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| 00:07.43 | Linkandzelda | DocScrutinizer05: i installed bash4 and changed my passwd file to use /bin/bash on both user and root, now im unable to boot. im guessing reflash needed? |
| 00:09.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, changing user's account is terribly cumbersome since the device will user user's account to boot, and when you change shell there, it won't boot anymore since boot (rather: hildon X11 crankup) depends on busybox mess |
| 00:10.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | you however can fix that 'easily' if you still can access the device, either via ssh login or worst case via rescueOS |
| 00:10.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~rescueos |
| 00:10.08 | infobot | it has been said that rescueos is http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/ |
| 00:11.13 | Linkandzelda | well i only just reflashed a couple hours ago so its no big deal to do it again, i guess |
| 00:11.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc cssu boot should trow you to a console finally when system hangs in a bootloop |
| 00:11.36 | Linkandzelda | i remember doing it though, on my old one |
| 00:11.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep, reflash is easy |
| 00:12.24 | Linkandzelda | yea it worked fine on my other device |
| 00:12.32 | Linkandzelda | etc passwd is identical |
| 00:12.42 | Linkandzelda | only difference is bash3 vs bash4 |
| 00:13.13 | Linkandzelda | i'll leave this one boot looping in case it brings me to a terminal |
| 00:13.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: the problem iirc is: a) busybox has some non-standard behavior in some of its 'applets' on which some scripts rely (like formats of `ps` output, cmdline options etc) |
| 00:14.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | and b) bash has none of those messybox applets built in, so you need all those available as external commands in $PATH at any time during boot |
| 00:14.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | and c) /etc/shells iirc |
| 00:14.22 | Linkandzelda | hmm |
| 00:14.34 | Linkandzelda | so how can i make ssh and xterm open to bash by default? |
| 00:14.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | bootlooping only brings you to a terminal after max 10 reboots (prolly rather 3) - if at all |
| 00:15.51 | Linkandzelda | its on the 5 dots only |
| 00:15.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd add some if "is_ssh; then..." to messybox initscript |
| 00:16.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | (5 dots) do you have ssh configured? |
| 00:16.32 | Linkandzelda | ssh isnt letting me in either |
| 00:16.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | might already be up and running, to log in via wlan |
| 00:16.46 | Linkandzelda | i have open ssh server, was using it before i rebooted |
| 00:17.02 | Linkandzelda | but the ip isnt responding |
| 00:17.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, then you're out of luck, either reflash or use rescueOS |
| 00:17.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | or BM |
| 00:17.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | BM should offer a terminal quite early in boot process |
| 00:18.18 | Linkandzelda | yea, would be great if i installed backup menu hehe |
| 00:18.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | you prolly could even selectively restore /etc/passwd via BM |
| 00:18.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing |
| 00:18.59 | infobot | i heard maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline |
| 00:19.27 | Linkandzelda | am i right in thinking that i can use backupmenu on my current device, then restore onto my new and keep things as they are? kernels etc? |
| 00:19.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | don't worry, many users fell for this |
| 00:19.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | except kernel all, yes |
| 00:20.12 | Linkandzelda | infact i'll ask a different question, thats the quickest way to do a full clone? |
| 00:20.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | you must make sure your target device has same kernel already installed, like the donor device |
| 00:20.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, quickest way |
| 00:20.51 | Linkandzelda | i have kernel power on current device |
| 00:21.01 | Linkandzelda | so i'd need to install that i guess |
| 00:21.11 | Linkandzelda | would a clone also install cssu stuff? |
| 00:21.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | then install same kernel on new device before restoring BM backup |
