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| 14:56.06 | kerio | my battery is swollen :c |
| 14:56.38 | kerio | can i use it for 2 more hours |
| 15:11.38 | zGrr | you shoould change it before it burst or catches fire. |
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| 17:01.47 | L29Ah | kerio: try making a hole and evacuating the gas |
| 17:01.57 | kerio | D: |
| 17:02.03 | L29Ah | dunno if it can be done safely though as there's a risk of shorting it |
| 17:02.15 | KotCzarny | or take a hammer and have fireworks |
| 17:02.15 | L29Ah | a tiny drill might do the job |
| 17:02.42 | KotCzarny | its dangerous ayway |
| 17:02.44 | L29Ah | anyway order a replacement first |
| 17:02.47 | KotCzarny | *anyway |
| 17:03.16 | L29Ah | also swollen battery might indicate a malfunction in the device |
| 17:12.16 | KotCzarny | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH9GLlkWnJE |
| 17:12.18 | KotCzarny | funny |
| 17:12.59 | KotCzarny | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4qJ8WcNGwg |
| 17:13.01 | KotCzarny | funnier ;) |
| 17:13.22 | KotCzarny | maybe it matters if battery was charged or empty |
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| 17:14.15 | KotCzarny | but i love this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEo0RhEhFYc |
| 17:24.56 | kerio | what battery do i buy |
| 17:25.08 | kerio | i have a replacement bl-5j which is much less swollen |
| 17:25.12 | kerio | (ayy lmao) |
| 17:25.15 | KotCzarny | ~powercell |
| 17:25.20 | KotCzarny | hrn |
| 17:25.33 | KotCzarny | ~listkeys power |
| 17:25.54 | KotCzarny | ~listkeys cell |
| 17:26.02 | kerio | do original BL-5Js exist |
| 17:26.09 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 17:26.22 | KotCzarny | they were used by some ashas till 2014 or something |
| 17:26.31 | KotCzarny | ~polarcell |
| 17:26.31 | infobot | from memory, polarcell is http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390402445382 BL-5J Replacement |
| 17:26.38 | KotCzarny | right, buy this one |
| 17:28.47 | kerio | i literally just searched for "microsoft bl-5j" |
| 17:28.50 | kerio | feels bad man |
| 17:29.07 | KotCzarny | go for polarcell |
| 17:29.16 | KotCzarny | 1500>1320 |
| 17:29.19 | kerio | 1430 |
| 17:29.23 | KotCzarny | still |
| 17:31.57 | kerio | how the fuck do i search for an original bl-5j |
| 17:37.41 | kerio | also who uses ebay anymore |
| 17:47.19 | KotCzarny | kerio: search for asha bl-5j |
| 17:47.27 | KotCzarny | but as i said, go for polarcell |
| 17:49.00 | KotCzarny | http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOKIA-BL-5J-BATTERY-FOR-NOKIA-Lumia-520-X6-X1-00-N900-C3-00-Asha-200-/321940050618?hash=item4af51f52ba:g:nYIAAOSwbdpWYsdc |
| 17:49.12 | KotCzarny | can't say much if its fake or not |
| 17:49.25 | KotCzarny | right, lumia 520 also uses bl-5j |
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| 18:13.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: L29Ah: damn NO! do not, I repeat *NOT* try to make a hole into the hull of a LiIon battery |
| 18:13.17 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: who are you to tell me what to do |
| 18:13.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | go do whatever you want |
| 18:13.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | F U |
| 18:13.43 | kerio | :< |
| 18:15.08 | KotCzarny | chicken wuss |
| 18:15.43 | L29Ah | DocScrutinizer05: why? |
| 18:16.32 | L29Ah | u don't like hydrogen or that's about shorting the foil layers again? |
| 18:16.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | because odds are you're shorting the cell, and for _sure_ you will allow oxygen reach the Li |
| 18:16.50 | kerio | it can kinda end up in a big flame |
| 18:17.02 | kerio | which can kinda be very fucking dangerous |
| 18:17.17 | L29Ah | 20:29:16]<KotCzarny> 1500>1320 |
| 18:17.18 | L29Ah | is this fake numbers as usual? |
| 18:17.35 | L29Ah | not big |
| 18:18.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | all cells have a vent, so no need to drill a hiole into the hull. WTF |
| 18:18.22 | L29Ah | nope |
| 18:18.34 | L29Ah | otherwise it won't swell |
| 18:18.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | BS |
| 18:18.47 | kerio | i don't think that's the reason |
| 18:18.52 | L29Ah | what's the reason then? |
| 18:19.06 | kerio | LiIon crystals betting out of shape or something |
| 18:19.48 | L29Ah | well, all the swollen batteries i had were quite easy to push back, more like gas than crystals |
| 18:19.54 | KotCzarny | l29ah: polarcell batteries usually have higher cap than 1500 |
