| 00:18.19 | Linkandzelda | so i somehow managed to uninstall cssu, not sure how that happened |
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| 00:29.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | just reinstall it |
| 00:29.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~cssu |
| 00:29.40 | infobot | [cssu] http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) |
| 00:29.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | click, wait, then click once more on the icon |
| 00:31.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems many users forget about the second step |
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| 02:01.46 | Church- | Hey, got a question about replacing the image in eas-debian. |
| 02:02.16 | Church- | Can I just delete the image folder and .ext2 file and decompress the new image? |
| 02:02.23 | Church- | Or are there more steps I need to follow? |
| 02:19.43 | Church- | Nevermind, problem solved. |
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| 05:34.45 | KotCzarny | Linkandzelda: for slow links try mosh, for n900 lagging switch power saving to something less |
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| 10:28.14 | Church- | Sigh... and yet more errors... >_> |
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| 10:44.33 | KotCzarny | i always treat compilation as an adventure game |
| 10:44.47 | KotCzarny | with enemies, bosses, upgrades ;) |
| 10:44.55 | L29Ah | go gentoo |
| 10:45.13 | Luke-Jr | +1 |
| 10:45.20 | Luke-Jr | too bad Gentoo can't do N900 anymore |
| 10:45.49 | KotCzarny | not too good advice then |
| 10:46.12 | L29Ah | it can't only with a new glibc and a stock kernel |
| 10:46.18 | L29Ah | you can opt out of both w/o much hassle |
| 10:46.37 | Luke-Jr | L29Ah: not really |
| 10:46.41 | L29Ah | how so? |
| 10:46.46 | Luke-Jr | the stage1 uses the new glibc.. |
| 10:46.54 | L29Ah | ask stage4 from Wizzup |
| 10:47.06 | L29Ah | also musl stage3 works fine |
| 10:47.14 | Luke-Jr | I couldn't get musl to work reasonably |
| 10:47.31 | L29Ah | stuck at xorg failing to build and dropped it too |
| 10:48.38 | L29Ah | i guess i'll be moving to gentoo after Wizzup succeeds to make it into a phone, as i lack another sensible gsm phone to use |
| 10:49.22 | KotCzarny | buy another n900 then |
| 10:49.26 | L29Ah | but the sad state of distcc and the need to bring up a qemu chroot to build stuff is quite disappointing |
| 10:50.16 | KotCzarny | create a network of n900-gentoo users and manage common build os? |
| 10:50.54 | jon_y | >gentoo users |
| 10:51.07 | jon_y | >trusting other users to have the same USE falgs |
| 10:51.11 | jon_y | *flags |
| 10:51.25 | L29Ah | yeah, it's quite troublesome |
| 10:51.34 | KotCzarny | and why not distcc+xcomp gcc ? |
| 10:51.42 | L29Ah | distcc doesn't work and i don't understand why |
| 10:51.53 | L29Ah | and its development looks deserted |
| 10:52.02 | L29Ah | maybe i'll dig more into this |
| 10:53.37 | L29Ah | but atm i look forward making a quite unusual open source electric bicycle conversion kit that consumes lots of money and attention, so i'll just whine and wait for gentoo n900 to come to me :3 |
| 10:54.18 | jon_y | ah that |
| 10:54.39 | jon_y | get a bunch of N900s to warm your bike |
| 10:55.39 | Luke-Jr | distcc works fine for me |
| 10:55.40 | L29Ah | an n900 is $50 diverted from other stuff |
| 10:55.44 | Luke-Jr | but my desktop is also Gentoo |
| 10:55.50 | L29Ah | same |
| 10:55.53 | Luke-Jr | L29Ah: not upgrading to Pyra? |
| 10:56.03 | L29Ah | distcc says it works, but it seems to actually compile on the device |
| 10:57.24 | L29Ah | does it have a fully functional gsm? |
| 10:58.10 | L29Ah | don't see a camera also |
| 10:58.17 | L29Ah | i have a laptop already |
| 10:59.57 | L29Ah | although it looks interesting |
| 11:01.14 | L29Ah | Approximately in December you will be able to preoder the Pyra here on this page. |
| 11:01.15 | L29Ah | ok |
| 11:01.28 | L29Ah | Important: The Pyra will cost more than 290 EUR. The 290 EUR are just a prepayment, needed to start the mass production. |
| 11:01.29 | L29Ah | uh oh |
| 11:02.33 | L29Ah | but it can build gentoo on its own |
| 11:05.58 | ceene | pyra is lacking 3g, though, isn't it? |
| 11:13.22 | KotCzarny | n900 can be had for ~20-30usd |
| 11:13.29 | KotCzarny | fully functional |
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| 11:15.14 | ceene | not so much in terms of recent software |
| 11:25.21 | KotCzarny | all i need is a phone with ssh terminal and portable audio player |
| 11:25.25 | KotCzarny | n900 does it for me |
| 11:28.03 | ceene | that's the thing, pyra is not a phone |
| 11:28.39 | ceene | well, it appears as an option |
| 11:28.44 | ceene | but don't know if it will happen |
| 11:30.12 | KotCzarny | and on top of that i can just write/compile almost anything, even on device |
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| 13:04.52 | Church-_ | Hey is there a way to acces files and commands from the maemo fs within a chroot? |
| 13:05.31 | KotCzarny | sure, basic hacking ways of escaping chroot work, or just mount --bind / /some/path/inside/chroot |
| 13:07.06 | Church-_ | KotCzarny: Not sure the latter will work. Running an rss reader inside the chroot want it to open files using a browser outside of it. |
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| 15:51.19 | Sicelo | Church-: easy debian (which i suppose you're using) can access all maemo files |
| 15:54.21 | Sicelo | wait .. no, just /home, |
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| 16:00.19 | Linkandzelda | how much battery life do you guys get on average? |
