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| 12:55.47 | ceene | hi |
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| 13:04.02 | Sicelo | hi ceene |
| 13:05.20 | ceene | today is the day i post about the death of yappari :/ |
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| 13:06.17 | Sicelo | okay |
| 13:06.27 | Sicelo | so it really looks bad? |
| 13:06.36 | ceene | yep |
| 13:06.39 | ceene | i don't know what else to do |
| 13:06.46 | ceene | i register |
| 13:06.48 | ceene | don't use it |
| 13:06.51 | ceene | one week later |
| 13:06.53 | ceene | i'm banned |
| 13:07.01 | ceene | same thing is happening to people using yowsup |
| 13:07.26 | ceene | i'll still be looking at yowsup development, in case they are able to find the cause of it |
| 13:07.56 | ceene | but i haven't advanced at all in several weeks now, i've got banned 5 or 6 different numbers, i've lost the count of it |
| 13:09.15 | Sicelo | it is understandable :) |
| 13:09.34 | Sicelo | i've also been following yowsup, and noticed lots of tickets going on the last few days |
| 13:26.02 | bencoh | ceene: :'( |
| 13:26.38 | ceene | sorry :( |
| 13:28.33 | ceene | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1507013#post1507013 |
| 13:30.57 | bencoh | ceene: you dont have to say sorry (and I'm not a yappari user anyway) but still it's sad that it eventually came to that end |
| 13:31.37 | bencoh | that'll probably make a lot of people move to android phones ... |
| 13:32.33 | ceene | yep |
| 13:34.07 | bencoh | I hope that the yowsup devs will eventually find something, but ... |
| 13:34.27 | ceene | i thought they were at a better position than me, as they implemented WA16 while I was stuck with WA15 |
| 13:34.47 | Wizzup | I don't see many people moving to android solely for whatsapp. |
| 13:34.50 | ceene | yet their latest bugs reported are exactly the same problems as i have |
| 13:34.58 | Wizzup | I know quite some people using a n900, and none of them use whatsapp |
| 13:35.01 | Wizzup | me included |
| 13:35.07 | bencoh | Wizzup: me included as well |
| 13:35.26 | ceene | not only am I getting banned, i still couldn't talk to anyone with encryption enabled, wich as of today is almost 100% |
| 13:35.50 | ceene | i won't stop using my n900, but i'll probably be buying an android phone |
| 13:36.32 | bencoh | Wizzup: staying away from whatsapp *does* make social networking harder |
| 13:36.44 | bencoh | I dont like that either, and still dont use it, but I can see it clearly |
| 13:37.03 | bencoh | "I'll send that to you via whatsapp" "err, I dont have it" "oh, you dont? ..." |
| 13:37.15 | ceene | it's also very country specific |
| 13:37.16 | bencoh | and you basically miss all the group messaging |
| 13:37.21 | ceene | here in spain, nobody uses anything else |
| 13:37.23 | bencoh | ceene: indeed |
| 13:37.38 | bencoh | it was (a bit) less visible in france |
| 13:39.35 | bencoh | add to that the fact that I/we dont use facebook either, and ... |
| 13:40.17 | ceene | yep |
| 13:40.22 | ceene | we're the antisocial ones :) |
| 13:40.22 | Wizzup | bencoh: most people in my social network have sms/phone/email/irc |
| 13:40.30 | Wizzup | It's at least one of those |
| 13:40.33 | Wizzup | good enough for me |
| 13:40.38 | bencoh | yeah they can sms as well |
| 13:40.51 | Wizzup | unrelated note: |
| 13:41.04 | Wizzup | also managed to make ofono work on this USB HSO modem I have |
| 13:41.09 | bencoh | there *is* at least one communication channel, it's just not the one people use, especially for group stuff |
| 13:41.14 | bencoh | woohoo |
| 13:41.17 | Wizzup | now I need to figure out how to use the n900 modem over usb again |
| 13:41.30 | Wizzup | the usb hso modem was already supposed by ofono, and it's not n900 specific |
| 13:41.37 | bencoh | Wizzup: does your n900 modem work? |
| 13:41.39 | Wizzup | just happy it's pretty much the same as the n900 modem at this point |
| 13:41.41 | Wizzup | data, yes |
| 13:41.45 | Wizzup | voice, perhaps |
| 13:41.45 | bencoh | because the usb tethering part is pretty simple |
| 13:41.51 | bencoh | iptables -t nat and there you go |
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| 13:41.55 | Wizzup | I didn't mean with iptables |
| 13:41.59 | Wizzup | I meant actually forwarding the modem |
| 13:42.03 | Wizzup | so I'd run ofono on my laptop |
| 13:42.05 | bencoh | ah |
| 13:42.15 | bencoh | didn't know ofono actually had support for that |
| 13:42.24 | Wizzup | I'm going to see if I can make a blog post on the n900/gentoo setup I have atm |
| 13:42.28 | Wizzup | someone asked, l29ah or so |
