| 00:03.10 | *** join/#maemo buZz (~buzz@space.nurdspace.nl) |
| 00:11.54 | *** join/#maemo at1as (~at1as@kurios.r4780y.com) |
| 00:52.27 | *** join/#maemo robink_ (~quassel@unaffilated/robink) |
| 01:08.43 | *** join/#maemo RedW (~redw@89-76-164-87.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 01:17.23 | *** join/#maemo eMHa_ (~mh@p579DB7BF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 01:43.21 | *** join/#maemo robotanarchy_ (~robotanar@x590f532f.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 01:46.22 | *** join/#maemo RedM (~redw@89-76-164-87.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 02:04.38 | *** join/#maemo Defiant (erik@x4e36670b.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 02:33.46 | *** join/#maemo vakkov (~vakkov@s3n104.brunel.ac.uk) |
| 02:47.34 | *** join/#maemo RedW (~redw@89-76-164-87.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 03:01.19 | *** join/#maemo lxp1 (~lxp@unaffiliated/lxp) |
| 03:07.31 | *** join/#maemo DocScrutinizer05 (~saturn@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 03:20.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | happy to pre-announce devuan will build a version for maemo5, so after debian went systemd and thus orphaned downstream distros like maemo that can't work with systemd, we now have a future again in upstream |
| 03:24.06 | *** join/#maemo vahe1 (~funtoo@130.193.124.135) |
| 03:28.07 | *** join/#maemo vahe1 (~funtoo@130.193.124.135) |
| 04:16.05 | *** join/#maemo vakkov (~vakkov@s3n104.brunel.ac.uk) |
| 04:21.40 | *** join/#maemo vahe (~funtoo@130.193.124.135) |
| 04:47.56 | *** join/#maemo IANUS (~Matthew@host86-176-173-62.range86-176.btcentralplus.com) |
| 04:51.53 | KotCzarny | i have a code that maps song lenghts to song md5s, so i just did a hashing on those md5s to fit in int |
| 04:52.07 | KotCzarny | works nicely and luckily no collisions |
| 04:53.14 | KotCzarny | had to do that to fit it in few hundred of kB instead of few MB |
| 04:54.17 | KotCzarny | not to mention it's probably faster to lookup an int than 32byte |
| 06:02.16 | *** join/#maemo Oksana (~chatzilla@Maemo/community/ex-council/Wikiwide) |
| 06:05.22 | *** join/#maemo ecloud (quassel@nat/digia/x-jeenjtlotrhlppek) |
| 06:34.33 | *** join/#maemo arcean (~arcean@62.159.77.166) |
| 06:59.35 | *** join/#maemo corvinux (~hashcore@unaffiliated/corvinux) |
| 07:00.57 | *** join/#maemo hellekin (hellekin@gateway/shell/gnu/x-fvlcxxaucaeuxiog) |
| 07:03.23 | Maxdamantus | remembers noticing collisions in lengths (byte sizes of mp3s, mostly). |
| 07:03.29 | Maxdamantus | lengths and mtimes. |
| 07:08.22 | KotCzarny | this one was the .txt db of lengths in seconds and files were identified by md5sum |
| 07:22.44 | kerio | this reminds me that i should do another scrub of my zpool |
| 07:25.59 | *** join/#maemo freemangordon_ (~ivo@92.247.16.100) |
| 07:27.17 | *** join/#maemo freemangordon_1 (~ivo@92.247.16.100) |
| 07:30.23 | Maxdamantus | will do one of his btrfs. |
| 07:30.42 | Maxdamantus | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:30.47 | KotCzarny | how do i scrub my ext4? |
| 07:31.21 | Maxdamantus | You can't. |
| 07:31.32 | KotCzarny | sad panda |
| 07:31.36 | Maxdamantus | ext4 is a degenerate filesystem that doesn't have integrity checks. |
| 07:31.54 | KotCzarny | is ntfs better? |
| 07:32.14 | KotCzarny | also i think i have saw checksumming option in ext4 |
| 07:32.16 | Maxdamantus | Dunno. |
| 07:32.20 | *** join/#maemo futpib_ (~futpib@176.212.188.15) |
| 07:32.44 | kerio | btrfs has checksumming |
| 07:32.53 | kerio | because it's a cheapo clone of zfs |
