| 00:35.48 | *** join/#maemo krnlyng (~liar@77.116.82.117.wireless.dyn.drei.com) |
| 00:45.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, been afk |
| 00:46.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | could anybody please help a windows-7 noob how to configure a NIC to 192.168.1.11/48 on that friggin system? |
| 01:15.13 | *** join/#maemo cnj__ (~matt@cl-598.bos-01.us.sixxs.net) |
| 01:26.43 | *** join/#maemo flo_lap (~fuchs@Maemo/community/contributor/florian) |
| 01:32.15 | *** join/#maemo eMHa_ (~mh@p579DB30A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 01:43.11 | *** join/#maemo robotanarchy (~robotanar@x4e322dc4.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 01:49.26 | *** join/#maemo RedM (~redw@89-76-164-87.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 01:51.28 | *** join/#maemo at1as (~at1as@kurios.r4780y.com) |
| 01:54.37 | *** join/#maemo RedW (~redw@89-76-164-87.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 02:24.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | nevermind |
| 02:24.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | particularly not /48 ;-) |
| 02:51.27 | *** join/#maemo krnlyng (~liar@178.114.16.202.wireless.dyn.drei.com) |
| 03:02.09 | *** join/#maemo lxp1 (~lxp@unaffiliated/lxp) |
| 03:06.59 | *** join/#maemo lobito (~lobito@190.177.211.147) |
| 03:10.12 | *** join/#maemo vahe (~funtoo@130.193.124.135) |
| 03:11.59 | *** join/#maemo xray256_ (~xray256@90.213.9.29) |
| 03:21.37 | *** join/#maemo DocScrutinizer05 (~saturn@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 03:23.33 | *** join/#maemo Luke-Jr (~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr) |
| 03:29.28 | *** join/#maemo pagurus (~user@pD950FB4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:30.18 | *** join/#maemo pagurus (~user@pD950FB4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:30.19 | *** join/#maemo pagurus` (~user@pD950FB4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:31.18 | *** join/#maemo pagurus` (~user@pD950FB4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:32.18 | *** join/#maemo pagurus` (~user@pD950FB4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:33.19 | *** join/#maemo pagurus` (~user@pD950FB4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:34.18 | *** join/#maemo pagurus` (~user@pD950FB4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:35.18 | *** join/#maemo pagurus` (~user@pD950FB4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:41.58 | *** join/#maemo azkay (~azkay@pa49-182-9-226.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 03:44.33 | azkay | Baaaaack, until I finish my last two sips of beer |
| 03:44.49 | azkay | But then the question is, should I order another beer? Or move to the library with the real internet, and not waste my data |
| 03:48.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | here it's pretty hard to order beer at this time :-) |
| 03:48.52 | azkay | Oh? What's the time? It's 1:48pm here :P |
| 03:49.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | cmd: Mi 13. Apr 05:49:16 CEST 2016 |
| 03:49.32 | azkay | Yeah, that's a problem :P |
| 03:51.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | different antenna doesn't make too much sense. But connecting USB or headset cable makes much sense since every antenna is a dipole, and the GND half on N900 is actually pretty lame |
| 03:51.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | the question is: what do you want to achive? |
| 03:52.10 | azkay | I see. More range for the transmitter, I was thinking of replacing the stylus with some sort of antenna |
| 03:52.35 | azkay | Doesn't seem to want to reach from my pocket to my head as it is |
| 03:52.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | ideally for a better antenna for FMTX you insert a 70cm long thick stiff wire into the stylus slot |
| 03:52.59 | azkay | But that could also just be the antenna on the headphones are terrible :P So I'll need to do more testing |
| 03:53.05 | azkay | I see |
| 03:53.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | you also can pump up the TX power quite a few dBm |
| 03:53.42 | azkay | Yeah I think I already maxed that |
| 03:54.00 | azkay | I'll be back in a bit, anyway. Moving to the library so I don't suck up my measley 1.5gb/mo |
| 03:54.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | the chip can do considerably more than what's allowed and implemented in stock maemo |
| 03:54.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | I hardly can suck up 1.5MB/mo with IRC ;-9 |
| 03:54.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 04:00.44 | Sicelo | ceene: yappari getting IO error for 'everyone' |
| 04:14.23 | *** join/#maemo RedW (~redw@89-76-164-87.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 04:15.26 | *** join/#maemo azkay (~azkay@203.17.70.53) |
| 04:20.11 | *** join/#maemo Church- (~hatter@unaffiliated/church-) |
| 04:20.17 | Church- | Evening |
| 04:29.23 | azkay | Afternoon |
| 04:32.32 | *** join/#maemo Maxdaman1us (~Maxdamant@unaffiliated/maxdamantus) |
| 04:40.42 | *** join/#maemo Maxdamantus (~Maxdamant@unaffiliated/maxdamantus) |
| 04:41.51 | *** join/#maemo vahe (~funtoo@130.193.124.135) |
| 04:48.41 | KotCzarny | Morning |
| 05:33.44 | Vajb | Sicelo: i get connection closed by server. Or this is same thing? |
| 05:36.12 | Church- | Anybody feel like doing some compiling? :) |
| 05:36.35 | KotCzarny | what are we, gentoo users? |
| 05:37.54 | Church- | Hopefully. |
| 05:38.12 | Sicelo | Vajb: yes. if you look in your log, you'll see the IO error, followed by connection closed.. |
| 05:43.27 | Sicelo | Church-: compiling what? |
| 05:44.07 | Church- | Trying to newsbeuter running on the 900. Been having a hell of a time. |
| 05:45.10 | Church- | to get* |
| 05:54.22 | *** join/#maemo arcean (~arcean@62.159.77.166) |
| 06:12.30 | azkay | What problem(s) are you having? |
| 06:29.34 | *** join/#maemo heroux (~heroux@50708323.static.ziggozakelijk.nl) |
| 07:23.02 | Oksana | wonders where humans' activity is going, if both http://talk.maemo.org and Freenode channels are quite quiet... |
| 07:23.28 | *** join/#maemo florian (~fuchs@Maemo/community/contributor/florian) |
| 07:25.09 | KotCzarny | no issues == perfect device :P |
| 07:27.14 | Wizzup | hehe |
| 07:27.24 | *** join/#maemo vahe (~funtoo@130.193.124.135) |
| 07:27.25 | Wizzup | I think maemo is less quiet than it used to be |
| 07:33.23 | ceene | Sicelo: :( |
| 07:33.27 | ceene | even for me? |
| 07:33.28 | ceene | :D |
| 07:33.32 | ceene | i haven't looked at my phone yet |
| 07:35.13 | ceene | yep, it's broken |
| 07:42.59 | *** join/#maemo Pali (~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali) |
| 07:48.32 | ceene | and there it is, fixed once again |
| 07:51.44 | ceene | http://www.filedropper.com/showdownload.php/yappari2027armel |
| 08:25.42 | *** join/#maemo FIQ (~FIQ@prgmr/customer/fiq) |
| 08:26.10 | *** join/#maemo jskarvad (jskarvad@redhat/jskarvad) |
| 08:49.46 | *** join/#maemo Kabouik (~quassel@147.99.219.229) |
| 08:58.03 | Sicelo | ceene: lol, looks like it broke again :/ |
| 08:58.19 | Sicelo | or i'm having network problem? hmm |
| 08:59.32 | *** join/#maemo Maxdaman1us (~Maxdamant@unaffiliated/maxdamantus) |
| 09:05.08 | *** join/#maemo Maxdamantus (~Maxdamant@unaffiliated/maxdamantus) |
| 09:21.59 | *** join/#maemo eMHa_ (~mh@185.36.21.1) |
| 09:22.50 | bencoh | or whatsapp is |
| 09:27.54 | KotCzarny | definitely whatsapp |
| 09:28.04 | KotCzarny | broken by design |
| 09:38.37 | *** join/#maemo SmilyOrg (~SmilzOrg@93-103-95-89.dynamic.t-2.net) |
| 09:42.34 | *** join/#maemo N-Mi (~nicolas@LMontsouris-657-1-196-48.w90-63.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 09:42.34 | *** join/#maemo N-Mi (~nicolas@calvix/staff/N-Mi) |
| 09:42.37 | *** join/#maemo vahe2 (~funtoo@130.193.124.135) |
| 09:42.45 | *** join/#maemo thuttu77_2 (~thuttu77@82-181-33-81.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 09:43.23 | *** join/#maemo Mekkis_ (~Mekkis@nl.ti4200.info) |
| 09:45.03 | *** join/#maemo TriztAway (~user@ukko.aho.hk) |
| 09:49.27 | *** join/#maemo chem|st (~mayor@svn.unix-ag.uni-kl.de) |
| 09:51.30 | *** join/#maemo Maxdaman1us (~Maxdamant@unaffiliated/maxdamantus) |
| 09:54.32 | *** join/#maemo Maxdamantus (~Maxdamant@unaffiliated/maxdamantus) |
| 09:58.27 | *** join/#maemo bruce_lee (~neo@unaffiliated/bruce-lee/x-7462768) |
| 10:12.31 | *** join/#maemo pagurus (~user@pD950FB4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:13.19 | *** join/#maemo pagurus` (~user@pD950FB4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:13.19 | *** join/#maemo pagurus (~user@pD950FB4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:28.10 | Vajb | working for me now |
| 10:28.17 | *** join/#maemo clopez (~tau@neutrino.es) |
| 10:28.43 | Vajb | ceene is lightning fast fixer :) |
| 10:29.26 | Sicelo | worked for about 30 minutes for me |
| 10:32.10 | *** join/#maemo Cor-Ai_ (~cor-ai@c-7597e355.06-922-7570702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 10:32.29 | *** join/#maemo DocScrutinizer05 (~saturn@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 10:33.18 | *** join/#maemo robotanarchy (~robotanar@x4e322dc4.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 10:38.31 | *** join/#maemo Linkandzelda (~Linkandze@87.98.163.117) |