| 00:22.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, it's a full clone, except kernel. That's why you need same kernel since otherwise the kernel *modules* in rootfs won't match -> borked, reflash |
| 00:23.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | I actually did that cloning a 3 or 4 tiomes now |
| 00:23.57 | Linkandzelda | ok |
| 00:24.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's why my system's "history" goes back to pre-2010 |
| 00:24.40 | Linkandzelda | so you basically moved to and from different devices over and over? |
| 00:24.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 00:26.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | and even when I had an oppsie like you do now, I simply restored a backup and thus the reflash didn't really show up in "histroy" |
| 00:26.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | oopsie* |
| 00:27.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think I did *one* clean reflash to upgrade from PR1.2 to PR1.3, a half a year after PR1.3 came out |
| 00:28.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | never since restarted with a clean install |
| 00:28.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | always used to restore my backups, either on same or on new device |
| 00:28.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | I tested clean installs on other devices, e.g. for testing CSSU |
| 00:29.11 | Linkandzelda | this has got to be the easiest flash process on any device i ever owned, and i owned like 30+ other phones in the past |
| 00:29.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehe, thanks |
| 00:29.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing-cmdline |
| 00:29.40 | infobot | [flashing-cmdline] http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2016-04-09.log.html#t2016-04-09T01:18:12 |
| 00:30.11 | Linkandzelda | aaand finished |
| 00:30.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-D |
| 00:31.00 | Linkandzelda | now if i play my cards right i should never have to do this again xD |
| 00:31.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
| 00:32.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, you might need to do it if the system fails to boot up |
| 00:32.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | *comletely* |
| 00:32.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you can get into BM, you should be safe |
| 00:32.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | and BM gets called very very early in boot process |
| 00:33.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | only bootloader and kernel hiccups could actually stop it |
| 00:33.30 | Linkandzelda | going to install bm and kernelpower now then will attempt a clone |
| 00:34.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | and edits in some base system init scripts and binaries, like ... shell, /sbin/preinit |
| 00:34.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | a general rule: before *any* restore there always comes a backup - to save the current state |
| 00:35.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | so in case the restore goes awry, you can restore to pre-restore state |
| 00:36.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | (exception to the ruke: restores to recover from failed restores, you usually don't wnat to archive a failed-restore state of system) |
| 00:36.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | rule* |
| 00:36.58 | zZap-X | shall we have a competition on how long we can keep uptime on our N900? |
| 00:37.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, I win this |
| 00:37.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | I had 480 days uptime on my devel device |
| 00:37.28 | zZap-X | Nokia-N900:~$ uptime |
| 00:37.29 | zZap-X | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.38 | zZap-X | jeeze |
| 00:38.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | ramdom recent value of daily phone: |
| 00:38.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# uptime |
| 00:38.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.27 | zZap-X | 19 days? |
| 00:38.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | err yup, pretty normal |
| 00:38.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | rather on the short side |
| 00:38.56 | zZap-X | not bad |
| 00:39.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't boot my phone more frequently than maybe 6 to 8 times a year |
| 00:39.50 | zZap-X | im gonna try and see how long i can keep it without rebooting |
| 00:40.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess last reboot was to finally do a BM backup again ;-) |
| 00:40.05 | zZap-X | have to make sure it never runs out of battery |
| 00:40.16 | zZap-X | oh yeah backup menu |
| 00:40.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah wait, last reboot was actually due to battery-down while not at home |
