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| 07:41.41 | bencoh | hmm, I think we need to update the timezone files, but it looks like we need to rebuild the libc6 package for that :/ |
| 07:45.14 | sixwheeledbeast^ | yes I recall that too, ade and fmg have looked at it before IIRC |
| 08:01.34 | bencoh | there is a timezone-related entry in -testing changelog on wiki |
| 08:01.36 | bencoh | (2013) |
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| 09:49.27 | L29Ah | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo |
| 09:49.28 | L29Ah | > n900 |
| 09:49.33 | L29Ah | i wonder if this thing is alive |
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| 10:58.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((wayland/egl, and qt5)) not to start with: I hate both |
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| 11:01.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | both violate the "if it's (not) broken, (don't) fix it" rule |
| 11:01.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | very poettering |
| 11:05.43 | jon_y | How is poettering going to get his glowing yearly performance review then? :) |
| 11:06.11 | jon_y | gotta do something~ |
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| 11:10.27 | bencoh | (mybad, that wasn't really clear) |
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| 11:17.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~poettering |
| 11:17.43 | infobot | 'sth is poettering' means it acts invasive, possessive, destructive, and generally in an egocentric exacerbating negative way. ``this cancer is extremely poettering'', or you look here for Linus' notion on what's poettering: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1404.0/01331.html, or http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1404.0/01488.html, or see ~systemd cabal |
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| 19:34.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: does a cat /sys/bus/platform/devices/twl4030-bci-battery/power_supply/twl4030_bci_bk_battery/voltage_now work on KP or on new kernel? |
| 19:35.53 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05: nokia n900 does not use twl4030-bci-battery |
| 19:35.58 | Pali | so it cannot work |
| 19:36.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | err wut? |
| 19:36.27 | Pali | it uses bq27200 chip |
| 19:36.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | this is bupbat |
| 19:36.46 | Pali | bupbat |
| 19:36.52 | Pali | ~bupbat |
| 19:36.52 | infobot | well, bupbat is use the capacitive type, LiIon are breaking during 12 months, or http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/PAS414HR-VG1/587-2157-1-ND/1959153, or https://hbe-shop.de/Art-2112777-TAIYO-YUDEN-PAS414HR-VA5R-KONDENSATOR006F-33V-STAKED-COIN, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90864 |
| 19:37.20 | Pali | there is no kernel driver for bupbat |
| 19:37.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | sad |
| 19:37.50 | Pali | do you know how to read voltage from that bupbat? |
| 19:37.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-kernel/page/Power/ |
| 19:38.10 | Pali | I can write something... but first need to know if it is ever possible for n900... |
| 19:38.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | it is |
| 19:39.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | it just reads out a (prolly ADC) register of TWL4030 |
| 19:39.23 | Pali | twl4030_bci_battery driver does not exists in upstream kernel nor in nokia's kernel |
| 19:39.35 | Pali | reading ADC of twl4030 is possible |
| 19:39.43 | Pali | do you know which channels? |
| 19:39.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | lemme check |
| 19:40.09 | Pali | and plus some conversion function (from raw adc channel output to some voltage/etc value) |
| 19:47.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | what the heck, I can't find it. Could you check what Nikolaus does in http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-kernel/page/Power/ ? |
| 19:50.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-kernel/source/tree/master/ |
| 19:51.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | (takes ages to load for me) |
| 19:54.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | ugh and it seems it needs to authenticate |
| 19:55.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | dunno what's wrong with Nik's server |
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| 20:09.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2016/03/25/plasma-desktopNf2219.png |
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| 20:23.10 | Pali | freemangordon: what is state of your tidspbridge patches? |
| 20:23.22 | Pali | should I include them to linux-n900 tree? |
| 20:25.31 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05: so if you tell me from which twl4030 ADC channel should I read input values, I can create (or use existing) driver for bupbat |
| 20:26.01 | Pali | (channel number) |
| 20:26.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | alas the datasheet for TPS65050 I inspected doesn't mention which MADC channel bupbat is on |
| 20:27.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | it doesn't mention any channels except 0, 1. and those only implicitly |
| 20:29.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: http://wstaw.org/m/2016/03/25/plasma-desktopvS2219.png |
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| 20:30.07 | Pali | n900 uses different madc channels |
| 20:30.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | ugh, how? |
| 20:30.31 | Pali | see n900 schemantics |
| 20:30.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | aren't those 'hardwired' in tps65950? |
| 20:30.57 | Pali | no |
| 20:31.31 | Pali | ADCIN 0 is battery temperature |
| 20:31.41 | Pali | ADCIN 12 is voltage |
