| 00:08.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((What does "- 2>/dev/null" mean? Stderr to nowhere?)) yes |
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| 09:17.53 | Vajb | LMD:2872 :) |
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| 14:27.59 | sunshavi | Hi guys |
| 14:28.16 | sunshavi | I have been playing on n800 with fmradio. |
| 14:28.39 | sunshavi | Done is a c prg that chg the radio chanell on the fly |
| 14:29.27 | Sicelo | :) |
| 14:29.29 | sunshavi | based on the header that comes with fmradio pkg "fm_radio_utils.h" |
| 14:30.00 | Sicelo | for n800 you had to shut down radio first to change frequency? O.o |
| 14:30.16 | sunshavi | no, i am changing it on the fly |
| 14:30.26 | sunshavi | not shutting down anything |
| 14:30.35 | sunshavi | it is a very simple prg |
| 14:30.47 | sunshavi | s/prg/program/ |
| 14:30.56 | Sicelo | lol. i understand what you're doing now .. i am asking what had to be done before...? |
| 14:31.41 | sunshavi | well. on n800 from the cli, You can call fmradio binary. And it launches fmradio app |
| 14:31.59 | sunshavi | i want to turn on the radio from cli now |
| 14:32.30 | sunshavi | the header have just 5 functions |
| 14:32.39 | Sicelo | okay. i don't think we understand each other. :) |
| 14:32.43 | Sicelo | great work though |
| 14:33.05 | sunshavi | one of the functions is "fm_radio_getsignal", any idea what is this for? |
| 14:33.20 | KotCzarny | maybe signal quality |
| 14:33.29 | Sicelo | :) |
| 14:34.43 | sunshavi | mmm, when i called fm_audio_unmute the progarm segfaulted. probably I need to set-up smth before calling that function |
| 14:34.55 | Sicelo | it's good to know the quality of a connection for stereo purposes .. no point decoding stereo when your signal is bad. most household radios go momo if signal is bad, so yes, that's wht it likely is for, as KotCzarny said |
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| 14:35.12 | Sicelo | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:36.06 | sunshavi | ok. Thanks 4 the help guys. Let's keep experimenting with it |
| 14:36.14 | sunshavi | :) |
| 14:37.34 | sunshavi | btw. All os this part is close sourced by nokia yet. But in the kernel headers I have seen a v4l2 header. That could be handy too |
| 14:37.47 | sunshavi | s/All os/All of/ |
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| 15:36.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | fm_radio_getsignal might possibly tell about signal strength |
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| 15:46.14 | sunshavi | thanks DocScrutinizer05 |
| 15:46.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | yw, wild guessing though on my side |
| 15:47.14 | sunshavi | ok, if I got starting it from cli. I am going lo let You know guys |
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| 18:15.54 | Vajb | chess game saving is not working. Or it seems to work, but when i try to open it. It can't be found. I mean program doesn't see my save file. |
| 18:28.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: make sure your pathname is valid |
| 18:28.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly bug reports are welcome |
| 18:38.34 | Vajb | DocScrutinizer05: tested it with memory card and internal memory. File is created, but game doesn't see it. |
| 18:39.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmmmm |
| 18:39.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | ls -l check permission flags and owner |
| 18:40.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | make sure any possible .ext is present in your filename |
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| 18:47.44 | Vajb | -rwxrwxrwx 1 user root 173 May 23 15:30 Chess.game |
| 18:48.13 | Sicelo | the group s wrong |
| 18:48.16 | Sicelo | *is |
| 18:48.25 | KotCzarny | vajb, you can try running that chess app via strace |
| 18:48.37 | KotCzarny | and seeing which files it tries to open |
| 18:48.53 | KotCzarny | group permisssions are wrong but not the problem |
| 18:54.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | shouldn't hurt too much |
| 18:54.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | 777 anyway |
| 18:54.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: you took care about the uppercase C ? |
| 18:56.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: please try a cat Chess.game (or, depending on what's available on your system, mcedit Chess.game; less Chess.game; od Chess.game; more Chess.game) |
| 18:57.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | also ls -ld . |
| 18:57.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe the dir doesn't allow chess to execute aka list entries |
| 18:59.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | please also provide full pathname of the file |
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| 19:04.05 | Vajb | drwxrwxrwx 3 user root 65536 May 23 21:13 . |
| 19:04.40 | Vajb | file is in /home/user/Mydocs/.documents. Default path suggested by chess itself |
| 19:05.10 | Vajb | KotCzarny: tried strace but it blurbed so much stuff that i was lost |
| 19:06.20 | Vajb | DocScrutinizer05: i opened file with leafpad. Should i look something specific from there? |
| 19:07.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, just make sure it's actuially readable and has content |
| 19:08.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: did you cange MyDocs filesystem from vfat to e.g. ext3? |