| 07:33.11 | kerio | ext4 doesn't, because it's a toy filesystem |
| 07:34.01 | KotCzarny | Since the 3.6 kernel ext4 suppports metadata checksumming |
| 07:34.06 | Maxdamantus | btrfs is like zfs that does fewer stupid things, like loading things into RAM twice. |
| 07:35.29 | kerio | [citation needed] |
| 07:36.50 | Maxdamantus | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#ZFS_cache:_ARC_.28L1.29.2C_L2ARC.2C_ZIL |
| 07:37.52 | *** join/#maemo vahe (~funtoo@130.193.124.135) |
| 07:38.10 | kerio | so... |
| 07:38.33 | Maxdamantus | One of the reasons I probably wouldn't want to use it on an embedded device. |
| 07:39.28 | Maxdamantus | You have to allocate memory for it because it doesn't just use Linux's disk cache system like everything else. |
| 07:42.42 | *** join/#maemo Oksana (~chatzilla@Maemo/community/ex-council/Wikiwide) |
| 07:44.49 | kerio | well, you can't use it on n900 because the hard minimum for the ARC is 64mb |
| 07:44.55 | kerio | and that's a quarter of the n900's total ram |
| 07:49.07 | KotCzarny | and its 4 times of the available ram |
| 07:50.54 | luke-jr | only if you use Maemo |
| 07:50.59 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 07:58.39 | *** join/#maemo ecloud (quassel@nat/digia/x-gurmpnsqbobdydis) |
| 08:20.40 | *** join/#maemo ced117 (~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117) |
| 08:38.49 | *** join/#maemo bredebid (~bredebid@es-217-129-26-160.netvisao.pt) |
| 08:48.57 | *** join/#maemo N-Mi (~nicolas@calvix/staff/N-Mi) |
| 08:52.43 | ceene | the guy from yowsup is a cool guy :) |
| 08:52.53 | KotCzarny | good drinker? ;) |
| 08:52.58 | ceene | he's answered me and says he'll try to discover what's wrong with libwa |
| 08:53.06 | ceene | don't know, this guy is from germany |
| 08:53.12 | ceene | so yes, he's probably a good drinker |
| 08:53.15 | ceene | :D |
| 08:53.39 | ceene | yesterday i started to implement libaxolotl on my own code instead of continuing with libwa |
| 08:53.58 | ceene | it seems feasible, but... so many things seemed feasible before and end up being dead-ends |
| 08:54.05 | ceene | so... i don't really know what's gonna happen |
| 08:54.48 | KotCzarny | WA will change something to make things harder? |
| 08:54.49 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 08:55.48 | *** join/#maemo florian (~fuchs@Maemo/community/contributor/florian) |
| 08:56.34 | kerio | i don't really think they care about alternate clients |
| 08:56.43 | kerio | it's just that... |
| 08:56.46 | kerio | they don't care about alternate clients |
| 08:56.49 | KotCzarny | in fact, they hate alternative clients |
| 08:57.07 | kerio | :c |
| 08:57.40 | KotCzarny | someone in usa should start group case against their monopolistic practices |
| 08:58.12 | kerio | "they run a messaging service AND THEY DON'T RELEASE THEIR TRADE SECRETS SO WE CAN CONNECT TO IT" |
| 08:58.17 | kerio | that will go well |
| 09:03.40 | *** join/#maemo jskarvad (jskarvad@nat/redhat/x-yavdtiuyzjssahee) |
| 09:03.43 | *** join/#maemo jskarvad (jskarvad@redhat/jskarvad) |
| 09:10.00 | *** join/#maemo Ex-Opesa (~Ex-Opesa@unaffiliated/ex-opesa) |
| 09:36.14 | *** join/#maemo M4rtinK (~M4rtinK@77.48.149.46) |
| 09:37.43 | ceene | they don't even care about their own clients |
| 09:38.10 | ceene | proved by the fact that from 2017 they will no new releases for S40 nor old android phones |
| 10:02.39 | *** join/#maemo vakkov (~vakkov@s3n104.brunel.ac.uk) |
| 10:07.49 | *** join/#maemo RedW (~redw@89-76-164-87.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 10:30.14 | *** join/#maemo eMHa_ (~mh@185.36.21.2) |
