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| 11:18.22 | Oksanaa | Dear Mussorgsky users: do you remember the feature to edit album art-picture? The one which takes "ages" to work /since it uses Internet/ and does not allow to browse images from local fs? |
| 11:20.10 | Oksanaa | Well, congratulations: entirely by accident, an image from local fs became the cover for one of my albums. This bug has my thanks, but take care: it can have unpleasant consequences if unrestrained, and it happened while I was editing Metadata /not Album Art/ |
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| 13:29.55 | sixwheeledbeast | mussorgsky, I considered that broken a long time ago. |
| 13:53.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm I thought this was still my tool of choice to edit metadata of all kind (incl album art) of any albums |
| 13:53.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | I didn't use it for ages though |
| 13:54.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | then otoh the album art in Amarok also is sort of broken |
| 13:55.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | web interface changed? |
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| 14:41.56 | L29Ah | found his empty aliexpress packages |
| 14:42.06 | L29Ah | now i'm ready for n900fly contest |
| 14:58.25 | kerio | :D |
| 14:58.46 | KotCzarny | too lazy |
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| 16:35.53 | Vajb | i tried musorgsky, but it didn't work. Or could't figure out how to use it. |
| 16:39.16 | sixwheeledbeast | Use musicbrainz on desktop for album art etc here. easier to do on desktop and sync IMO |
| 16:39.24 | Vajb | ah btw laptop is now ordered. I hope it is good. hp 350 i3 5010U, 4gb ram, win 8.1 |
| 16:41.28 | Vajb | i use rhythmbox to tweak id tags on desktop |
| 16:42.12 | KotCzarny | i just use patchs/filenames |
| 16:42.19 | KotCzarny | *paths |
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| 17:17.54 | drathir | Vajb: hp alvays overpriced with low spec... |
| 17:18.33 | KotCzarny | part of the price is the support |
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| 17:24.33 | drathir | KotCzarny: if support matter is dell ones... |
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| 18:56.35 | Vajb | drathir: that was cheapest with that cpu. Others in same range had i3 5005U |
| 18:57.06 | kerio | Vajb: no macbook? :( |
| 18:57.20 | Vajb | though that wasn't first choise, |
| 18:57.28 | KotCzarny | 'choice' |
| 18:57.30 | Vajb | but the one that could be bough |
| 18:57.34 | KotCzarny | 'bought' |
| 18:57.40 | Vajb | thx KotCzarny |
| 18:57.44 | KotCzarny | yw |
| 18:57.55 | KotCzarny | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWPY8UFWXcQ |
| 18:58.00 | KotCzarny | im in love with this song |
| 18:58.18 | KotCzarny | and i love google. found it via part of the lyrics |
| 18:58.28 | Vajb | first choice was lenovo 50-80 i3 4030U 8gb ram and 1tb hdd |
| 18:59.20 | Vajb | but two web shops that offered it encountered an error without explanation so couldn't make order |
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| 19:01.03 | Vajb | kerio: no, no macbook. Budget ended up to be less than 400⬠|
| 19:01.15 | kerio | but super fast, right |
| 19:01.27 | kerio | :| |
| 19:01.47 | Vajb | well for sure i'll hear it once in awhile if it is not... |
| 19:02.00 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:02.38 | Vajb | but it has to be faster than acer aspire 5315, right |
| 19:02.53 | KotCzarny | acers are budget machines |
| 19:02.56 | Vajb | 9yo with celeron cpu |
| 19:03.16 | Vajb | and *drumm roll* windows vista |
| 19:03.39 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:03.50 | Vajb | hmm |
| 19:04.10 | Vajb | goes to cpuboss to compare processors of these two |
| 19:06.02 | Vajb | 7.4 vs 1.7 |
| 19:10.57 | KotCzarny | singlecore comprison?? |
| 19:13.15 | drathir | Vajb: rasus 556-lb-xo154d |