| 16:00.42 | KotCzarny | ~6days in mostly idle (few calls), battery is original from 2009 |
| 16:00.42 | infobot | KotCzarny: I think you lost me on that one |
| 16:01.05 | Sicelo | 10 hours for me |
| 16:02.06 | KotCzarny | and for continuous usage just a few h |
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| 16:22.42 | Linkandzelda | i have charged my battery fully. it reports 1212/1267 mAh 6 hours / 5 days |
| 16:22.59 | Linkandzelda | however yesterday it drained fully within 4 hours |
| 16:23.09 | Linkandzelda | i guess 4 hours screen on time isnt bad |
| 16:23.16 | Linkandzelda | is there any extended batteries? |
| 16:23.39 | KotCzarny | mugen did 2400mAh in the past |
| 16:24.01 | Linkandzelda | seems a bit thick |
| 16:24.15 | Linkandzelda | any external charger for batteries so i can charge 2 up at once? |
| 16:24.37 | KotCzarny | and i think someone here was running n900 from 2 18650s ;) |
| 16:25.52 | KotCzarny | not this one but lol: http://i.imgur.com/vyYkRfB.jpg |
| 16:26.14 | KotCzarny | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=86571 |
| 16:26.37 | Linkandzelda | haha |
| 16:27.07 | KotCzarny | 2x 18650 means ~5000mAh |
| 16:27.16 | KotCzarny | should last for a while |
| 16:27.57 | KotCzarny | wow, he upped it to triple cell |
| 16:28.03 | KotCzarny | madness |
| 16:29.03 | Linkandzelda | that looks a bit extreme for me |
| 16:29.25 | KotCzarny | 7500mAh means no charging for a month |
| 16:29.27 | KotCzarny | hehehe |
| 16:30.31 | Sicelo | or more abuse :p |
| 16:32.35 | Sicelo | i know i would |
| 16:33.45 | Wizzup | It would be nice if it was a seperate pack IMHO |
| 16:34.23 | Sicelo | looks doable |
| 16:34.38 | KotCzarny | yeah, it's a jst connector |
| 16:34.42 | sixwheeledbeast | I would say you have a faulty battery or something is stopped your device sleeping. |
| 16:34.46 | sixwheeledbeast | ~powertop |
| 16:34.46 | infobot | methinks powertop is available from repos |
| 16:34.50 | sixwheeledbeast | ~zzztop |
| 16:34.51 | infobot | from memory, zzztop is - the better and even FOSS powertop - http://wiki.maemo.org/Zzztop |
| 16:35.26 | Linkandzelda | are these tools i can use to check battery usage? |
| 16:35.48 | KotCzarny | nope |
| 16:36.08 | KotCzarny | those are for system wakefullness |
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| 16:36.18 | KotCzarny | for battery usage you will probably want battery-eye |
| 16:36.27 | KotCzarny | or shell script |
| 16:36.34 | sixwheeledbeast | battery usage tools will use battery and are mostly pointless. |
| 16:36.40 | Linkandzelda | ok |
| 16:36.47 | Linkandzelda | i'll try this powertop/zzztop |
| 16:36.49 | KotCzarny | swb: battery-eye is quite good |
| 16:37.05 | KotCzarny | only triggers on screen on and similar events |
| 16:37.25 | Sicelo | ceene: connection closed by server for my yappari again ... something fishy here. i did add two more contacts today, synchronized, and wrote to them over an hour ago. i know for sure none of them has blocked me. so beats me why i would be blocked again (if i'm blocked) |
| 16:39.11 | Linkandzelda | estimate dropped to 2 hours, 95% left.. definitely an old battery |
| 16:42.50 | Linkandzelda | well i installed zzztop, how can i tell if its keeping stuff awake? |
| 16:42.56 | Sicelo | ceene: yes, blocked. and weird thing is i was just talking to contacts only a few minutes ago; did not even close Yappari until it shut down on its own. |
| 16:43.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: see wiki "power consumption" and get simple brightness applet |
| 16:45.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | also get load applet, it's worth it, like a RPM meter in your car |
| 16:45.31 | Linkandzelda | i have load applet already, its nice and seems to be almost always full cpu |
| 16:45.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | OUCH |
| 16:45.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | fire up htop and check what's wrong |
| 16:45.56 | Linkandzelda | right now i have nothing open but HAM idle and its flashing red to me |
| 16:46.03 | Linkandzelda | ok it dropped load now |
| 16:46.03 | KotCzarny | most likely load applet is part of the cpu usage ;) |
| 16:46.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | tracker I guess |
| 16:46.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | tracker is a bitch |
| 16:46.28 | Linkandzelda | i always avoided all load applets in the past |
| 16:46.32 | KotCzarny | ~tracker-cfg |
| 16:46.54 | KotCzarny | grab tracker-cfg and disable few things that you dont use |
| 16:46.56 | Linkandzelda | i have tracker-cfg, i set it to 10 and lowmemorymode |
| 16:47.05 | KotCzarny | you can add exclude dirs |
| 16:47.25 | Linkandzelda | but other than that not sure what to edit there |
| 16:47.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | try setting it to "stop on battery" or whatever the name |
| 16:48.26 | Linkandzelda | this tracker just looks for media files right? is there really no way to have a manual library refresh or something? |
| 16:48.30 | KotCzarny | how many files did you put on n900? |
| 16:48.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | let the friggin thing finsih its job (which can take up to an hour, literally!) while charging, and stop doing nasty while your device is battery operated |
| 16:48.55 | KotCzarny | keep in mind if you disable tracker you might get missing files in gallery for example |
| 16:49.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, you can trigger manual reindexing but that's also done by tracker and mostly useless, particularly to conserve energy |
| 16:49.35 | Linkandzelda | no much, about 1.2gb of wallpapers, no music, no videos, the easy debian image and... 8gb mirror of ovi store debs on my sd card |