| 11:01.53 | *** join/#maemo thomasm (~sinnlos@360.vmworld.it) |
| 11:03.51 | *** join/#maemo arcean (~arcean@62.159.77.166) |
| 11:04.48 | *** join/#maemo vakkov (~vakkov@s3n104.brunel.ac.uk) |
| 11:10.22 | *** join/#maemo salamisami (~Valle@a88-112-2-11.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 11:23.05 | *** join/#maemo kabouik1 (~Kabouik@65.76.93.92.rev.sfr.net) |
| 11:24.04 | zZap-X | i think we should all stop using whatsapp and try and get our friends to use https://whispersystems.org/ |
| 11:24.09 | zZap-X | and port that to N900 insteaad |
| 11:38.34 | luke-jr | why not standard XMPP? |
| 11:45.33 | parazyd | ^ |
| 11:49.55 | zZap-X | aye ok |
| 11:53.23 | sixwheeledbeast | more devices need cross platform SIP and XMPP, OTB. N900 had this, other devices need proprietary apps from app stores |
| 11:54.11 | sixwheeledbeast | the issue is getting others to switch from these proprietary systems they have been using for so long. |
| 11:54.54 | sixwheeledbeast | you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink... |
| 11:55.33 | M4rtinK | one issue with XMPP is audio/video AFAIK |
| 11:56.09 | M4rtinK | IIRC there is still not one widely supported method of robust audio/video conferencing over XMPP |
| 11:56.26 | M4rtinK | people expect that more and more these days |
| 11:56.49 | M4rtinK | so many of the new IM services, including open source ones, usually provide audio/video conferencing by default |
| 12:02.22 | sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: Exactly my point |
| 12:03.48 | M4rtinK | from what I've seen about the open/semi open IM services |
| 12:03.56 | M4rtinK | Telegram seem to be quite popular |
| 12:04.20 | M4rtinK | but too Whatsapp-like to my tastes (does something similar to the phone number nonsence whatsapp does) |
| 12:04.22 | zZap-X | "If your friends use Whatsapp, then maybe they are not your friends" |
| 12:04.43 | M4rtinK | then Matrix (fully open source & federated) looks good |
| 12:04.55 | M4rtinK | kinda like XMPP/Jabber 2.0/done right |
| 12:05.02 | M4rtinK | and also tox |
| 12:05.17 | zZap-X | There is always good old trusted SMS :D |
| 12:05.54 | M4rtinK | which is fully decentralized & encrypted, but kinda immature & the decentralization makes some things harder to do than on networks that are "just" federated |
| 12:06.18 | M4rtinK | like having more accounts online under your identity |
| 12:06.57 | zZap-X | most smartphones have sms and email, i will use them instead for now |
| 12:07.00 | M4rtinK | which is a rather frequent use-case these days with people using a mobile device & PC or even multiple mobile devices |
| 12:07.46 | zZap-X | or i could even actually phone somebody? i actually, maybe not |
| 12:19.00 | Sicelo | except that phoning somebody can cost an arm & a leg in some places |
| 12:22.45 | *** join/#maemo vakkov (~vakkov@ic-s221n11.brunel.ac.uk) |
| 12:23.38 | *** part/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net) |
| 12:23.56 | Sicelo | i fully agree with M4rtinK |
| 12:24.25 | M4rtinK | in any case more plugins for the Sailfish OS account system would be nice |
| 12:24.32 | M4rtinK | at least a Matrix one |
| 12:24.48 | M4rtinK | I'm using the Jabber/XMPP plugin and it work well |
| 12:25.29 | Sicelo | i also am pissed off at whatsapp, and for years avoided using it ... unfortunately i've got 'real' peope to communicate with .. so it ended up that i didn't rally have a choice. trust me .. i tried to convert them to IRC/xmpp ... just didn't work |
