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| 01:42.14 | sunshavi | merlin_1991: I have a question about bluez 4.99 |
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| 03:12.49 | Oksanaa | chess-ui: played one game till checkmate, saved it, clicked Restart, played another game till checkmate, clicked Save, second game overwrote first one |
| 03:13.23 | Oksanaa | Not User-Friendly At All, nufaa |
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| 06:00.23 | Vajb | Oksana: did you beat chess-ui? |
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| 06:09.19 | Oksana | In what sense? Physically impossible |
| 06:09.36 | Oksana | And chess-wise, gnu-chess is unbeatable for most people |
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| 07:12.21 | kerio | most chess engines are, surely |
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| 07:24.29 | Vajb | i meant chess-wise and can agree that it is unbeatable by so far. |
| 07:38.09 | KotCzarny | only if you played it against itself and never had any other outcome than tie |
| 07:44.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehe, one Nokia manager insisted in adding a particularly "easy" preset to maemo chess, because of that :-) |
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| 07:47.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | pali, freemangordon: would you maybe like to talk to parazyd in #devuan about (and then (help to) do) a devuan-based maemo build on their infra? |
| 07:47.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | just an idea |
| 07:48.08 | kerio | i don't think maemo has any relation with debian at the moment |
| 07:48.28 | kerio | is there a devuan etch |
| 07:48.38 | parazyd | you would have a new systemd-free upstream |
| 07:48.38 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: well, afaik Pali is busy, and I am preparing IR TX patches for upstreaming, so don;t have much of a time as well |
| 07:48.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, for now it's mainly about kernel, so it is irrelevant if we call it "maemo build" or "N900-devuan" |
| 07:48.58 | parazyd | DocScrutinizer05: we still didn't put a armv6+armel target afaik for builds |
| 07:49.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | parazyd: yep |
| 07:49.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's why I suggested you and freemangordon and pali join forces |
| 07:49.46 | kerio | is there an armv5tel devuan build yet |
| 07:49.55 | kerio | for ceres |
| 07:49.58 | parazyd | only armhf |
| 07:50.02 | freemangordon | parazyd: which kernel do you use? |
| 07:50.11 | parazyd | ceres has some problems, not able to install it now |
| 07:50.13 | parazyd | try ascii |
| 07:50.18 | parazyd | freemangordon: 4.4.8, why? |
| 07:50.23 | parazyd | note, i don't use devuan |
| 07:51.11 | freemangordon | parazyd: because 4.6 and (hopefully) 4.7 will have waaay better support of n900 |
| 07:51.25 | parazyd | :) |
| 07:51.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | courtesy freemangordon and pali |
| 07:51.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 07:51.45 | parazyd | \o/ |
| 07:51.52 | freemangordon | I am not sure 4.4.8 will have regulator fixes backported |
| 07:52.49 | freemangordon | and those are mandatory for stable peripheral devices operation |
| 07:52.52 | freemangordon | just noting |
| 07:53.00 | parazyd | mhm |
| 07:53.07 | parazyd | well, so far so good for me |
| 07:53.24 | parazyd | but really looking forward to "waaay better support" :)) |
| 07:54.14 | KotCzarny | is it me or if this mainline-n900 idea gets finished, prices of the n900 jump higher? |
| 07:54.21 | kerio | LUL |
| 07:54.40 | kerio | i should probably buy a new one actually |
| 07:54.44 | kerio | the lack of wifi is becoming annoying |
| 07:55.14 | kerio | and at this point it's either another n900 or an iphone 6s |
| 07:55.15 | freemangordon | parazyd: go to kernel.org and search for Ivaylo Dimitrov in linux-next :) |
| 07:55.22 | KotCzarny | can nfc be hacked to forward wifi? |
| 07:55.42 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: n speeds I guess ;D |
| 07:55.49 | kerio | or iphone 6s plus a pyra maybe |
| 07:56.13 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 07:56.41 | freemangordon | GF wants attention, /me is going AFK |
| 07:56.45 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 07:56.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | o/ |
| 07:57.09 | KotCzarny | name your girlfriend iphone gf |
| 07:57.26 | KotCzarny | or my dearest droid |
| 07:59.11 | parazyd | freemangordon: <borat>very nice!</borat> |
| 08:00.39 | parazyd | i'm really looking forward to maemo6 or whatever you wanna call it |
| 08:02.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | for sure not maemo6 since that's a moniker for harmattan |
| 08:02.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 08:02.43 | KotCzarny | maemo5-cssu edition |
| 08:03.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe freemaemo1 ;-) |
| 08:03.13 | parazyd | :) |
| 08:03.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | (harmattan) fubar in my book |
| 08:03.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~aegis |
| 08:03.57 | infobot | http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Harmattan:Developer_Library/Developing_for_Harmattan/Harmattan_security/Security_guide , or "The purpose of this framework is: ... to make sure that the platform meets the requirements set by third party software that requires a safe execution environment.", or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Computing#Criticism, or http://en.qi-hardware.com/w/images/1/10/ME_382_LockedUpTechnology2.gif |
| 08:04.04 | kerio | maemo 7 |
| 08:04.16 | kerio | following the microsoft tradition of skipping problematic versions |
| 08:04.28 | parazyd | maemo9001 |
| 08:04.44 | kerio | maemo jessie? |
| 08:04.50 | KotCzarny | maemo-n900 |
| 08:04.52 | kerio | (the planet) |
| 08:04.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | so let's make this maemo16.1 (or 17.1) |
| 08:05.12 | parazyd | maemo-proper |
| 08:05.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-D |
| 08:05.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess we have enough for the usual mess of project name vs public name vs abandoned but popular misnomers ;-P |
| 08:06.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | maemo-dev1 |
| 08:07.04 | ceene | cool maemo |
| 08:07.06 | ceene | better maemo |
| 08:07.06 | kerio | dank maems |
| 08:07.07 | parazyd | ^_^ |
| 08:07.23 | ceene | moema |
| 08:07.35 | ceene | meamo |
| 08:07.48 | parazyd | meamo sounds dank |