| 20:31.52 | Pali | ADCIN 4 is BSI |
| 20:32.11 | Pali | ADCIN 2 is ECI AD |
| 20:32.20 | Pali | and thats all what I know |
| 20:32.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | this is ADC9 though |
| 20:32.52 | Pali | can you check n900 schemantics? |
| 20:33.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure, but they don't show any ADCIN9 |
| 20:33.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's internal to chip |
| 20:36.17 | Pali | see: https://github.com/pali/linux-n900/blob/v2.6.28-nokia/include/linux/i2c/twl4030-madc.h |
| 20:36.27 | Pali | this is nokia's kernel |
| 20:36.35 | Pali | there are /* Fixed channels */ |
| 20:36.44 | Pali | but they do not match n900 |
| 20:36.51 | Pali | they are for some other omap3 boards |
| 20:37.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry that's above me |
| 20:37.14 | Pali | there is e.g. #define TWL4030_MADC_BTEMPTWL4030_MADC_ADCIN1 |
| 20:37.21 | Pali | but battery temp. is ADCIN0 |
| 20:37.25 | Pali | (for n900) |
| 20:37.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, both ADCIN1 and ADCIN0 ate pins |
| 20:37.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | are* |
| 20:38.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | and N900 connected bat sensor to ADCIN0 and BSI to ADCIN4 |
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| 20:39.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | ADECIN9 however is an internally hardwired thing in tps65950 chip |
| 20:39.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | the define above is from tps65950 datasheet |
| 20:40.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | ADCIN0,1 are somewhat 'special' but that's not a mandatory assignment |
| 20:41.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2016/03/25/plasma-desktopfo2219.png |
| 20:42.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | ADCIN >7 is internal anyway, no dedicated pin |
| 20:43.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | so those >7 cannot change their meaning |
| 20:44.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | while Nokia decided to _not_ connect a temperature sensor to ADCIN0 pin, and instead connected it to ADCIN4 |
| 20:44.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | err. 1? |
| 20:44.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | wait |
| 20:44.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | bat temp sensor: ADCIN0 |
| 20:44.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | from schematics |
| 20:47.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | so let me retry... |
| 20:47.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | while Nokia decided to _not_ connect a temperature sensor to ADCIN1 pin, and instead connected it to ADCIN0 |
| 20:51.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | >> The host processor can identify the instantaneous backup battery voltage by connecting VBACKUP toMADC ADCIN9 channel through a resistive prescaler (BB_CFG[BBCHEN] = 1) and then performing a software-triggered conversion on the ADCIN9 channel. For the monitoring ADC (MADC) configuration required for software-triggered conversion requests, see Reference 1 in Section A.1. << |
| 20:51.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | SWCA025 |
| 20:53.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | www.ti.com/lit/an/swca025/swca025.pdf |
| 20:53.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: ^^^ |
| 20:54.43 | Pali | ok |
| 20:54.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | yw |
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| 20:59.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | !! http://wstaw.org/m/2016/03/25/plasma-desktopiO2219.png this might be a missing bit in Nokia's N900 kernel and thus bupbat going south? |
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| 21:14.02 | fishbulb | I need to transfer all my shit to another n900 |
| 21:14.11 | fishbulb | and first I want to flash that n900 |
| 21:16.32 | L29Ah | > plasma-desktop |
| 21:16.35 | L29Ah | you've scared me |
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| 21:17.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | fishbulb: |
| 21:17.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~bm |
| 21:17.53 | infobot | rumour has it, backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 |
| 21:18.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing |
| 21:18.00 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh |
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| 21:33.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | fishbulb: watch out though when your kernel isn't stock maemo kernel, you will nuke your system when undiscriminatingly restoring stuff from another kernel's rootfs |
| 21:34.03 | fishbulb | it's cssu |
| 21:34.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's fine |
| 21:34.09 | fishbulb | and power kernel |
| 21:34.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's a problem :-) |
| 21:34.31 | fishbulb | so I'll put cssu and power kernel onto the good phone? |
| 21:34.47 | fishbulb | how do you mean nuke? permanent damage? |
| 21:34.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | you fist need to install power kernel manually on new system, before restoring stuff from backupmenu, then |
| 21:35.09 | fishbulb | so flashing is easier on linux? |
| 21:35.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | no parmanent damage, just unbootable |
| 21:35.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 21:35.33 | fishbulb | I can do the updates via wifi? |
| 21:35.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 21:35.42 | fishbulb | great |
| 21:36.12 | fishbulb | I'm running arch |
| 21:36.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | on PC? |
| 21:36.22 | fishbulb | yeah |
| 21:36.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | should work |