| 12:25.38 | *** join/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net) |
| 12:25.50 | Sicelo | M4rtinK: audio/video working with xmpp on sfos? |
| 12:31.28 | zZap-X | everybody uses facebook, everybody uses whatsapp... back in the old days it was Microsoft MSN lol |
| 12:32.50 | zZap-X | im gonna see if i can get SMS working in a terminal, that would be great |
| 12:33.13 | zZap-X | i believe there is a web interface for n900 sms |
| 12:33.15 | Sicelo | you can iirc (n900) |
| 12:33.31 | zZap-X | ace |
| 12:33.34 | Sicelo | that's the 'problem' with communication |
| 12:33.51 | Sicelo | it's not about 'you' .. but you need a common ground |
| 12:34.20 | Sicelo | in the form of a common language (english), or common medium (whatsapp) |
| 12:34.34 | zZap-X | aye |
| 12:36.23 | zZap-X | http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Send_SMS |
| 12:37.16 | zZap-X | i wonder if there is a tool what can send and recieve sms via email from your n900 |
| 12:37.28 | zZap-X | so when you get a sms, the n900 sends a email |
| 12:38.40 | Sicelo | you'd prolly want to hook to dbus |
| 12:38.55 | zZap-X | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=69264 |
| 12:41.25 | M4rtinK | Sicelo: just simple text chat |
| 12:43.16 | zZap-X | wow |
| 12:43.17 | zZap-X | http://maemo.org/packages/view/txtmsgtomail/ |
| 12:43.39 | zZap-X | now that is cool |
| 12:44.06 | zZap-X | saves grabbing my phone everytime there is a new sms :D |
| 12:44.54 | *** part/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net) |
| 12:45.42 | Linkandzelda | yay, now i have 2 n900s. one is used condition and another in mint condition http://cl.ly/0x3Q0F3x2b2H |
| 12:53.44 | zZap-X | lets test to see if this works |
| 12:54.16 | zZap-X | IT WORKS!! |
| 12:54.39 | zZap-X | now i need to find a way to send a sms from n900 |
| 12:55.54 | KotCzarny | ~phonecontrol |
| 12:55.54 | infobot | methinks phonecontrol is http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control |
| 12:59.18 | *** join/#maemo zama (~zama@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776) |
| 12:59.59 | *** join/#maemo Defiant (erik@x4e36670b.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 13:03.13 | *** join/#maemo erstazi (~erstazi@static-71-116-30-43.eriepa.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 13:03.13 | *** join/#maemo erstazi (~erstazi@unaffiliated/erstazi) |
| 13:06.22 | *** join/#maemo chadi (chadi@unaffiliated/chadi) |
| 13:08.46 | *** join/#maemo esaym153 (~esaym153@75-1-182-8.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 13:09.02 | *** join/#maemo clopez_ (~tau@neutrino.es) |
| 13:17.10 | *** join/#maemo phlixi_ (~phlixi@ppp-88-217-41-170.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 13:22.04 | *** join/#maemo at1as (~at1as@kurios.r4780y.com) |
| 13:42.42 | Vajb | would be cool to use whatsap via irssi script :D |
| 13:45.36 | zZap-X | how can one turn off vibration for sms only but leave phone vibration on? |
| 13:45.53 | zZap-X | Vajb: i used to use irssi + bitlbee + whatsapp-purple |
| 13:46.12 | zZap-X | but whatsapp-purple have stopped development and too scared to use it incase i get banned |
| 13:51.11 | Vajb | i see |
| 13:52.07 | Vajb | zZap-X: maybe there is ggonf key for it? |
| 13:52.21 | *** join/#maemo Milhouse (~Milhouse@kodi/staff/milhouse) |
| 13:59.17 | *** join/#maemo corvinux (~hashcore@n58h194.net.telprom.si) |
| 13:59.17 | *** join/#maemo corvinux (~hashcore@unaffiliated/corvinux) |
| 14:03.12 | zZap-X | Vajb: what is that? |
| 14:04.21 | zZap-X | KotCzarny: i think phonecontrol is a bit OTT, all i need is this http://maemo.org/packages/view/remotesms/ |
