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| 01:21.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~#devuan mirrors |
| 01:21.45 | infobot | [#devuan mirrors] http://devuan.voyanet.org/ http://devuan-temporary-mirror.almesberger.net/ (both no SSL aka HTTPS!) |
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| 01:23.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | plus sth to join in: https://beta.devuan.org/devuan_jessie_1.0.0-beta.torrent |
| 01:24.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | (that's all distro flavors, so ~10GB!) |
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| 02:50.33 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 07:34.24 | fastlane | hey all ! |
| 07:34.45 | fastlane | so i want to know if i can totally remove the screen timeout from n900 |
| 07:34.58 | fastlane | of maybe make it 30 minutes or so, i just want the screen to turn off |
| 07:35.01 | fastlane | thanks. |
| 07:35.37 | fastlane | i just *do not* want the screen to turn off i meant |
| 07:37.37 | KotCzarny | run mplayer in the background? |
| 07:38.00 | KotCzarny | write a simple script that will prevent screen sleep ever few minutes? |
| 07:38.24 | fastlane | mplayer will be battery drain no? |
| 07:38.55 | KotCzarny | maybe, pause it? |
| 07:39.06 | fastlane | hm |
| 07:39.11 | KotCzarny | enabling screen would be bigger battery drain tho |
| 07:39.24 | fastlane | what about the script, |
| 07:39.40 | fastlane | yes but not that bad, |
| 07:39.57 | KotCzarny | you bet. screen on is one of the biggest battery drains |
| 07:39.59 | KotCzarny | https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=54554 |
| 07:40.17 | KotCzarny | see the line at the bottom |
| 07:40.34 | fastlane | i wsa thinking that screen on with no major app executing its code VS screen on with mplayer executing |
| 07:40.41 | KotCzarny | just run it inside: while [ 1 ]; do ..that line.. ; sleep 55; done |
| 07:42.06 | fastlane | ok |
| 07:42.21 | fastlane | just recalled looking at the forums, havnt been there for a long time |
| 07:42.37 | fastlane | has neo900 become a reality? |
| 07:42.56 | KotCzarny | joerg says 2016q3 |
| 07:43.57 | fastlane | oh i see still in development neo900.org |
| 07:48.49 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: that torrent doesn't have any webseeds .-. |
| 07:48.55 | kerio | i'm only downloading it at 80MB/s |
| 07:49.33 | kerio | i'm pretty sure that i'm literally eating all the bandwidth right now |
| 07:49.54 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 07:50.29 | kerio | i wish i lived in a datacenter ._. |
| 07:50.47 | KotCzarny | too arid |
| 07:50.54 | kerio | alright, seeding now |
| 07:50.56 | KotCzarny | you would be sick in a few weeks |
| 07:51.05 | KotCzarny | not to mention noise |
| 07:51.21 | kerio | hm i should've probably put the download directory in a separate dataset |
| 07:51.55 | kerio | why am i only uploading at 100KB/s |
| 07:52.09 | kerio | *kB |
| 07:56.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | no idea, I also sometimes wonder why only 20% of my allowed upload BW are used |
| 07:56.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's very fluctuating |
| 07:56.55 | fastlane | maybe th ISP manipulates the bandwidth |
| 07:57.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | fastlane: install simple brightness applet |
| 07:57.21 | fastlane | ok |
| 07:57.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | matter of one push&hold of the rectangle at left side of the slider |
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| 08:50.52 | kerio | alright i'm upping at 400kB/s |
| 08:52.40 | kerio | i'd also download that on my home connection but i actually have torrents i have to seed there :> |
| 08:58.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | how would I seed an existing dir from cmdline, so it can get found under same name as the others seeding same dir? |
| 08:59.26 | kerio | ? |
| 08:59.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, why do torrent seeding when people can do decent download? use http://devuan-temporary-mirror.almesberger.net/ |
| 09:00.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't make sesne to wast my traffic budget with torrent chitchat |
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| 09:03.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | just seeding at a 6 to 20 KiB/s while the uplink could do 80 |
| 09:03.20 | kerio | yeah but what's the overhead |
| 09:03.24 | kerio | typically clients can tell you |
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| 09:04.57 | kerio | ok, uploading at close to 1MB/s now |
| 09:05.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | strange, torrents don't like me, eh? ;-) |
| 09:06.21 | kerio | your uplink can do 80kB/s, that's pretty laughable anyway |
| 09:06.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | so what? |
| 09:06.54 | kerio | i'd say don't bother, leave the machines in the datacenters to upload |
| 09:06.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's 50% of the 1,5Mbit I got |
| 09:07.35 | kerio | http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5289801146 feels good man |
| 09:07.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh |
| 09:07.57 | kerio | don't you have one or more servers |
| 09:07.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://devuan-temporary-mirror.almesberger.net/ feels good |
| 09:08.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | guess why I asked how to torrent-seed from cmdline |
| 09:09.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | but I think I don't bother |
| 09:09.09 | luke-jr | I'd help seed, but my upstream is like 10 k/s, and downstream is packetlossy |