| 00:41.03 | zZap-X | make sure that doesnt happen again |
| 00:41.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | it shut down 50m away from my flat door, while returning home |
| 00:41.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think I forgot to disable navi, or sth |
| 00:42.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | unlocked it to actually shut down navi app, and that was too much for the weak battery ;-P |
| 00:42.31 | Linkandzelda | im trying to come up with a name like IroN900 |
| 00:42.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | screen went bright for a 3s and then it shut down |
| 00:43.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: T900 is also used already ;-) |
| 00:56.10 | Linkandzelda | DocScrutinizer05: loaded backupmenu on my current device and its stuck at "chrooting..." for 5 mins |
| 00:56.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
| 00:57.08 | Linkandzelda | im gonna pull the battery |
| 00:59.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | I wonder what you did, in detail |
| 01:00.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | tbh I never noticed a "chrooting..." in BM context |
| 01:00.08 | Linkandzelda | i turned it off, held open the keyboard, turned it on, selected backupmenu, waited |
| 01:00.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm |
| 01:00.39 | Linkandzelda | this is my old one |
| 01:01.02 | Linkandzelda | stuck on this http://cl.ly/0k3W3v3v3O1L |
| 01:01.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | wtf? |
| 01:02.16 | Linkandzelda | i just finished installing bm on the new one, going to open it |
| 01:02.46 | Linkandzelda | works fine on that one |
| 01:02.55 | Linkandzelda | maybe i'll try to reinstall it on the other |
| 01:03.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | aah BM tries to create a chroot with some tools like sshd etc in it |
| 01:03.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | for that it needs the tools to be available, to start with |
| 01:04.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's a tad unfortunate that robbiethe1st didn't catch any errors that may occur during that tools copying and chrooting |
| 01:05.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | after all aiui the whole chroot thing is only needed for advanced features like "ssh into device" and "enter console" etc |
| 01:05.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | I recal there been discussions and tweaks around that whole thing, BM trying to ship the tools bundled rather than copying them from plain system, or whatever |
| 01:06.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~bm |
| 01:06.08 | infobot | backupmenu is, like, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975, or one-click install handling dependency issues: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/BM.install |
| 01:06.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | that tmo thread should have details |
| 01:06.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | idly wonders how Linkandzelda installed BM to old device |
| 01:07.43 | Linkandzelda | well i think i'll just remake this device on the new one, then clone it to the old one and use that as the restore point for a "clean" setup |
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| 01:36.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | a pite: >>t900:-# uptime --> 04:12:15 up 236 days, 11:59 ...<< and now I need to reboot since I experience weird WLAN issues with that device in my network: >>26.04.1603:30:14WLAN-Gerät wird abgemeldet (2,4 GHz): WLAN-Gerät antwortet nicht. MAC-Adresse: A8:7E:33:CD:F0:E3. (#0302).<< |
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| 01:46.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed the device needed some reboot >= needed_action > (/etc/init.d/wlancond restart) |
| 01:51.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm syslog too large? http://paste.opensuse.org/45777554 |
| 02:00.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | LOL, latst newest hottest intellignece(¡): there are botnets on twitter, and moods/trends in internet are not real |
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| 02:01.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | peeps, it took you how long now to realize THAT? |
| 02:03.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | I got sth for you: there are not only bots on twitter, e.g. Russia even employs professional human trolls for that purpose |
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| 08:06.33 | zGrr | moin :) |
| 08:08.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | moin |