| 16:49.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | it actually just looks for (and indexes, by metadata) all media files |
| 16:50.08 | KotCzarny | try to add that mirror to exluded paths |
| 16:50.20 | Linkandzelda | ok |
| 16:50.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | a wild geuss: tracker reads *all* files and checks if they are media files |
| 16:50.42 | KotCzarny | you dont want to let it churn through directory structure where there is nothing to index |
| 16:50.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | guess, even. I might be completely wrong |
| 16:51.05 | Linkandzelda | this is my htop view https://www.dropbox.com/s/fngf42z1wblw3ej/Screenshot%202016-04-14%2017.50.53.png?dl=0 |
| 16:51.09 | Sicelo | it also indexes non-media files. tracker-stats shows what else it indexes |
| 16:51.39 | KotCzarny | tracker is an abomination |
| 16:51.45 | Linkandzelda | oh yes, when i first added these wallpapers it was ugly slow for 2 hours using 80%+ cpu |
| 16:51.47 | KotCzarny | i've disable it on my device |
| 16:51.49 | Linkandzelda | what a mess |
| 16:51.56 | sixwheeledbeast | Linkandzelda: C states at the top of zzztop more C4 the better |
| 16:52.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | your htop looks absolutely sane |
| 16:52.02 | KotCzarny | and just use file browser for pics |
| 16:52.27 | KotCzarny | and for music i use my player which just goes by path/file structure |
| 16:52.53 | Linkandzelda | KotCzarny: i remember you mentioned that, whats the name? sounds like something i want |
| 16:53.06 | KotCzarny | ~oscp |
| 16:53.06 | infobot | oscp is, like, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94590 |
| 16:53.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | load avg 0.54 0.32 0.16 well a tad on the high side but not too worrisome |
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| 16:55.27 | Sicelo | & Oksana seem to be the only ones who found peace with tracker :) |
| 16:55.44 | KotCzarny | i think oksana still has some issues with the tracker ;) |
| 16:57.40 | Sicelo | my current setup serves me just fine. i have zero issues |
| 16:58.00 | KotCzarny | sicelo: do you have many exclusions in the config? |
| 16:58.05 | Sicelo | no |
| 16:58.14 | KotCzarny | not many files then? |
| 16:58.22 | Linkandzelda | is there any runner thing like dmenu or something where i can press a shortcut and enter name of app to open it? |
| 16:58.46 | KotCzarny | Linkandzelda": yeah, its calles xterm ;) |
| 16:58.51 | KotCzarny | *called |
| 16:59.03 | Linkandzelda | bah, is that really it lol |
| 16:59.07 | KotCzarny | but i think there were desktop widgets for that too |
| 16:59.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | I messed up my tracker config a year or so ago, before it was just fine, now it sucks big time every now and then. Need to recover from a backup (luckily I should have backups thanks to having automated that process via cronjob on my PC) |
| 16:59.45 | KotCzarny | and even bettery, you can write one in pygtk quite easily |
| 17:00.33 | Sicelo | http://paste.debian.net/432767/ |
| 17:00.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: (drunner) dunno, I'm prety sure "there's an app for that" |
| 17:00.45 | Sicelo | KotCzarny: ^^ |
| 17:01.23 | Sicelo | it holds up quite fine even if i have more files than i currently have .. recently moved least-used files out of N900 |
| 17:01.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/50015409 |
| 17:01.47 | Linkandzelda | http://paste.debian.net/432769/ |
| 17:01.59 | Linkandzelda | seems i need to clear out some stuff |
| 17:02.07 | KotCzarny | http://pastebin.com/raw/h4ZGUNra |
| 17:02.08 | KotCzarny | mine |
| 17:02.35 | Sicelo | KotCzarny: so you didn't disable it after all? |
| 17:02.50 | KotCzarny | it's just stats i think |
| 17:02.58 | KotCzarny | i disabled automatic runs |
| 17:03.11 | Sicelo | it's active. what's your uptime? |
| 17:03.21 | KotCzarny | 14 days |
| 17:03.32 | Sicelo | then it is active |
| 17:03.57 | KotCzarny | brb |
| 17:03.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, some more bullshit bingo :-) http://paste.opensuse.org/76461289 |
| 17:04.07 | Linkandzelda | sixwheeledbeast: http://paste.debian.net/432770/ |
| 17:04.27 | Sicelo | haha you guys :) .. |
| 17:04.51 | Sicelo | i moved my packages to the "hidden" folders in my nowatch paths |
| 17:05.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: on charger? |
| 17:05.32 | Linkandzelda | can i make it watch nothing and only the paths i give? |
| 17:05.39 | Linkandzelda | DocScrutinizer05: off |
| 17:05.48 | Linkandzelda | off and idling with no apps open |
| 17:05.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | off? what is 'off'? |
| 17:05.53 | Linkandzelda | off charger |
| 17:05.55 | Sicelo | starts to wonder how your directory structures are :) |
| 17:06.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | then that looks a tad... |
| 17:06.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | high on the IRQ side |
| 17:06.21 | Linkandzelda | ssh is running as well, screen is off |
| 17:06.31 | sixwheeledbeast | Linkandzelda: That shows a device that is not getting C4 at all and at 250Mhz all the time, no wonder your battery isn't lasting |
| 17:06.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | lemme do a similar test |
| 17:06.55 | Linkandzelda | sixwheeledbeast: how can i fix it? should i reflash and start over? |
| 17:07.04 | Linkandzelda | its only been 2 days since i had this phone lol |
| 17:07.43 | sixwheeledbeast | Linkandzelda: It's normally a good idea to start fresh if you have no idea what has been installed on there. |
