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| 10:49.17 | Pali | freemangordon: v4.6-rc1-n900 branch is in linux-n900 tree |
| 10:54.16 | freemangordon | Pali: great |
| 10:54.46 | freemangordon | Pali: going to test it |
| 10:54.52 | Pali | ok |
| 10:56.49 | freemangordon | Pali: could you take a look at that gadget oops, I can't figure it out where it comes from |
| 10:57.31 | freemangordon | Pali: I mean - why there is opps? |
| 10:57.35 | freemangordon | *oops |
| 10:57.47 | Pali | can you send me link to that email thread? |
| 10:57.52 | Pali | looks like I was not CCed |
| 10:57.54 | freemangordon | link? |
| 10:58.05 | freemangordon | it is on linux-omap |
| 10:58.39 | freemangordon | Pali: http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-usb/msg135412.html |
| 11:00.07 | Pali | "Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 6c6c757a" |
| 11:00.08 | Pali | that? |
| 11:03.07 | Pali | hmmm.... 6c6c757a = "lluz" or "zull" |
| 11:07.03 | Pali | freemangordon: looks like somebody freed pointer to common... |
| 11:07.18 | Pali | from code around it looks like some race condition |
| 11:07.25 | Pali | this is multithread code |
| 11:07.29 | Pali | ah :-( |
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| 12:05.52 | freemangordon | Pali: yeah, but I was not able to figure out what happens |
| 12:06.17 | freemangordon | who frees common and why |
| 12:06.42 | freemangordon | Pali: fsg_unbind() is called twice for every lun |
| 12:07.00 | freemangordon | also, I don;t see who terminates that thread |
| 12:07.51 | freemangordon | that code is like spaghetti and being multithreaded doesn't help either :) |
| 12:09.10 | freemangordon | Pali: hmm, wait, fsg_bind() is called 2 times as well, so the thread is created twice?!? |
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| 12:33.30 | freemangordon | Pali: seems like nokia_bind() is called twice, for some reason, so all gadgets are created 2 times |
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| 16:21.33 | fishbulb | is the yappari dude here? |
| 16:21.59 | fishbulb | I'm worried about the security of my phone |
| 16:22.20 | fishbulb | and the texts and shit, if people can spend enough time and get shit off my linux machine |
| 16:26.15 | fishbulb | which they can and have |
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| 16:30.34 | fishbulb | how hard is whatsapp to hack |
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| 17:13.23 | ceene | fishbulb: what do you want to know? |
| 17:13.49 | fishbulb | how hard is it to "hack" yappari |
| 17:13.55 | fishbulb | from your point of view, realistically |
| 17:14.17 | fishbulb | or whatsapp or whatever. I mean my end isn't encrypted |
| 17:14.34 | ceene | whatsapp is harder, as conversations are ciphered point to point |
| 17:14.51 | ceene | with a protocol (textsecure) which, as far as i know, hasn't been broken |
| 17:14.59 | ceene | yappari doesn't implement this, however |
| 17:15.03 | fishbulb | yeah I know |
| 17:15.13 | ceene | so all security is based on SSL between your phone and WA servers |
| 17:15.27 | ceene | so in that sense, it's as secure as any other ssl enabled website you visit |
| 17:15.46 | fishbulb | it's a wrapper for a website? |
| 17:15.47 | bencoh | ceene: what about key exchange (in textsecure)? |
| 17:15.55 | fishbulb | I didn't know that |
| 17:16.06 | ceene | fishbulb: it's not a wrapper, but all communication is done via ssl |
| 17:16.12 | fishbulb | or did you mean it's as secure.. ok |
| 17:16.19 | ceene | you can't use a browser or anything similar to it to connect to whatsapp |
| 17:16.40 | fishbulb | so from my end to the server is ssl |
| 17:16.53 | ceene | bencoh: i don't know how it's done exactly |