| 10:38.31 | *** join/#maemo Linkandzelda (~Linkandze@unaffiliated/linkandzelda) |
| 10:38.43 | *** join/#maemo jon_y (~enforcer@2001:e68:4075:5d8b:e01f:8e6d:cdca:d0e5) |
| 10:47.14 | ceene | these are the easy fixes |
| 10:47.22 | ceene | it should be working now |
| 10:47.37 | ceene | there's gonna be a couple protocol changes |
| 10:47.47 | ceene | one is being followed by the guys of chats-api |
| 10:47.50 | ceene | so i'd take that from there |
| 10:47.55 | ceene | or maybe from yowsupo |
| 10:48.03 | ceene | s/yowsupo/yowsup |
| 10:48.16 | ceene | s/yowsupo/yowsup/ |
| 10:48.27 | ceene | infobot: can i correct a miswritten sed expression? |
| 10:48.37 | ceene | s#s/yowsupo/yowsup#s/yowsupo/yowsup/# |
| 10:48.51 | ceene | s/s/yowsupo/yowsup/s/yowsupo/yowsup// |
| 10:48.54 | ceene | i don't think you can |
| 10:48.57 | ceene | s/aa/aa/ |
| 10:49.03 | Sicelo | lol.. you'll get the bot crazy |
| 10:49.04 | ceene | s/aa/bb/ |
| 10:49.09 | ceene | poor thing |
| 10:49.17 | Sicelo | my yappari definitely gone :( |
| 10:49.19 | *** join/#maemo pagurus (~user@pD950FB4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:49.24 | *** join/#maemo Oksana (~chatzilla@Maemo/community/ex-council/Wikiwide) |
| 10:49.34 | Sicelo | hops it's not a ban |
| 10:49.50 | ceene | oh |
| 10:49.53 | ceene | but it shouldn't |
| 10:49.56 | Vajb | im logged in. Didn't try to chat tho |
| 10:49.59 | Sicelo | 2.0.27 worked for like 30 minutes |
| 10:50.02 | ceene | i assume you've restarted it? |
| 10:50.09 | Sicelo | then exact same as before |
| 10:50.16 | ceene | :/ |
| 10:50.23 | ceene | and the log says anything new? |
| 10:50.26 | ceene | i'm logged right now |
| 10:51.22 | Sicelo | There was an IO error: Connection closed by server. |
| 10:51.23 | Sicelo | Connection closed. |
| 10:51.39 | Vajb | yup works for me just now |
| 10:52.01 | Vajb | well didn't got reply yet but it shows msg went through |
| 10:52.11 | ceene | what if you try to re-register? |
| 10:52.21 | Sicelo | i'll try |
| 10:52.22 | ceene | i'm afraid you may be banned :/ |
| 10:52.38 | Sicelo | ah, lol. well, time to bring in my other number then |
| 10:53.15 | ceene | how many numbers do you have? |
| 10:54.00 | Sicelo | ah yes, i'm blocked. |
| 10:54.09 | Sicelo | registration log shows |
| 10:54.13 | ceene | sorry |
| 10:54.16 | ceene | don't know why, though |
| 10:54.28 | ceene | maybe the insistence on login while you're using an old version |
| 10:54.40 | Sicelo | i have 3 numbers |
| 11:00.06 | ceene | i only have two :) |
| 11:00.27 | Sicelo | :) |
| 11:01.25 | *** join/#maemo amospalla (~amospalla@unaffiliated/amospalla) |
| 11:01.53 | Sicelo | any yappari user successfully receiving messages from lumia users? |
| 11:05.31 | *** join/#maemo pagurus (~user@pD950FB4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:20.23 | *** join/#maemo MikaT (~mtapoja@projects.sse.fi) |
| 11:33.29 | *** join/#maemo disco_stu_droid (~wrt54gl@190.211.82.70) |
| 11:35.02 | Vajb | just got one from galaxy 2 tough |
| 11:35.22 | *** join/#maemo KotCzarny (ariel@31.135.195.151) |
| 11:35.30 | *** join/#maemo povbot_ (~supybot@178-236-196-236.csc.lt) |
| 11:36.18 | Sicelo | yes, i can receive from all android and iphone just fine. but not lumia |
| 11:36.31 | *** join/#maemo ecc3g (~eccerr0r@2602:46:3913:b400:5054:ff:fe37:7e04) |
| 11:37.52 | *** join/#maemo shamus (~shmaus@ip-206-192-194-12.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) |
| 11:48.20 | Linkandzelda | DocScrutinizer05: sorry i went to sleep, what is jrtools? |
| 11:51.31 | *** join/#maemo ruskie (ruskie@sourcemage/mage/ruskie) |
| 11:59.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools |
| 11:59.58 | infobot | hmm... jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 12:17.18 | *** join/#maemo pagurus (~user@pD950FB4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:27.16 | Linkandzelda | DocScrutinizer05: is there an explanation for why that speedpatch doesnt work? |
| 12:27.22 | Linkandzelda | ~speedpatch |
| 12:27.22 | infobot | somebody said speedpatch was http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1012405#post1012405 >>first i don't realy understand what does this patch do (that is why it is called miracle patch)<< [/quote original-author-of-speedpatch], or http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1328060&postcount=3325 [bug report] |
| 12:29.00 | KotCzarny | Linkandzelda: two words: placebo effects |
| 12:29.03 | KotCzarny | ~crappatch |
| 12:29.03 | infobot | i guess speedpatch is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1012405#post1012405 >>first i don't realy understand what does this patch do (that is why it is called miracle patch)<< [/quote original-author-of-speedpatch], or http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1328060&postcount=3325 [bug report] |
| 12:30.24 | KotCzarny | Linkandzelda: basically to speed up n900 you have 2 options, overclock cpu (not recommended) and increase ram available (not much to do apart from disabling some packages) |
| 12:30.50 | KotCzarny | http://wiki.maemo.org/Slimming_OS |
| 12:31.10 | Linkandzelda | KotCzarny: alright, i'll check that out. thanks |
| 12:31.10 | KotCzarny | you can try some things from here (especially if you dont use particular apps) |
| 12:31.55 | Sicelo | and installing thumb can help to some extent |
| 12:32.18 | *** join/#maemo krnlyng (~liar@178.114.16.202.wireless.dyn.drei.com) |
| 12:32.19 | Linkandzelda | i heard about that thumb, not entirely confident about what it is and if it has any implications |
| 12:32.48 | KotCzarny | thumb is special cpu mode which results in ~1/2..1/3 smaller apps |
| 12:32.53 | KotCzarny | ~cssu-thumb |
| 12:32.53 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, cssu-thumb is <Doc_Scrutinizer05> [thumb2 microb] indeed seems to render like mad, subjectively, or http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1220597, or http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb |
| 12:33.16 | *** join/#maemo lamerx (~7350@195.24.90.253) |
| 12:33.20 | Linkandzelda | how does this bot work? does it learn? |
| 12:33.22 | KotCzarny | it's marked as testing, but many people use it without problem |
| 12:33.42 | KotCzarny | bot just remembers factoids from the channel, also can be taught |
| 12:35.33 | Linkandzelda | neat |
| 12:38.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: I strongly recommedn to consider thumb only later. It's prolly stable but has some implications regarding kernels to use, restore, etc |
| 12:38.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | you don't want to*start* with thumb right away |
| 12:39.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~tell Linkandzelda about query |
| 12:39.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | then help |
| 12:40.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues cloud-7.de |
| 12:41.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~aegis-no-thanks |
| 12:41.35 | infobot | aegis-no-thanks is, like, http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/openmode_kernel_PR1.1/, or http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/1.2/openmode-kernel/, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1178281#post1178281 |
| 12:42.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~mhd |
| 12:42.19 | infobot | rumour has it, mhd is [Modified Hildon Desktop] included and improved in ~CSSU, also see ~matan, or http://maemo.cloud-7.de/mirrors/matan/my.svgalib.org/repo/Modified_Hildon_Desktop.html DO NOT INSTALL MHD when you have CSSU!! the CSSU version is more recent! |
| 12:43.44 | KotCzarny | Linkandzelda: definitely you want some version of cssu |
| 12:43.51 | KotCzarny | (better everything) |
| 12:43.56 | Linkandzelda | i have cssu testing i think |
| 12:43.59 | KotCzarny | especially desktop and app manager |
| 12:44.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | open systemsettings |
| 12:44.14 | *** join/#maemo SpeedEvil (~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 12:44.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | there you got §About CSSU" |
| 12:44.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~s/§/"/ |
| 12:45.27 | Linkandzelda | version: 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo11 |
| 12:45.32 | Linkandzelda | flavor: testing |
| 12:45.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok |
| 12:47.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | you *want* simple brightness applet |
| 12:47.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | and |
| 12:47.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~bm |
| 12:47.43 | infobot | rumour has it, backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 |
| 12:48.58 | Linkandzelda | strange, im in HAM looking for rootsh. cant find it under system section |
| 12:49.45 | *** join/#maemo krnlyng (~liar@178.114.16.202.wireless.dyn.drei.com) |
| 12:50.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | try "all" |