| 17:08.11 | Linkandzelda | ah well i reflashed when i got it, then installed a bunch of apps and did a bunch of tweaks since |
| 17:08.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: 250MHz all the time is no bad sign |
| 17:08.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | per se |
| 17:08.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | no C4 is, though |
| 17:09.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/81665270 |
| 17:09.09 | Linkandzelda | whats c4? dont want my phone exploding haha |
| 17:09.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's an idle state |
| 17:09.34 | sixwheeledbeast | DocScrutinizer51: nod Linkandzelda: sleep states |
| 17:09.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | C0 is CPU running full power |
| 17:09.56 | Linkandzelda | i just ran it a second time |
| 17:10.12 | Linkandzelda | http://paste.debian.net/432771/ |
| 17:10.47 | sixwheeledbeast | That shows you have power kernal and are overclocking? |
| 17:10.55 | Linkandzelda | yes |
| 17:11.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: you got high counts in zzztop for gp_timer (software) and I2C_omap. You got some monitoring software running that's coded pretty poorly |
| 17:12.05 | Linkandzelda | hmm |
| 17:12.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | overclocking?? |
| 17:12.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~omap-oc |
| 17:12.23 | infobot | well, omap-oc is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2010-08-01.log.html#t2010-08-01T22:16:05 read that!, or and this http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2011-03-11.log.html#t2011-03-11T03:04:11 |
| 17:12.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~oc |
| 17:12.30 | infobot | oc is, like, an Optical Carrier, An OC1 has 672 channels or 44.736 Mbit/s |
| 17:12.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~overclocking |
| 17:12.37 | infobot | "OK, listen up. This is your CPU." apt drops the CPU into a hot frying pan. "This is your CPU on overclocking. Any questions?" |
| 17:12.50 | Linkandzelda | hehe |
| 17:12.52 | sixwheeledbeast | C4 is better, I am used to seeing 125Mhz here but yes 250Mhz 100% would be correct. |
| 17:13.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | 125 is deprecated |
| 17:13.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | supposed to be unstable |
| 17:13.24 | Linkandzelda | setting it to 805 really makes it feel snappy |
| 17:13.38 | Linkandzelda | going to see what monitoring things i have |
| 17:14.12 | Linkandzelda | advanced clock plugin? not really a monitor but.. sort of |
| 17:14.20 | sixwheeledbeast | You say deprecated but I get better standby time with my usage and have done for years, I wouldn't recommend it but WFM |
| 17:14.23 | Linkandzelda | advanced power monitor |
| 17:14.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | at least that's what I seem to recall |
| 17:14.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | OUCH |
| 17:14.48 | sixwheeledbeast | ~widgetz |
| 17:14.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | avalanched power killer monitor |
| 17:15.00 | Linkandzelda | hah, right |
| 17:15.11 | Linkandzelda | my desktop is empty with no icons right now |
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| 17:15.38 | Linkandzelda | conky, but i dont run it often if ever |
| 17:15.56 | Linkandzelda | cpumem-applet |
| 17:16.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | forget all those power consuming err power consumption monitors, the only thing they show you is their own greediness |
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| 17:16.31 | Sicelo | n900 has very little ram unfortunately Linkandzelda. so you have to make very wish choices about stuff running in the background |
| 17:16.37 | Sicelo | *wise |
| 17:17.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | cpumem applet (aka load applet?) should be OK |
| 17:17.42 | Linkandzelda | Sicelo: yes indeed |
| 17:17.53 | Linkandzelda | going to get rid of power monitor |
| 17:18.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | better that |
| 17:18.50 | Linkandzelda | i only really need the basics |
| 17:19.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | ".*power.*" applets usually just indicate they are power greedy, by the adverb "power" in their name ;-) |
| 17:19.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | apps even |
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| 17:22.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | TTE 2344, not bad eh?! ;-) |
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| 17:22.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | 2795 |
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| 17:22.46 | Linkandzelda | is there a terminal command to get current battery info? |
| 17:22.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~2795/60/24 |
| 17:22.49 | infobot | 1.940972222222 |
| 17:23.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~bq27k |
| 17:23.05 | Linkandzelda | i just uninstalled advance power manager and rebooted |
| 17:23.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~bq27 |
| 17:23.05 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, bq27 is http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/ bq27*, or http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/ |
| 17:24.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | 3731 LOL |
| 17:26.21 | Linkandzelda | top perl script gives me a syntax error |
| 17:26.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/81761924 |
| 17:27.11 | Linkandzelda | ok that works |