| 13:42.37 | Wizzup | bencoh: I think it does |
| 13:42.51 | Wizzup | https://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/Ofono |
| 13:42.57 | Wizzup | https://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/Ofono#Using_oFono_in_Pass_thru_mode |
| 13:48.52 | bencoh | hmmm |
| 13:48.52 | ceene | https://www.bq.com/es/aquaris-a4-5 |
| 13:48.56 | ceene | i'm thinking about this thing |
| 13:49.27 | ceene | it's an Android One, so at least it should keep getting updates from google |
| 13:50.55 | ceene | don't know if i'll be able to use a thing without a keyboard |
| 13:51.07 | Wizzup | doesn't care about android |
| 13:51.23 | ceene | i'm quite clumsy with my fat thumbs :D |
| 13:56.58 | bencoh | ceene: I have thin fingers, and yet... |
| 13:57.44 | ceene | http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/20pcs-bluetooth-keyboard-case-for-samsung/198734766.html |
| 13:57.48 | ceene | i believe this thing could be usable |
| 13:58.16 | ceene | the back side gets attached permanently to the phone |
| 13:58.22 | ceene | and the keyboard is fixed with magnets |
| 13:58.25 | ceene | similar to the jolla |
| 13:58.51 | ceene | so maybe a strip magnet attached to the back of any other phone can get it fixed |
| 13:59.03 | ceene | and be made compatible with other phones, not only samsung's |
| 13:59.21 | joga | seemed to me the jolla keyb got detached pretty easily |
| 13:59.33 | joga | resulting in repeated keystrokes etc |
| 13:59.44 | ceene | well, this is bluetooth |
| 14:00.08 | ceene | so attachment is just needed to keep it geometrically useful, so you can keep the keyboard and the phone on the hand at once |
| 14:00.14 | joga | I guess |
| 14:00.25 | joga | just the hassle of recharging the keyboard separately |
| 14:00.32 | ceene | http://simpledevices.blogspot.com.es/2015/06/turning-samsung-galaxy-note-4-sm-n910f.html |
| 14:00.42 | ceene | yes, though they're supposed to last several weeks (!) |
| 14:01.40 | ceene | http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XJw-9lWo-Nw/VYai5vkN_HI/AAAAAAAAAUs/GwlWjrqpfDE/s1600/01102009035.jpg |
| 14:01.43 | ceene | lol |
| 14:01.44 | ceene | the n900 is tiny |
| 14:01.47 | joga | heh |
| 14:01.50 | joga | it's snug! |
| 14:01.55 | ceene | or the samsung thingy is like a din a4 |
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| 14:25.21 | Sicelo | http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35639549 |
| 14:25.22 | Sicelo | :p |
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| 16:23.26 | ceene | that's scary |
| 16:25.12 | Sicelo | yep. very much |
| 16:30.30 | ceene | i was thinking about buying unoe phone of the Android One programm |
| 16:30.36 | ceene | i think it shall be as vanilla as it gets |
| 16:30.58 | ceene | so probably drivers are easily available so cyanogen, replicant etc are easier to port and probably work outside the box |
| 16:49.34 | Sicelo | how much does that cost? |
| 16:50.12 | ceene | 160 euros |
| 16:52.27 | Sicelo | okay |
| 16:52.51 | ceene | it only sells on spain and portugal, though |
| 16:52.59 | ceene | i don't think you could buy one of this directly |
| 16:54.56 | Sicelo | no money for it either :p |
| 16:55.03 | Sicelo | but the price sounds good |
| 16:55.34 | ceene | yeah, bq has rightfully cheap phones with a decent quality |
| 16:56.04 | ceene | it's a company that originated at my university, so for me that's a sentimental plus also :D |
| 17:09.09 | Sicelo | let me take a shower for now |
| 17:10.07 | ceene | you don't need to ask me permission for that :P |
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| 17:43.58 | ceene | good, telegram-qt is actively maintained |
| 17:44.23 | ceene | and it's still compiling on scratchbox, with my patches |
| 17:46.04 | ceene | this task is also quite big |
| 17:46.13 | ceene | adapting all yappari interface to this new one |
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| 17:54.19 | ceene | KotCzarny: you've still got to upload oscp source code somewhere... |
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| 17:55.33 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 17:56.02 | ceene | now that i've released myself from the burden of whatsapp i can spend all my free time pestering you |
| 17:56.05 | KotCzarny | i just came back from the weekend time near the lake |
| 17:56.25 | ceene | cool! |
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| 17:58.09 | KotCzarny | and i will have time for it this week |
| 17:58.43 | KotCzarny | so dont hold back, plan is that ill try to fix song ending algo, then i will put it somewhere |
| 17:59.16 | ceene | great :) |