| 18:19.55 | L29Ah | never disassembled them tho |
| 18:20.01 | KotCzarny | usually ~1560 |
| 18:20.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: you might notice the swollen battery is "elastic", but pressure in cell is _not_ your problem |
| 18:20.23 | kerio | yeah yeah |
| 18:20.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, L29Ah is right, it feels like gas |
| 18:20.29 | kerio | it's a symptom of something worse |
| 18:20.53 | kerio | i'm now calibrating this old-ish bl-5j |
| 18:21.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | your problem is that cell cheistry deteriorated and might eventially pierce the membrane |
| 18:21.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | chemistry* |
| 18:22.08 | kerio | rip cell |
| 18:22.15 | kerio | where do i throw away the old batteries |
| 18:22.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | when that happens, youi got a possibly serious problem |
| 18:22.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | toxic waste |
| 18:22.40 | KotCzarny | kerio: in the fire |
| 18:22.43 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 18:22.54 | kerio | delicious toxic chemicals |
| 18:22.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | or leave where you get new cells and primary batteries |
| 18:23.00 | KotCzarny | and fireworks |
| 18:23.05 | KotCzarny | dont forget about fire |
| 18:23.05 | kerio | but i'm buying them on the internets D: |
| 18:23.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, every<body does |
| 18:23.24 | kerio | do i trust this shit http://www.ebay.it/itm/Batteria-Blister-1320-mah-Originale-Nokia-BL-5J-bl5j-per-5228-5230-5800-XM-X6-N9-/181960459967?hash=item2a5db046bf:g:ZyIAAOSw5VFWIVtN |
| 18:23.28 | KotCzarny | kerio: most electronic stores allow you to leave old batteries |
| 18:23.28 | kerio | oh god that's a big url |
| 18:23.43 | kerio | aww 1320mAh |
| 18:23.49 | kerio | it's one of the old ones, if it's original at all |
| 18:23.58 | KotCzarny | go polarcell or be damned with a fake |
| 18:24.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, try it, there's no way to tell without holding the battery in your hands (and even then...) |
| 18:24.54 | kerio | what if i get a fake polarcell |
| 18:25.02 | KotCzarny | unlikely |
| 18:25.44 | kerio | should i bother checking IRL shops |
| 18:25.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | I found it's not really worth wasting lots of evaluation and pondering. Get a cell which looks good by specs, test it, when it's actually nice get some more |
| 18:26.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | cells >1500mAh are most likely scum |
| 18:26.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | >1600 for sure are |
| 18:26.49 | KotCzarny | kerio, go tmo and search for happy polarcell users |
| 18:26.58 | kerio | i believe the polarcell is good |
| 18:27.04 | kerio | i don't know if this is a legit powercell |
| 18:27.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | I got several goot "used" BL-5J at shoppee next corner |
| 18:27.08 | kerio | what the fuck is powercell anyway |
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| 18:27.22 | KotCzarny | polarcell, not powercell |
| 18:27.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | good* |
| 18:27.25 | kerio | er yes |
| 18:27.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | advantage: when they are crap, I kick the shop owner's ass |
| 18:31.52 | kerio | oh |
| 18:31.55 | kerio | i just discovered something funny |
| 18:32.03 | kerio | this weird super chinese orange battery i had |
| 18:32.09 | kerio | (which calibrated at like 1500mAh, btw) |
| 18:32.18 | kerio | has ">2400µAh" written on it |
| 18:32.23 | kerio | which is definetely true |
| 18:32.26 | KotCzarny | yeah yeah |
| 18:32.37 | kerio | but kind of expected |
| 18:32.47 | KotCzarny | and will die in a month |
| 18:32.56 | kerio | i don't think you're getting it |
| 18:32.59 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05 got it |
| 18:33.18 | KotCzarny | china is a bit far away |
| 18:33.28 | kerio | µAh, not mAh |
| 18:33.41 | KotCzarny | ahm, utf |
| 18:33.51 | KotCzarny | still on iso here |
| 18:36.38 | kerio | 2400µAh is 2.4mAh right |
| 18:52.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 18:53.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | the category of "this salad doesn't contain asbestos" |
| 18:56.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly I think there are like 2 or 3 genuine cell manufacturers out there |