| 21:36.34 | fishbulb | sweet. |
| 21:36.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz |
| 21:38.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh |
| 21:49.39 | fishbulb | how long does flashing take? |
| 21:50.11 | kerio | not much |
| 21:52.52 | fishbulb | do I have the phone on? |
| 21:54.05 | freemangordon | Pali: well, with my patches it works, but frequency is locked on 90MHz and there is no working DVFS |
| 21:54.42 | fishbulb | do I just plug it in and execute the script, or do I plug the phone in while off, or what |
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| 22:14.51 | fishbulb | um |
| 22:15.00 | fishbulb | flashing instructions please? |
| 22:15.10 | fishbulb | plug it in then execute scripts? |
| 22:18.21 | fishbulb | can I dual boot |
| 22:18.40 | fishbulb | is there another useful operating system to run with an n900 |
| 22:33.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | fishbulb: execute the script, see the instructions |
| 22:33.36 | fishbulb | I'm flashing the whole thing |
| 22:38.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | fishbulb: if you get a strenage error from flasher (sth like "file not found" or sth), you need libusb0.1.4 32bit iirc |
| 22:38.59 | fishbulb | just got that error |
| 22:39.03 | fishbulb | where do I find it? |
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| 22:39.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | your distro's package manager |
| 22:40.04 | fishbulb | it's not in there |
| 22:40.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | I couldn't automate that in the scipt since it's different for each distro |
| 22:40.13 | fishbulb | I have to downgrade |
| 22:40.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | ohnoes |
| 22:40.21 | fishbulb | not even sure how to |
| 22:40.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | arch? |
| 22:40.26 | fishbulb | yes |
| 22:40.33 | fishbulb | well antergos |
| 22:42.01 | fishbulb | kernel module collision problem |
| 22:42.05 | fishbulb | I got that too |
| 22:42.32 | fishbulb | fixing flasher-3.5 cdc_phonet kernel module collision problem |
| 22:43.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=194808 |
| 22:45.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=186130 |
| 22:45.08 | fishbulb | that doesn't really help |
| 22:46.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | the latter should |
| 22:46.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | OK, found the libaries: |
| 22:46.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | $ yaourt -S lib32-libusb lib32-libusb-compat |
| 22:46.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | Works now. |
| 22:49.31 | fishbulb | I got the image that contains backupmenu |
| 22:49.34 | fishbulb | where do I put it? |
| 22:50.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | on a uSD? |
| 22:51.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | errr wait. what? |
| 22:51.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | you got the BM-enhanced fiasco image? |
| 22:51.56 | fishbulb | Here's a rootfs image from my N900 with BackupMenu 0.50-3 installed: flashable_rootfs_v0.56-1-20101109.img. This image can be flashed with the Nokia flasher, significantly reducing restore time if you have a "bricked" system. |
| 22:52.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, you prolly rather flash it manually |
| 22:52.41 | fishbulb | how many steps is that |
| 22:52.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | one? |
| 22:52.59 | fishbulb | flash what manually? |
| 22:53.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | flasher-3.5 -f -F <path-to-image> |
| 22:53.33 | fishbulb | then run the script? |
| 22:53.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, first run the script, err, instead of running the script |
| 22:54.35 | fishbulb | so just run flasher 3.5 and it'll do the whole thing? |
| 22:54.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | flasher-3.5 -f -F <path-to-image> |
| 22:54.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | or somesuch |
| 22:55.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe -F -f |
| 22:55.05 | fishbulb | what? |
| 22:55.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | flasher-3.5 -f -F flashable_rootfs_v0.56-1-20101109.img |
| 22:56.09 | fishbulb | what will that flash |
| 22:56.17 | fishbulb | I want to do the whole phone |
| 22:56.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | please read complete page http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 22:58.04 | fishbulb | If you are using the .tar.gz package, use: |
| 22:58.04 | fishbulb | sudo ./flasher-3.5 -F <firmware-image> -f |
| 22:58.11 | fishbulb | that? |
| 23:02.06 | fishbulb | do I do that |
| 23:08.40 | fishbulb | it's not working. |
| 23:09.53 | fishbulb | you wrote this script and you don't know how to flash the phone with the backupmenu image? |
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| 23:21.10 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05: http://wstaw.org/m/2016/03/25/plasma-desktopiO2219.png --> so backup battery is never charged? |
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| 23:21.56 | Pali | freemangordon: ok, are you going to fix it? or what are next plans with tidspbridge? |
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| 23:37.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | pagurus: depends on what kernel does |
| 23:37.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | pali: |
| 23:38.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, ETAB |
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| 23:53.48 | fishbulb | the flash it all script didn't erase everything on the phone |
| 23:53.51 | fishbulb | it's all still there |
| 23:54.48 | fishbulb | all the call history and texts and stuff |
