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| 06:27.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | ROTFL https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/428 |
| 06:53.24 | FIQ | well that's how systemd people generally see on things |
| 06:53.44 | FIQ | if something doesn't play nice, obviously the application is wrong, not systemd |
| 06:53.51 | FIQ | systemd, as we all know, is unfallible |
| 06:55.19 | KotCzarny | yeah, and if you want wget to download in bg then it MUST depend on systemd |
| 06:57.41 | FIQ | is that true or just further sarcasm? |
| 06:57.44 | FIQ | I can't tell :( |
| 07:02.59 | KotCzarny | true sarcasm |
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| 08:39.33 | kerio | https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/3005#issuecomment-208002146 this shit right here |
| 08:40.04 | kerio | break 30 years of unix tradition because someone's gnome session doesn't clean up properly |
| 08:40.30 | KotCzarny | ooooooold |
| 08:40.34 | KotCzarny | ooold has to go away |
| 08:40.46 | KotCzarny | you want to run 30 years old system? pah, old |
| 08:42.57 | KotCzarny | but seriously, wtf |
| 08:47.47 | KotCzarny | kerio, yeah, running stuff remotely is *nix founding stone |
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| 09:00.05 | kerio | oh and don't get me wrong |
| 09:00.10 | kerio | i understand where they're coming from |
| 09:00.25 | KotCzarny | where? |
| 09:00.27 | kerio | there's a fuckton of lingering processes on the main student server in my uni, for instance |
| 09:00.36 | kerio | but that's not a thing you fix in motherfucking init |
| 09:00.40 | kerio | that's a thing you fix in gnome |
| 09:00.42 | KotCzarny | thats a cronjob job |
| 09:00.43 | kerio | you fix in dbus |
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| 09:36.07 | FIQ | well |
| 09:36.21 | FIQ | it's a matter of time until systemd has absorbed dbus |
| 09:36.27 | kerio | no |
| 09:36.36 | kerio | they don't want to deal with that shit, they want it in the kernel |
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| 13:10.35 | luke-jr | to be fair, systemd' |
| 13:10.42 | luke-jr | to be fair, systemd's behaviour here makes sense.. for a new OS |
| 13:10.58 | KotCzarny | sure, but not as a DEFAULT for all |
| 13:11.14 | luke-jr | it should really be a chaining SIGHUP |
| 13:11.25 | luke-jr | of course, we already have that ~ |
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| 13:50.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's a shame |
| 13:55.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>To fix this properly, we'd need a manager_reset_config() call which resets all settings to the defaults, and is invoked before anager_parse_config_file() here...<< [Poettering] **headdesk** |
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| 14:09.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | reading https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/3005 top-bottom makes you wanna kill somebody, or yourself. The three stooges designing a OS |
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| 15:02.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | the ultralazy approach to "fix the issue" (in a still better way than systemd does): echo "killall -u">~/.bash_logout |
| 15:02.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes it needs 3 more script lines to really work |
| 15:03.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | toldya ultralazy |
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| 15:48.06 | Vajb | hmm im having issues with sms now. My device doesn't show them as sent altho they have been received by other person already. |
| 15:48.49 | Vajb | also message is not shown in message app, but only in it's own window |
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| 15:53.04 | Sicelo | restart rtcomm-ui or some such |
| 15:54.02 | Vajb | u mean kill it or run some fancy stop command? |
| 15:54.33 | Sicelo | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:54.59 | Sicelo | there might be a proper way, lol .. i think i just killed mine |
| 15:55.02 | Vajb | was just about to ask if that might be it :D |
| 15:57.04 | Vajb | ok got four last messages again |
| 15:57.31 | Vajb | but now it atleast appeared in conversations menu |
| 15:57.52 | Vajb | only name of the sender is missing, but i guess it'll come eventually |
| 15:58.04 | Vajb | thx a lot Sicelo |
| 15:58.25 | Vajb | Sicelo: have u had this often? First time that this happened to me. |
| 15:59.49 | Sicelo | once only |
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| 16:17.40 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05: that is first april? |
| 16:20.55 | Pali | ~poettering |
| 16:20.59 | infobot | 'sth is poettering' means it acts invasive, possessive, destructive, and generally in an egocentric exacerbating negative way. ``this cancer is extremely poettering'', or you look here for Linus' notion on what's poettering: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1404.0/01331.html, or http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1404.0/01488.html, or see ~systemd cabal |
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| 17:14.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: ls -l /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/; possibly delete (or better rename for backup purposes) el-v1.db particularly when it grew too large (>1MB) |
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| 18:56.04 | luke-jr | is there a reason N900 lights the flash LED during focus? |
| 18:56.09 | luke-jr | and/or a way to disable it? |
| 19:16.15 | drathir | luke-jr: it randomly even when flash disabled sometimes use the same as red eye reduction light ;p |
| 19:17.42 | drathir | personaly not finded solution for that... |
| 19:19.08 | drathir | but also not so hard search solution, that could be why dont find it... |
| 19:24.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | it seems for autofocus it always uses flash LEDs to illuminate the scene when light is low |
| 19:24.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | the "uses flash even when no-flash set" is a known issue that afaik only happens on first photo after a reboot, or whatever similar rule |
| 19:25.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | and possibly is fixed in nikocam aka CSSU |
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