| 12:50.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | you know you can search simply by typing text? |
| 12:51.16 | Linkandzelda | i did not know that, thanks |
| 12:51.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 12:51.27 | Linkandzelda | i searched "root" and it came back with sudser? |
| 12:51.35 | KotCzarny | magic |
| 12:51.37 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 12:51.51 | Linkandzelda | thats what i want? its not named "rootsh" so im not sure |
| 12:51.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | same works on "desktop" for contacts (char) or phonenumbers (digit) |
| 12:52.02 | KotCzarny | nope, it's rootsh |
| 12:52.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, sudser is crap |
| 12:52.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | you got maemo repos? |
| 12:52.23 | Linkandzelda | ok, then i really dont have rootsh in my list |
| 12:52.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | err replacements for nokia repos |
| 12:52.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe you already installed it? ;-) |
| 12:53.20 | Linkandzelda | i have maemo.org, community ssu, community ssu (testing), then 3 mirrors from maemo repos (nokia apps, ovi, ssu) |
| 12:53.29 | Linkandzelda | and right, i did a lot of stuff last night so maybe i did |
| 12:53.46 | Linkandzelda | yes, i installed it.. now im an idiot |
| 12:53.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | open a xterm (ctrl-shift-X) and type "root" |
| 12:54.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | no worries, I bet everybody did exactly same thing once |
| 12:54.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 12:54.39 | Sicelo | apt-get remove --purge idiot :) |
| 12:54.47 | KotCzarny | most apps are in extras and extras-devel nowadays |
| 12:55.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | apt-get moo |
| 12:55.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~moo |
| 12:55.24 | infobot | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 12:55.33 | Linkandzelda | great |
| 12:55.56 | Linkandzelda | KotCzarny: so its ok for me to switch to extras devel? |
| 12:56.03 | KotCzarny | with care |
| 12:56.19 | Linkandzelda | and what about extras testing, more stuff there? |
| 12:56.25 | KotCzarny | extras-devel is unchecked, anyone can upload anything |
| 12:56.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: you should only temporarily for installing a particular package, then immediately disable it again |
| 12:56.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, you don't need testing |
| 12:56.37 | Linkandzelda | i see |
| 12:56.43 | KotCzarny | but has most recent versions usually |
| 12:56.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | testing is a subset of devel |
| 12:57.02 | Linkandzelda | ok, well i have no idea whats on there and if i need anything from there yet |
| 12:57.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~pkgs |
| 12:57.15 | infobot | from memory, #maemo pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ |
| 12:57.30 | Linkandzelda | thanks |
| 12:57.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | yw :-) |
| 12:57.57 | *** join/#maemo arcean (~arcean@62.159.77.166) |
| 12:58.07 | KotCzarny | idea was to have extras-devel (where devs upload often and early), then they promote package version to -testing (which is meant for testing staff) then testing staff vote package to normal extras for general audience |
| 12:58.41 | KotCzarny | but due to lack of testing staff whole idea fails flat and devs often say 'f*ck it, you want package, just grab it from -devel' |
| 12:58.58 | Linkandzelda | i see |
| 12:59.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | first of all: watch out and treat your USB jack gently and with extreme care |
| 12:59.57 | Linkandzelda | that would suck if it broke, im usually really careful but at night i tend to fumble it in heh |
| 13:00.10 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 13:00.18 | KotCzarny | use backupmenu |
| 13:00.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | don't pull the plug out but rather 'squeeze' it out with thumb and digit finger against the walls of case |
| 13:00.37 | KotCzarny | you can use it as restorepoints |
| 13:00.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | fumbling in is no problem usually |
| 13:01.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~ping |
| 13:01.19 | infobot | ~pong |
| 13:01.34 | Linkandzelda | when i got this n900 off ebay yesterday it was running pwnieexpress, and it had backup menu installed. i took a backup, then tried to restore to a backup that came from this phone from 2011. but it resulted in killing backupmenu and the phone boot looped |
| 13:02.09 | Linkandzelda | DocScrutinizer05: i'll take that into consideration, is it a common flaw for usb ports to bust? |
| 13:02.11 | KotCzarny | maybe kernel incompability |
| 13:02.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, it probably already confronted you with thumb kernel fun |
| 13:02.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~usbfix |
| 13:02.28 | infobot | methinks usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1866, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt |
| 13:02.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 13:02.51 | Linkandzelda | come to think of it i installed kernelpower last night and havent rebooted yet |
| 13:03.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, installing kernel will reboot afaik |
| 13:03.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | uname -a |
| 13:03.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 13:03.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's linux ;-D |
| 13:03.48 | Linkandzelda | says power, so yep seems to have done it already while i didnt notice |
| 13:04.17 | Linkandzelda | and yes, linux ftw. i need to get weechat installed somehow |
| 13:04.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | you prolly also want openssh |
| 13:05.14 | KotCzarny | Linkandzelda: you might try debian packages from lenny (has to be ~glibc-2.5) |
| 13:05.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's extremely conevnient to access terminal on N900 from your PC, via WLAN. Or even browse the complete filesystem with e.g. konqueror sftp://IP-of-your-N900 |
| 13:05.41 | KotCzarny | but check extras-devel first |
| 13:06.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | I also wouldn't want to miss bash |
| 13:06.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~messybox |
| 13:06.24 | infobot | messy... err busybox is meant for lean scripting. Regarding all the missing options and immanent limitations (see su, passwd, nice, ps, diff as used by mc...) it's not really the interactive shell of choice. A lot of people hate busybox because a lot of system integrators don't understand the difference between busybox and a decent user interactive shell plus unix utils |
| 13:07.28 | *** join/#maemo krnlyng (~liar@178.114.16.202.wireless.dyn.drei.com) |
| 13:07.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you're a tiny bit into linux already, you might want syslogd |
| 13:08.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | it ofen helps you out of a "what the heck is going on on N900 now" situations |
| 13:08.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | often even |
| 13:09.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | fun: LED pattern editor |
| 13:09.37 | *** join/#maemo clopez (~tau@neutrino.es) |
| 13:09.40 | Linkandzelda | i installed last night an ssh applet which let me turn ssh on and off |
| 13:09.47 | Linkandzelda | i didnt try SSHing into it yet |
| 13:09.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | useful: edit the shutdown light so it doesn't go to completely off, so you see when the device *really* shuts off after you pressed power button |
| 13:10.18 | Linkandzelda | oh yea that was a pain, i thought it died for a couiple of seconds there |
| 13:10.22 | *** join/#maemo SpeedEvil (~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 13:10.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, switching ssh on and off isn't too useful |
| 13:11.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | proper config of sshd is, though. Only allow root login with root password/sshkey, and block user 'user' login |
| 13:12.50 | Sicelo | has the opposite |
| 13:13.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly works too |
| 13:13.21 | *** join/#maemo at1as (~at1as@kurios.r4780y.com) |
| 13:13.34 | Linkandzelda | my ssh best practices are to never allow root login, and only allow user login. if root is needed i sudo or su directly after logging in as a normal user |
| 13:13.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | well |
| 13:14.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | user "user" usually has no password set, while root always has a password set when you install openssh |
| 13:14.30 | ceene | i had a server of mine being hacked because someone got access to my non privileged user |
| 13:14.37 | ceene | and made a 'su' script replacement |