| 18:57.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | they build lot of different stuff, but there's also stuff they cannot build |
| 18:57.40 | kerio | should i try overclocking |
| 18:57.49 | kerio | this n900 is kind of dying anyway |
| 18:57.58 | kerio | give it a last breath of life or something |
| 18:58.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | the bottleneck is RAM |
| 18:58.30 | kerio | should i try overclocking the ram |
| 18:58.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | that would actually make some sense |
| 18:58.55 | kerio | can i overclock the battery |
| 18:58.58 | kerio | to have more battery |
| 18:59.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, but strongly deprecated |
| 18:59.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | you could charge it to 4.3 or even 4.4V |
| 19:00.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | will give you an extra 100mAh, and a tenth of cycles until EOL |
| 19:00.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | or even risk of cell going thermal runaway |
| 19:00.59 | kerio | brb charging the battery to 8V |
| 19:01.20 | kerio | ok actually how can someone do that safely? |
| 19:01.27 | kerio | long cables and some sort of blast shield? |
| 19:01.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | 5m seem enough |
| 19:01.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | in plain air |
| 19:01.49 | kerio | what about the waste |
| 19:01.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | blast shield not needed |
| 19:02.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | the waste is nasty |
| 19:02.08 | kerio | but i wanted a blast shield :( |
| 19:02.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | the fumes are toxic |
| 19:02.24 | kerio | the blast shield will protect me from the fumes |
| 19:02.43 | kerio | hm, will the popo arrest me for freeing toxic fumes in the atmosphere |
| 19:02.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | no |
| 19:02.57 | kerio | that sounds like the kind of thing one should not be able to do |
| 19:03.08 | kerio | oh :< |
| 19:03.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | a LiIon going pooof emits HF aka flux acid |
| 19:04.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | not much, but HF is highly toxic, makes you get rubber bones |
| 19:05.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrofluoric_acid |
| 19:06.10 | KotCzarny | rubber bones sounds awesome superpower |
| 19:11.20 | KotCzarny | When the concentration of HF approaches 100%, the acidity increases dramatically because of homoassociation |
| 19:11.26 | KotCzarny | homo association |
| 19:14.48 | KotCzarny | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HF_burned_hands.jpg |
| 19:15.01 | KotCzarny | fun stuff |
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| 19:25.36 | kerio | is that a melted finger |
| 19:26.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? in wikipedia article? |
| 19:27.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw some of the cooling agents in car aircon also emit vast amounts of HF when car is burning |
| 19:29.03 | KotCzarny | kerio, yup, you wont notice damage till the next day |
| 19:29.06 | KotCzarny | fun stuff |
| 19:29.12 | KotCzarny | it wont even hurt initially |
| 19:29.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | and you shouldn't heat Galden (perflour ether) above 250°C since it also emits HF then |
| 19:29.20 | KotCzarny | then your tissues start dying |
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| 19:31.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh it seems I've been wrong with 250°C |
| 19:39.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | I still wonder what's the relevant differences for vapor phase soldering between Galden LS230 and HT230 |
| 19:48.34 | KotCzarny | talk article is funny on that acid |
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| 20:22.08 | bluto271828 | I need a fully mobile terminal to remotely access an ncurses tui over ssh. Thinking about buying a refurbished N900 sold on ebay. You all probably follow this stuff. Is there a better option? I need a keyboard, 3G/LTE networking and a true xterm+ssh. smaller the better so can keep with me. sorry if not good place to ask but doesn't exactly look over active so what the hell. why not ask you guys |
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| 20:26.25 | KotCzarny | bluto271828: n900 is good, kb is not bad |
| 20:26.33 | KotCzarny | network wise it's nice too |
| 20:26.56 | KotCzarny | for low memory hungry applications it's very useful |