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| 17:27.48 | Linkandzelda | http://paste.debian.net/432776/ for the record |
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| 17:28.31 | Linkandzelda | so wait, you have a tte of 3731? |
| 17:28.37 | Linkandzelda | tte = time to empty? |
| 17:28.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 17:28.48 | Linkandzelda | TTE: 307 minutes |
| 17:28.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 17:29.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | TTE 307 is sort of pathetic |
| 17:29.07 | Linkandzelda | i feel screwed somehow, i must be doing something incorrect |
| 17:29.20 | KotCzarny | Linkandzelda: pastebin dpkg -l |
| 17:30.14 | Sicelo | start by getting a battery ... as it is .. now we've been through lots of possible problems with your N900. start simple. |
| 17:30.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: your calib is off: Last Measured Discharge: 1869 mAh |
| 17:31.01 | Sicelo | or .. reflash, and hold off instaling fancy stuff for a day or two, and see how it performs |
| 17:31.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes!!! |
| 17:31.32 | Linkandzelda | -bash: curl: command not found |
| 17:31.42 | Linkandzelda | i was going to use curl to upload it |
| 17:32.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | apt-get install curl ? |
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| 17:33.13 | Linkandzelda | i keep forgetting its that easy |
| 17:33.36 | Linkandzelda | KotCzarny: http://sprunge.us/eVQJ |
| 17:34.03 | Linkandzelda | i'll see if i can calibrate it |
| 17:37.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/calibrate-bq27k.sh |
| 17:40.25 | Linkandzelda | DocScrutinizer05: TTE: 8803 minutes |
| 17:41.53 | Linkandzelda | dont quite understand how im meant to run this calibrate scriptr |
| 17:42.11 | KotCzarny | ~calibration |
| 17:42.14 | KotCzarny | ~calibrate |
| 17:42.20 | KotCzarny | ~battery-calibration |
| 17:42.26 | KotCzarny | ~battery-callibration |
| 17:42.33 | KotCzarny | ~callibrate |
| 17:42.35 | KotCzarny | ~ping |
| 17:42.35 | infobot | 1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss |
| 17:42.38 | KotCzarny | hrm |
| 17:42.58 | KotCzarny | what was the magic word? |
| 17:44.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: less calibrate-bq27k.sh |
| 17:47.48 | Linkandzelda | so let me get this right. i plug in the charger, then run this script, it disables charging until the battery is dead, then it enables charging again |
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| 18:09.56 | Sicelo009N | Linkandzelda: you may want to play with having swap on μSD |
| 18:10.28 | Sicelo009N | if you have fast card, you may get the snappiness you desire without overclocking |
| 18:10.51 | KotCzarny | isnt it a bit dangerous? |
| 18:11.04 | Linkandzelda | Sicelo009N: how fast card are we talking about? |
| 18:11.30 | Sicelo | dangerous? how? (besides removing rear cover) |
| 18:11.53 | KotCzarny | isnt connecting usb tries to dismount/export sd card to computer? |
| 18:12.17 | Sicelo009N | Linkandzelda: class 10 is usually recommended .. i have been using class 4 .. not bad, but i activate it when i have a need |
| 18:12.34 | KotCzarny | sicelo: class doesnt matter, iops does |
| 18:12.43 | KotCzarny | samasung/sandisk cards are good |
| 18:12.48 | KotCzarny | china knockoffs - meh |
| 18:13.14 | Linkandzelda | http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Memory-MicroSDHC-UHS-I-Adapter/dp/B00J29BR3Y?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage |
| 18:13.19 | Linkandzelda | this is what i have |
| 18:13.26 | Sicelo009N | KotCzarny: it's something you will know when you've enabled .. so you'd take reasonable care. also, generally you partition the card such that 1st partition is fat |
| 18:13.30 | Linkandzelda | Samsung Memory 32 GB Evo MicroSDHC UHS-I Grade 1 Class 10 Memory Card with SD Adapter |
| 18:13.49 | KotCzarny | sicelo: read this: http://forum.armbian.com/index.php/topic/954-sd-card-performance/ |
| 18:14.37 | Sicelo009N | yes.. |
| 18:15.03 | Sicelo009N | similar info on wmo |
| 18:15.38 | KotCzarny | also, somewhere i've seen info that good class10 card can be much faster than uhs card (if device is missing uhs compatible controller) |
| 18:15.48 | Sicelo009N | so yes, you can try that Linkandzelda if you wish :) |
| 18:17.22 | Linkandzelda | so i could partition this and make partition 1 fat and used for stuff, then partition 2 as swap? what kind of size? |
| 18:17.43 | KotCzarny | 500 megs would do |
| 18:17.47 | Sicelo | check the wiki for recommended sizes, and the reasoning behind |
| 18:18.00 | KotCzarny | even smaller |
| 18:18.13 | Sicelo | apparently 380-something is considered the most efficient, but some use even 2GB. |
| 18:18.35 | KotCzarny | if you need anything more than 500 megs, you are probably doing something wrong |
| 18:18.36 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 18:19.09 | Linkandzelda | wondeing if i could throw a partition for easy debian into it too |
| 18:19.28 | Sicelo | you can |
| 18:19.37 | Linkandzelda | but i dont know how to use easy debian with a partition |
| 18:19.45 | Sicelo | wiki.. :) |
| 18:20.10 | Linkandzelda | still trying to figure out if i can install i3wm on easy debian too, seems the sources give 404 |
| 18:20.15 | Sicelo | still has it in MyDocs .. good enough for my needs |
| 18:20.44 | Linkandzelda | how much do you use it? |
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| 18:21.11 | Sicelo | ED? 20% of the time maybe |
| 18:21.26 | Linkandzelda | and what kind of things is it useful for? |
| 18:21.33 | Linkandzelda | i only just installed it this morning |