| 13:14.42 | ceene | which captured root password |
| 13:14.55 | ceene | so in the end i'd rather login directly as root |
| 13:14.59 | KotCzarny | Linkandzelda: but seriously, most (all?) gsm companies do NAT by default |
| 13:15.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: for sure on N900 |
| 13:15.11 | KotCzarny | which means you can only login to your n900 via wifi |
| 13:15.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | also fix sudoers: |
| 13:15.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools |
| 13:15.22 | infobot | jrtools is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 13:15.29 | ceene | KotCzarny: here in spain, there's at least one company which lets you choose wether you want a public ip address or nat |
| 13:15.42 | ceene | you choose gprs.pepephone.com or gprsmov.pepephone.com |
| 13:16.02 | ceene | most others just route you through nat, though |
| 13:16.22 | Sicelo | KotCzarny: my gsm allows incoming connections by default (i was surprised to find this) |
| 13:16.38 | ceene | their recommendation for mobiles phones is to use nat, because it reduces data consumption |
| 13:16.41 | KotCzarny | lucky you |
| 13:16.46 | Linkandzelda | KotCzarny: if i ever login to a wifi ap that isnt mine, i'll turn ssh off usually. but you made me think, is it possible to have a dynamic dns address to access the n900 over its gsm network outside of wifi? |
| 13:16.49 | KotCzarny | no choice here |
| 13:16.50 | ceene | not because nat reduces data consumption on itself |
| 13:17.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | N900 exposed to internet (no NAT) is a very bad thing since your GPRS data TX is eating battery for each inbound ping (or anything else), even when all ports on device are closed |
| 13:17.02 | ceene | but because it avoids receiving port maps, ssh brute force attacks, etc |
| 13:17.20 | ceene | so in the end you receive less data, your battery lasts more and you spend less money on non desired data |
| 13:17.24 | Sicelo | DocScrutinizer05: i just looked at my LED patters .. what is "DeviceSoftOff"? |
| 13:17.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | err, charhing basically |
| 13:17.46 | Linkandzelda | ceene: that sounds like an ugly hack! |
| 13:17.53 | ceene | it is what it is |
| 13:17.58 | ceene | it's a fact, more than a hack |
| 13:18.10 | Sicelo | DocScrutinizer05: there's different patter for charging |
| 13:18.21 | Sicelo | *pattern |
| 13:18.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, not charging while up but charging "act_dead" |
| 13:18.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | afaik at least |
| 13:18.59 | Sicelo | okay |
| 13:19.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc "soft-off" == "act_dead" |
| 13:19.41 | Linkandzelda | my mobile ISP gives me limited data, so i expect they dont allow inbound connections by default |
| 13:19.47 | Linkandzelda | but im not sure, never tried |
| 13:19.56 | KotCzarny | most likely that's the case |
| 13:20.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | hard to actually check |
| 13:20.33 | KotCzarny | you can try ssh'ing from n900 to some shell (to get external ip) then sshing back from that shell |
| 13:20.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | ping your PC's public IP from N900 via GPRS, then run a NMAP against that N900 IP addr from PC |
| 13:21.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | nmap |
| 13:21.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | or do a ping -f while checking power consumption (ideally via bq27200.sh) |
| 13:22.08 | Sicelo | if you have public ip, it should be right on gprs0, so you can find it directly with 'ip a sh gprs0' |
| 13:22.19 | Linkandzelda | im setting a wifi static ip now so i remember the ip |
| 13:22.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | if the pings reach your N900 the TX of modem will eat lots of power |
| 13:22.52 | KotCzarny | sicelo: isp might assign internal ip, yet do snat anyway |
| 13:22.53 | Linkandzelda | i dont have a sim right now so i cant try any of that |
| 13:22.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: you still could suffer IP mapping NAT |
| 13:23.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | dang, rain outside :´( |
| 13:25.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | planned to test a few motorbike / scooter things |
| 13:25.35 | Linkandzelda | is there any way i can slow down the timeout of long pressing keys to get to thier fn equivalent? or a way to toggle fn on and off |
| 13:25.52 | ceene | that can be disabled somewhere in the settings app |
| 13:25.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools |
| 13:25.58 | infobot | hmm... jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 13:26.06 | KotCzarny | yes, you can disable long-press |
| 13:26.16 | KotCzarny | (but removing input method altogether ;) |
| 13:26.28 | Linkandzelda | im half way reading that jrtools page |
| 13:26.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | holler if you find anything non-convenient or incorrect |
| 13:26.55 | KotCzarny | ahm, you dont want to disable it, just making it faster |
| 13:26.57 | Linkandzelda | and i didnt want to disable, i wanted ot make it shorter so i hold for less time. not sure if thaty would actually make things worse or better |
| 13:27.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, shorter. You said longer |
| 13:27.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's a key in gconf for sure |
| 13:27.55 | Linkandzelda | sorry, i said slow down, you're right. i meant speed up. but in this sense "slow down the timeout" i meant as in, make the timeout less... my communication skills fail me |
| 13:28.54 | Linkandzelda | any way to check all keys in gconf? never used gconf before |
| 13:29.19 | KotCzarny | i think there was a crude gui for gconf |
| 13:29.45 | KotCzarny | gconf-editor maybe |
| 13:29.58 | Sicelo | gconftool -R / .. the list is very long .. so you may want to pipe output to less |
| 13:30.17 | Sicelo | gconftool-2 -R / actually |
| 13:31.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | gconftool -R /apps/osso/inputmethod|less +"/ext_kb_long_press_timeout" |
| 13:31.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, had to find it first :-) |
| 13:31.54 | Linkandzelda | i was planning to grep for timeout and would have probably found it as well lol |
| 13:32.45 | ceene | why does ssh -X nokia not work? |
| 13:32.54 | ceene | however, from nokia, ssh -X mypc does work |
| 13:33.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ceene: I think maemo ssh doesn't support -X |
| 13:34.00 | ceene | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.00 | ceene | X11 forwarding request failed on channel 0 |
| 13:34.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | or rather, your PC's X11 doesn't support hildon/matchbox or whatever |
| 13:34.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | also host + |
| 13:34.54 | Linkandzelda | this might be a silly question but, whats the username i use ot login via ssh? root? and how do i set the root pass |
| 13:35.09 | ceene | xhost + doesn't help either |
| 13:36.04 | ceene | default user is 'user' |
| 13:36.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: either root or user |
| 13:36.20 | ceene | and to set the root pass, you'll have to sudo or su, and the use passwd |
| 13:36.40 | Linkandzelda | ok so its just like linux, wondered if its any different |
| 13:36.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, installing opensshd asks for password to set, iirc |
| 13:37.28 | *** join/#maemo oniongar1ic (~milang@tori.tal.org) |
| 13:37.38 | ceene | ah, i didn't remember that |
| 13:38.02 | *** join/#maemo JRHaigh_ (~JRHaigh@ps87731.dreamhost.com) |
| 13:38.20 | Linkandzelda | ok, i changed password for regular user and logged in via ssh from my pc |
| 13:38.22 | *** join/#maemo sledges_ (~sleleiva@static.199.105.76.144.clients.your-server.de) |
| 13:38.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | and the recommended command is "root" |
| 13:38.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | no su |
| 13:39.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | watch out for unexpected behavior when messing with user "user"'s settings. you might end in a bootloop |
| 13:39.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually root account is more robus than user account |
| 13:39.59 | Sicelo | ceene: i can ssh -X |
| 13:40.12 | *** join/#maemo Natch_w (~Natch@h-155-122.a444.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 13:40.12 | ceene | uhm |
| 13:40.14 | ceene | and why can't i? |
| 13:40.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | run-standalone? |
| 13:40.36 | ceene | ii openssh-common 1:5.1p1-6.maemo5 Common files fro ssh server and client |
| 13:40.39 | ceene | ii openssh-server 1:5.1p1-6.maemo5 Secure shell server, an rshd replacement |
| 13:40.50 | Sicelo | for me works the normal way .. don't ned run-standalone or other stuff |
| 13:40.56 | ceene | i can ssh -X from my phone to someplace else, but i can't see my n900 apps on my pc |
