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03:37.46Maxdamantussunshavi: `mkdir -p`?
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04:29.06sunshavino to the oscp media player
04:30.02sunshaviBut, thanks Maxdamantus
04:33.27MaxdamantusAnyway, improved the flash drive I've been carrying for the last 7 years: http://maxdamantus.eu.org/fd.jpg
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07:54.21ceeneaaaaaaaaaah
07:54.27ceenei'm not sending ciphered messages!!!
07:54.37ceeneat least now i understand why
07:54.38ceenelol
07:54.52ceenehow can someone hate so much an inanimate piece of code
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08:22.55Vajbgotta love modern phones. Tried to install Xabber for my gf android and guess what happen? You got that right, can't install memory full.
08:24.00Vajbthat was like minute after she complained me being stubborn and not buying new phone. I returned that as "wanna ask me now why" :)
08:26.24JuestPlay Store loves to refuse to install apps when free space is below 500mb!
08:27.05KotCzarnyproblem is there are many different partitions where the app/data goes
08:27.34KotCzarnywhich means you can have 64GB card for apps and still get 'no free space'
08:27.52kerioandroid is a mess
08:28.03JuestBecause the card is not taken as main "source" for stuff
08:28.12kerioios is much more legit
08:28.26JuestOnly it does if you dont have a "internal" storage
08:28.31Juestaka /data/media
08:29.02Juesthates his GT-I9000
08:29.06Juest9500*
08:29.11Vajbshe has xcover 2. Notorious as always full memory
08:29.11KotCzarnyjuest, depends on droid version, manufacturer etc
08:29.13JuestSGS4 intl octacore
08:29.27Vajbonly one gb and can't install stuff on card
08:29.52JuestPlay store refuses to install with 1gb free?
08:29.57Juestlol
08:30.15MaxdamantusWell, people have the same problem with N900/Maemo if they don't hack around with the partitions, don't they?
08:30.30KotCzarnyyup
08:30.33JuestWish i could repartition... :|
08:30.37KotCzarnyvendor issues.
08:31.38MaxdamantusYou have some huge FAT32 filesystem for user data, a 256 M* filesystem for the base OS and some 2 GB or so filesystem for /opt
08:31.39VajbMaxdamantus: never ever had that problem
08:32.00Vajbi guess im happy with few apps
08:32.03Vajbthen
08:32.19Vajband for xcover i guess zero is the limit
08:32.25MaxdamantusIf you used Android, that might still be the case.
08:32.55Vajbthere was also update for samsung storo which couldn't be installed because of lack of space
08:33.07Vajbstore*
08:33.26Vajbfree space around 35mb
08:33.34Maxdamantus2.8G    maemo5-root
08:33.37Maxdamantus5.0G    debian-armel-root
08:33.44Maxdamantus1.1G    opt
08:33.56Vajband xabber claimed to be 5,4
08:33.58Maxdamantus1.8G    user
08:34.18Maxdamantuson my latest backup (I have everything on the same filesystem)
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08:35.33Vajbmaemo says i have 1,32gb for apps
08:35.46KotCzarnylies.
08:35.47KotCzarny;)
08:35.53Vajbbut that can't be right
08:36.02KotCzarnydf is the truth
08:36.53Vajboh yeah i wanted to ask if it is possible to have different on screen keyboard layouts? Best would be if it changes when i change layout from menu.
08:37.06Maxdamantusrootfs                   27.4G     17.1G      8.8G  66% /
08:37.06Maxdamantus/dev/mmcblk1p1          115.2G     49.2G     60.2G  45% /mnt/sd
08:37.36Vajb71% of rootfs used
08:38.55Vajbk shopping time bbl...
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09:03.15KotCzarnyON ^NICKNAME "* *" {echo $Z Nick: $0 -> $1}
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09:18.03SiceloJuest: install on memory card?
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10:33.40ceenethis piece of shift may be failing due to google protobufs, i think
10:33.52ceeneversion available on sb is old
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10:34.09ceeneand i think the problem may be someplace related to protobufs
10:34.55Sicelowhat 'shit' you talking about lol? yappari or the other project?