| 17:59.30 | ceene | it's been a while since i lasted used oscp, to be honest |
| 17:59.40 | ceene | i got it installed in a x86 little machine |
| 17:59.57 | ceene | to stream through wireless headpones, while controlling it from the n900 |
| 18:00.43 | KotCzarny | get yourself some allwinner box for the audio server task |
| 18:00.56 | KotCzarny | (1-2W power envelope) |
| 18:01.18 | ceene | no need to, this box i have is always on |
| 18:01.22 | ceene | it's my torrenting machine |
| 18:01.27 | ceene | connected directly to the tv |
| 18:01.32 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 18:01.51 | KotCzarny | a20 boards have real sata too |
| 18:01.55 | KotCzarny | and hdmi out |
| 18:02.25 | ceene | bluetooth and wifi? |
| 18:02.31 | KotCzarny | is trying to infect ceene with little boxes wirii |
| 18:02.35 | ceene | :) |
| 18:02.41 | ceene | i don't want any more boxes |
| 18:03.00 | KotCzarny | wifi yes (though crappy usyally), and you can always put usb dongle |
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| 18:03.23 | ceene | i don't want to tinker with anything at this moment, to be honest |
| 18:03.32 | ceene | i'm tired of knowing how everything works |
| 18:03.41 | ceene | i for once want to just use the damn things as normal people do |
| 18:03.52 | KotCzarny | also, you can compile n900's binaries in chroot without qemu |
| 18:03.58 | ceene | work doesn't help either, as in the end all i do at work is tinkering with random shit |
| 18:04.04 | ceene | sometimes it's fun, sometimes it's frustrating |
| 18:04.08 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 18:04.11 | ceene | i've got quite a week ahead of me |
| 18:04.30 | ceene | i've got to retake a vhdl firmware i wrote a year ago and make it work on a new fpga and platform |
| 18:04.34 | ceene | i hate it all right now |
| 18:04.37 | ceene | i need a long vacation |
| 18:05.31 | KotCzarny | i bet you wouldnt last a week without the toys |
| 18:05.53 | ceene | i do, on august |
| 18:06.01 | ceene | i spend the whole month at the beach |
| 18:06.11 | KotCzarny | no phone? |
| 18:06.11 | ceene | and i don't give a shit about these things |
| 18:06.12 | ceene | :D |
| 18:06.26 | ceene | not much, to be honest |
| 18:06.54 | ceene | well, second fortnight of august i depend on whatsapp, sadly, to easily interact with people and make plans |
| 18:06.57 | ceene | :( |
| 18:07.01 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 18:07.22 | ceene | but i wouldn't give a damn if it were smoke signals instead of high technology |
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| 18:11.59 | KotCzarny | my only social communication channel is irc |
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| 18:12.48 | KotCzarny | other than that i just use real life talk and gsm |
| 18:27.58 | bencoh | ceene: I'd probably prefere smoke signals :p |
| 18:28.07 | bencoh | people would keep it simple |
| 18:28.17 | bencoh | out of laziness |
| 19:09.32 | ceene | bad thing about this phone i'm thinking on buying (bq a4.5) is that it seems to be the one less sold |
| 19:09.40 | ceene | so that can be a source of problems, i guess |
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| 19:35.16 | vectis3 | KotCzarny: Can you compile binaries for N8*0 on that a20 board? |
| 19:35.28 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 19:36.03 | KotCzarny | in fact last n8x0 package is built with it |
| 19:36.28 | vectis3 | cool, I might just get one. I seem to spend forever compiling on my tablet instead of playing with it. |
| 19:37.10 | KotCzarny | i think you can even use distcc, and still compile on the tablet if you really want, but having more faster storage is nice |
| 19:37.48 | vectis3 | Did you resolve the new compiler issues you were having? |
| 19:38.01 | KotCzarny | not yet |
| 19:38.26 | vectis3 | hmm, what version have you compiled? |
| 19:39.33 | vectis3 | compiler, that is. |
| 19:47.08 | KotCzarny | i had some sidetracking, ie. building my sunxi farm |
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| 20:34.08 | Vajb | ceene: now that u gave up whatsup, let me point u to new direction. That is Facebook chat ;) |
| 20:34.42 | ceene | that's not gonna happen, sorry :P |
| 20:34.47 | ceene | if something happens, it'll be telegram |
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| 23:45.25 | Oksana | If you want to compile something... What about porting xpaint to maemo repositories? I did install XPaint from Debian repository once, but minor details (locations of files, such as *.desktop, and size of touch-gui buttons) could use improvement |