| 13:41.32 | Sicelo | tbh you're not missing much .. it's not really useable |
| 13:41.33 | KotCzarny | yeah, bootloop can be caused by an error in ~/.profile |
| 13:41.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, display resolution? windows always fullscreen, etc? |
| 13:41.38 | KotCzarny | how cool is that? |
| 13:41.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | see xephyr |
| 13:41.59 | ceene | i think the error happens directly on ssh -X |
| 13:41.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | in SDK |
| 13:42.04 | ceene | before anything else runs |
| 13:42.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | the debug ssh ;-) |
| 13:42.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | then* |
| 13:42.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: ssh --version? both ends |
| 13:43.13 | *** join/#maemo netkat_ (~me@80.79.126.176) |
| 13:43.27 | Wizzup | ssh -V |
| 13:43.48 | *** join/#maemo Sicelo009N (~sicelo@unaffiliated/sicelo) |
| 13:44.05 | Sicelo009N | Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold |
| 13:44.05 | Sicelo009N | | Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |
| 13:44.05 | Sicelo009N | |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) |
| 13:44.05 | Sicelo009N | ||/ Name Version Description |
| 13:44.08 | Sicelo009N | +++-===================================================-==========================================-============================================ |
| 13:44.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | Wizzup: indeed, crap |
| 13:44.11 | Sicelo009N | ii openssh 1:5.1p1-6.maemo5 Secure shell client and server |
| 13:44.12 | Wizzup | uh-oh. |
| 13:44.14 | Sicelo009N | meh |
| 13:44.21 | ceene | same as mine |
| 13:44.24 | Wizzup | I have managed to forward X connections to my N900 before |
| 13:44.31 | Wizzup | You need to allow forwarding, and use ssh -Y, not ssh - |
| 13:44.33 | Wizzup | not ssh -X |
| 13:44.49 | Sicelo | pc, ii openssh-client 1:6.0p1-4+deb7u3 amd64 |
| 13:44.58 | ceene | sslayer@collins:~$ ssh -Y user@Nokia-N900 |
| 13:44.58 | ceene | X11 forwarding request failed on channel 0 |
| 13:45.00 | ceene | same thing |
| 13:45.05 | Linkandzelda | DocScrutinizer05: so which account should i be using, user or root? in my linux experience i never "use" root for anything but root stuff |
| 13:45.07 | Wizzup | is it allowed by sshd |
| 13:45.08 | Sicelo | -X working fine for me Wizzup :) |
| 13:45.35 | Wizzup | Search for X11Forwarding |
| 13:45.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: all the things I want to do via ssh are root things, on N900 |
| 13:45.42 | Wizzup | also perhaps ssh -vvv -Y user@Nokia-N900 |
| 13:46.17 | ceene | debug1: Remote: No xauth program; cannot forward with spoofing. |
| 13:46.41 | ceene | apt-get install xauth |
| 13:46.48 | Sicelo | tbh i set mine loooong ago. dunno if i had to do something fancy then |
| 13:47.12 | ceene | /usr/bin/X11/xauth: creating new authority file /home/user/.Xauthority |
| 13:47.24 | ceene | it works now! |
| 13:47.25 | ceene | :) |
| 13:47.26 | ceene | thanks! |
| 13:47.30 | Sicelo | :) |
| 13:47.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | I ssh-copy my PC standard user's pubkey to N900 root, then |
| 13:47.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | jr@saturn:~> cat `which iron900` |
| 13:48.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | ssh -q -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null -l root IroN900 $@ |
| 13:48.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900 IP defined in my /etc/hosts |
| 13:49.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: ^^^ |
| 13:50.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2016/04/13/plasma-desktoplh2219.png |
| 13:50.51 | *** join/#maemo ssvb (~ssvb@dsl-espbrasgw1-54fa71-124.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 13:53.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2016/04/13/plasma-desktopSR2219.png |
| 13:55.03 | *** join/#maemo sledges (~sleleiva@unaffiliated/sledgeas) |
| 13:56.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | ceene: document it! |
| 13:57.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you can do in one line, I'll create a factoid for you :-) |
| 13:58.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues xauth |
| 13:58.46 | ceene | well |
| 13:58.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~xauthority |
| 13:58.46 | infobot | i heard xauthority is use: xauth merge /home/user/.Xauthority |
| 13:58.49 | ceene | it's a simple as that, i think |
| 13:59.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~sux |
| 13:59.01 | infobot | methinks sux is su with xauth, to run X apps as root : http://fgouget.free.fr/sux/ or sucks, or "I have an exagerrated opinion about something I don't really know much about." |
| 13:59.12 | ceene | apt-get install xauth is needed on N900 to forward N900's X to another device |
| 13:59.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | please add a ssh -X example cmdline too :-) |
| 14:00.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkey #maemo.*X11 |
| 14:00.55 | ceene | Install xauth on N900 (apt-get install xauth). Run from your PC 'ssh -X user@Nokia-N900', and N900's X will be forwarded to your PC |
| 14:00.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys #maemo.*X11 |
| 14:01.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys #maemo*X11 |
| 14:01.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~#maemo X11 is Install xauth on N900 (apt-get install xauth). Run from your PC 'ssh -X user@Nokia-N900', and N900's X will be forwarded to your PC |
| 14:01.42 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 14:05.25 | Church- | I really do hate compiling at times. |
| 14:05.39 | Church- | Have to get so many libs updated just for a single application. >_> |
| 14:09.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | ceene: HIHI http://wstaw.org/m/2016/04/13/plasma-desktopRG2219.png http://paste.opensuse.org/91056141 |
| 14:10.28 | ceene | that way you can know where's your stolen N900 |
| 14:10.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess xephyr with proper 800*480 (and DPI) will serve better |
| 14:10.38 | ceene | now you need to make it send you an email everytime it goes online |
| 14:11.01 | ceene | i use a tiling manager, so the window gets a fixed size |
| 14:11.05 | ceene | but everything looks giant :) |
| 14:11.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, I guess a ping every once in a while would do. Rest is already in place with gstreamer |
| 14:14.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/16708763 |
| 14:15.47 | ceene | that's a camera streamer? |
| 14:16.06 | Sicelo | for stolen N900, i think smscon is well-thought-out |
| 14:16.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | ceene: yup |
| 14:16.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: yup too |
| 14:17.00 | *** join/#maemo guerby (~guerby@ip165.tetaneutral.net) |
| 14:17.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: though first thing those suckers do is frequently take out SIM |
| 14:17.43 | ceene | however... who would stole an n900? |
| 14:17.51 | ceene | i didn't even know how it worked when i first got mine |
| 14:17.56 | Sicelo | yes. configure it to send mail. i configured mine to |
| 14:17.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | I heard of at least three cases |
| 14:18.19 | Sicelo | ceene: they might steal it because they think it's another 'normal' phone .. or just finders-keepers :) |
| 14:19.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: you might want to browse through maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo a bit |
| 14:20.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh! http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/ |
| 14:21.53 | Linkandzelda | DocScrutinizer05: i'll take a look |
| 14:23.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/session-log_enable-catalogs_README.txt might come in handy, regarding switch-on/off of maemo-extras-devel |
| 14:25.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/98374429 |
| 14:35.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: it seems you already managed to flash and install CSSU. But for next time: |
| 14:35.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing-cmdline |
| 14:35.46 | infobot | flashing-cmdline is, like, http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2016-04-09.log.html#t2016-04-09T01:18:12 |
| 14:39.00 | *** join/#maemo at1as (~at1as@4.16.35.219) |
| 14:39.10 | *** join/#maemo JRHaigh (~JRHaigh@ps87731.dreamhost.com) |
| 14:41.13 | Linkandzelda | DocScrutinizer05: im following jrtools bash and tools script, seems less package isnt found or something? http://pastebin.com/hTgdW9Wc |
| 14:41.50 | *** join/#maemo Natch (~Natch@h-155-122.a444.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 14:43.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | dang, no pastebin likes URLs anymore |
| 14:43.43 | *** join/#maemo BitEvil (~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) |
| 14:44.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/less/ |