| 19:08.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | mount|grep MyDoc |
| 19:09.34 | Vajb | didn't |
| 19:09.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | which should look like /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /home/user/MyDocs type vfat (rw,noatime,nodiratime,noauto,nodev,exec,nosuid,utf8,uid=29999,shortname=mixed,dmask=000,fmask=0000,rodir) |
| 19:11.12 | Vajb | /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /home/user/MyDocs type vfat (rw,noatime,nodiratime,noauto,nodev,exec,nosuid,utf8,uid=29999,shortname=mixed,dmask=000,fmask=0000,rodir) |
| 19:11.43 | Vajb | it's a match |
| 19:11.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 19:11.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm starting chess |
| 19:12.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | (if I can find it on any of my active devices) |
| 19:12.13 | KotCzarny | vajb: strace 2>&1 app params |grep ^open |
| 19:12.25 | KotCzarny | you are interested in what it tries to open anyway |
| 19:14.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | got it |
| 19:16.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | works here |
| 19:17.10 | Sicelo | :) |
| 19:17.33 | Sicelo | had tested a while ago already. something's likely up with Vajb's FS |
| 19:17.36 | Sicelo | :-/ |
| 19:18.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: make sure that on "open" your filepicker dialog actually shows the same "Nokia N900/Documents" |
| 19:20.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20160523_001.jpg |
| 19:21.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | that filepicker dialog is a tad clumsy |
| 19:22.12 | Sicelo | Vajb: by the way, since you can 'see' the file, what happens when you tap it open? |
| 19:22.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | aiui he "sees" it only in filemanager |
| 19:22.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | she? |
| 19:23.07 | Sicelo | that's good enough .. tap open |
| 19:23.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | ack |
| 19:23.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | mimetypes should do the rest |
| 19:23.58 | Vajb | Sicelo: if i tap it at default filemanager it opens the game |
| 19:24.10 | Vajb | good enough for me i guess :) |
| 19:24.26 | Sicelo | :) |
| 19:24.29 | Sicelo | lol |
| 19:24.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, please check if your filepicker dialog in game is broken |
| 19:24.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20160523_001.jpg |
| 19:25.30 | Vajb | hmm could it make some problem that i removed osso-chess once and then reinstalled? Maybe it didn't do it cleanly. |
| 19:25.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's a very common problem of that dialog that users don't notice a different path in the upper button |
| 19:27.06 | Vajb | it looks like correct |
| 19:27.25 | Vajb | only difference is that i renamed my device to WTF |
| 19:27.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | also the path shown (and used) in this upper dirtree button is depending on name of device and locale |
| 19:27.43 | Vajb | could that be case? |
| 19:27.44 | Sicelo | lol, WTF!!! |
| 19:27.47 | Sicelo | that's why |
| 19:27.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 19:27.54 | Sicelo | haha, just pulling your leg |
| 19:28.00 | KotCzarny | vajb, check what file it tries to save/open and compare paths |
| 19:28.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | please click on the button "Neo900/Dokumente" (or whatever) and make sure it points to the right dir |
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| 19:30.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | it should prolly actually read "WTF/documents" |
| 19:30.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | not sure |
| 19:32.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | dang |
| 19:32.42 | Vajb | yes it does point to right dir |
| 19:32.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/Neo900/nokia N900/ |
| 19:32.59 | Sicelo | haha |
| 19:33.13 | Sicelo | someone's living in the future yet |
| 19:33.34 | KotCzarny | sicelo, we all do |
| 19:33.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | what makes you sure I didn't name my N900 "Neo900" ? |
| 19:33.52 | KotCzarny | imagine fitting all worlds libraries in the size of your nail |
| 19:34.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: please actually click the button and explicitly browse the dir tree to select the right dir |
| 19:35.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: as in: if it really would point to the right dir, you'd see the Chess file |
| 19:36.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's a symlink MyDocs/.documents/ in the filesystem, which would break stuff for you if missing |
| 19:37.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, it's no Symlink here, it's a true dir |
| 19:37.22 | Vajb | it doesn't help. Even if i choose it from the start |
| 19:37.35 | Vajb | meaning i slect WTF etc |
| 19:37.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | sth is messed up on your system |
| 19:38.11 | Vajb | also i created another chess.game at root of the memory card and it doesn't see it either |
| 19:38.27 | Vajb | lemme try to put it in some other folder |
| 19:40.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | glares at freedesktop XDG |
