IRC log for #maemo on 20160328

00:05.20*** join/#maemo auenf (David@DC-26-253.bpb.bigpond.com)
00:29.39*** join/#maemo auenfx4 (David@DC-26-253.bpb.bigpond.com)
00:42.43*** join/#maemo louisdk (~louisdk@static-5-103-130-65.seas-nve.net)
00:49.14*** join/#maemo krnlyng (~liar@178.112.210.230.wireless.dyn.drei.com)
00:58.14*** join/#maemo auenf (David@120.155.78.91)
01:02.24*** join/#maemo auenfx4 (~David@120.155.88.122)
01:07.26*** join/#maemo auenf (David@120.155.120.144)
01:32.35*** join/#maemo sunshavi (~user@190.235.18.236)
01:33.33*** join/#maemo krnlyng (~liar@77.117.5.239.wireless.dyn.drei.com)
01:39.55*** join/#maemo eMHa_ (~mh@p579DB489.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
02:14.02*** join/#maemo RedW (~redw@89-76-164-87.dynamic.chello.pl)
02:20.16*** join/#maemo RedW (~redw@89-76-164-87.dynamic.chello.pl)
03:01.28*** join/#maemo lxp1 (~lxp@unaffiliated/lxp)
03:06.29*** join/#maemo RedW (~redw@89-76-164-87.dynamic.chello.pl)
03:28.14*** join/#maemo RedW (~redw@89-76-164-87.dynamic.chello.pl)
03:29.09*** join/#maemo sunshavi (~user@190.235.18.236)
03:32.42*** join/#maemo louisdk (~louisdk@static-5-103-130-65.seas-nve.net)
03:33.25*** join/#maemo RedM (~redw@89-76-164-87.dynamic.chello.pl)
03:37.15*** join/#maemo vahe (~funtoo@130.193.124.135)
03:39.37*** join/#maemo DocScrutinizer05 (~saturn@openmoko/engineers/joerg)
03:44.05*** join/#maemo RedW (~redw@89-76-164-87.dynamic.chello.pl)
04:39.18*** join/#maemo vahe (~funtoo@130.193.124.135)
04:55.28*** join/#maemo vahe (~funtoo@130.193.124.135)
05:03.44*** join/#maemo lobito (~lobito@190.177.214.221)
06:11.25*** join/#maemo LauRoman (~LauRoman@5-14-40-51.residential.rdsnet.ro)
06:21.26*** join/#maemo pigeons (~pigeons@94.242.209.214)
07:04.39*** join/#maemo hashcore (~hashcore@unaffiliated/hashcore)
07:08.16*** join/#maemo hashcore (~hashcore@unaffiliated/hashcore)
07:32.49*** join/#maemo futpib_ (~futpib@176.212.183.213)
08:06.19*** join/#maemo xorly (~xorly@ip-86-49-15-121.net.upcbroadband.cz)
08:14.24*** join/#maemo bencoh (~bencoh@nautica.notk.org)
08:15.09*** join/#maemo bencoh (~bencoh@unaffiliated/bencoh/x-184637)
08:46.38freemangordonhmm, I have a weird bug with openssl, when connecting to tls1 only server, if I don't explicitly state which cipher to be used, the sll negotiation fails
08:46.54freemangordon*ssl negotiation
08:46.59freemangordonkerio: ^^^ any clue?
08:47.01bencohfreemangordon: with s_client?
08:47.07freemangordonyes
08:47.32bencohhmm, maybe s_client uses the sslv2/3 functions only by default
08:47.33freemangordonbencoh: the same for curl
08:47.37bencohwell, our version
08:47.49bencohyeah, curl does use the "wrong" function
08:48.07freemangordonbencoh: well, I pass "-tls1 -no_ssl3"
08:48.20freemangordonbencoh: I built the latest curl, no change
08:48.32freemangordon7.44-DEV1 :)
08:48.39bencohfreemangordon: and it still doesn't work with s_client -tls1 -no_ssl3?
08:48.44freemangordonyep
08:48.51bencohstrange, now that's something else
08:49.34freemangordonI have to "--ciphers ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA" for curl or "-cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA" for s_client, then everything is fine
08:49.50bencohhmm
08:50.04bencohmaybe we need to disable deprecated ciphers (?)
08:50.19bencohwhich one does it try to use by default?
08:50.21freemangordonbut why, isn;t it supposed to match what is supported?
08:50.37bencohno idea
08:51.08freemangordonor, hmm, maybe openssl does not report all the supported ciphers, lemme tcpdup
08:51.12freemangordon*tcpdump
08:51.44bencohmaybe
08:53.00freemangordonbencoh: any idea how to capture wlan0?
08:53.11bencohtcpdump -i wlan0?
08:53.20freemangordonoh, stupid me :)
08:53.38freemangordonI wad doing "ifconfig -i wlan0 -o tcp.pcap" :D
08:53.42bencoh:D
08:56.46freemangordonbencoh: yes, ECHDE_xxx ciphers are not offered :(
08:57.37freemangordonbencoh: and openssl ciphers does not list them, even that they are suppoerted. WTF?