| 09:09.37 | kerio | surely you'd just tell the bittorrent client to "download" in that directory |
| 09:09.44 | kerio | the torrent is called devuan_jessie_beta |
| 09:09.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | why torrent when I can use same backbone and traffic for decent fast upload? |
| 09:10.10 | luke-jr | is the torrent included in the torrent? :P |
| 09:10.23 | kerio | that would be interesting |
| 09:10.28 | luke-jr | DocScrutinizer05: so your upload gets combined with others' |
| 09:10.32 | luke-jr | kerio: it's impossible :P |
| 09:10.38 | kerio | not really |
| 09:10.47 | luke-jr | kerio: torrent files include hashes of the data |
| 09:10.49 | kerio | just need a preimage attack on whatever checksum is used |
| 09:11.06 | kerio | (LUL) |
| 09:11.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | luke-jr: I'm not interested. So are those that download from that box, the backbone is prolly fatter than any of your downlinks |
| 09:11.16 | luke-jr | "oh, just preimage a cryptographic hash" |
| 09:11.23 | kerio | ezpz |
| 09:11.42 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: to be fair, i'm offering like 800kB/s in upload that nobody would've ever used |
| 09:11.49 | kerio | because who the hell knows about my unofficial mirror? |
| 09:12.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | mine is official |
| 09:12.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | and it's offering 1Gb backbone |
| 09:13.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | 100Mb warranted |
| 09:13.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | and not a single download so far |
| 09:13.55 | kerio | does devuan have a geographically aware redirector |
| 09:14.07 | kerio | like httpredir.debian.org |
| 09:15.58 | KotCzarny | kerio, is your link some kind of dsl? |
| 09:16.09 | kerio | yeah that's my house |
| 09:16.25 | KotCzarny | not bad uplink |
| 09:16.42 | KotCzarny | though i have recently update my poor 5/5 to 30/30 for 3usd more |
| 09:16.48 | KotCzarny | *updated |
| 09:16.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't think so |
| 09:16.57 | kerio | i'm paying 40 moneys for that |
| 09:17.05 | kerio | (currently discounted at 30 moneys) |
| 09:17.08 | KotCzarny | im paing ~10eur for that |
| 09:17.14 | kerio | plus 10 moneys for free calls |
| 09:17.14 | KotCzarny | *paying |
| 09:17.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | soon to come: neo900_devuanfiles.dev-1.org - which is the same server |
| 09:17.27 | kerio | yeah but you don't live in what's effectively a third world country |
| 09:17.44 | KotCzarny | um, yeah, but its effectively second world country :P |
| 09:18.03 | kerio | KotCzarny: formally second world county, right? |
| 09:18.15 | KotCzarny | depends on the view |
| 09:19.29 | kerio | nato/varsaw pact/none of the above |
| 09:19.45 | KotCzarny | .pl |
| 09:19.54 | kerio | then third world became "developing country" or something like that |
| 09:20.24 | KotCzarny | i think of africa when you say 'third world' |
| 09:20.37 | kerio | yeah that's what's meant by third world today |
| 09:20.52 | KotCzarny | and some remote islands |
| 09:20.58 | kerio | but initially the third world was just a geographical statement, pretty much |
| 09:21.25 | kerio | places not under the direct influence of the US or the soviet union |
| 09:21.34 | KotCzarny | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World |
| 09:21.43 | KotCzarny | yeah |
| 09:23.35 | KotCzarny | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_World |
| 09:23.36 | KotCzarny | wow |
| 09:23.52 | kerio | Sub-populations existing in a First World country, but with the living standards of those of a Third World, or developing country |
| 09:23.56 | kerio | alright that's definetely italy |
| 09:24.03 | kerio | (jk) |
| 09:24.06 | KotCzarny | ;) |
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| 09:33.00 | KotCzarny | hrm, build_dh surely takes a lot of time on arm |
| 09:33.20 | KotCzarny | 40 minutes already |
| 09:33.57 | KotCzarny | unrelated but.. https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13062421_1127681407253225_3959609311058674706_n.jpg?oh=ec22d6f6c7bfa388d5471dcd26bf0b4b&oe=57A3CC77 |
| 09:36.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wiki thrid world |
| 09:36.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wiki third world |
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| 16:33.38 | zZap-X | can the maemo jabber client send and recieve media? |
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| 16:46.00 | kerio | i'm at 1.58 in the devuan_jessie_beta torrent |
| 16:46.27 | kerio | \o/ |
| 16:46.33 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: how much have you upped |
| 16:51.56 | zamn900 | since zZap-X xmpp can videocall why asking that |
| 16:53.13 | zamn900 | it's not that the point, but is to loose bonds with whatsapp network... and why dumbly bother to imagine alternative with even jabber |
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| 18:39.34 | Sicelo | zZap-X: no. not sure if it's modifiable |
| 18:39.49 | zZap-X | aye ok |
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| 19:54.51 | zZap-X | i cant get the Join Chat room feature to work on N900, when i enter a name, it just spins |
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| 21:05.40 | zZap-X | i rebooted phone, now it works :D |
| 21:05.50 | zZap-X | the N900 lives on |
| 21:06.43 | Sicelo | hehe |
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| 22:26.39 | zZap-X | anyone recommend a decent twitter client for n900? |
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| 23:36.01 | parazyd | zZap-X: lately i've started using bitlbee for twitter |
| 23:36.09 | parazyd | dunno if that's an option for you |
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