| 19:42.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html ***Lennart Poettering*** WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!! |
| 19:42.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | headdesks violently |
| 19:43.17 | Vajb | hmm strange indeed. I created folder "Chess" in WTF and it doesn't show up in chess, but when i created "chess" folder to memory card it is shown, but is empty. Altho it contains chess.game file. |
| 19:45.38 | Sicelo | can't parse (the memory card part) .. |
| 19:46.12 | Sicelo | ah.. you mean the application does not 'see' the file that in memory card/chess directory? |
| 19:53.46 | Vajb | yes |
| 19:54.24 | Vajb | i have /media/mmc1/chess/chess.game and chess game shows just empty directory |
| 19:55.09 | Vajb | also i created /home/user/.chess and game doesn't see it at all |
| 19:57.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, this randomly picked N900 is thoroughly fsckdup |
| 19:57.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | icons in applauncher vanished |
| 19:57.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | starting chess nevertheless, reboots the device |
| 19:58.02 | Vajb | also i checked from .desktop file that exec for chess is /usr/bin/chessui.launch, but when i run that in terminal it segfaults |
| 19:58.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | "inernal error: program _calendar terminated" |
| 19:59.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, you can't run that |
| 19:59.30 | Vajb | DocScrutinizer05: i got that rarely with settings |
| 20:00.43 | Vajb | i mean "internal error: programm settings terminated" |
| 20:02.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: could you please do "SAVE" "NEW" create_a_folder "Test", click "Test", click "test" button, save game name "tttttt" |
| 20:02.53 | Vajb | but i have a theory; could it be that when i purged osso-chess and then installed it again after few months, some file priorities or something didn't got set as if default? |
| 20:03.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | some config files might not have been installed in a correct way, yes |
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| 20:05.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((could you please)) after I do 2Open" then, it already gives me "Nokia N900/test" dir and shows "tttt" file |
| 20:05.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/2/"/ |
| 20:06.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | it seems to me you're still using different paths for SAVE and OPEN |
| 20:06.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | or incorrect file permissions, or whatever |
| 20:06.56 | Vajb | but how can it be, if i browse to directory from the start of the tree? |
| 20:07.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | the filepicker dialog is severely messed up by design |
| 20:08.04 | Vajb | also when i select save game it doesn't give me option to create new folder. or i misunderstood u. |
| 20:08.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | it mangles pathnames |
| 20:08.31 | Vajb | i can just pick one of the excisting ones |
| 20:08.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | err, I have a button "NEW" in lower right corner |
| 20:09.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | you obvuously need to enter the dir selector function |
| 20:09.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | by clicking on the upper button left side |
| 20:09.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | wait... |
| 20:09.33 | Vajb | inside chess game? |
| 20:10.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | inside chess game start a new game |
| 20:11.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | click the back arrow upper right tp go to the root menu |
| 20:11.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | open dropdown menu |
| 20:11.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | select "Save" |
| 20:11.54 | Vajb | done |
| 20:12.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | click "storage location" (the lower button under the text input field |
| 20:12.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | on lower right you see "New" |
| 20:12.52 | Vajb | created folder saved game there and when i browse to folder to open game it says it is empty |
| 20:13.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's pretty mad |
| 20:13.33 | Vajb | and i can see the file being in there at file manager |
| 20:13.54 | Vajb | beats me |
| 20:14.34 | KotCzarny | vajb, did you check strace ? |
| 20:14.35 | Vajb | when i get home i'll do some comparison between my devices and see if i can figure out something odd |
| 20:14.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | apt-get purge osso-chess-ui osso-graphics-game-chess gnuchess osso-sounds-game-chess && |
| 20:14.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | apt-get install osso-chess-ui osso-graphics-game-chess gnuchess osso-sounds-game-chess |
| 20:15.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | at own risk! |
| 20:15.10 | Vajb | KotCzarny: i couldn't get it to launch game |
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| 20:15.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: you can't start stuff like that in terminal I guess |
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| 20:15.57 | Vajb | how i check if i have all of those installed? |
| 20:16.34 | Vajb | dpkg something osso? |