08:59.11*** join/#maemo gregoa (~gregoa@colleen.colgarra.priv.at)
09:03.47*** join/#maemo janus (Janus@bnc.animux.de)
09:03.58*** join/#maemo florian (~fuchs@Maemo/community/contributor/florian)
09:07.41*** join/#maemo zGrr (~GrR@user-46-113-220-226.play-internet.pl)
09:43.55keriofreemangordon: openssl 0.9.8 doesn't do ECC
09:44.18freemangordonkerio: hmm?
09:44.39freemangordonhow's that related to all ECDH(E) ciphers not being listed?
09:48.25freemangordonkerio: bencoh: well, there is such a note "/* Don't include ECC in ALL because these ciphers are not yet official. */"
09:48.35keriooh lmao
09:49.13bencohkrkrkr
09:50.45freemangordonhttps://github.com/openssl/openssl/blob/OpenSSL_0_9_8fg-stable/ssl/ssl_ciph.c#L169
09:51.21freemangordon"authored               on 9 Aug 2002"
09:51.23freemangordon:D
09:51.48freemangordonI guess it should be safe to fix that
09:52.01bencohhmm yeah, and "lol" sounds appropriate
09:52.08bencohfreemangordon: what about latest 0.9.8?
09:52.19freemangordonsee github ^^^
09:52.31freemangordonah, zh
09:52.34freemangordonlemme check
09:52.35bencohyeah, zh
09:52.41keriocan't change ALL like that
09:52.45kerioit would break backwards compatibility
09:52.53freemangordonwhy?
09:53.07bencohkerio: they do it all the time afaict
09:53.27kerioyeah but when they HAVE to
09:53.47bencohI think we have to as well ;)
09:55.50freemangordon:nod:
09:55.59freemangordonalso, see https://github.com/openssl/openssl/commit/c85c1e08ce4148b64a80497525fa5e5efc87d13a
09:56.39freemangordonwonders what is left after that commit :)
09:57.08bencoh:))
09:57.31bencohnot much, that's why you're having this issue ;)
09:57.44freemangordonbencoh: we don;t have that in cssu, yet
09:58.36bencohno I mean, remote servers dropped support for pretty much everything as well
09:58.52freemangordonyeah
09:59.22freemangordonis going to enable ACC ciphers in ALL and test
09:59.26freemangordon*ECC
10:04.29bencoh<PROTECTED>
10:04.31bencohin zh
10:10.03*** join/#maemo clopez (~tau@neutrino.es)
10:23.36freemangordonbencoh: yeah, it is like that eince 2002
10:23.39freemangordon*since
10:24.32freemangordonthe other option is the add ECC ciphers to DEFAULT
10:25.08*** join/#maemo Pali (~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali)
10:25.59bencohinstead of ALL?
10:26.13bencohhave you cecked 1.x?
10:26.14freemangordonyes
10:26.17bencohchecked*
10:26.26freemangordonPali: look at the backscroll
10:26.34freemangordonbencoh: no
10:27.52Paliecc ciphers?
10:28.46freemangordonyep
10:29.19freemangordonPali: like ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA
10:29.31Palienable it
10:29.42freemangordon:nod:
10:30.05freemangordonbuilding openssl atm
10:46.32freemangordonhmm, it is way better with those ciphers enabled :D
10:46.55freemangordonmodest connection to exchange server started to work again
10:47.41freemangordonPali: now, what we're going to do with cssu releases? merlin1991 is nowhere to be seen
10:48.32Palifreemangordon: do you have ssh keys and steps how to release new version and put packages to r.m.o?
10:48.38freemangordonno
10:48.58Palithen need to ask maemo admins for it
10:49.15freemangordonnot to say I don't have time (and will) to maintain yet another thing
11:06.07bencohnot sure about time&will but I'd be glad to help if possible
11:08.17freemangordonbuilds 0.9.8zh
11:08.59freemangordonbencoh: seems like we need a maintainer, but anyway, lets see what merlin1991 has to say about it
11:09.15keriofreemangordon: what are our ALL and DEFAULT right now?
11:13.08bencohkerio: see github link, roughly
11:13.20keriobut he said that he added stuff
11:13.26bencohkerio: ah
11:13.53freemangordonkerio: before or after my change?
11:13.53bencohfreemangordon: hmm yeah ... and I'd still need a second phone anyway
11:14.01keriofreemangordon: yes
11:14.11freemangordonyes what?
11:14.19kerio:D
11:14.21keriobefore and after
11:14.25bencoh"true" :]
11:17.35freemangordonkerio: http://pastebin.com/zHYrS2tv
11:17.46freemangordonkerio: for 'before' check on your device
11:18.05keriohold on is ALL supposed to have aNULL ciphers
11:18.11freemangordonno
11:18.25keriohm, apparently yes
11:18.32kerioALL is everything except eNULL
11:18.47keriofreemangordon: can we disable rc4
11:18.48freemangordonah, yes
11:18.53kerioit's disabled in 1.1.0
11:18.53freemangordonkerio: no idea
11:18.58keriono like, at compile time
11:19.02freemangordonbut why should we?