| 18:22.10 | Sicelo | i use if for libreoffice mostly .. have this spreadsheet that nothing else on N900 can open |
| 18:22.34 | Linkandzelda | i see |
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| 18:23.52 | Sicelo009N | and also for learning C :) |
| 18:24.10 | KotCzarny | you can learn c without ed too ;) |
| 18:24.58 | Sicelo009N | i don't want to install build stuff on N900 itself |
| 18:25.22 | KotCzarny | you only need gcc |
| 18:25.40 | KotCzarny | which is quite likely you have already |
| 18:25.54 | Sicelo | i don't |
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| 18:26.20 | Sicelo009N | No packages found matching gcc. |
| 18:27.17 | Linkandzelda | it would be cool to make some n900 apps, but not sure what to make |
| 18:27.38 | Sicelo | for building the few n900 applications i've built, i use SB |
| 18:28.17 | KotCzarny | Linkandzelda: there are requests on tmo |
| 18:28.45 | Sicelo | Linkandzelda: saw that people still looking for an N900 pr0n application |
| 18:28.47 | Sicelo | :D |
| 18:29.14 | KotCzarny | sicelo: what's wrong with images.google.com/?q=boobs ? |
| 18:29.44 | Sicelo | inconvenience maybe? history? :p |
| 18:29.52 | KotCzarny | pah :P |
| 18:30.06 | KotCzarny | imgur.com/r/gonewild works too ;) |
| 18:30.07 | Linkandzelda | Sicelo: for real? haha |
| 18:30.09 | KotCzarny | need more? |
| 18:30.38 | KotCzarny | what a time to be alive, where you can simply ask search engine for fresh b00bies |
| 18:30.40 | Linkandzelda | could make a browser simply for that imgur sub |
| 18:31.13 | Sicelo | no one ever specified exactly what the application should do |
| 18:31.25 | Linkandzelda | but im not sure thats the app i want to grace my n900 with first... |
| 18:31.40 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 18:31.49 | Sicelo | Linkandzelda: also depends on your skills .. |
| 18:32.03 | Sicelo | you could help ceene with yappari |
| 18:32.07 | KotCzarny | one thing to note, browsing (big) images on n900 results in swapping |
| 18:32.17 | Linkandzelda | how big? |
| 18:32.20 | KotCzarny | which requires app to manage memory efficiently |
| 18:32.24 | KotCzarny | just do your math |
| 18:32.40 | KotCzarny | 2000x1500x3bytes |
| 18:32.55 | KotCzarny | add scaling buffers, a bit of cache, libs |
| 18:32.55 | Sicelo | or, help our kernel hackers .. |
| 18:32.59 | Sicelo | etc. |
| 18:33.11 | Sicelo | why 3 bytes? |
| 18:33.15 | KotCzarny | 24bpp |
| 18:33.26 | KotCzarny | you have to decode those jpegs usually |
| 18:33.28 | Sicelo009N | ah yes |
| 18:35.53 | KotCzarny | sicelo, and 2000x1500 is quite conservative |
| 18:36.53 | Sicelo | the Intranet at work simply chokes my N900 :) |
| 18:36.59 | Sicelo | too many pics |
| 18:37.02 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 18:37.04 | Linkandzelda | my skills are not very good, but it would be fun to use the n900 to finally learn python |
| 18:37.28 | Sicelo | at times i've even got a reboot from browsing some parts of it |
| 18:37.30 | KotCzarny | Linkandzelda: start by writing your runner app widget |
| 18:38.11 | Linkandzelda | hmm, there's a couple ways to go about that i suppose |
| 18:38.34 | KotCzarny | start wuth some example/tutorial |
| 18:38.39 | KotCzarny | *with |
| 18:39.07 | KotCzarny | but keep in mind ram is scarce on n900 |
| 18:40.05 | Linkandzelda | yes |
| 18:40.17 | Linkandzelda | well i'd need to keep things optimised to hell and back |
| 18:40.25 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 18:40.33 | Sicelo009N | Linkandzelda: N900 is terrible device :p |
| 18:40.39 | KotCzarny | simmilar story with battery |
| 18:40.55 | KotCzarny | sicelo: heathen :P n900 is our saviour! |
| 18:41.17 | Sicelo009N | HTC 10 is receiving some great reviews |
| 18:41.20 | Sicelo009N | :D |
| 18:41.23 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 18:41.27 | KotCzarny | droid? |
| 18:41.54 | Sicelo009N | and, was it Sony who was working on getting mainline kernels on the Xperias.. |
| 18:42.16 | KotCzarny | sony? mainline? gpl? |
| 18:42.23 | KotCzarny | sure not mixing things up? |
| 18:42.26 | Sicelo009N | something like that, |
| 18:42.27 | Linkandzelda | i have a galaxy note 3 running android, but im really bored of android |
| 18:42.32 | Sicelo009N | let me go check |
| 18:43.44 | Sicelo | KotCzarny: http://developer.sonymobile.com/2016/02/17/work-on-the-mainline-kernel-for-open-xperia-devices/ |
| 18:43.59 | Sicelo | Linkandzelda: android has apps :p |
| 18:44.04 | Sicelo | and apps |
| 18:44.24 | KotCzarny | hrm |
| 18:44.38 | KotCzarny | something is fishy about that sony experiment |
| 18:44.40 | KotCzarny | :P |
| 18:44.59 | KotCzarny | sicelo: n900 has oscp :P |
| 18:45.19 | Sicelo009N | port it to android and iOS, and make money, heh |
| 18:45.23 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 18:45.34 | KotCzarny | i would need a manager for that |
| 18:45.45 | Sicelo009N | Linkandzelda can be your manager |
| 18:46.15 | buZz | Linkandzelda: are you the Linkandzelda from #cryptorush ? :) |
| 18:46.29 | Linkandzelda | buZz: yes, long time no see |
| 18:46.34 | buZz | waves |
| 18:48.13 | KotCzarny | sicelo: http://developer.sonymobile.com/2014/06/02/alin-jerpelea-from-cyanogenmods-freexperia-team-joins-sonys-developer-program/ |
| 18:48.19 | KotCzarny | it's the guy from your post |
| 18:49.45 | Sicelo | two years ago, omg! |
| 18:49.56 | Linkandzelda | buZz: still into alts? |
| 18:50.02 | buZz | Linkandzelda: totally :) |
| 18:50.16 | buZz | hmm, that sony opensource project looks to be focussed at random qualcomm devices |
| 18:50.21 | buZz | not specifically sony |
| 18:50.30 | Sicelo | i wonder how far sony will go with this |