| 20:20.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | chess is obviously started only via dbus |
| 20:22.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | MimeType=application/game X-Osso-Service=com.nokia.osso_chess.startup osso_games_startup |
| 20:22.49 | Vajb | at least i have all those files |
| 20:23.07 | Vajb | will comare their priorities and stuff at home |
| 20:23.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | priorities?? |
| 20:23.18 | Vajb | compare* |
| 20:23.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | I honestly suggest to purge and reinstall $everything-chess |
| 20:24.03 | Vajb | mm permissions maybe? |
| 20:25.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/41602168 |
| 20:27.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | you also might suffer from some weird messup in mimetypes |
| 20:27.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | though then probably clicking on a savedxxx.game in filemanager wouldn't start the game |
| 20:29.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | debugging this stuff is pretty much useless since it's obviously a broken config on your system, since none of us sees same effect |
| 20:29.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | so it would turn into a chase of "what did you do to XYZ a year ago?" |
| 20:30.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | where XYZ could be quite a number of things, from applauncher over mimetypes to XDG to filesystems to.... |
| 20:31.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | while such chase is _sometimes_ fun, it usually doesn't allow us to learn much useful stuff |
| 20:37.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway other apps use the exactly same filepicker dialog, so you could test with another app - preferrably not one that sets a fixed "*.game" search pattern, if the problem is the same |
| 20:37.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/tern,/tern -/ |
| 20:42.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | e.g. in stock filemanager the "Move" function (and basically whole filemanager) is using all the same dialogs |
| 20:42.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | like chess does |
| 20:44.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | we've seen other weird fsckup like camera-ui creating dirs in lowercase, then trying to open it in uppercase, which worked as long as the dir was on a VFAT FS |
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| 20:45.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | I honestly have no clue what could cause chess to not see files it created, while they are actually there |
| 20:45.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | the most plausible thing would be you did something to the system while renaming the device |
| 20:46.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | but that wouldn't explain how chess can find dirs it created but doesn't find files it created in those dirs |
| 20:47.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | obviously chess sets a filter like "*.game" for the files to display, and mangles the name by stripping the extension. Sth with that must be wrong |
| 20:48.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | mimetypes are involved into that, as is the chess code itself obviously, then also char encoding settings and whatnot else |
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| 20:56.33 | Vajb | i tried all sorts of renamings, uppercase, lowecase. Got nowhere |
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| 21:31.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | did you try comverting UTF8 to ASCII or vice versa? honestly I think there's just no point in trying to debug that, rather do a re-install or even a reflash |
| 21:32.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you really want to 'fix' it, you need strace and tests in other apps |
| 21:34.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe even gdb rather than strace |
| 21:49.19 | Vajb | maybe i'll try reinstalling first and see if it does any good |
| 21:50.10 | Vajb | and anyways i can live with it since i can access to save via filemanager |
| 21:50.31 | Vajb | thx for suggestions all |
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| 22:51.51 | Vajb | Home at last and can confirm that my other device has same flaw. So it seems that removing and installing chess again doesn't bring full functionality back. My other device is cssu-thumb |
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| 23:55.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | please be unambiguous! you have same problem on two devices now? |
| 23:56.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | I checked on a device with supposedly almost stock maemo, and on a CSSUt-recent, and both work fine |
| 23:57.14 | Vajb | DocScrutinizer05: could u try and purge and reinstall to see what happens? |
| 23:57.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm pretty sure you installed some stuff that is messing up this |
| 23:57.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | why would I? stuff works for me |
| 23:58.11 | Vajb | just askig :) |
| 23:58.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | you're suggesting I try to break it? |
| 23:58.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | for you, I do almost everything |
| 23:58.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P |
| 23:59.01 | Vajb | :p |