| 20:27.12 | KotCzarny | subnotebook would beat any mobile keyboard tho |
| 20:27.28 | KotCzarny | try looking for old toshibas/sonys |
| 20:27.49 | kerio | the new 9" ipad pro with an apple smart cover |
| 20:27.58 | kerio | :D |
| 20:28.04 | KotCzarny | ipad, pah |
| 20:28.12 | kerio | ipahd |
| 20:28.40 | bluto271828 | i want real keys |
| 20:29.32 | KotCzarny | how small shall the device be? |
| 20:30.15 | bluto271828 | i really need in pocket so I liked old sharp netwalker |
| 20:30.31 | KotCzarny | http://img.bhs4.com/10/7/107C483D6B685CC0F60C9DCDE40F6B65BCA72272_large.jpg |
| 20:30.33 | bluto271828 | but this doesn't have cell capability |
| 20:30.53 | KotCzarny | keyword for you: umpc |
| 20:30.59 | bluto271828 | yes I know |
| 20:31.09 | bluto271828 | but I'm wondering if anything more recent |
| 20:31.17 | bluto271828 | and linux friendly ideally |
| 20:31.36 | KotCzarny | n900 is not recent, 2009 era, 256M of ram, tiny part of it really available |
| 20:31.38 | bluto271828 | though non-linux is ok if I have true terminal |
| 20:31.44 | KotCzarny | but real linux |
| 20:31.53 | KotCzarny | which is really limiting mobile options |
| 20:32.08 | KotCzarny | http://www.brighthub.com/computing/hardware/articles/43814.aspx |
| 20:32.18 | bluto271828 | yeah do you think they will actually send me one if I buy what they are listing on ebay for sale n900 |
| 20:32.31 | bluto271828 | my netwalker is 2010 |
| 20:33.01 | bluto271828 | vaio is also discontinued correct |
| 20:33.14 | KotCzarny | you can try pandora, it's a bit more recent |
| 20:33.43 | bluto271828 | basically I have a mission critical app that runs in a screen session and performs a heartbeat with a human |
| 20:34.10 | bluto271828 | this app is ncurses based and can navigate very complex commands and reports |
| 20:34.15 | bluto271828 | extremely quickly |
| 20:34.39 | KotCzarny | well, used n900 can be had for ~20-40usd |
| 20:34.53 | KotCzarny | grab it, test it, sell it if not good enough |
| 20:35.04 | bluto271828 | ok it is 100 on ebay |
| 20:35.15 | KotCzarny | too much |
| 20:35.20 | bluto271828 | that is what I was going to do. or maybe that is refurbished |
| 20:35.40 | KotCzarny | if you have friends in europe, try there |
| 20:35.47 | KotCzarny | it's much more popular here |
| 20:36.00 | bluto271828 | but I see there is this IRC for the maemo software so I figure ask if something like that but obsurce that is newer |
| 20:36.41 | bluto271828 | is it easy to upload/modify |
| 20:36.56 | bluto271828 | like is bootloader GRUB or how you can put your own stuff? |
| 20:37.37 | bluto271828 | I mean ideally if it is accessible I would drop it down to framebuffer terminal for example |
| 20:37.53 | KotCzarny | you can stick to maemo os |
| 20:38.00 | KotCzarny | it's really nice/good |
| 20:39.02 | bluto271828 | ok so I'll go get one and come back when i'm trying to set it up. they should be unlocked and work on US cell system like a tmobile sim or whatever |
| 20:39.19 | KotCzarny | sleepy time, nite nite |
| 20:39.31 | bluto271828 | sorry I talked to much? |
| 20:40.16 | bluto271828 | last question. how many character row and column do you think you can get? or what is best resolution an n900 will run in |
| 20:43.12 | bluto271828 | ok. i see it. nevermind. TFT 800 Ã 480 resolution |
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| 21:59.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((character row and column)) depends on font size in osso-xterm, which you can switch on the fly with volume rocker switch - very convenient (though your ncurses app will prolly not cooperate with on the fly fontsize change) |
| 22:00.58 | kerio | all i could ever manage was 79x24 |
| 22:00.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | when you need higher cols count, a pair of good reading glasses might be needed |
| 22:01.01 | kerio | er, 79x25 |
| 22:01.16 | kerio | which really felt like osso-xterm was mocking me |
| 22:01.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | technically prolly 100*40 is feasible |
| 22:02.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | which boils down to 8*12 per char |
| 22:02.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | roughly |
| 22:03.49 | kerio | 10x20 would be nice |
| 22:03.56 | kerio | to get 80x24 when fullscreened |
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| 22:19.36 | ecc3g | odd, i do get the sigwinches to my ncurses apps... |
| 22:20.09 | ecc3g | or at least ssh seems to pass the font resizes... |
| 22:22.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure, but few ncurses apps actually recalculate the layout after init |