| 19:13.42 | drathir | Vajb: asus r556-lb-xo154d* |
| 19:14.17 | Vajb | total score |
| 19:14.31 | KotCzarny | compare singlecore |
| 19:14.45 | KotCzarny | thats often most interesting |
| 19:14.51 | Vajb | 7.5 - 5.6 |
| 19:15.01 | drathir | Vajb: nothin better in performance vs low price... |
| 19:15.30 | KotCzarny | drathir: how about second hand i5 thinkpad? :P |
| 19:15.55 | Vajb | drathir: that brand name sounds familiar, but i recall that that went over budget slightly |
| 19:16.31 | drathir | KotCzarny: speakin about brand new from shop... ofc second hand much wider possibility of chose... |
| 19:16.49 | KotCzarny | i'm going to buy thinkpad t500 (with ati 3650) tomorrow for ~400pln |
| 19:17.00 | KotCzarny | 4gb of ram, 2.4G cpu, 320G hdd |
| 19:17.22 | KotCzarny | 400pln == ~110usd |
| 19:19.25 | drathir | KotCzarny: yea from second hand possible to find nice top grade past generation ones, but there lucky needed a little... |
| 19:19.34 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 19:19.45 | KotCzarny | but then you get the best bang for your buck |
| 19:20.25 | drathir | KotCzarny: like was in past that titan ones cases ibm, bulletproof ones... |
| 19:20.36 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 19:20.53 | KotCzarny | still, it will be my oldie gaming rig |
| 19:21.55 | drathir | from old ones asus x550vb reccomend too but hard to find ones... |
| 19:22.02 | Vajb | can't find that exact asus model anywhere here |
| 19:22.49 | KotCzarny | drathir: i prefer blockiness of thinkpads |
| 19:23.03 | KotCzarny | hate those curves on laptops |
| 19:26.05 | Vajb | what puzzles me the most is that they sell laptops with exact same brand name, but with different specs |
| 19:26.25 | KotCzarny | vajb, yup, you have to check exact type |
| 19:26.31 | KotCzarny | all those little letters matter |
| 19:26.42 | Vajb | what's the logic behind that? |
| 19:26.56 | KotCzarny | preconfigured machines |
| 19:27.13 | Sicelo | Vajb: there'll be many variants of a VW 1.4 ;) |
| 19:27.20 | KotCzarny | in thinkpads there is a special type when customer wishes special config |
| 19:27.20 | Sicelo | *Golf |
| 19:27.41 | KotCzarny | and then there is: Type xxxx-CTO (customised to order) |
| 19:28.07 | Vajb | Sicelo: for sure one option aint 1.9 tdi, if u go to see 1.4 golf specs ;) |
| 19:28.30 | KotCzarny | vajb: you can have different cpus too |
| 19:28.38 | KotCzarny | celeron vs full, i3 vs i5 etc |
| 19:29.10 | Vajb | ok so sellers can preorder their laptops with weaker gear if they wanna make them look "cheaper" than store next door? |
| 19:29.36 | drathir | Vajb: in shops mostly almost the same specs not worth one, but diff prices... |
| 19:29.54 | KotCzarny | vajb, it's more about 'i want configured it like that that, oh, this preconfigured system fits me' |
| 19:30.00 | KotCzarny | then it gets shipped faster |
| 19:30.07 | drathir | hard to find at markets any reasonale offers sadly... |
| 19:30.16 | KotCzarny | also, it makes easier to find specs of particular machine |
| 19:32.30 | drathir | Vajb: that why in asus needed full name bc its points to correct hw, even marked os... |
| 19:32.41 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 19:32.44 | KotCzarny | full config |
| 19:33.07 | KotCzarny | in thinkpads its kind of: thinkpad t520 type xxxx-yyy |
| 19:33.22 | Vajb | i c |
| 19:33.47 | Vajb | i tried to look that particular asus, but only match i got were on polish sites |
| 19:34.04 | Vajb | so i guess it varies over countries too |
| 19:34.57 | Vajb | it said to have i5 5200u processor and only asus i cn buy here with that processors is 17" model with price tag 799 |
| 19:35.10 | drathir | Vajb: yea i guess almost all brands have regional offers... often even bc of power suppy sadly... |
| 19:35.26 | Vajb | yeah |
| 19:42.59 | drathir | Vajb: and from really cheap ones lenovo g50-80 if good remmember with dedi radeon r5 330m if good remember... but is huge performance difference to listed earlier... that one is weaker one... |