| 08:07.49 | ceene | meamo -> me amo transaltes to "i love myself" in spanish |
| 08:08.00 | parazyd | ahahaah |
| 08:08.07 | ceene | translates |
| 08:08.57 | KotCzarny | or just devuan-n900.1 |
| 08:09.23 | parazyd | devuan900 |
| 08:09.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's a derivative :-) |
| 08:10.08 | ceene | i'll keep maemo name |
| 08:10.11 | ceene | freemaemo sounds good |
| 08:10.17 | ceene | is clear |
| 08:10.30 | KotCzarny | freemaemogordon-paliedition |
| 08:10.34 | ceene | lol |
| 08:10.52 | ceene | linux+things |
| 08:11.07 | KotCzarny | my little maemo |
| 08:11.22 | ceene | ROFL! |
| 08:12.13 | KotCzarny | but more seriously, unless it gets backported to 770/n8x0 it should differentiate from maemo itself |
| 08:12.31 | bencoh | ? |
| 08:12.44 | KotCzarny | so it would be maemo/something |
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| 08:15.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | driving devels of "sort(1)" mad, with maemo05, 005, 0005 for the release candidates, then maemo50, 500 aso for the incremental final versions ;-) |
| 08:15.53 | kerio | sort -n |
| 08:15.53 | kerio | ez |
| 08:19.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, and you could use grep to find all files relating to e.g. the 000 version, like maemo0005 and maemo5000 |
| 08:20.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | maemo5-triple-0 |
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| 08:20.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/0/oh/ |
| 08:20.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems to feel silly |
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| 08:23.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | <3 rsync |
| 08:23.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | sent 109 bytes received 1,105 bytes 809.33 bytes/sec |
| 08:23.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | total size is 10,549,943,527 speedup is 8,690,233.55 |
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| 09:28.20 | ceene | i've just received an Arty board |
| 09:31.32 | sunshavi | kerio: use n900 as panu and have ur wireless connection. If that works I could move inmediately to that version whatever it is called |
| 09:31.57 | kerio | i do that |
| 09:31.59 | kerio | it's just annoying |
| 09:32.04 | kerio | and bluetooth pan is hella slow |
| 09:32.40 | sunshavi | kerio: how many kbps in my case it is 100 kbps bluetooth access point is the n800 |
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| 09:51.15 | zamn900 | DocScrutinizer05, hello you |
| 09:51.29 | zamn900 | what's up with whatsapp? |
| 09:51.41 | zamn900 | afyk |
| 09:51.55 | zamn900 | afayk |
| 09:51.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | pleaase see chanlog |
| 09:52.03 | zamn900 | uff |
| 09:52.14 | zamn900 | infobot, what's chanlog |
| 09:52.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | also I'm not involved into any whatsoup stuff |
| 09:52.26 | zamn900 | soup? |
| 09:52.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | /topic |
| 09:52.31 | zamn900 | rofl |
| 09:53.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: chanlog |
| 09:53.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't know chanlog it seems |
| 09:53.36 | zamn900 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:53.53 | zamn900 | infobot, learn chanlog please |
| 09:54.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys chanlog |
| 09:54.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~#maemo chanlog is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog |
| 09:54.42 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 09:54.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~chanlog |
| 09:54.49 | infobot | rumour has it, chanlog is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog |
| 09:54.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~log |
| 09:55.00 | infobot | official maemo logs are at http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog |
| 09:55.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh |
| 09:55.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, #maemo chanlog is <reply>see log |
| 09:55.36 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 09:55.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~chanlog |
| 09:55.41 | infobot | official maemo logs are at http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog |
| 09:56.55 | zamn900 | t h a n k y U infobot |
| 09:57.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | she doesn't kno 1337speak |
| 09:58.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you want to thank her, use proper english words |
| 09:59.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | thanks infobot |
| 09:59.13 | infobot | no problem, DocScrutinizer05 |
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| 10:24.54 | zamn900 | infobot serve me the chanlog |
| 10:24.54 | infobot | ACTION cooks up a 6 course meal, made from the very best ingredients and containing all the favorite foods of me the chanlog, and then serves it to me the chanlog on the best china & using the best crystal and silver |
| 10:25.13 | zamn900 | that's not it |
| 10:25.23 | zamn900 | call the chef infobot |
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| 12:15.34 | Oksanaa | do any irrlicht-examples work on maemo 5? not to my knowledge... pure virtual method called, terminate called without an active exception, Aborted |
| 12:20.25 | Oksanaa | and, gnugo needs better icon for its shortcut. Having GUI would be even nicer, but that would be a separate package |
| 12:22.23 | Oksanaa | also, isn't it poor habit to put executables into /opt/package/bin, instead of /opt/bin or /opt/usr/bin or other well-known directory? |
| 12:22.54 | Oksanaa | is just annoyed as user at having to type full path to elf, instead of typing binary's name |
| 12:24.53 | kerio | /opt has no habit |
| 12:25.04 | kerio | but honestly, /opt/packagename is probably better |
| 12:26.55 | Oksanaa | why? it's not like it's hidden file, to be used by system only and never seen by user |
| 12:28.59 | Oksanaa | well, if gnugo package had either its own gnugo.desktop , or a gui package with gnugogui.desktop , I would not have been complaining that much |
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| 13:57.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | any binary in /opt is supposed to have a symlink in /usr/bin |
| 13:57.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | literaly any |
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| 13:59.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless it's similar to "lib" executables |
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