| 17:17.02 | fishbulb | and everyone else is encrypted, there have been less problems with dropped messages recently |
| 17:17.07 | fishbulb | I noticed. |
| 17:18.03 | ceene | TextSecure encryption protocol, which combines the Axolotl ratchet, prekeys, and a 3-DH handshake.[36] It uses Curve25519, AES-256, and HMAC-SHA256 as primitives |
| 17:18.15 | fishbulb | aes256 |
| 17:18.20 | fishbulb | that's pretty secure in theory |
| 17:18.30 | ceene | if i'm not wrong, 3-DH is also what SSH uses to exchange keys |
| 17:19.12 | ceene | weakest point on n900 is probably ssl support |
| 17:19.14 | ceene | certificates |
| 17:19.15 | ceene | and all that |
| 17:19.40 | freemangordon | Pali: hmm, 4.6-rc1 seems pretty buggy :) |
| 17:19.53 | freemangordon | did you try to boot it on the device? |
| 17:20.32 | Pali | only in qemu |
| 17:22.00 | freemangordon | Pali: http://pastebin.com/PYuw0SST |
| 17:22.28 | Pali | "omapfb: dma_declare_coherent_memory failed" is also in qemu |
| 17:22.38 | freemangordon | I had to disable et8ek8, otherwise it oopses |
| 17:22.57 | bencoh | ceene: the thing is, with ssh you either 1. have the remote fingerprint stored locally to check it, or 2. it's your first connection and you need to verify it manually (or blindly trust remote server) |
| 17:22.59 | freemangordon | but why it fails? |
| 17:23.15 | bencoh | ceene: but I highly doubt whatsapp user are ever confronted to this :) |
| 17:23.39 | bencoh | which means that ... they can mitm the first exchange any way they want |
| 17:23.45 | bencoh | (they == whatsapp) |
| 17:24.07 | ceene | i guess so, yes |
| 17:24.27 | ceene | i mean, i'm always talking about a 3rd party intercepting your conversations |
| 17:24.38 | ceene | i take it as a given that WA can read your messages if they want to |
| 17:24.52 | ceene | not that i particularly believe they do, but that they do have the techinical ability is a given |
| 17:25.56 | ceene | since they control the client (well, most of them), they can disable/modify/tamper with the encryption whenever they want, and there's nothing you can do about it |
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| 17:26.35 | bencoh | that too |
| 17:28.32 | freemangordon | Pali: seems like that one https://lists.01.org/pipermail/linux-nvdimm/2015-August/001796.html |
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| 17:33.30 | fishbulb | no, 3rd party |
| 17:33.39 | fishbulb | I don't give a shit about whatsapp reading anything |
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| 17:49.30 | freemangordon | Pali: the bugger is 6b03ae0d42bfecf2536f7967d37e471d98c0b3d2 |
| 17:52.31 | Pali | so need to remove DMA_MEMORY_MAP flag somehow? |
| 17:53.37 | freemangordon | change it to DMA_MEMORY_IO |
| 17:54.03 | freemangordon | It would've been really nice if someone explained what those flags are supposed to mean |
| 17:55.04 | freemangordon | Pali: ^^^ |
| 17:55.48 | freemangordon | with that change there is no more error in qemu, going to test on the device |
| 17:58.39 | freemangordon | Pali: did you see my comments ^^^ that g_nokia probe() is called twice? |
| 17:58.50 | Pali | yes |
| 17:58.58 | Pali | but do not know why.... |
| 18:00.24 | freemangordon | Pali: ok, the DMA_MEMORY_IO change works on the device as well, right now I have "9" playing in mediaplayer :) |
| 18:00.56 | freemangordon | which means tidspbridge works as well, to the extend it did with 4.5 ofc |
| 18:10.29 | kerio | \o/ |
| 18:10.54 | kerio | who the man |
| 18:10.57 | kerio | freemangordon is |
| 18:11.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | and Pali |
| 18:12.30 | ceene | we are very lucky to have both of them working on n900 instead of something that'll make them rich and famous :) |
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