| 00:33.29 | sunshavi | KotCzarny: r u there? |
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| 04:02.16 | KotCzarny | sunshavi: hmm? |
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| 05:41.49 | sunshavi | KotCzarny hey |
| 05:42.07 | sunshavi | I have a question about the boards |
| 05:51.05 | sunshavi | chk https://dpaste.de/Am56/raw |
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| 07:01.03 | KotCzarny | sunshavi: for one they are based on rockchip |
| 07:01.10 | KotCzarny | which is faster than allwinner |
| 07:01.56 | KotCzarny | second, probably developed outside of china |
| 07:02.39 | KotCzarny | as for opi board, go for opi+2e |
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| 07:03.21 | KotCzarny | http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Orange-Pi-Plus-2-E-H3-Quad-Core-1-6GHZ-2GB-RAM-4K-Open-source-development/1553371_32665196281.html |
| 07:03.37 | KotCzarny | (you might probably want to grab some set with power brick etc) |
| 07:04.19 | KotCzarny | for example this one: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Orange-Pi-Plus-2e-SET4-Pi-Plus-2e-Power-Supply-Adapter-Support-Android-Ubuntu-Debian-Better/1553371_32666123166.html |
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| 10:43.24 | ceene | i'm stuck again with this yappari thing |
| 10:43.40 | KotCzarny | and i've ordered opi+2e, hooraah! |
| 10:43.51 | ceene | there's some underlying issue related to session management that affects both receiving and sending messages |
| 10:44.03 | ceene | the messages i was able to send were via a strange bypass |
| 10:44.20 | ceene | but the real issue is there still |
| 10:44.42 | ceene | i'm playing at work with this thing http://www.xilinx.com/products/boards-and-kits/arty.html |
| 10:46.18 | ceene | i can't get its ethernet to work :( |
| 10:47.28 | KotCzarny | :) 2gb, 4x1.3ghz (h3), 3+1usb, av jack, hdmi, gigabit eth, wifi, 16gb emmc, euler connector, mic, ir |
| 10:47.44 | KotCzarny | price? 35usd + ~4usd shipping |
| 10:47.58 | ceene | but it's all done! my arty is funnier because i have to implement all those hardware devices in programmable logic, if i want them |
| 10:48.09 | Vajb | not bad. Now add phone functionality to it |
| 10:48.26 | KotCzarny | well, there are usb gsm sticks |
| 10:48.40 | KotCzarny | but i plan it to use as a desktop pc replacement (firefox etc) |
| 10:49.01 | Vajb | + make it easy to carry and pleasant for eye :p |
| 10:49.28 | KotCzarny | bare board ftw! |
| 10:49.43 | KotCzarny | http://g01.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1oYIPJFXXXXbOXVXXq6xXFXXX0/222195001/HTB1oYIPJFXXXXbOXVXXq6xXFXXX0.jpg?size=168812&height=800&width=800&hash=f833b1e4c86dad2a51b2e5e03f0b04c4 |
| 10:50.05 | Vajb | "this my new super cool naked cellphone" |
| 12:33.04 | bencoh | :] |
| 12:40.45 | KotCzarny | 'and this is my battery. *points at heavy backpack*' |
| 12:45.46 | kerio | KotCzarny: bsd support? |
| 12:45.49 | kerio | also is the usb 3.0 |
| 12:46.48 | KotCzarny | nope, but the ports are routed directly to chip (ie. not sharing bandwidth) |
| 12:47.07 | KotCzarny | as for bsd support, does bsd support allwinner h3 soc? |
| 12:47.49 | kerio | The current target platforms are Allwinner A1x/A20 (sunxi), Freescale i.MX6 (imx) and TI OMAP3/4 (am335x/beagle/panda). |
| 12:47.56 | kerio | (openbsd) |
| 12:48.39 | KotCzarny | then no |
| 12:48.55 | kerio | :( |
| 12:49.04 | KotCzarny | unless you plan to run in some linux vm |
| 12:50.31 | kerio | i really need to replace my sheevaplug with something |
| 12:52.53 | KotCzarny | clearfod ? |
| 12:52.57 | KotCzarny | clearfog |
| 12:53.02 | KotCzarny | its pretty decent board |
| 12:53.16 | KotCzarny | marvell based tho |
| 12:54.30 | kerio | 6 ethernet tho |
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| 12:55.27 | KotCzarny | and bunch of sata ports with real throughput |
| 12:55.58 | kerio | what about braswell instead |
| 12:57.05 | KotCzarny | dont know, i have high hopes for that opi+2e |
| 12:57.08 | kerio | https://www.solid-run.com/intel-braswell-family/braswell-som-system-on-module/braswell-som-specifications/ coming soon ;-; |
| 12:57.29 | KotCzarny | and intel have said it leaves embedded market, havent it? |
| 12:58.05 | bencoh | not exactly |
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| 12:58.41 | bencoh | they closed their "digital home" unit (settopboxes) |
| 12:59.22 | KotCzarny | http://liliputing.com/2016/04/reports-intel-is-killing-off-low-power-atom-chips.html |