| 22:22.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe 50% of apps do |
| 22:23.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | MC does, for example |
| 22:24.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | for the 50% I admit my statistics are quite old, didn't check recently |
| 22:25.30 | bencoh | usually they do on ^L |
| 22:25.35 | bencoh | at least |
| 22:25.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | bluto271828: anyway I'd say you hardly can get any better device than a N900 right now |
| 22:26.43 | bencoh | oh and, I have 88x26 here with fixed 7x13 font |
| 22:26.50 | bencoh | eh, 6x13* |
| 22:27.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | I couldn't really follow your dialog up here, since I'm missing some answers which I suspect where there but not visible to me |
| 22:27.34 | bencoh | ? |
| 22:27.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | bencoh: yeah osso-xterm bottom bar is annoying |
| 22:27.59 | bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: ah right, I dont use osso-xterm :) |
| 22:28.50 | ecc3g | wish there was a way to hit escape and pgup/pgdn without the softkey bar... |
| 22:29.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys kbd |
| 22:29.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget i'm afraid xvkbd |
| 22:29.40 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i forgot i'm afraid xvkbd |
| 22:29.55 | bencoh | I |
| 22:30.04 | bencoh | woops. I'm pretty sure you meant xkb |
| 22:30.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget did you make one of these keys on this kbd sysrq |
| 22:30.12 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i forgot did you make one of these keys on this kbd sysrq |
| 22:30.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~n900-kbd-mapping |
| 22:30.27 | infobot | [vi-kbd] http://wiki.maemo.org/Remapping_keyboard/user_vis_awesome_kbdmapping |
| 22:30.56 | bencoh | maybe I should share my rx-51 keymapping file |
| 22:31.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, for sure |
| 22:33.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | ecc3g: >>escape on Shift+backspace<< |
| 22:33.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>Page up/down & home end on arrows without destroying shift highlighting (in fact shift+end works as it should)<< |
| 22:34.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's caled >>User Vis **Awesome** Kbdmapping<< for a reason |
| 22:35.57 | ecc3g | hmm interesting wish they were marked... and pipe I suppose I can remap one of the blue+ mappings |
| 22:38.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | you can map virtually anything you want |
| 22:38.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's linux ;-) |
| 22:38.44 | ecc3g | I've always wanted to get rid of euro, it always messes me up when I type that accidently. |
| 22:39.12 | ecc3g | (usually not using utf8 mapping) |
| 22:39.31 | bencoh | not exactly everything, but almost yeah |
| 22:40.30 | bluto271828 | ok guys was away |
| 22:40.39 | bluto271828 | because i just bought one off ebay |
| 22:40.43 | bluto271828 | thank you for all info |
| 22:47.42 | bluto271828 | whats really neat is I also know there is this IRC. maybe is there a way to ctrl-alt-F1 into a console and then set the console to WVGA. or maybe using fbterm. |
| 22:48.43 | bluto271828 | I also saw something about running debian in a chroot or something. so it seem like there should be good options to push the terminal to maximum readable size |
| 22:50.28 | bencoh | bluto271828: see easydebian |
| 22:50.42 | bencoh | but you dont need that to use xterm to its fullest |
| 22:52.05 | bencoh | just install xterm, xfonts-base, see vis kbd mapping (or setup your own mapping), and change your font path |
| 22:52.05 | bluto271828 | ok cool. i'm waiting for my n900 to arrive and then I'll come back and let you all know how cool it is. |
| 22:52.28 | bencoh | :) |
| 22:52.29 | bluto271828 | and you mean it will go full screen |
| 22:52.35 | bencoh | hope you enjoy it |
| 22:52.51 | bencoh | xterm != osso-xterm |
| 22:53.00 | bluto271828 | ahh ok |
| 22:53.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | bluto271828: there's xterm on ctl-shift-x iirc |
| 22:54.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | bluto271828: :: |
| 22:54.35 | bluto271828 | ok i'm excited. now I have to wait for it to arrive! hope it can keep an open connection over the 3G in chicago, put i think it should. |
| 22:54.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~usbfix |