| 08:27.04 | Vajb | does anyone use hamster filer? There is option to open files with certain programs. Like if i put there "mplayer -ao pulse" it opens file in mplayer, but what to include that it launches terminal and runs mplayer via terminal and not just launch mplayer on the background? |
| 08:29.44 | kerio | osso-xterm -something mplayer -ao pulse? |
| 08:30.36 | kerio | possibly even just osso-xterm mplayer -ao pulse |
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| 08:31.55 | Vajb | nope. It just pops terminal and closes without playing any |
| 08:34.06 | Vajb | osso-xterm "sh -c 'cd """$(dirname ""%s"")"""; sh'" that is the string in program which opens terminal in that directory the file is |
| 08:34.36 | Vajb | maybe that gives away some hint im not aware of? |
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| 08:41.59 | KotCzarny | osso-terminal -h ? |
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| 08:42.52 | KotCzarny | also, probably you are missing path, sh is in /bin so it gets found, try adding: /usr/bin/mplayer as a command |
| 08:45.29 | Vajb | -h does nothing and adding usr/bin/mplayer pops xterm shortly but not playing |
| 08:46.29 | KotCzarny | does it pass file name as an arg? probably %s (from your example) |
| 08:46.43 | Vajb | so i guess there has to be some command to execute mplayer after xterm is launched |
| 08:47.43 | Vajb | yes with "mplayer -ao pulse %s" it starts playback in the bacground, but i wanna see it in terminal to be able to fast forward and pause |
| 08:49.59 | kerio | osso-xterm /usr/bin/mplayer -ao pulse %s |
| 08:50.24 | Vajb | ok when i put mplayer -ao pulse instead of dirname it started to play file via terminal but not showing any info |
| 08:50.54 | Vajb | kerio: just pops up terminal and closes |
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| 08:51.22 | kerio | oh hm |
| 08:51.27 | kerio | "osso-xterm /usr/bin/mplayer -ao pulse %s" |
| 08:51.29 | kerio | er fuck |
| 08:51.33 | kerio | osso-xterm "/usr/bin/mplayer -ao pulse %s" |
| 08:52.31 | Vajb | osso-xterm "sh -c 'cd """$(mplayer -ao pulse ""%s"")"""; sh'" |
| 08:53.03 | Vajb | that's the string that pops terminal starts playing but gives no info of the file playing. Can pause tho |
| 08:53.45 | kerio | no that's not how it works ._. |
| 08:54.43 | kerio | osso-xterm "sh -c 'mplayer -ao pulse ""%s""'" |
| 08:54.49 | Vajb | also with " " ur last idea just pops terminal and closes |
| 08:55.09 | kerio | so that's "" "" around %s, then close ' then close " |
| 08:55.47 | Vajb | ok lets try |
| 08:56.51 | Vajb | works! |
| 08:56.55 | kerio | woop |
| 08:57.02 | Vajb | thx a lot kerio! |
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| 11:40.14 | Oksanaa | Are marbles an open-source game? If so, could somebody please work "save game" into the code? |
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| 14:25.47 | ceene | argh |
| 14:25.57 | ceene | my two numbers have been banned |
| 14:26.21 | ceene | ican't even test things now |
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| 14:34.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | there must be test accounts (aka 'numbers') you could use to test authentication and communication to a serverside test facility |
| 14:35.34 | ceene | none that i know of |
| 14:35.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | like SIP "echo123" or "10000" |
| 14:36.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | if they don't have anything like that, they are really not worth bothering about their service |
| 14:37.15 | ceene | they may have, but if they do, it's a secret user with a secret password |
| 14:37.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm |
| 14:37.31 | ceene | they win't publish their internal test users |
| 14:37.42 | ceene | s/win/won/ |
| 14:39.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | there also must be ways to unban an account, no? |
| 14:40.20 | ceene | basically... nope |
| 14:40.44 | ceene | i can write them and cry and they won't even answer back |
| 14:40.56 | ceene | with a bit of luck i've only been banned for a couple days |
| 14:41.06 | ceene | worst case is 60 days |
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| 14:54.54 | KotCzarny | ceene: https://blog.heckel.xyz/2013/07/07/send-whatsapp-messages-via-php-script-using-whatsapi/ |
| 14:55.05 | KotCzarny | but i guess it's old |
| 14:55.44 | KotCzarny | https://github.com/venomous0x/WhatsAPI/ |
| 14:55.46 | KotCzarny | hehe |
| 14:56.31 | ceene | yep |
| 14:56.36 | ceene | i got several implementations |
| 14:56.40 | ceene | i was pretty near :( |
| 14:56.47 | ceene | libwa is almost there |
| 14:56.54 | ceene | the yowsup guy has promised to look at it |
| 14:57.05 | ceene | but i don't know if he'll be able to see what's wrong |
| 14:57.26 | ceene | on parallel i was implemeting cipher onto yappari's original wa code |
| 14:57.44 | ceene | in case libwa fails, be able to try something else |
| 14:58.00 | ceene | but now that i'm banned... it's gonna be pretty hard |
| 14:58.07 | ceene | my gf is gonna lend me a number of hers |
| 14:58.17 | ceene | but once that is gone also... |
| 14:58.22 | KotCzarny | but yowsup's code works? |
| 14:58.28 | ceene | yep |
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| 15:01.52 | ceene | it's quite frustrating, because libwa code is much better structured than Yappari |
| 15:02.04 | ceene | but whereas libwa won't login, Yappari will |
| 15:02.21 | ceene | and i can't for the life of me see what's wrong |
| 15:07.39 | Vajb | well obviously messy service asks for messy code =) |
| 15:08.52 | ceene | i also don't understand why do we have to implement a full blown out xmpp client |
| 15:09.16 | ceene | i don't know much about xmpp though, so maybe the reason is WA has modified the underlying protocol |
| 15:09.37 | ceene | but for what i understand... we're implementing xmpp when that should already exist |
| 15:10.34 | ceene | it's all insane |
| 15:10.48 | ceene | i understand all of this was done by RE the protocol and all that, but... |
| 15:11.40 | ceene | this should have been just a layer on top of qxmpp |
| 15:12.04 | ceene | problem now is that this is all a race against the clock |
| 15:12.22 | ceene | what use would it make if i started it all from scratch and spend six months on a perfect implementation |
| 15:12.31 | ceene | by then everybody would have migrated to something else |
| 15:12.43 | ceene | so that'd be as good as doing nothing at all |
| 15:12.49 | Vajb | maybe android version is way to go |
| 15:13.13 | ceene | problem is the same |
| 15:13.18 | ceene | either we run original apk |
| 15:13.34 | ceene | or we have to implement the protocol |
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| 15:15.59 | Vajb | maybe android version is closer to our ecosystem than s40? |
| 15:16.11 | Vajb | what os was s40 anyway? |
| 15:16.20 | ceene | S40 version is written on java |
| 15:16.24 | ceene | so it is easily decompilable |
| 15:16.37 | Vajb | oh i see |
| 15:16.50 | ceene | android version, for what i've seen, is compiled to a binary .so |
| 15:16.59 | inz | IIRC the S40 os was boringly named Nokia OS |
| 15:16.59 | ceene | so RE is quite harder |
| 15:17.17 | ceene | i guess there must be some way to run code from that .so :) |
| 15:17.29 | ceene | not that i'd feel comfortable doing that |
| 15:18.14 | Vajb | we need someone from wassup company to give some hints about source code |
| 15:18.42 | ceene | working implementations seem to... work |
| 15:18.49 | ceene | mine is a non working implementation right now |
| 15:18.49 | ceene | :/ |
| 15:19.43 | Vajb | but victory will be sweeter after epic struggle than just struggle :) |
| 15:20.39 | Vajb | is there any opensource xmmp protocol which might excist in all phones? |
| 15:21.05 | ceene | sure, xmpp is quite standard |
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| 15:25.10 | KotCzarny | ceene: if you look for decompiler then magic word is 'ida' |
| 15:26.02 | KotCzarny | and you can probably ask local RE gurus |
| 15:26.04 | Vajb | well then. What would be best option that can be ran in maemo, lumia and android? |
| 15:26.07 | KotCzarny | jownil and friends |
| 15:26.40 | Vajb | yes i red several times that jonwil had ran out of things to do |
| 15:26.45 | KotCzarny | vajb: xmpp is open source protocol, and marketing name is 'jabber' |
| 15:26.56 | ceene | Vajb: it doesn't matter if people, friends of friends of friends aren't willing to change from whatsapp to something else |
| 15:27.00 | freemangordon | I doubt hel'' be intereted in REing watsapp :) |
| 15:27.03 | ceene | and we're not enough people to instigate that change |
| 15:27.17 | freemangordon | jonwil I mean |
| 15:27.32 | freemangordon | ceene: how big is that .so? |
| 15:27.52 | Vajb | but in time when whatsup drops support of old phones |
| 15:28.15 | Vajb | i doubt that everyone is going to buy new phone then |
| 15:29.15 | KotCzarny | https://github.com/rafa-aguilar/WhatsAPI |
| 15:30.10 | freemangordon | PHP?!? |
| 15:30.32 | KotCzarny | well, all he needs is a working code that can be rewritten |
| 15:30.48 | ceene | that's quite an old implementation |
| 15:30.50 | ceene | i got yowsup |
| 15:30.52 | ceene | which works |
| 15:31.02 | ceene | freemangordon: can't tell right now |
| 15:31.09 | ceene | i'd have to redownload that thing and look for it |
| 15:31.15 | ceene | but it probably has axolotl embedded |
| 15:31.19 | ceene | and quite a few things |
| 15:31.23 | ceene | so... big, I guess |
| 15:32.03 | freemangordon | forget about REing then, unless they forgot to strip it |