| 14:04.33 | zZap-X | phonecontrol is a bit like SMSCOM what i already use |
| 14:11.05 | Sicelo | completely unrelated |
| 14:13.09 | zZap-X | wow i remotesms works in links but you need the phone number |
| 14:15.19 | zZap-X | but then again all it does is communicate with sendsms.py so might as well use that lol |
| 14:20.37 | *** join/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net) |
| 14:21.09 | zZap-X | excellent, sendsms.py [number] message straight from command line, and new messages go straight to email inbox :D |
| 14:21.14 | zZap-X | no need to touch phone anymore |
| 14:22.43 | Sicelo | how do you read the messages that are in inbox? |
| 14:23.58 | zZap-X | mutt |
| 14:24.35 | zZap-X | pity sendsms.py doesnt read contacts, i could make a little wrapper script for it |
| 14:25.53 | Sicelo | i think you 'touch phone' for mutt, wrong? |
| 14:27.23 | zZap-X | mutt is a terminal mail client |
| 14:27.38 | *** join/#maemo troulouliou_div2 (~troulouli@unaffiliated/troulouliou-div2/x-0271439) |
| 14:30.39 | Sicelo | thanks for the info. i've been using mutt on my N900 for a long time :) |
| 14:31.22 | Sicelo | although i think i know now what you're trying to achieve |
| 14:32.12 | zZap-X | i use mutt on my linux box, just ssh into n900 |
| 14:32.19 | zZap-X | using screen |
| 14:38.32 | zZap-X | all i need to do as set some variables in the shell, like MeMob=12345, then i can do sendsms.py MeMob message |
| 14:38.57 | zZap-X | i wonder if there is a way to view the contact list in the terminal |
| 14:39.20 | *** part/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net) |
| 14:47.28 | Sicelo | it's a berkeley db .. readable |
| 14:48.15 | Sicelo | there's a python script somewhere for it |
| 14:48.22 | Sicelo | ~contacts2 |
| 14:48.27 | Sicelo | hmm |
| 14:48.42 | Sicelo | ~contact2 |
| 14:48.45 | Sicelo | ~contact |
| 14:48.52 | *** join/#maemo sunshavi (~user@190.235.18.236) |
| 14:58.39 | zZap-X | http://blog.tersmitten.nl/how-to-export-your-contacts-from-a-n900-backup-directory.html |
| 15:04.43 | Sicelo | well, that's not exactly the one |
| 15:05.20 | zZap-X | nope it didnt work lol |
| 15:05.23 | zZap-X | http://talk.maemo.org/archive/index.php/t-60526.html |
| 15:05.26 | zZap-X | cant get that to work either |
| 15:05.35 | Sicelo | i'll upload the one i have .. don't remember where i got it .. maybe on DocScrutinizer05 repo |
| 15:05.42 | zZap-X | ace :D |
| 15:07.39 | Sicelo | maemo.cloud-7.de maemo5 usr local bin contact2 |
| 15:07.49 | Sicelo | that's the url .. no spaces, of course |
| 15:08.15 | zZap-X | good man :D |
| 15:09.05 | *** join/#maemo corvinux (~hashcore@BSN-182-159-109.dynamic.siol.net) |
| 15:09.05 | *** join/#maemo corvinux (~hashcore@unaffiliated/corvinux) |
| 15:09.57 | *** join/#maemo Smily (~SmilzOrg@93-103-95-89.dynamic.t-2.net) |
| 15:11.04 | Vajb | zZap-X: actually mispelled gconf. Install gconf-tool and see if there is something to it. |
| 15:13.02 | zZap-X | works awesome |
| 15:21.19 | *** join/#maemo kabouik2 (~Kabouik@65.76.93.92.rev.sfr.net) |
| 15:22.58 | *** join/#maemo troulouliou_div2 (~troulouli@unaffiliated/troulouliou-div2/x-0271439) |
| 15:42.13 | *** join/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net) |
| 15:43.21 | *** join/#maemo ced117 (~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117) |
| 15:45.39 | *** join/#maemo Pali (~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali) |
| 15:51.08 | Sicelo | gconf, or contacts2? |
| 15:53.57 | *** part/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net) |