11:19.27kerioit's icky ;<
11:19.40keriobut yeah there's much worse stuff
11:28.53*** join/#maemo florian (~fuchs@Maemo/community/contributor/florian)
12:34.03*** part/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net)
13:00.44*** join/#maemo shentey (~shentey@pD9EA6F5C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
13:07.41*** join/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net)
13:14.53*** part/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net)
13:25.52*** join/#maemo florian (~fuchs@Maemo/community/contributor/florian)
13:29.32*** join/#maemo vahe (~funtoo@130.193.124.135)
13:30.54*** join/#maemo vahe (~funtoo@130.193.124.135)
13:36.52*** join/#maemo hashcore (~hashcore@unaffiliated/hashcore)
13:39.14*** join/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net)
13:59.42*** join/#maemo SpeedEvil (~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil)
14:13.17*** part/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net)
14:22.31*** join/#maemo zGrr (~GrR@178235245220.warszawa.vectranet.pl)
14:33.44*** join/#maemo florian (~fuchs@Maemo/community/contributor/florian)
14:40.41*** join/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net)
14:40.53*** join/#maemo louisdk (~louisdk@static-5-103-130-65.seas-nve.net)
14:41.36*** join/#maemo louisdk (~louisdk@static-5-103-130-65.seas-nve.net)
14:56.41*** join/#maemo SpeedEvil (~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil)
15:17.04*** join/#maemo sunshavi (~user@190.235.18.236)
15:18.33*** part/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net)
15:26.17*** join/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net)
16:10.32freemangordonin the meanwhile http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1502308&postcount=498
16:11.43L29Ahlol i'm asked to port sailfish to a random phone as a task to see if i suck
16:15.10freemangordonYou need to waste time to get the answer?!?
16:25.04bencohL29Ah: wtf? :D
16:25.18bencohsailfish/porter chan I guess?
16:41.14L29Ahfreemangordon: yep i do :]
16:42.00L29Ah$2200/month net for a mostly FOSS embedded job is quite attractive there
16:43.14bencohwhere is "there"?
16:46.56L29Ah.ru
16:54.57*** join/#maemo sunshavi (~user@190.235.18.236)
17:10.22*** join/#maemo futpib_ (~futpib@176.212.186.86)
17:31.56*** join/#maemo futpib (~futpib@176.214.30.94)
17:41.02freemangordonPali: where did you get those sre patches from?
17:41.17Palifrom sre repo on git.kernel.org
17:41.46freemangordonok
17:46.50*** join/#maemo ArGGu^^ (~ArGGu^^@89.106.52.253)
18:01.24*** join/#maemo vakkov (~vakkov@s3n104.brunel.ac.uk)
18:41.07*** part/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net)
18:46.54*** join/#maemo vectis3 (~user@79-64-234-78.host.pobb.as13285.net)
18:56.52*** join/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net)
19:01.49*** join/#maemo hashcore (~hashcore@unaffiliated/hashcore)
19:09.15*** join/#maemo clopez (~tau@neutrino.es)
19:09.17*** join/#maemo RedM (~redw@89-76-164-87.dynamic.chello.pl)
19:13.31*** join/#maemo SpeedEvil (~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil)
19:23.22*** part/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net)
19:26.37*** join/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net)
19:28.35*** join/#maemo shentey (~shentey@f053003176.adsl.alicedsl.de)
19:30.19*** join/#maemo florian (~fuchs@Maemo/community/contributor/florian)
19:38.36*** part/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net)
19:50.52*** join/#maemo SpeedEvil (~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil)
20:10.59*** join/#maemo L29Ah (~L29Ah@cl-154.led-01.ru.sixxs.net)
20:28.23*** join/#maemo JRHaigh (~JRHaigh@ps87731.dreamhost.com)
20:28.55*** join/#maemo louisdk (~louisdk@static-5-103-130-65.seas-nve.net)
21:09.43*** join/#maemo trx (ns-team@devbin/founder/trx)
21:16.20*** join/#maemo pagurus (~user@89.204.130.250)
21:31.43*** join/#maemo sunshavi (~user@190.235.18.236)
21:59.57*** join/#maemo andril (~andril@c-66-229-28-40.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
22:14.15*** join/#maemo louisdk (~louisdk@static-5-103-130-65.seas-nve.net)
22:18.27*** join/#maemo azkay (~azkay@c110-23-4-9.rochd7.qld.optusnet.com.au)
22:25.35azkayWhere's my phoneeeee. Hurry up postman, it's already 8:25am!
22:30.51*** join/#maemo andril_Cloned (~andril@c-66-229-28-40.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
22:34.32*** join/#maemo andril (~andril@c-66-229-28-40.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
23:23.43*** join/#maemo vakkov (~vakkov@s3n104.brunel.ac.uk)
23:47.43*** join/#maemo sunshavi (~user@190.235.18.236)
23:48.48*** join/#maemo louisdk (~louisdk@static-5-103-130-65.seas-nve.net)

Generated by irclog2html.pl Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot.