| 00:04.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | HAHA >>It was 2 in the morning, I'm lying on my sofa and I'm listening to this, and then the screaming starts and i shit myself<< >> I saw them play this at The Rainbow, London, in 1971 and when the scream started two huge lights above the band were switched on, blinded everyone while simultaneously explosions went off all round the auditorium. THAT'S when I shit myself!<< |
| 00:06.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | thank God there's torrent, "deleted video" I HATE IT |
| 00:08.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | hihi >>This is music !!<< |
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| 00:19.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | will the receipts from 1972 to 1988 count as a proof that I only download backups of records I legally purchased? |
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| 00:24.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | A Saucerful Of Secrets woooOOOooow |
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| 01:23.35 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: does it even matter? |
| 01:23.50 | kerio | in most places it's illegal to download copies of albums that you own |
| 01:24.16 | kerio | as in |
| 01:24.26 | kerio | it's illegal to download an album, even if you own a copy of it |
| 01:26.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | here it's illegal to UPload |
| 01:26.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | download generally is not forbidden, unless you are very aware it's pirated material |
| 01:26.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | when I own the album, download is not pirated per se |
| 01:27.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | the GEMA and other trolls wnat to make you *think* download was illegal |
| 01:29.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | in fact it prolly isn't anywhere |
| 01:29.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless you think it is - then it actually is |
| 01:30.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | copyright violation is in *giving away* material you don't own the copyright of |
| 01:31.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | receiving/accepting/downloading material generally isn't illegal unless you clearly download material tagged "this is a cracked and pirated version of XYZ" |
| 01:33.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | what works for GEMA and other trolls is the fact that torrents are very hard to limit to download-only since it's a peer2peer sharing service by definition and concept |
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| 08:19.42 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: pong |
| 08:20.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, |
| 08:20.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | aah, your mail bounced |
| 08:20.27 | freemangordon | hmm? |
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| 08:47.05 | Vajb | say, if i wanna switch from crunchbang linux to something more maemo related. Should go for Devuan or Debian? |
| 08:47.41 | Vajb | or is there yet another recommendable lightweight alternative |
| 08:48.18 | Vajb | my box is 1,3ghz athlon tb with 768mb of ram... |
| 08:51.05 | Vajb | or should consider archlinux since it claims to have arm port? |
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| 09:07.38 | luke-jr | Vajb: Devuan |
| 09:08.00 | luke-jr | but why are you aiming for Maemo-related? |
| 09:09.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | debian isn't like maemo... *anymore* |
| 09:09.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | devuan is the new maemo base |
| 09:09.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | defacto |
| 09:09.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | devuabn also has ARM ports |
| 09:10.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | luke-jr: I guess learning for similar system architectures is easier than e.g. having a debian on one system and a rehat on the other |
| 09:11.50 | Vajb | exactly what doc said |
| 09:12.26 | Vajb | because of maemo i've learnt more about linux than using desktop linux for over 10 years |
| 09:13.07 | Vajb | so i thought it would be sane to switch desktop to something more "maemo like" |
| 09:14.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | go for devuan then |
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| 09:15.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | not only is devuan the "better debian" now, but also the guys and gals over at #devuan are really nice and helpsome |
| 09:15.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | as long as you don't paster with too many questions that already got answered in some wiki |
| 09:15.40 | Vajb | cool, thx |
| 09:15.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | pester, even |
| 09:16.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | though for devuan/debian you usually can get help from maemo folks as well |
| 09:16.52 | Vajb | well i rather search for answers for others problems which might be similar than ask my own |
| 09:26.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | good approach |
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| 09:58.21 | sixwheeledbeast | When you say 'Maemo like' I assume you mean DE not arch as crunchbang was debian based? |
| 10:03.00 | Vajb | yeah. Crunchbang got discontinued and i wanna try something else |
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| 10:16.14 | jonwil | hi |
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| 10:29.33 | sixwheeledbeast | So you want the DE to be Maemo like or do you like Desktop feel? |
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| 10:51.31 | azkay__ | Did you look at the crunchbang forks? |
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| 11:07.50 | sixwheeledbeast | or is lightweight the key? |
| 11:32.16 | ceene | i don't know how to continue |
| 11:32.20 | ceene | :( |
| 11:32.23 | ceene | libwa won't login |
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| 11:57.07 | zGrr | moin :) |
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| 15:06.44 | Vajb | sixwheeledbeast: im happy with desktop. I don't want maemonized DE |
| 15:07.10 | Vajb | lightweight is the key element there |
| 15:08.46 | Vajb | azkay_: i set it to use some forks repo already to get updates at least. |
| 15:09.49 | Vajb | i think they were bunsenlabs |
| 15:10.02 | azkay_ | I was using crunchbangplusplus, didn't like the bunsenlabs one |
| 15:11.38 | Vajb | well i have some level of dislike for crunchbang since i started using it. Can't say what it is tho. |
| 15:12.03 | azkay_ | ): |
| 15:12.56 | sixwheeledbeast | Devuan is in Alpha4 at the moment are you looking for an LTS type release? |
| 15:13.25 | Vajb | preferably yes |
| 15:13.48 | Vajb | i read through devuan page and then i shooted the Q here |
| 15:14.40 | Vajb | i think snappiest system i had was old laptop using puppy linux from usb memory stick :) |
| 15:15.12 | Vajb | but the most i liked ubuntu around versions 4-6 |
| 15:15.22 | Vajb | and maybe 7 |
| 15:16.00 | Vajb | i guess that is also the point when my hw started to become slowend... |
| 15:16.29 | kerio | Vajb: openbsd |
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| 15:56.00 | drathir | Vajb: arch put on it... |
| 16:04.56 | kerio | the devuan installer failed for me at the tasksel step |
| 16:04.59 | kerio | but it wasn't that big of a deal |
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| 16:18.23 | KotCzarny | vajb: it's linux, DE is just a matter of installing things |
| 16:18.46 | KotCzarny | but you say you prefer debian-like, so go for devuan, it should be quite seamless |
| 16:19.09 | KotCzarny | and for lightweight, you can always just use xfce or fluxbox |
| 16:20.11 | KotCzarny | and disable all things that are not needed |
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| 19:14.16 | zamn900 | hello there all of you folks |
| 19:14.29 | zamn900 | is yappari up? |
| 19:14.36 | KotCzarny | nope |
| 19:14.50 | zamn900 | :( |
| 19:14.52 | KotCzarny | and ceene is on the verge of giving up |
| 19:15.03 | zamn900 | holy .... |
| 19:15.14 | KotCzarny | please write to whatsapp owners how you feel about their closed network |
| 19:15.35 | KotCzarny | maybe if they find out they are going to lose lots of users they will stop being bully-hidy |
| 19:15.43 | zamn900 | but I am good with them and that OTR thing |
| 19:17.24 | zamn900 | well maybe this time I will change my thingy mobile |
| 19:17.33 | zamn900 | goodbye n900 |
| 19:17.50 | KotCzarny | donate it as a last move |
| 19:17.57 | KotCzarny | to some good n900 dev |
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| 19:18.15 | zamn900 | donate? |
| 19:18.24 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 19:18.28 | zamn900 | detonate I would |
| 19:19.04 | zamn900 | where is DocScrutinizer05 |
| 19:19.23 | zamn900 | hey is it all a freky candid man? |
| 19:21.26 | zamn900 | bad bad situation... if no whatsapp then no n900 |
| 19:22.14 | zamn900 | how can I tell to my mom that smile without whatsapp? |
| 19:22.53 | zamn900 | I payed 89 cents to whatsapp doc damn them |
| 19:23.38 | zamn900 | :'(((((((( |
| 19:24.28 | zamn900 | ok gimme ceene adress |
| 19:24.41 | zamn900 | I will fix everythig |
| 19:29.17 | zamn900 | slaps Infobot |
| 19:30.07 | zamn900 | slaps infobot |
| 19:32.02 | zamn900 | infobot give me the ceene address |
| 19:32.02 | infobot | ACTION gives the ceene address to zamn900 |
| 19:32.20 | zamn900 | naughty bot |
| 19:33.15 | Sicelo | lol. whatsapp doesn't care about losing users |
| 19:33.42 | zamn900 | no I will unverg ceene from giving up |
| 19:33.58 | Sicelo | they have directly told millions of their users that this is the last year they can use whatsapp, unless they buy smartphones. |
| 19:34.28 | Sicelo | so yes .. they don't really care at this point |
| 19:35.54 | zamn900 | no way this is going bad like skype |
| 19:36.14 | zamn900 | bad bad shituation |
| 19:37.23 | zamn900 | infobot tell to DocScrutinizer05 about the shituation |
| 19:38.07 | zamn900 | infobot why is the target invalid? |
| 19:38.07 | infobot | why not? |
| 19:38.39 | zamn900 | infobot, naughty, what have you DONE of your master?! |
| 19:39.25 | zamn900 | ANSWER ME :'O |
| 19:40.27 | zamn900 | this is bad |
| 19:40.32 | zamn900 | oh my |
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| 20:09.52 | sixwheeledbeast | skype whatsapp meh |
| 20:10.13 | zamn900 | sniffes |
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| 20:20.07 | zamn900 | shall we start mourning about doc murdered from his bot? |
| 20:21.59 | zamn900 | infobot confess your crime |
| 20:22.43 | zamn900 | too smart to talk huh? |
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| 20:24.17 | zamn900 | infobot have you killed anybody in these days? |
| 20:25.08 | zamn900 | misterious |
| 20:27.47 | zamn900 | infobot tell me something |
| 20:28.39 | zamn900 | do you want a lawyer? |
| 20:44.48 | ceene | zamn900: do you know how to code? |
| 20:44.58 | ceene | slapping infobot or me won't help |
| 20:45.02 | zamn900 | sorry no |
| 20:45.26 | ceene | you can buy me patience and inspiration, then |
| 20:45.35 | ceene | though that isn't bought with money |
| 20:45.41 | zamn900 | I d to hear from you the problem |
| 20:46.03 | ceene | maybe a buddist training course... |
| 20:46.34 | zamn900 | lol |
| 20:46.44 | ceene | i'm pretty near, but i'm facing a problem right now that i don't know how to solve, nor the cause |
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| 20:46.46 | zamn900 | what do you mean |
| 20:47.04 | ceene | i've asked for help to a few people who code their own whatsapp clients |
| 20:47.08 | zamn900 | spill all out |
| 20:47.10 | ceene | but no luck until now |
| 20:47.34 | zamn900 | till now :| |
| 20:47.56 | ceene | i've written today to the yowsup guy |
| 20:48.06 | ceene | maybe he can and wanto to help me |
| 20:48.20 | zamn900 | maybe huh |
| 20:48.28 | ceene | if not... i don't know if i'll be able to solve this |
| 20:49.01 | zamn900 | but whats technically the problem |
| 20:50.06 | zamn900 | do tell please |
| 20:50.16 | ceene | i keep geting auth failed |
| 20:50.24 | zamn900 | lulz |
| 20:50.37 | ceene | i've replaced whatsapp original wa implementation for libwa |
| 20:51.00 | ceene | libwa is a wa implementation by coderus, with encryption support |
| 20:51.06 | ceene | but i can't get it to work |
| 20:51.07 | ceene | and coderus |
| 20:51.11 | ceene | has given up |
| 20:51.34 | zamn900 | now I get the shituation a bit more |
| 20:51.53 | ceene | i' sure the problem right now is a silly and stupid little thing |
| 20:51.58 | ceene | a two lines patch |
| 20:52.05 | ceene | but which two lines? |
| 20:52.14 | zamn900 | ye I could imagine |
| 20:52.33 | zamn900 | in between how many? |
| 20:53.23 | zamn900 | rowly |
| 20:53.30 | zamn900 | well anyway... |
| 20:53.54 | zamn900 | then is just a moment |
| 20:54.35 | zamn900 | never give up |
| 20:55.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~botsnack |
| 20:55.50 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: :) |
| 20:56.11 | zamn900 | I know a buddy not buddist who knows a buddy not buddist again who knows a buddy... so on untill a good coder is at the bottom of lines |
| 20:56.34 | zamn900 | DocScrutinizer05, it seems you are alive |
| 20:58.05 | zamn900 | the coder I am supposed to know has won an olimpionic race in coding in mexico many years ago and now is chief in some cool google stuff thinghy |
| 20:58.56 | zamn900 | infobot have you committed crimes? |
| 20:59.19 | zamn900 | oh com'on naughy boy confess |
| 21:00.35 | zamn900 | anyway I can understand quite well what's coding like |
| 21:01.52 | zamn900 | oh and about OTR thing we could know about since months ago |
| 21:02.33 | zamn900 | many months ago leaked new about this whatsapp otr thing |
| 21:03.25 | zamn900 | I would have warned you mates... but I always suppose you are cooler than me |
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| 21:04.22 | ceene | i sure am not |
| 21:04.57 | ceene | i'm the idiot who bought his first n900 just a couple of months before scorpius stopeed supporting yappari |
| 21:05.11 | ceene | and since nobody had stepped up... it was me |
| 21:06.00 | zamn900 | that's an honor all of yours and your teammates |
| 21:06.42 | zamn900 | get some fresh eyes... |
| 21:07.02 | zamn900 | have a nice day... |
| 21:07.22 | ceene | you too |
| 21:07.24 | zamn900 | do your duty with joy |
| 21:07.46 | zamn900 | get some renereting fuck too |
| 21:07.54 | zamn900 | regenerating |
| 21:08.07 | zamn900 | do all your best |
| 21:08.33 | zamn900 | just because you are the hero in this ok? |
| 21:10.11 | zamn900 | that said |
| 21:10.38 | zamn900 | infobot has to go in jail |
| 21:11.10 | zamn900 | bots shall never rule our world |
| 21:11.58 | zamn900 | Good Coding! (Y) |
| 22:04.07 | kerio | cocaine is one hell of a drug |
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| 22:19.27 | sixwheeledbeast | :nod: |
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| 23:11.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: huh? |
| 23:13.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: so you have a mission to destroy it *all*? ;-D |
| 23:13.35 | kerio | ? |
| 23:13.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | destroys a little bit of ethanol |
| 23:14.05 | kerio | i don't even drink .-. |
| 23:14.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | ponders to head out, there must be more of that which needs getting destroyed |
| 23:15.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | or wait... did it finally become obvious _what_ caused D. Trump? |