| 15:55.18 | *** join/#maemo IANUS (~Matthew@host86-176-173-62.range86-176.btcentralplus.com) |
| 15:55.32 | zZap-X | would i damage anything if i changed this in /etc/passwd /home/user:/bin/sh to /home/user:/bin/bash ? |
| 15:58.10 | Sicelo | very much |
| 15:58.29 | Sicelo | don't do that. maemo largely depends on busybox |
| 15:59.46 | *** join/#maemo ssvb (~ssvb@dsl-espbrasgw1-54fa71-124.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 16:00.34 | zZap-X | aye ok |
| 16:00.48 | zZap-X | Sicelo: so the best way to execute bash4 is by typing it |
| 16:06.08 | Sicelo | something like that, yes |
| 16:06.11 | *** join/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net) |
| 16:43.43 | *** join/#maemo krnlyng (~liar@178.114.74.158.wireless.dyn.drei.com) |
| 16:52.01 | *** join/#maemo kabouik3 (~Kabouik@65.76.93.92.rev.sfr.net) |
| 17:01.03 | *** join/#maemo florian (~fuchs@Maemo/community/contributor/florian) |
| 17:13.31 | *** join/#maemo futpib_ (~futpib@176.212.175.113) |
| 17:14.48 | *** join/#maemo kabouik4 (~Kabouik@37.163.11.96) |
| 17:14.48 | *** join/#maemo kabouik (~Kabouik@37.163.11.96) |
| 17:16.01 | *** join/#maemo TRD (~Matthew@host86-167-54-215.range86-167.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:22.13 | *** join/#maemo eMHa_ (~mh@p579DB7BF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:46.32 | *** join/#maemo TRD (~Matthew@host86-167-54-215.range86-167.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:58.00 | *** join/#maemo TRD (~Matthew@host86-167-54-215.range86-167.btcentralplus.com) |
| 18:03.30 | *** join/#maemo pagurus (~user@p4FD6C139.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:04.59 | *** join/#maemo kabouik5 (~Kabouik@65.76.93.92.rev.sfr.net) |
| 18:05.06 | *** join/#maemo kabouik6 (~Kabouik@65.76.93.92.rev.sfr.net) |
| 18:33.53 | *** join/#maemo ced117 (~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117) |
| 18:50.34 | *** join/#maemo User123q (~User123q@dynamic-adsl-78-13-149-43.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 18:54.49 | *** join/#maemo kabouik (~Kabouik@65.76.93.92.rev.sfr.net) |
| 19:15.58 | *** join/#maemo Cor-Ai (~cor-ai@c-7597e355.06-922-7570702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 19:23.10 | *** join/#maemo Cor-Ai (~cor-ai@c-7597e355.06-922-7570702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 19:38.21 | *** part/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net) |
| 19:38.25 | *** join/#maemo corvinux (~hashcore@unaffiliated/corvinux) |
| 19:56.35 | *** join/#maemo githogori (~githogori@c-73-70-12-67.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 20:42.47 | *** join/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net) |
| 21:43.36 | *** join/#maemo Sicelo (~Sicelo@unaffiliated/sicelo) |
| 22:05.32 | *** join/#maemo erstazi (~erstazi@static-71-116-30-43.eriepa.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 22:05.32 | *** join/#maemo erstazi (~erstazi@unaffiliated/erstazi) |
| 22:11.59 | *** join/#maemo andril (~andril@c-66-229-28-40.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 22:18.44 | *** join/#maemo povbot (~supybot@178-236-196-236.csc.lt) |
| 22:37.53 | *** join/#maemo Cor-Ai (~cor-ai@c-7597e355.06-922-7570702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 22:43.15 | Linkandzelda | DocScrutinizer05: is there any reason your tools page installs bash3 and not bash4? |
| 22:43.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | umm, yes. I think I didn't like some of the bash4 'new features' |
| 22:44.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | nothing sound though |