| 14:44.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | enable extras-devel or tools repo |
| 14:44.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | err scratch tools it's older version |
| 14:47.01 | Linkandzelda | ok |
| 14:47.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/session-log_enable-catalogs_README.txt ;-) |
| 14:48.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/enable-catalogs |
| 14:48.37 | *** join/#maemo esaym153 (~esaym153@75-1-182-8.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 14:49.23 | *** join/#maemo guerby (~guerby@ip165.tetaneutral.net) |
| 15:33.32 | Linkandzelda | DocScrutinizer05: i installed the extras-devel and installed less, there's a bunch of updates available. should i update them or just disable the repo now? |
| 15:33.58 | *** join/#maemo louisdk (~louisdk@static-5-103-130-65.seas-nve.net) |
| 15:35.30 | *** join/#maemo at1as (~at1as@4.16.35.219) |
| 15:35.41 | KotCzarny | you should never upgrade system with extras-devel enabled |
| 15:36.03 | KotCzarny | unless you are adventurous and not afraid to debug/downgrade/reflash |
| 15:36.17 | Linkandzelda | HAM lists it as "third party software" |
| 15:37.27 | Linkandzelda | KotCzarny: this is the list http://pastebin.com/0BtMCkaa |
| 15:37.30 | *** join/#maemo disco_stu_droid (~wrt54gl@190.211.82.70) |
| 15:37.51 | KotCzarny | as i said, if you are not afraid to reflash :) |
| 15:38.56 | *** join/#maemo xkr47_ (xkr47@2001:14b8:141:5926:5358:9793:2384:6264) |
| 15:39.08 | Linkandzelda | can you tell me why/how it can cause a reflash or potenital damage? some of them look harmless like cooktimer or clipman, then others look more important like hildon-initscripts. i need to make an informed decision on what to upgrade and what not |
| 15:39.27 | *** join/#maemo kraft (kraft@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-lhqopvosykzcgktj) |
| 15:39.30 | *** join/#maemo oniongarlic (~milang@tori.tal.org) |
| 15:39.50 | *** join/#maemo MikaT_ (~mtapoja@projects.sse.fi) |
| 15:40.42 | KotCzarny | extras-devel can contain broken packages that can in turn want to install other broken packages |
| 15:41.28 | KotCzarny | at one time there was broken libX11 there |
| 15:42.13 | Linkandzelda | that makes sense |
| 15:42.52 | KotCzarny | also, debian like systems can go into frenzy loop where you cant downgrade package |
| 15:43.34 | KotCzarny | some people did apt-get upgrade with extras-devel on |
| 15:43.55 | KotCzarny | it all depends on the mix of the installed ones and a bit of luck |
| 15:44.11 | *** join/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net) |
| 15:45.04 | Linkandzelda | i can understand how some seamingly harmless packages would depend on some potenitally dangerious ones causing isues |
| 15:45.29 | KotCzarny | issue is that anyone can upload anything to -devel |
| 15:46.59 | L29Ah | sounds good |
| 15:47.11 | L29Ah | what's n900 bitcoin mining hashrate? |
| 15:47.21 | *** join/#maemo esaym153 (~esaym153@75-1-182-8.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 15:47.37 | KotCzarny | l29ah: not worth the device wear/electricity, that's for sure |
| 15:47.50 | L29Ah | who cares, they aren't mine |
| 15:48.12 | KotCzarny | also, easily discoverable |
| 15:48.27 | KotCzarny | 3h of 'idle' is not normal |
| 15:48.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: do not install updates when extras-devel enabled! unless you checked each single package thoroughly manually and know for sure you want and need that update |
| 15:48.52 | L29Ah | maybe you just have a bad battery |
| 15:48.54 | L29Ah | ;) |
| 15:49.06 | Linkandzelda | DocScrutinizer05: sounds like a pain to sift through every one of those and its dependancies |
| 15:49.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: you can't brick the N900 8basically) |
| 15:49.31 | Linkandzelda | L29Ah: you'll not make a single profit in a whole year of 100 n900s running. charging them up would be more expensive |
| 15:49.48 | L29Ah | ok |
| 15:50.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: generally you find a package you want/need. you check pacjgaes web interface (or google) and find it's only available in devel. You enable devel, install the package and disable devel again. No updates ever |
| 15:51.07 | Linkandzelda | L29Ah: bitcoin mining days ended about 2-3 years ago after asics came out |
| 15:51.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | ...from devel. Unless you know you got a package installed yourself that needs an update |
| 15:51.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | devel packages generally supposed to be broken |
| 15:52.04 | Linkandzelda | DocScrutinizer05: ok. so its a specific case. i shouldnt just update them then if im just curious |
| 15:52.26 | KotCzarny | well, it's quite fresh flash |
| 15:52.28 | KotCzarny | do it |
| 15:52.34 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 15:52.52 | KotCzarny | one learns best by trying/breaking things |
| 15:53.32 | *** join/#maemo esaym153 (~esaym153@75-1-182-8.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 15:53.43 | Linkandzelda | im not gonna KotCzarny hehe |
| 15:53.46 | L29Ah | hmm how do i brick an n900 |
| 15:53.51 | L29Ah | reconfigure some gpios maybe |
| 15:54.00 | KotCzarny | l29ah: by using other bricks |
| 15:54.17 | KotCzarny | it goes like this: brick+n900+brick |
| 15:54.23 | Linkandzelda | dont think it can be bricked, you always have the option to reflash |
| 15:54.45 | KotCzarny | not if you BRICKed it hard enough |
| 15:55.08 | L29Ah | you can't reflash mosfets burned by shorting them |
| 15:55.18 | KotCzarny | not if they are bricked flat |
| 15:57.47 | *** join/#maemo florian (~fuchs@Maemo/community/contributor/florian) |
| 15:58.00 | KotCzarny | Linkandzelda: actually there is a high chance that nothing bad would happen on upgrade |
| 15:58.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | L29Ah: you really wanna know? |
| 15:59.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | I know a few tricks (or let's call it hw flaws to exploit) to damage N900. But it's pretty hard to do |
| 15:59.27 | Linkandzelda | turns away and covers his eyes |
| 15:59.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | possibly your best option: overclocking |
| 16:00.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | in N900 it's impossible to overcharge batery, otherwise I had suggested that ;-) |
| 16:01.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | nuking CAL is annoying, some would call such a device 'bricked' since it's not exactly trivial to recover from it completely |
| 16:01.45 | Sicelo | wonders why no one suggests hitting N900 with a hammer :) |
| 16:01.48 | *** join/#maemo Pali (~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali) |
| 16:01.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | frying NAND there are even tools for that ;-) |
| 16:02.22 | KotCzarny | sicelo: i suggested using 2 bricks |
| 16:02.23 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 16:02.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | Iprobably could tell you how to brick the device for good in a few hours. I won't |
| 16:02.46 | KotCzarny | using hammer would make device HAMMERed |
| 16:06.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | and indeed a hammer is the most effective method ;-) |
| 16:06.45 | Linkandzelda | you suggested i fixed the sudoers file? |
| 16:06.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 16:06.57 | L29Ah | i failed to fry my n900 with overclocking and compiling gentoo there |
| 16:07.17 | L29Ah | even though i hit the ceiling of frequency attainable w/o crashes |
| 16:07.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think it's bulls**t to ask for user's password when user does sudo su |
| 16:07.44 | L29Ah | abusing the flash sounds best |
| 16:07.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, hammer sounds best |
| 16:07.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | but you're close |
| 16:08.17 | KotCzarny | overwriting NOLO isnt bad too |
| 16:09.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: that's a completely braindamaged ubuntu-ism to ask user's password to become root |
| 16:09.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | so I fixed my sudoers file, see jrtools |
| 16:10.19 | Linkandzelda | i see |
| 16:10.38 | Linkandzelda | well when i do root, i dont get asked for a pass |
| 16:10.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | just in case you missed it (can't think how you would): I'm "jr" |
| 16:10.57 | *** join/#maemo AndrewX192 (~andrew@unaffiliated/andrewx192) |
| 16:11.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, your sudoers files are not fixed yet then |
| 16:12.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | don't forget update-sudoers after each change, and don't edit the 'root'-file /etc/sudoers |
| 16:13.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | only edit /etc/sudoers.d/* |
| 16:13.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | since /etc/sudoers gets automatically built on update-sudoers (each boot iirc) |
| 16:14.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | so your edits most likely will get lost |