| 19:52.05 | Vajb | there were two options of that lenovo we were looking. Other was i3 4030 and other i3 5005 |
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| 19:52.22 | Vajb | also one had dvd other didn't |
| 19:52.29 | KotCzarny | did you buy ssd too? |
| 19:52.41 | KotCzarny | as its the big factor in speedy ui |
| 19:53.45 | drathir | Vajb: for performance one primary search 740m/940m and i5 at least... |
| 19:54.43 | Vajb | ssd was over budget. Or well 128gb was option, but was considered too small |
| 19:55.01 | KotCzarny | vajb, put in the todo list |
| 19:55.23 | Vajb | to buy ssd hdd? |
| 19:55.26 | KotCzarny | really, and then move big hdd into dvd slot |
| 19:55.27 | drathir | also avoid 17" them mostly much more expensive bc of jump price betwenn 15 to 17" jump in size... |
| 19:57.55 | drathir | Vajb: ssd and ram mostly 4G min is fine that always possible to add other parts like cpu/gpu harder... |
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| 20:06.19 | Vajb | ok. Will know "if it was what was expected when it arrives" :) |
| 20:06.30 | Vajb | then i'll plan possible changes |
| 20:06.52 | KotCzarny | remember, you can install os on ssd, and keep your data on 2nd hdd |
| 20:07.57 | Vajb | yeah, that is, if i wanna sacrifice dvd slot |
| 20:08.36 | KotCzarny | how often do you use it? |
| 20:09.06 | KotCzarny | http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41T-V0UubqL._SS400_.jpg |
| 20:10.27 | Vajb | depends from weekly to monthly |
| 20:10.36 | Vajb | hmm varies* |
| 20:10.55 | KotCzarny | then you will do fine with usb adapter for dvd |
| 20:12.21 | Vajb | oh, it is just sort of adapter cable for excisting drive |
| 20:12.27 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 20:12.36 | KotCzarny | sata to usb really |
| 20:12.49 | KotCzarny | + proper connector |
| 20:12.59 | drathir | there even cases external one but prices differ... |
| 20:13.21 | KotCzarny | you can even get full enclosure http://image.dhgate.com/albu_108482617_00/1.0x0.jpg |
| 20:15.12 | Vajb | hmm is there such cables for ide too? Or they require external power supply? |
| 20:15.37 | KotCzarny | mobile ide provides power too usually (44pin) |
| 20:15.42 | drathir | Vajb: yea but with external power adapter mostly .... |
| 20:16.00 | drathir | for ide ofc... |
| 20:17.45 | Vajb | hmm actually i recall that i saw some hdd adapter for ide in ebay few years ago, but didn't order for some reason (probably forgot) |
| 20:18.11 | KotCzarny | i use sata drive with ide only system |
| 20:18.32 | KotCzarny | those enclosures can have own bridge cip |
| 20:18.34 | KotCzarny | chip |
| 20:18.38 | joga | I've a sata/pata -> usb adapter right here with a huge power brick... but you could just as well use a common pc PSU or something |
| 20:19.31 | KotCzarny | mobile hdd/cd/dvd can work on only 5v |
| 20:20.13 | joga | yeah I guess |
| 20:20.22 | joga | at least a 2.5" sata disk should |
| 20:20.35 | joga | been a while since I last tried though |
| 20:20.37 | KotCzarny | 2.5 ide too |
| 20:21.34 | KotCzarny | if your drive isnt demanding greatly you can just plug something like this in ide drive: http://img.dxcdn.com/productimages/sku_33397_1.jpg |
| 20:21.40 | KotCzarny | and it will go on usb alone |
| 20:22.32 | Sicelo | ide? that doesn't go to the motor afaik. you need to put power in the 4-pin one |
| 20:22.53 | KotCzarny | sicelo: i was running ide drives without external power |
| 20:22.56 | KotCzarny | 44pin provides power |
| 20:23.18 | KotCzarny | i'm talking about mobile drives, not 3.5" |
| 20:23.26 | Sicelo | ah, i got you now :) |
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| 20:32.12 | Vajb | i was talking 2.5" and 3.5". So latter needs power |
| 20:33.10 | KotCzarny | its about needing 12v |
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