| 22:44.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc bash4 is missing "help" |
| 22:45.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | which, if correct, is an inapt futile effort to safe space |
| 22:45.27 | Linkandzelda | i see |
| 22:48.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | when I install bash, then not to safe space ;-) |
| 22:49.34 | *** join/#maemo TRD (~Matthew@host86-167-54-215.range86-167.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:49.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure you could create a script named "help" to simulate this lacking feature, but ... honestly now? I need to write this myself? |
| 22:50.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | then I pondered why I'd want bash4 instead bash3 and didn't find sound arguments |
| 22:52.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | and the latter is the only statement you may call me out on, all the rest is disclaimer IIRC |
| 22:53.40 | Linkandzelda | fair enough |
| 23:05.56 | Linkandzelda | one other thing, the bash and tools script you made installs packages from extras devel, or rather less and locate are not in the normal packages. since its a script meant to run in 1 shot, does this mean i should have extras devel for all other packages it installs? |
| 23:07.21 | *** join/#maemo kabouik7 (~Kabouik@65.76.93.92.rev.sfr.net) |
| 23:07.21 | *** join/#maemo kabouik6 (~Kabouik@65.76.93.92.rev.sfr.net) |
| 23:13.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | err good question, I admit I didn't consider that aspect since the script is "virtual" and grew over literally years without me ever testing it in its entirety. I *hope* it will work when you enable extras-devel and the nokia mirrors beforehand |
| 23:14.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | if certain packets turn out to be broken, I might add a version specifier to the particular apt-get install command, to install a working package |
| 23:15.15 | *** join/#maemo kabouik (~Kabouik@65.76.93.92.rev.sfr.net) |
| 23:15.17 | *** join/#maemo kabouik8 (~Kabouik@65.76.93.92.rev.sfr.net) |
| 23:16.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | ("virtual") actually I just copied in new cmdline commands I used, when it turned out they were useful. I forgot to take care and notice about the repos enabled when I did |
| 23:17.46 | *** join/#maemo kabouik9 (~Kabouik@65.76.93.92.rev.sfr.net) |
| 23:17.46 | *** join/#maemo kabouik7 (~Kabouik@65.76.93.92.rev.sfr.net) |
| 23:17.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | so yes, in theory there might be instances where I installed a package from maemo-extras, not noticing a conflicting broken package existing in maemo-extras-devel |
| 23:18.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | however I honestly doubt that |
| 23:20.47 | Linkandzelda | thats fine, i was installing them from exras devel on a per-package basis |
| 23:20.53 | *** join/#maemo Cor-Ai (~cor-ai@c-7597e355.06-922-7570702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 23:21.13 | *** join/#maemo Oksana (~chatzilla@Maemo/community/ex-council/Wikiwide) |
| 23:27.01 | *** part/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net) |
| 23:31.50 | *** join/#maemo Kabouik (~quassel@65.76.93.92.rev.sfr.net) |
| 23:34.49 | Linkandzelda | im setting up the 2nd n900 i got and forgot all the stuff i did on my other one |
| 23:37.32 | *** join/#maemo kabouik (~Kabouik@65.76.93.92.rev.sfr.net) |
| 23:37.37 | *** join/#maemo kabouik10 (~Kabouik@65.76.93.92.rev.sfr.net) |