| 18:50.47 | KotCzarny | it looks like maemo situation in nokia |
| 18:50.58 | KotCzarny | some ideas, some small projects |
| 18:51.22 | KotCzarny | maybe they will release something, then if it catches on it will get corporatized then killed |
| 18:51.24 | buZz | well i dont think nokia ever went mainline? |
| 18:51.45 | buZz | at least, the mainlining efforts never came from them |
| 18:52.12 | Sicelo | i'd say nokia did go as mainline as far as situation at the time allowed |
| 18:52.21 | KotCzarny | buzz: i'm talking about some unusual idea born in the corpo (quite under the big radar) |
| 18:52.33 | Sicelo | buZz: who did the efforts come from? |
| 18:53.23 | Sicelo | i'm not saying you're wrong by the way .. genuine question |
| 18:53.36 | buZz | Sicelo: trying to find that |
| 18:54.49 | buZz | seems linaro had big involvement |
| 18:55.15 | buZz | and samsung :P lol |
| 18:55.30 | Sicelo | um .. where is that? :) |
| 18:55.41 | Sicelo | you mean after MS crisi? |
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| 18:57.47 | Sicelo | i seem to remember in kernel, there are lots of @nokia.com contributions. in gnome too, e.g. yesterday someone showed how tracker is braindead, and pasted a link to gnome pages, who again you find nokia contributions |
| 18:58.24 | Sicelo | let's hope Sony does better :) |
| 18:58.28 | Linkandzelda | Sicelo: so what apps on android do you use that you want on n900? or is it just in general that it has a ton more apps xD |
| 18:58.57 | Sicelo | Linkandzelda: will neveeeeer use Android or iOS as long as my N900 lives/works :) |
| 18:59.46 | Sicelo | if they completely die (i have 2), i might move to Tizen instead of Android |
| 19:00.28 | Sicelo | probably would have said Jolla .. but seems fate hasn't been to good on them |
| 19:01.21 | Sicelo | Linkandzelda: we're fanboys here, eh? :>) |
| 19:03.52 | Sicelo | wut! Jolla tablet is actually available? |
| 19:04.33 | Linkandzelda | Sicelo: it feels nostalgic to be back on n900 after 5-6 years |
| 19:06.32 | Sicelo | for me .. N900 is my laptop. i don't own a laptop, so it's my everything. if N900 coan't do something, then most likely i don't need that something so much :) |
| 19:06.38 | Sicelo | *can't |
| 19:20.36 | stryngs | wtf.... |
| 19:20.45 | stryngs | Do ou at least have an external keyboard Sicelo ? |
| 19:20.56 | stryngs | I can't imagine typing on that keyboard for more than like 2 commands at most... |
| 19:23.01 | Sicelo009N | no, i don't. you are most welcome to send me an SU-8W or a thinkpad stow-away. i'd appreciate |
| 19:24.14 | Sicelo009N | typing on N900 is just fine for me. i come from Nokia 9300i |
| 19:24.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | just a bit more about standby times: http://paste.opensuse.org/96469249 |
| 19:24.50 | Sicelo009N | i cannot afford any of the nice stowaway keyboards, and they are not even sold locally, complicating things more |
| 19:31.00 | KotCzarny | i could send you my old stowaway |
| 19:31.09 | KotCzarny | its not that nice (ie. a bit wobbly) |
| 19:31.18 | ceene | Sicelo009N: sorry to hear about you being banned again :/ |
| 19:31.29 | ceene | i don't know whay may have triggered it |
| 19:31.36 | Sicelo009N | KotCzarny: :) |
| 19:31.39 | KotCzarny | n900 is a lot steadier because it's held and because it's smaller/lighter |
| 19:32.00 | Sicelo009N | ceene: it's okay :) |
| 19:32.41 | KotCzarny | ceene: WA making it hard for old protocol users? |
| 19:32.52 | KotCzarny | and trying to discourage from continuing? |
| 19:33.22 | Sicelo009N | KotCzarny: how much? |
| 19:33.32 | KotCzarny | sicelo: shipping costs |
| 19:33.56 | KotCzarny | or advertising oscp for a while maybe? |
| 19:34.00 | Sicelo009N | :p |
| 19:34.48 | Sicelo009N | if you ported it to iOS/Android, I'd find you users in a moment. i'm the only N900 user I know. the two others have dead N900 now |
| 19:34.53 | Sicelo009N | :) |
| 19:35.05 | ceene | he's still got to release it all |
| 19:35.23 | ceene | i haven't pestered him enough |
| 19:35.29 | Sicelo009N | ceene: it's a pity i don't have any specific info myself to see if anything can be learned |
| 19:35.43 | Sicelo009N | ceene: you mean coderus? |
| 19:35.57 | ceene | i mean KotCzarny and his oscp |
| 19:36.02 | KotCzarny | ceene, add full protocol debug/dump, it seems to not take long for WA to act up |
| 19:36.26 | KotCzarny | as for releasing, will do it, really will |
| 19:36.57 | KotCzarny | my personal life changed a bit which makes it a bit harder to find motivation/time |
| 19:37.02 | ceene | it's not that easy, there's two steps of the protocol, they plain text jabber one and the binary coded |
| 19:37.40 | ceene | and also some bans occur just due to talking to people who hasn't added to their contacts list |
| 19:37.53 | ceene | so WA thinks you're spamming |
| 19:38.14 | KotCzarny | disallow that then? |
| 19:38.32 | KotCzarny | or queue messages until the other person accepted the invite? |
| 19:38.39 | ceene | i can't know if the other party has you on their agenda |
| 19:38.49 | KotCzarny | hrm |
| 19:38.56 | KotCzarny | official app does it somehow |
| 19:39.04 | KotCzarny | doesnt' it? |
| 19:39.09 | ceene | don't know |
| 19:39.15 | Sicelo009N | it's a crazy thing Whatsapp |
| 19:39.17 | ceene | maybe they too get banned |
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| 19:40.05 | Sicelo009N | ceene: i've got a third number ;) |
| 19:40.18 | Sicelo009N | although for now i don't feel like registering it |
| 19:40.39 | KotCzarny | https://www.quora.com/WhatsApp-What-got-me-banned-from-Whatsapp-and-how-do-I-unban-myself |
| 19:40.43 | KotCzarny | quite a list |
| 19:43.15 | KotCzarny | i wonder if yappari is 'illegal version of the application' |