| 22:54.36 | infobot | from memory, usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1866, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt |
| 22:54.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing |
| 22:54.47 | infobot | i guess maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh |
| 22:55.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | bluto271828: for reinforcing a working undamaged USB you have no problems with an ordinary 60W iron |
| 22:56.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's really simple for everybody ever done soldering |
| 22:56.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | also: |
| 22:56.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~cssu |
| 22:56.54 | infobot | well, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) |
| 22:57.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | for flashing note the second half of infobot's factoid! |
| 22:58.07 | bluto271828 | one question. how come the mailing lists stopped being archived? seems like a bunch of people still playing around with it? |
| 22:58.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm no idea |
| 22:58.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~techstaff |
| 22:58.33 | infobot | somebody said techstaff was techstaff(AT)maemo.org - the folks that keep your maemo infra running. Devotion to Duty http://xkcd.com/705/ |
| 23:00.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: ^^^ |
| 23:00.24 | bluto271828 | ok let me get the gear and perhaps you will get a not too horrible hacker to join up with you. i know how to role quite a bit of stuff but always question of priorities. lets see. also going to keep my eye on https://pyra-handheld.com/ |
| 23:00.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | *sigh* |
| 23:00.55 | bluto271828 | and see if they actually produce it and if there is a way to add modem |
| 23:01.02 | bluto271828 | but at least n900 exists |
| 23:01.09 | bluto271828 | and supposedly is on its way to me |
| 23:01.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | if pyra wasn't such a timesink, neo900 would be closer to getting finished |
| 23:01.37 | bluto271828 | oh ok |
| 23:01.41 | bluto271828 | see i don't shit |
| 23:01.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | no badmouthing about pyra though, awesome project |
| 23:01.50 | bluto271828 | i don't know shit |
| 23:02.07 | bluto271828 | ok i didn't know about that |
| 23:02.08 | bluto271828 | sorry |
| 23:02.12 | bluto271828 | little out of the loop |
| 23:02.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | np, not your fault either way |
| 23:02.20 | bluto271828 | http://neo900.org/ |
| 23:02.27 | bluto271828 | correct? |
| 23:02.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 23:02.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91142 |
| 23:03.18 | bluto271828 | ok but all of this is awesome |
| 23:03.35 | bluto271828 | because the netwalker stuff is completely dead and never had modem |
| 23:03.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | (pyra) they are already about to produce it, with same modem like Neo900 |
| 23:04.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | alas getting there caused severe overload to Nikolaus so now he's busy with catching up on private stuff, so I/Neo900 are without layouter for the next 6 to 9 months |
| 23:05.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | Or I find an alternative |
| 23:06.03 | bluto271828 | ok i'll be back tomorrow to listen in on this channel and the others |
| 23:06.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | welcome |
| 23:06.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 23:06.20 | bluto271828 | thank you. |
| 23:06.53 | bluto271828 | new area to learn about. so thank you very much for info |
| 23:07.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | np |
| 23:07.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | thanks for keeping maemo alive |
| 23:07.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | just make sure to *ask* particularly when new to N900 |
| 23:08.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | stuff isn't always like you'd think it should# |
| 23:08.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh |
| 23:08.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools |
| 23:08.28 | infobot | methinks jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 23:09.29 | bluto271828 | ok later. |
| 23:09.32 | bluto271828 | bye |
| 23:09.35 | bluto271828 | \q |
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