| 12:59.27 | KotCzarny | im talking about this one |
| 13:01.06 | kerio | or i could go balls deep with a skylake-based mini pc |
| 13:07.06 | bencoh | well they did announce they'd kill 12k jobs |
| 13:07.10 | bencoh | so .... |
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| 13:35.16 | ceene | aaargh |
| 13:35.17 | ceene | i hate this shit |
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| 14:18.11 | KotCzarny | sunshavi: have you seen my reply? |
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| 14:37.00 | sunshavi | no, i am going to check the log |
| 14:38.54 | sunshavi | ok. I have saw it. Nice. also rockchip is 28 nm |
| 14:39.20 | KotCzarny | also always check vendor/software support |
| 14:39.34 | KotCzarny | because even best cpu is useless without software |
| 14:39.51 | sunshavi | yeah, but unix comes to the rescue :) |
| 14:40.13 | KotCzarny | not always |
| 14:40.13 | sunshavi | And You have probed unix runs there |
| 14:40.56 | sunshavi | mmm. All those boards say they support Android and Linux |
| 14:41.05 | KotCzarny | marketing |
| 14:41.11 | sunshavi | KotCzarny: fireprime even supports android 5.1 |
| 14:41.21 | KotCzarny | you want either full drivers or mainline drivers |
| 14:41.37 | KotCzarny | unless you are happy with unknown quality droid |
| 14:42.13 | sunshavi | KotCzarny: what is "unknown quality droid"? |
| 14:42.33 | KotCzarny | that it might be full of bugs |
| 14:42.53 | sunshavi | then i should wait for u board to arrive :p |
| 14:43.42 | sunshavi | fireprime has source code available for android 5.1 and linus version of unix |
| 14:44.28 | KotCzarny | does it have active user base too? |
| 14:45.13 | sunshavi | it seems so. Mailing list. support email |
| 14:46.04 | sunshavi | see: http://wiki.t-firefly.com/index.php/FirePrime/Build_kernel/en |
| 14:46.41 | sunshavi | KotCzarny: i am gmt -0500. What about You? |
| 14:47.17 | KotCzarny | cest (+2) |
| 14:47.36 | KotCzarny | i mean gmt+2 |
| 14:47.48 | sunshavi | ok. That's the reason our schedule in not the same |
| 14:48.22 | sunshavi | i undrertood. do not worry |
| 14:48.59 | sunshavi | what is ur ETA for ur new board? |
| 14:49.08 | KotCzarny | paid for it today |
| 14:49.17 | KotCzarny | usual delivery from china is 7-15 days |
| 14:49.28 | KotCzarny | if there are customs problems another few days |
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| 14:53.23 | sunshavi | ok, to here is almost a month too |
| 14:53.55 | KotCzarny | if you are in usa you might contact loverpi shop |
| 14:55.24 | KotCzarny | https://www.loverpi.com/ |
| 14:56.03 | sunshavi | no. South America |
| 15:00.18 | sunshavi | KotCzarny: h3 is 28 nm too. What makes rockchip better than allwinner? |
| 15:00.35 | KotCzarny | is it? |
| 15:00.57 | sunshavi | http://linux-sunxi.org/H3 |
| 15:01.16 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 15:22.30 | Sicelo | ceene: what's up? |
| 15:23.25 | Sicelo | ah, i've read backscroll now |
| 15:23.44 | ceene | Sicelo: i hate everyone :D |
| 15:23.48 | ceene | well, mostly whatsapp engineers |
| 15:23.51 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 15:23.56 | ceene | and all the whatsapp users too |
| 15:24.12 | ceene | my time would be better spent making yappari use telegram |
| 15:24.13 | Sicelo | thinks ceene will have no gf soon, lol |
| 15:24.19 | ceene | i don't hate here |
| 15:24.21 | ceene | she's cool |
| 15:24.25 | ceene | s/here/her/ |
| 15:24.32 | Sicelo | doesn't use whatsapp? :p |
| 15:24.37 | ceene | infobot: you should learn how to replace on lines previous to the last |
| 15:24.42 | ceene | yep, but we work together |
| 15:24.54 | ceene | so if i want to talk to her i just change office and go talk to her |
| 15:25.08 | Sicelo | oh, wow! |
| 15:25.28 | KotCzarny | technology! |
| 15:26.23 | ceene | she's the pcb maker for our radars |
| 15:26.28 | ceene | well, designer |
| 15:26.31 | KotCzarny | o.O |
| 15:26.34 | KotCzarny | is she real? |
| 15:26.37 | ceene | lol |
| 15:26.39 | ceene | do you want one? |
| 15:26.41 | ceene | she has a sister |
| 15:26.44 | ceene | but is a doctor |
| 15:26.50 | KotCzarny | O.o |
| 15:27.30 | ceene | if neo900 wants to contract us both, we're willing to think about it |
| 15:27.37 | ceene | we're quite tired of radars and our boss |
| 15:28.21 | ceene | we're the perfect team |
| 15:33.33 | ceene | http://imgur.com/a/rKm7D |
| 15:33.40 | ceene | two of her boards |
| 15:33.46 | ceene | 1.0 and 2.0 |