| 16:16.54 | *** join/#maemo erstazi (~erstazi@unaffiliated/erstazi) |
| 16:23.50 | *** join/#maemo cnj__ (~matt@cl-598.bos-01.us.sixxs.net) |
| 16:28.07 | *** join/#maemo auenfx4 (David@DC-53-50.bpb.bigpond.com) |
| 16:28.17 | *** join/#maemo lobito (~lobito@190.177.207.57) |
| 16:30.03 | L29Ah | wow you're jr |
| 16:30.05 | L29Ah | Luke-Jr: are you jr? |
| 16:34.49 | Linkandzelda | DocScrutinizer05: im half way through this page, doing the stuff when i get a free moment |
| 16:35.10 | Linkandzelda | what is this "trackerd" ? |
| 16:35.17 | KotCzarny | evil abomination |
| 16:35.39 | KotCzarny | almost as bad as systemd |
| 16:36.03 | KotCzarny | ~trackerd |
| 16:36.13 | KotCzarny | ~ping |
| 16:36.13 | infobot | ~pong |
| 16:37.39 | sixwheeledbeast | ~systemd |
| 16:37.39 | infobot | systemd cabal: a bunch of people (Lennart Poettering, Kay Sievers, H. Hoyer, D. Mack, T. Gundersen, D. Herrmann) who want to turn linux into their wet dream perverted version of windows-me-too: http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html -- Rumor has it that 2016 systemd will have replaced kernel. See ~nosystemd" |
| 16:38.14 | Linkandzelda | heh |
| 16:39.04 | KotCzarny | unfortunatelly unless you install/use alternative pic/audio/video app, it's the only way to provide files to them |
| 16:39.27 | KotCzarny | that's why i wrote me own audio player which uses only filesystem (and playlists) |
| 16:39.49 | KotCzarny | and doesnt require some brain damaged daemon to update files available to the system |
| 17:08.09 | *** join/#maemo pcfe (~pcfe@2a02:8109:8080:fa4:beee:7bff:fed9:8f1b) |
| 17:08.13 | *** join/#maemo pcfe (~pcfe@redhat/pcfe) |
| 17:09.53 | Linkandzelda | DocScrutinizer05: nice backup script, and i finished the doc |
| 17:15.12 | *** join/#maemo l_bratch (~l_bratch@87.244.66.26) |
| 17:16.46 | *** join/#maemo eMHa_ (~mh@p579DB30A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:17.56 | *** join/#maemo at1as (~at1as@2601:404:c600:c21f:48f1:2b8c:9a10:a88a) |
| 17:20.45 | *** join/#maemo arossdotme (~zxy@host-92-20-221-214.as13285.net) |
| 17:36.37 | *** join/#maemo vahe (~funtoo@130.193.124.135) |
| 17:37.02 | *** join/#maemo timo_ (~timo@92.109.84.141) |
| 17:37.28 | *** join/#maemo Timo (~timo@unaffiliated/tiempjuuh) |
| 17:37.42 | *** join/#maemo lxp (~lxp@unaffiliated/lxp) |
| 17:45.34 | *** join/#maemo futpib (~futpib@176.212.188.214) |
| 17:48.51 | *** join/#maemo zamn900 (~zammy@151.73.107.196) |
| 17:48.52 | *** join/#maemo zamn900 (~zammy@unaffiliated/zammy) |
| 17:49.39 | zamn900 | hello there folks I am having some problem for connecting to server by Yappari |
| 17:50.34 | zamn900 | it's a persistent problem |
| 17:50.45 | Sicelo | upgrade Yappari |
| 17:50.48 | *** join/#maemo heroux (~heroux@50708323.static.ziggozakelijk.nl) |
| 17:51.05 | KotCzarny | upgrade social network |
| 17:51.42 | Sicelo | if you can upgrade your relatives and friends |
| 17:52.57 | zamn900 | yappari 2.0.26 build 5227 |
| 17:53.21 | Sicelo | 2.0.27 |
| 17:53.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: fine |
| 17:53.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~tracker |
| 17:53.34 | infobot | >>Tracker currently has a function called tracker_memory_setrlimits() which sets the limitation of RLIMIT_AS and RLIMIT_DATA clamping it between 50% of total memory and MAXLONG (2GB on 32-bit) as an upper limit. << 50% of memory? WHAT THE F*CKING HELL SUCKER?! |
| 17:53.59 | zamn900 | ok |
| 17:54.06 | *** join/#maemo Smily (~SmilzOrg@93-103-95-89.dynamic.t-2.net) |
| 17:55.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~literal tracker |
| 17:55.03 | infobot | "tracker" is "<reply> >>Tracker currently has a function called tracker_memory_setrlimits() which sets the limitation of RLIMIT_AS and RLIMIT_DATA clamping it between 50% of total memory and MAXLONG (2GB on 32-bit) as an upper limit. << 50% of memory? WHAT THE F*CKING HELL SUCKER?!" |
| 17:56.05 | zamn900 | hello Doc ;) a much time I don't visit this chat |
| 17:56.42 | zamn900 | I still can't btw get inside my emails |
| 17:57.21 | zamn900 | I have my rings of new emails but servers are not allowing the app to read them |
| 17:57.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, tracker is <reply> ´´Tracker currently has a function called tracker_memory_setrlimits() which sets the limitation of RLIMIT_AS and RLIMIT_DATA clamping it between 50% of total memory and MAXLONG (2GB on 32-bit) as an upper limit.´´ Between 50% and MAXLONG of memory? WHAT THE F*CKING HELL SUCKER?! https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Tracker/Documentation/Configuration |
| 17:57.55 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i'm not going to learn illegal characters |
| 17:57.56 | zamn900 | joke mode on |
| 17:58.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~useless |
| 17:58.13 | infobot | ACTION starts crying and hides from docscrutinizer05 in the darkest corner of the room. :( |
| 17:58.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, tracker is <reply> ""Tracker currently has a function called tracker_memory_setrlimits() which sets the limitation of RLIMIT_AS and RLIMIT_DATA clamping it between 50% of total memory and MAXLONG (2GB on 32-bit) as an upper limit."" Between 50% and MAXLONG of memory? WHAT THE F*CKING HELL SUCKER?! https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Tracker/Documentation/Configuration |
| 17:58.35 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay |
| 17:58.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~tracker |
| 17:58.41 | infobot | ""Tracker currently has a function called tracker_memory_setrlimits() which sets the limitation of RLIMIT_AS and RLIMIT_DATA clamping it between 50% of total memory and MAXLONG (2GB on 32-bit) as an upper limit."" Between 50% and MAXLONG of memory? WHAT THE F*CKING HELL SUCKER?! https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Tracker/Documentation/Configuration |
| 17:58.42 | zamn900 | slaps Infobot |
| 17:59.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~ping |
| 17:59.07 | infobot | 1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss |
| 17:59.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~tracker |
| 17:59.21 | infobot | ""Tracker currently has a function called tracker_memory_setrlimits() which sets the limitation of RLIMIT_AS and RLIMIT_DATA clamping it between 50% of total memory and MAXLONG (2GB on 32-bit) as an upper limit."" Between 50% and MAXLONG of memory? WHAT THE F*CKING HELL SUCKER?! https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Tracker/Documentation/Configuration |
| 17:59.23 | zamn900 | ~ping |
| 17:59.23 | infobot | 1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss |
| 17:59.32 | zamn900 | slaps Infobot |
| 17:59.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | zamn900: say some turing test proof! |
| 18:00.22 | zamn900 | Infobot suck your lollipop made of silicon |
| 18:00.22 | infobot | ACTION sucks your lollipop made of silicon's cheek |
| 18:00.34 | zamn900 | wtf |
| 18:00.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | in last second |
| 18:00.52 | *** join/#maemo trx (ns-team@cable-188-2-98-144.dynamic.sbb.rs) |
| 18:00.52 | *** join/#maemo trx (ns-team@devbin/founder/trx) |
| 18:01.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | you been bot-fast to answer infobot |
| 18:01.26 | zamn900 | does he/she/it suck my or his/her/its lollipop now? |
| 18:01.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | I suggest you don't do that, to avoid misclassifications of your true nature |
| 18:02.02 | zamn900 | lol |
| 18:04.29 | zamn900 | I don't get the new version of yappari 2.0.27... but 2.0.26 again |
| 18:04.45 | *** join/#maemo xorly (~xorly@ip-86-49-15-121.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 18:05.08 | zamn900 | Infobot what do you know about yappari? |
| 18:05.11 | Sicelo | zamn900: |
| 18:05.12 | Sicelo | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1503444&postcount=1377 |
| 18:05.48 | zamn900 | Sicelo I am on my n900 |
| 18:06.30 | Sicelo | um ... |
| 18:06.50 | Sicelo | what difference it makes? |
| 18:07.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys yappari |
| 18:07.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues yappari |
| 18:07.11 | zamn900 | sure but what I am supposed to see there |
| 18:07.53 | Sicelo | 19:50 < Sicelo> upgrade Yappari |
| 18:07.56 | Sicelo | 19:53 < Sicelo> 2.0.27 |
| 18:08.38 | zamn900 | alright if it's worthy then I open the link |
| 18:08.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | Thread: [Fremantle Maemo5] [Announce] Yappari - New maintainership and new features! View Single Post |
| 18:08.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1503444&postcount=1377 |
| 18:09.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | I's prolly rather open http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1503444#post1503444 |
| 18:10.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway: Today, 09:51 New version is on the way to the repos already. |
| 18:10.28 | Sicelo | the first link is better for him as he is on n900, which i suppose means he wants to keep browsing to the minimum |
