| 22:08.40 | x-system | okay |
| 22:10.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | e.g. a session log of your fsck would be the minimum for us to check what happened. Rather you should probably have done that fsck "interactively" in here, so we could have helped with it |
| 22:11.04 | x-system | Ok, not problem. 1 sec |
| 22:11.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway now when you can't even get into BootMenu menu anymore, your only options are rescueOS and/or flashing |
| 22:12.10 | x-system | I can get into BootMenu. |
| 22:12.51 | x-system | Now I rebooted my n9000 |
| 22:12.54 | x-system | *n900 |
| 22:14.11 | sixwheeledbeast | I have no care to use emoji, but silently dropping SMS because it contains one is annoying. |
| 22:14.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't yet buy that |
| 22:14.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | but... might be possible |
| 22:16.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | it sucks the handler stack is mostly closed |
| 22:16.24 | x-system | <DocScrutinizer05> I have connect n900 with ubuntu. sudo file -s /dev/sdb2 /dev/sdb2: Linux rev 1.0 ext3 filesystem data, UUID=0725c463-783b-40a1-89f0-9e3b849077fb (needs journal recovery) (large files) |
| 22:17.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | ugh what? journal? |
| 22:17.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | no journal on VFAT |
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| 22:17.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | MyDocs is VFAT not ext3 |
| 22:17.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless somebody messes with it |
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| 22:20.39 | x-system | DocScrutinizer05, sory, I have problem with irc web chat) Can you send me last mesage? |
| 22:20.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | MyDocs is VFAT not ext3 |
| 22:21.24 | x-system | d |
| 22:22.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | I dunno ubuntu but I honestly hope /dev/sdb is not one of your local harddrives |
| 22:22.21 | x-system | d |
| 22:23.09 | x-system | sdb1 - mkdosfs - mydocs, sdb3: swap , sdb2 - ext3 |
| 22:23.29 | x-system | mydocs is not ext3) |
| 22:24.20 | x-system | Now I shuld umount sdb2 and run fsck? |
| 22:24.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | why? |
| 22:24.45 | x-system | what why? |
| 22:24.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | didn't you say your problem was with MyDocs? |
| 22:27.11 | x-system | I have problem whith backup. I can't do backup from backupmenu, because: Error: cannot mount eMMC. Try using FSCK mode and see if that fixed it. |
| 22:27.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | is that the *only* problem you have? |
| 22:28.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | also, *WHICH* backup you're trying in BM when you get that error? |
| 22:28.43 | x-system | I dont understand you) |
| 22:29.39 | x-system | I dont know why bm write me error with emmc |
| 22:30.23 | x-system | I tryid improve it with fsck, but it fail |
| 22:30.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | you don't provide the needed info |
| 22:31.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't know what to answer |
| 22:31.21 | x-system | hm.. What information you want? |
| 22:33.19 | x-system | I can now run fsck and copy logs in chat |
| 22:34.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~pastebin |
| 22:34.57 | infobot | A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few: http://www.pastebin.com, http://pastebin.ca, http://channels.debian.net/paste, http://paste.lisp.org, http://bin.cakephp.org/; or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude. |
| 22:35.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | but when your only problem is a error BM throws, then it's probably wiser to not do any fsck and first find out what's wrong with BM |
| 22:37.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | BM can do backups of NAND root file system and of the 2GB parition at /home resp /opt |
| 22:37.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | for which of both options you get that error? |
| 22:38.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | and can you boot into maemo and use your device normally? |
| 22:39.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | since NAND is ubifs, I assume you get the error when trying to backup /home, since that is ext3 |
| 22:39.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | and only ext3 can get fsck'ed, ubifs can't |
| 22:41.16 | x-system | I do backup RootFS and OptFS. I can boot into maemo and use devace normally. |
| 22:41.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | then we need to check why BM says it can't mount OptFS aka /home |
| 22:42.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | first: check if /home is OK in running maemo system: check (and pastebin) the output of "mount" |
| 22:43.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/43090433 |
| 22:44.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | particularly the line >>/dev/mmcblk0p2 on /home type ext3 (noatime,nodiratime,errors=continue,commit=1,data=writeback)<< |
| 22:47.45 | x-system | Ok |
| 22:49.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's pretty unusual that your device works flawlessly when BM can't mount the OptFS |
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| 23:18.39 | x-system | Sory. I have some lag with my pc))) http://pastebin.com/HjYMgu17 |
| 23:18.47 | x-system | it log mount |
| 23:18.52 | x-system | on n900 |
| 23:25.16 | x-system | Ok, I go to sleep =) |
| 23:32.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, the mounts look ok |
| 23:34.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | though NO! what the heck is >>/dev/mmcblk0p2 on /usr/lib/python2.5 type ext3<<?! |
| 23:35.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not too surprised when this causes all sorts of weird bugs |
| 23:36.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | shouldn't all those python mounts be type=bind? |
| 23:37.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | see >>/opt/pymaemo/usr/lib/python2.5 on /usr/lib/python2.5 type bind (bind)<< |
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| 23:42.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | also compare my >>/home/opt on /opt type none (bind)<< vs x-system's >>/dev/mmcblk0p2 on /opt type ext3 (rw,noatime,nodiratime,errors=continue,commit=1,data=writeback)<< |
| 23:45.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/14504857 |
| 23:51.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh! what he pasted is cat /proc/mounts not the output of mount(8) |
| 23:56.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | not exactly but almost. And not even `busybox mount` does that |