| 19:44.24 | Linkandzelda | how do i fix broken packages in easy debian? |
| 19:45.30 | Linkandzelda | Sicelo009N: do you use the same whatsapp account on any other place? |
| 19:46.20 | KotCzarny | Whatsapp Anti-Ban Mod |
| 19:46.21 | KotCzarny | lol |
| 19:47.49 | Sicelo | Linkandzelda: toldya. only N900 for me. ;) |
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| 19:59.40 | ceene | i'd like for whatsapp to die sooooon |
| 20:00.36 | ceene | it's like people has just recently discovered that the internet allows relay chat |
| 20:01.04 | ceene | and they think whatsapp has invented that |
| 20:06.29 | Sicelo009N | indeed |
| 20:07.33 | ceene | i can't receive messages from my SO now, due to encryption |
| 20:07.43 | ceene | she's just updated her wa |
| 20:07.50 | Sicelo009N | Lumia? |
| 20:08.37 | ceene | she's gonna try to go back, but as far as i know, once you enable full encryption, you can't revert back, to avoid protocol downgrade attacks |
| 20:08.42 | ceene | nope, android |
| 20:09.15 | Sicelo009N | ah, Android? if she sends a lot, you'll start receiving. had that a few weeks ago. after receiving 64 messages from him, then i started receiving properly |
| 20:09.40 | ceene | 64? |
| 20:09.43 | ceene | lol |
| 20:10.21 | Sicelo | yup. all 64 were as i posted on the thread |
| 20:11.30 | Sicelo | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1502721&postcount=1362 |
| 20:12.17 | ceene | she's spamming me to test |
| 20:13.08 | ceene | i haven't received that message of your snapshot, though |
| 20:13.46 | Sicelo | she's receiving your messages though? |
| 20:13.55 | ceene | yes |
| 20:22.46 | ceene | no luck |
| 20:22.57 | ceene | i think yappari is now almost useless :/ |
| 20:23.23 | ceene | i have to upgrade protocol, and finally encryption |
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| 20:23.47 | Sicelo009N | :( |
| 20:24.02 | Sicelo009N | i saw you did something new in github |
| 20:24.19 | ceene | just version update to let us login |
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| 20:24.35 | ceene | ah, and i've started develop-libwa |
| 20:24.53 | ceene | to port yappari to coderus lib, which implements cipher |
| 20:25.01 | ceene | but iit's a big work ahead |
| 20:30.00 | ceene | i should go and explain all of this on the thread |
| 20:30.29 | ceene | lots of n900 to buy cheap |
| 20:33.46 | Sicelo | ah .. they are really banning us .. just now someone posted on tmo .. connection closed too |
| 20:36.23 | ceene | :( |
| 20:37.34 | ceene | i'll be posting tomorrow |
| 20:38.07 | ceene | the chats-api guys are upgrading their protocol |
| 20:38.25 | ceene | i may do it by myself ealier using latest s40 |
| 20:38.39 | ceene | but without encryption i don't know if it'll work |
| 20:39.13 | Sicelo | you've ve really done your best :) |
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| 20:41.14 | ceene | it saddens me, though |
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| 21:07.40 | ceene | they've added a third dict, which complicates things a bit more |
| 21:08.31 | bencoh | they removed support for current proto? or did they just break backward compat as usual? |
| 21:09.33 | Linkandzelda | is there a way to access easy debian chroot from sshing into my n900 from pc? |
| 21:09.51 | ceene | debbie-sue |
| 21:09.54 | Sicelo009N | yes. debbie |
| 21:09.58 | ceene | https://github.com/mgp25/Chat-API/wiki/WhatsApp-incoming-updates |
| 21:09.59 | Sicelo009N | that too |
| 21:10.12 | ceene | a bit of each, bencoh |
| 21:10.25 | Linkandzelda | thats awesome, thanks |
| 21:10.34 | Linkandzelda | is there any other OS chroots? |
| 21:10.48 | ceene | i don't know if i can contiinue with this shit |
| 21:11.02 | ceene | i've been saying that exact phrase for too long now |
| 21:11.16 | bencoh | indeed :( |
| 21:11.34 | Sicelo009N | Linkandzelda: in the early days, chroots of Arch, Fedora, Ubuntu, etc. were available. but overally Debian has survived them all |
| 21:11.58 | Sicelo009N | what you need from the others? linux = linux :) |
| 21:12.03 | ceene | chats-api seems a good thing too |
| 21:12.22 | ceene | so... don't know, maybe someone could write a web interface to use it |
| 21:12.41 | Linkandzelda | Sicelo009N: just not sure how to fix the sources on this easy debian |
| 21:12.46 | ceene | i for sure can't write html and css and all of that |
| 21:12.58 | ceene | Linkandzelda: search for archives.debian.org |
| 21:13.09 | ceene | old distros continue to live there |
| 21:13.30 | ceene | or end up dying there is another way to say the same thing |
| 21:13.34 | Sicelo009N | Linkandzelda: maybe start off with a good image? which image you have? i use the wheezy one, and wheezy is still 'live' |
| 21:13.53 | ceene | well, gotta go to sleep now |
| 21:14.01 | ceene | cya guys! |
| 21:14.09 | Linkandzelda | Sicelo009N: do you have a link? i just got the "estel" lzma file |
| 21:14.10 | Sicelo009N | take care ceene |
| 21:15.55 | Sicelo | Linkandzelda: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1464877&postcount=3178 |
| 21:19.39 | Linkandzelda | Sicelo: thanks, did you try the jessie one? |
| 21:20.27 | Linkandzelda | im not even sure how to mount/chroot into these .img images |
| 21:21.22 | Sicelo | no. i just chose wheezy |
| 21:21.42 | Sicelo | you edit /home/user/.chroot to point to the image you want |
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| 21:22.23 | Linkandzelda | ok cool, sounds easy enough |
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| 22:11.28 | Linkandzelda | Sicelo: im in the debian jessie chroot, working like a charm with sources. thanks |
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