| 15:34.02 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 15:34.21 | ceene | in 2.0 the first beer is empty because we've already drank it |
| 15:34.46 | ceene | they don't let us introduce beers in our circuits anymore :( |
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| 15:57.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ceene: we could use a good layouter |
| 15:59.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | according to the icons I guess the board revisions are b1 and b01 |
| 15:59.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
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| 16:00.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, you already explained that |
| 16:00.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't mind beers in Neo900 :-) |
| 16:01.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | how about 8-layer? |
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| 16:01.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | in-pad vias, BGA? |
| 16:01.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | eagle? |
| 16:02.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | I suck as layouter, so I'd love to outsource this |
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| 16:03.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | needs an alternative to mouse, wrist hurts |
| 16:04.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | eyetracking maybe? |
| 16:04.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | ceene: anyway I can't hire anybody, only contract |
| 16:05.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | query me |
| 16:07.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | OHNOES! mg.pov.lt down? |
| 16:07.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, only slow |
| 16:08.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | or is that just my DSL? |
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| 17:38.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.experten-arbeit-stärken.de/ |
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| 19:22.48 | ceene | DocScrutinizer05: ahycka uses altium |
| 19:23.27 | ceene | her first bga design will be this term, with an artix7, and after that a kintex7 |
| 19:23.37 | ceene | maybe a zynq someday too |
| 19:23.48 | ceene | that'll be 12 layers possibly |
| 19:25.34 | ceene | she's routed a couple 8GHz designs too |
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| 19:27.24 | ceene | there she is |
| 19:28.29 | ahycka | Hi :) |
| 19:31.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | hi! |
| 19:31.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | altium is fine, just we don't have it |
| 19:32.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm absolutely sure altium can import eagle schematics, but could it export layouts to eagle format? |
| 19:34.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | (eagle layout aka .brd format isn't that bad nowadays. Plaintext XML) |
| 19:36.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/41821225 |
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| 19:39.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | ahycka: ^^^ |
| 19:39.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | BBL |
| 19:40.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | if we can't have .brd files for eagle, we need to ponder if it nevertheless can get done |
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| 19:58.05 | ceene | https://techdocs.altium.com/display/ADOH/Importing+and+Exporting+Design+Files |
| 19:58.23 | ceene | altium can read eagle fies, wirte not so much |
| 19:58.49 | ceene | ohp yes it can |
| 19:58.51 | ceene | .brd files |
| 19:59.05 | ceene | SDRC-IDF Brd Files (*.brd) |
| 19:59.20 | ahycka | DocScrutinizer05 i can try export a project from altium to eagle and see what happend then when i'll open in eagle and viceversa |
| 20:00.17 | ahycka | and, anyway, i dont mind learn eagle |
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| 20:47.11 | DocScrutinizer51 | ahycka: sounds good |
| 20:47.29 | ahycka | :) |
| 20:48.42 | DocScrutinizer51 | I'd also not mind learning/using altium. If only it wasn't the need to buy it first, and the problem to share the files to community then |
| 20:48.54 | DocScrutinizer51 | :) |
| 20:49.24 | DocScrutinizer51 | the eagle router is rather crappy |
| 20:51.44 | ceene | is there a repo with neo900 schematics/pcb? |
| 20:58.02 | DocScrutinizer51 | hmmm, see what's in neo900.org/resources - I dunno if I published the project files of recent design, prolly not since there are actually vampires out there :) |
| 21:00.12 | DocScrutinizer51 | wait till I'm back home, I send you the most recent proj files |
| 21:03.47 | ceene | i see some pdf files, but i think there aren't source files there |
| 21:04.12 | ceene | we want to test at least and see how import/export works from altium/eagle |
| 21:06.49 | DocScrutinizer51 | ceene: understood, just wait another 30 min |
| 21:07.34 | ceene | there's no hurry, we won't be able to try it until tomorrow at work |
| 21:08.01 | ahycka | and it's 11pm here xD |
| 21:08.08 | ahycka | almost sleep time |
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| 21:31.01 | ceene | sleep time is it! |
| 21:31.03 | ceene | bb! |
| 21:32.40 | ahycka | nn! |
| 21:36.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | o/ |
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| 22:53.20 | sunshavi | Hi guys, the search input text on http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog works for You guys? |
| 22:54.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | didn't last time I tried |
| 22:54.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen mgedmin |
| 22:54.49 | infobot | mgedmin <~mg@Maemo/community/contributor/mgedmin> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 849d 9h 59m 5s ago, saying: 'if you rephrase the question as "what does it mean when the irc client on my n9 says 'channel mode is ...'", it suddenly becomes on-topic ;)'. |
| 22:55.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | however he's online |
| 22:55.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | nfc clue in which channel |
| 22:55.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'll query him |
| 22:58.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | done |
| 22:59.59 | sunshavi | thanks DocScrutinizer05 |
| 23:00.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | alas http://infobot.rikers.org/%23maemo/ has no search |
| 23:01.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | err |
| 23:01.08 | *** join/#maemo trumee (~trumee@c-50-175-121-86.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 23:01.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, google search |
| 23:01.38 | sunshavi | I am planning on compiling openssl 0.9.8n 4 os2008. and I think I read somebody was trying to update openssl on n900 based on the versions on Red Hat version XXX |
| 23:01.54 | sunshavi | ~seen DocScrutinizer05 |
| 23:01.55 | infobot | docscrutinizer05 is currently on #n9 (19h 1m 53s) #openmoko (19h 1m 53s) #neo900 (19h 1m 53s) #maemo-ssu (19h 1m 53s) #devuan (19h 1m 53s) #maemo (19h 1m 53s) #qi-hardware (19h 1m 53s) #harmattan (19h 1m 53s) #infobot (19h 1m 53s) #openmoko-cdevel (19h 1m 53s). Has said a total of 84 messages. Is idling for 34s, last said: 'meh, google search'. |
| 23:02.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~shutup |
| 23:02.52 | infobot | yes master, I'll STFU |
| 23:02.57 | sunshavi | nice command. Any cheat sheet about the infobot? |
| 23:03.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+help |
| 23:03.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~query |
| 23:03.17 | infobot | talk dirty to me! Preferably, do so after you have typed "/query infobot" which should open a new window/tab/whatever with most irc clients. You can talk to me all you like and don't annoy other people with endless queries. Be aware that the stuff you write is logged, so don't get too 1337 :) |
| 23:05.24 | sunshavi | nice. thanks |
| 23:05.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | yw |
| 23:05.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | most useful: |
| 23:05.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys #maemo |
| 23:06.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~720p |
| 23:06.00 | infobot | it has been said that 720p is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=77695 |
| 23:06.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues cloud-7.de |
| 23:06.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~mhd |
| 23:06.33 | infobot | well, mhd is [Modified Hildon Desktop] included and improved in ~CSSU, also see ~matan, or http://maemo.cloud-7.de/mirrors/matan/my.svgalib.org/repo/Modified_Hildon_Desktop.html DO NOT INSTALL MHD when you have CSSU!! the CSSU version is more recent! |
| 23:07.01 | sunshavi | Could I search for "openssl" or "red hat"? |
| 23:07.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues redhat |
| 23:07.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | supports regex as well |
| 23:08.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues redhat.*ssl |
| 23:08.30 | *** join/#maemo hellekin (hellekin@gateway/shell/gnu/x-iyfdneeprfxjjphm) |
| 23:08.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues redhat*ssl |
| 23:08.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues ssl*redhat |
| 23:08.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues ssl.*redhat |
| 23:08.50 | sunshavi | ~listvalues ssl |
| 23:08.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh |
| 23:09.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues " ssl " |
| 23:09.23 | sunshavi | ok, be right back on a few mins. |
| 23:10.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~stunnel |
| 23:10.01 | infobot | Universal SSL tunnel. URL: http://mike.daewoo.com.pl/computer/stunnel/ |
| 23:10.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues " ssl .*URL" |
| 23:10.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues " ssl *URL" |
| 23:10.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues " ssl *URL*mike" |
| 23:20.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | apropos, WTF a URL is this?! http://mike.daewoo.com.pl |
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| 23:25.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>Unknown Host<< thought as much |
| 23:25.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo stunnel |
| 23:25.27 | infobot | stunnel -- it has been requested 3 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 15m 26s ago. |
| 23:25.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | err yes? |
| 23:25.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget stuannel |
| 23:25.53 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i didn't have anything called 'stuannel' to forget |
| 23:26.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget stunnel |
| 23:26.01 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i forgot stunnel |
| 23:26.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | must have been a factoid from 1999 |
| 23:28.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo safegossip |
| 23:28.54 | infobot | safegossip -- it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008. |
| 23:29.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | tzzz |
| 23:29.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo joerg |
| 23:29.22 | infobot | joerg -- created by jOERG <n=jr-N810@p5493F5D9.dip.t-dialin.net> at Thu Oct 23 12:00:02 2008 (2758 days); last modified at Fri Oct 3 21:44:08 2014 by DocScrutinizer05!~saturn@openmoko/engineers/joerg; it has been requested 79 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 3d 37m 26s ago; it has been locked by jOERG. |
| 23:29.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo jonama |
| 23:29.59 | infobot | jonama -- it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008. |
| 23:30.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | really now? |
| 23:30.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo itiss |
| 23:30.31 | infobot | there's no such factoid as itiss, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 23:30.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo itissl |
| 23:30.35 | infobot | itissl -- it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008. |
| 23:30.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | *cough* |
| 23:31.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo apache-ssl-jserv |
| 23:31.22 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: no extra info on apache-ssl-jserv |
| 23:31.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | wow! |
| 23:31.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo slush |
| 23:31.56 | infobot | slush -- it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008. |
| 23:32.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo raven ssl module |
| 23:32.32 | infobot | raven ssl module -- it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008. |
| 23:32.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | LO |
| 23:33.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | L |
| 23:34.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | (kbd defect) |
| 23:36.41 | *** join/#maemo shamus (~shmaus@ip-206-192-195-210.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) |
| 23:42.00 | sunshavi | ok. thanks |