| 18:11.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | depends what's next |
| 18:11.23 | zamn900 | yep... and btw now I am remembering that version was not good... we had to downgrade... |
| 18:11.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | close, then yes. Read next post then no |
| 18:12.11 | zamn900 | maybe a time travel is what's for me now |
| 18:12.27 | *** join/#maemo Maxdaman1us (~Maxdamant@unaffiliated/maxdamantus) |
| 18:12.45 | Sicelo | fails to understand what zamn900 is saying .. and leaves |
| 18:13.09 | zamn900 | in future you will |
| 18:14.06 | zamn900 | but for now thanks Sicelo, sincerely |
| 18:16.47 | *** join/#maemo Maxdamantus (~Maxdamant@unaffiliated/maxdamantus) |
| 18:18.09 | zamn900 | Infobot do you like New Zealand? |
| 18:18.09 | infobot | yes, I like New Zealand. |
| 18:18.31 | zamn900 | Infobot do you like sucking lollipops? |
| 18:18.31 | infobot | yes, I like sucking lollipops. |
| 18:18.48 | zamn900 | I could bet you would |
| 18:19.58 | zamn900 | Infobot how does your lollipop taste? |
| 18:20.15 | zamn900 | so you don't like it |
| 18:20.25 | *** join/#maemo Smily (~SmilzOrg@93-103-95-89.dynamic.t-2.net) |
| 18:20.28 | zamn900 | you faggot |
| 18:22.48 | zamn900 | joke mode off |
| 18:22.50 | zamn900 | bb |
| 18:23.17 | zamn900 | thank you Sicelo and you DocScrutinizer05 |
| 18:23.32 | zamn900 | at the next time |
| 18:23.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | what for? |
| 18:23.46 | zamn900 | maybe the year next too |
| 18:24.05 | zamn900 | just for talking |
| 18:24.07 | zamn900 | bb |
| 18:28.45 | *** join/#maemo xelo (~xelo@ip-176-198-129-195.hsi05.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 18:28.56 | *** join/#maemo heroux (~heroux@50708323.static.ziggozakelijk.nl) |
| 18:30.36 | *** join/#maemo Kabouik (~quassel@65.76.93.92.rev.sfr.net) |
| 18:37.17 | *** join/#maemo auenf (David@DC-53-50.bpb.bigpond.com) |
| 18:38.06 | *** join/#maemo phlixi_ (~phlixi@ppp-88-217-41-170.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 18:38.23 | *** join/#maemo chfoo- (~chfooZnc@nullhound.fart.website) |
| 18:38.58 | *** join/#maemo hadara (~hadara@bsd.ee) |
| 18:45.04 | *** join/#maemo fortytwo (~thomas@who.let.this.bloody.dropbear.in) |
| 18:45.26 | *** join/#maemo script (~script@scriptkiller.de) |
| 18:52.03 | *** join/#maemo aloril (~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 18:53.08 | *** join/#maemo ssvb (~ssvb@dsl-espbrasgw1-54fa71-124.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 18:53.37 | *** join/#maemo FIQ (~FIQ@prgmr/customer/fiq) |
| 18:56.03 | *** join/#maemo Maxdamantus (~Maxdamant@unaffiliated/maxdamantus) |
| 19:06.55 | ceene | i think yappari users are the less technical savvy ones |
| 19:07.32 | ceene | it should be on extras-devel at this time of the day |
| 19:07.44 | ceene | i'll coerce people to vote for it tomorrow |
| 19:13.31 | *** join/#maemo Vajb (~Vajb@85-76-67-120-nat.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 19:29.52 | *** join/#maemo krnlyng (~liar@77.117.89.252.wireless.dyn.drei.com) |
| 20:01.18 | *** join/#maemo qwazix (~qwazix@46-198-128-218.static.cyta.gr) |
| 20:08.16 | *** join/#maemo peetah (~peetah@82.236.202.86) |
| 22:59.58 | *** join/#maemo infobot (ibot@rikers.org) |
| 22:59.58 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
| 23:00.00 | Linkandzelda | L29Ah: hmm, ok |
| 23:01.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~maemodebs is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94722 |
| 23:01.35 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay |
| 23:01.50 | Linkandzelda | heh |
| 23:01.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~ovidebs is <reply> see maemodebs |
| 23:01.50 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 23:01.59 | Linkandzelda | i like this bot |
| 23:02.06 | Linkandzelda | is the source somewhere? |
| 23:02.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | too :-) |
| 23:02.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~source |
| 23:02.15 | infobot | To build Debian packages from source code: first, add a deb-src line to your sources.list file. Then "apt-get build-dep _pkg_" and "apt-get -b source _pkg_" to retrieve the build-dependencies, and the source. The resulting .deb files will be in `pwd`. |
| 23:02.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh |
| 23:04.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~infobot-sources |
| 23:04.16 | infobot | somebody said frankbot was me, http://infobot.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/infobot/ // The original infobot is no more, it has been replaced by the latest version of blootbot, accompanied by a rename back to infobot // apt/ibot/infobot/purl is now an infobot run by TimRiker |
| 23:05.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~frankbot is also see /join #infobot |
| 23:05.20 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 23:05.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~attack Sicelo |
| 23:05.54 | infobot | ACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing Sicelo |
| 23:06.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~gender |
| 23:06.51 | infobot | I'm hermaphroditic |
| 23:07.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~gender |
| 23:07.04 | infobot | I'm male |
| 23:07.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~gender |
| 23:07.10 | infobot | I'm gay |
| 23:08.14 | Linkandzelda | is it really true most people here dont have issues with vsync and tearing? |
| 23:08.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: (dark thing on screen) OUCH! |
| 23:09.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | I dunno, never noticed tearing. could be me though |
| 23:09.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | hard to discuss a painting on the phone |
| 23:10.24 | Linkandzelda | i noticed it most when switching desktops |
| 23:10.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | that seems to work pretty well |
| 23:11.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, there *is* tearing |
| 23:11.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | never noticed it before |
| 23:12.36 | Linkandzelda | one other thing, i installed this: https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94752 |
| 23:12.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | I however think our system wizards err Gods did something about vsync long time ago |
| 23:13.05 | Linkandzelda | however this error happens: weechat: error while loading shared libraries: libgnutls.so.26: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 23:13.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, obviously a missing dependency, no? |
| 23:13.58 | Linkandzelda | yea, just not sure what it is |
| 23:14.11 | Linkandzelda | coreutils-gnu is already installed |
| 23:14.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | I seem to recall there were problems with libgnutls recently |
| 23:14.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | I also wouldn't know which packet shipt it |
| 23:15.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# apt-cache search libgnutls |
| 23:15.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | libgnutls-dev - the GNU TLS library - development files |
| 23:15.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | libgnutls26 - the GNU TLS library - runtime library |
| 23:15.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | libgnutls26-dbg - GNU TLS library - debugger symbols |
| 23:15.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | oops sorry |
| 23:15.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | this was a hasty pastebin |
| 23:16.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/66456553 |
| 23:16.19 | Linkandzelda | gonna install those and see |
| 23:16.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | took quite a while to finish ;-) |
| 23:17.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wiki libgnutls |
| 23:17.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~pkg |
| 23:17.23 | infobot | well, pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ |
| 23:17.46 | Linkandzelda | also, does ssh lag for you when you are connecting from your pc? its lagging like a server thats half way across the world does |
| 23:18.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/libgnutls26/ http://maemo.org/packages/view/libneon27-gnutls/ |
| 23:18.40 | Linkandzelda | ping is only 60-100ms |
| 23:18.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | WIFI I bet |
| 23:19.08 | Linkandzelda | i just installed the first package |
| 23:19.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | check your AP's and N900 WLAN settings 'power saving mode' |
| 23:19.35 | Linkandzelda | yay weechat |
| 23:19.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | decent APs should not have huge lags |
| 23:22.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | afk |
| 23:33.16 | *** join/#maemo azkay (~azkay@14-202-56-178.tpgi.com.au) |
| 23:35.30 | *** join/#maemo Kabouik (~quassel@65.76.93.92.rev.sfr.net) |