| 15:35.22 | KotCzarny | ceene, i assume you already know about mgp25/chat-api ? |
| 15:35.39 | ceene | yes |
| 15:35.50 | ceene | that's the guy who is from my city |
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| 15:36.04 | ceene | but doesn't seem very keen on socializing and helping a brother out |
| 15:36.19 | ceene | at least he is polite |
| 15:38.44 | ceene | libwa is so near! |
| 15:38.50 | ceene | but there's some stupid little thing wrong there |
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| 15:59.29 | Sicelo | ceene: if you need another number, i still have a 3rd working one ;) |
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| 16:49.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | ask council to provide numbers! there's a reason we got funds for |
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| 16:53.23 | L29Ah | funds |
| 16:53.25 | L29Ah | what funds |
| 16:53.27 | L29Ah | i need some |
| 16:53.53 | kerio | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op-LBp4sH7w |
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| 17:49.05 | ceene | Sicelo: thanks! right now i'm using a number of my gf |
| 17:49.12 | ceene | DocScrutinizer05: ditto! |
| 17:49.35 | ceene | i've registered fine using libwa |
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| 17:49.40 | ceene | faking an S40 |
| 17:49.43 | ceene | this should work |
| 17:49.45 | ceene | ¬¬ |
| 17:49.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | you shouldn't block that one too, I tellya dat bro |
| 17:50.01 | ceene | lol |
| 17:50.03 | ceene | she knows what I do |
| 17:50.14 | ceene | but i'll try very hard not to get banned |
| 17:50.34 | KotCzarny | bring her to irc? :> |
| 17:51.18 | ceene | sure |
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| 17:51.48 | ceene | there she is |
| 17:51.53 | ahycka | hi :) |
| 17:52.05 | KotCzarny | now you can pm her ;) |
| 17:52.18 | ceene | yeah, i don't need yappari to talk to her |
| 17:52.22 | ahycka | xD |
| 17:52.22 | KotCzarny | ahycka: greetings earthling |
| 17:52.34 | ceene | well, she's sitting right here, so i could always use my voice or what3ever |
| 17:52.56 | KotCzarny | ceene: pah, voice is overrated |
| 17:53.42 | ahycka | he needs me near to ask me whatsapp's code xD |
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| 17:54.54 | ceene | we used MSN a lot when we were young... |
| 17:55.20 | ceene | also irc |
| 18:00.29 | KotCzarny | no icq? ;) |
| 18:00.50 | ceene | we're not that old |
| 18:00.58 | KotCzarny | pft :P |
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| 18:17.19 | ceene | i thin k i found a difference |
| 18:17.20 | ceene | ! |
| 18:18.50 | ceene | doesn't work :( |
| 18:19.05 | KotCzarny | but at least no ban? ;) |
| 18:19.24 | ceene | not for the moment |
| 18:19.28 | ceene | since i can't login... |
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| 18:34.29 | ahycka | eats ceene |
| 18:34.43 | ahycka | where is my dinner??? |
| 18:34.58 | ceene | on the fridge, woman |
| 18:35.09 | ceene | sudo make yourself a sandwich |
| 18:35.48 | ceene | https://xkcd.com/149/ |
| 18:36.56 | ahycka | -.- |
| 18:37.43 | ahycka | lets play "find the 10 diferences"! |
| 18:53.54 | sixwheeledbeast | how do you get a number blocked, that's a good thing right? |
| 18:56.03 | ceene | it depends on your definition of "good thing" |
| 18:56.09 | ceene | most people would say that's bad |
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| 19:05.51 | sixwheeledbeast | well i guess you have to agree with there privicy policy to get blocked in the first place. so maybe it's a lose lose situation anyway |
| 19:06.38 | KotCzarny | question is, do we want to keep that part of n900's userbase or try to convert them (unlikely)? |
| 19:07.36 | sixwheeledbeast | as said before it's the people the other end that's the issue |
| 19:08.00 | KotCzarny | my question still holds |
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| 19:31.42 | ceene | the gf is helping me :) |
| 19:31.50 | ceene | she's more organized than I am |
| 19:32.02 | ceene | well, only debugging, I am a better coder |
| 19:32.15 | ceene | and I keep the house tidier |
| 19:34.32 | ceene | she's really helped me find the issue! |
| 19:34.37 | ceene | at least now I know where to look |
| 19:34.55 | ceene | she's earned dinner |
| 19:35.07 | ceene | so i'll be back later |
| 19:35.30 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:37.56 | ahycka | dinner!! dinner!! \o/ \o/ |
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| 19:45.47 | Sicelo | ceene: so God was right that it's not good for a man to remain alone :p |
| 19:46.13 | KotCzarny | sicelo: there are also cats as an lesser evil alternative :P |
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