10:35.19ceenewhenever i talk about some shit it's always yappari
10:35.22ceene:D
10:35.26Sicelolol
10:35.28KotCzarny;)
10:36.06DocScrutinizer05protobufs??
10:36.19ceeneDocScrutinizer05: yes
10:36.26DocScrutinizer05never heard of
10:36.31ceenea piece of gigantic shit brought to life by google
10:36.58ceenehttps://developers.google.com/protocol-buffers/docs/overview#how-do-they-work
10:37.20ceeneand axolotl depends on this
10:38.46DocScrutinizer05sounds like YACC reloaded and then raped til it shouts "Save me curl!"
10:40.33DocScrutinizer05thinks google simply has way too much money to waste
10:40.59ceenealso, i have a problem debugging this
10:41.14DocScrutinizer05LOL, yeah, I can easily see why
10:41.27ceeneBreakpoint 3, SessionRecord::SessionRecord (this=0xa02cd0, serialized=...)
10:41.27ceene<PROTECTED>
10:41.27ceene19    textsecure::RecordStructure record;
10:41.27ceene(gdb) n
10:41.27ceene20    record.ParsePartialFromArray(serialized.constData(), serialized.size());
10:41.30ceene(gdb) p record
10:41.32ceeneNo symbol "record" in current context.
10:41.45ceenewhy?
10:42.16DocScrutinizer05nfc
10:42.29DocScrutinizer05sounds like c++
10:42.35ceenesadly, yes
10:42.40ceenemaybe that's been optimized out
10:42.51ceenei don't know how much control i have over this automatic code generation shit
10:42.53KotCzarnyrebuild?
10:42.58KotCzarnywith -g ?
10:43.04ceenei know my code is built with -g without any -O
10:43.18ceenebut i think the problem is right there
10:43.21KotCzarnyactually if you dont use any -O then its probably -O2
10:43.24KotCzarnyso use -O0
10:44.47DocScrutinizer05sorry, no gdb expert here, no c++ expert either, but I wonder how gdb handles objects
10:45.00ceenepretty badly
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10:54.18KotCzarnyhmm
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11:09.08keriois *any* sort of music playback accelerated on the n900?
11:09.31KotCzarnyi think media player uses it
11:09.37keriodoes oscp use it
11:09.38KotCzarnydecodes mp3 etc
11:09.46KotCzarnynope, oscp doesnt use dsp
11:09.50kerio.-.
11:09.54keriodoes it do flac
11:10.05KotCzarnyunless you use gst interface, then yes
11:10.11kerioyay
11:11.22KotCzarnybut check yourself, use gst-launch and check cpu usage
11:12.29kerioi'm also worried about resampling tbh
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11:15.50kerioA2DP is done on cpu right
11:16.12KotCzarnyyou should be happy you have a2dp at all
11:16.52keriono i mean
11:16.58keriocan i pre-encode my songs for A2DP
11:20.42KotCzarny~a2dp
11:20.42infobotsomebody said a2dp was http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13468
11:20.56kerionoice
11:20.57Siceloa2dp definitely in software
11:21.28KotCzarnyuh. itt down
11:24.41kerioam i a bad enough dude to play a 48/24 flac on the n900
11:25.15KotCzarnyi think oscp played flacs with 192k/24bit
11:25.20KotCzarny6ch
11:25.31KotCzarnyunless i've broken something on the way
11:25.42kerionoice
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11:37.56kerionow the real question
11:37.57keriois it worth it
11:38.01kerioprobably not
11:38.15KotCzarnyyup.
11:38.26kerioalthough i have to say, playing back a single flac (with openmediaplayer) seemed more snappy and responsive than playing back a v0 mp3
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16:00.13fishbulbis yappari likely to ever work again?
16:00.29fishbulbwhat with the encryption
16:02.36Sicelo009Nit is likely, i'd say
16:02.39KotCzarnyif you send ceene motivational pack, maybe
16:03.21fishbulbI can send koala feces
16:03.43KotCzarnythere, you can see the problem
16:04.11fishbulbI have an n900 with a broken usb
16:05.09fishbulbhey is it possible to "bridge" the n900 with an android tablet?
16:05.51fishbulbhave the n900 work as a kind of 2g/3g modem?
16:06.06fishbulband have whatsapp and other things run on android?
16:06.28KotCzarnyi think n900 can work as an ap?
16:07.27fishbulbonly using wep
16:07.31fishbulband ad hoc
16:07.49fishbulband I haven't found a version of android that can connect to it
16:09.26fishbulbwihtout yappari I can't really use the phone
16:14.23fishbulbthe only other device I have is a nexus tablet
16:15.03KotCzarnymaybe hacking bluetooth to use as network
16:15.24KotCzarny~pan
16:15.27infobotGnome/GTK Newsreader. URL: http://www.superpimp.org/
16:15.29KotCzarny~btpan
16:16.09KotCzarnyhttps://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_PAN
16:16.32KotCzarnyinfobot: #maemo pan is https://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_PAN
16:16.32infobotokay, KotCzarny
16:16.34KotCzarny~pan
16:16.35infobothmm... pan is https://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_PAN
16:18.36fishbulbthis works?
16:18.55KotCzarnyif you can convince that tablet to use it, yes
16:20.16DocScrutinizer05summons marius gedminas
16:21.44DocScrutinizer05are the Programmers of Vilnius (Lit) on holiday, and the pov.lt boxes on service downtime?
16:22.15DocScrutinizer05~seen mgedmin
16:22.17infobotmgedmin <~mg@Maemo/community/contributor/mgedmin> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 851d 3h 26m 33s ago, saying: 'if you rephrase the question as "what does it mean when the irc client on my n9 says 'channel mode is ...'", it suddenly becomes on-topic ;)'.
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18:11.35Sicelo009N~ping
18:11.36infobot1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss
18:12.21Sicelo009Nfishbulb: put the sim in the android .. simpler :)
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18:19.36Sicelo009N~ping
18:19.37infobot1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss
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18:32.50KotCzarnysunshavi: press ';' or click 'more buttons' (third icon on the left) then 'make recursive list' (icon that looks like a page with the plus sign)
18:33.22Vajbis it just me or maemo pidgin can't send media?
18:39.50Sicelo009Ndepends on protocol
18:40.46KotCzarny(or was it 'l' key and empty search string
18:42.11Vajbcould be that it is because xabber client at the other end. It is currently not supporting file transfer
18:42.17Vajbprotocol is xmmp
18:45.10Sicelo009Nunfortunately my battery is low .. can't test
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19:21.39fishbulbthe android can't take a sim
19:22.11fishbulbit's wifi only, tablet, that's the only reason in the world to do what I was sking
19:22.27fishbulbwhich messaging apps are left for the n900?
19:31.14Sicelo009NSMS :)
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19:59.11Vajbpidgin
19:59.23Vajbirssi
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20:34.01KotCzarnyfunny as it is, sdk chroot keeps hanging in 3.4.x kernel and runs without issues with 4.5.x
20:34.25KotCzarnydoes it mean fremantle can run with 4.5?
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20:35.36Siceloyes, afaik .. that's what freemangordon and Pali work on/do
20:45.54KotCzarnyor im just hitting some random futex bug
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21:00.36luke-jra lot of these usb magnet chargers have poor reviews of slow charging etc
21:00.43luke-jrsomeone has tested ZNAPS and it works fine?
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21:13.56KotCzarnyhttp://kickscammed.com/project/znaps/
21:13.58KotCzarnyo.O
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21:44.37luke-jrKotCzarny: :/
21:44.41luke-jrso what have people actually useD?
21:56.30DocScrutinizer05Pali: freemangordon: could you help me and check if you find TWL4030   GPIO6/PWM0  (pin M4)  used anywhere in the maemo code?
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23:01.46sunshaviKotCzarny: thanks. I am going to try it
23:21.34sunshaviKotCzarny: r u planning on moving to 4.5

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