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00:28.26*** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet
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18:35.54KotCzarnyhrm
18:36.13KotCzarnydisabling memory cache makes iceweasel use almost constant 130-140M of mem
18:36.42KotCzarnycould it be the key for a decent browser on n900?
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18:41.26Siceloyou can test in microb first
18:42.41KotCzarnydoes it support disabling mem cache?
18:43.07KotCzarnyanyone with debian chroot handy?
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18:53.56Maxdamantuswonders what the actual advantage of memory-based cache in things like browsers.
18:54.09Maxdamantuss/.$/ is./
18:54.16MaxdamantusIt's not like Linux has some sort of disk cache, right?
18:55.08ecc3gprobably for some embedded system with read only disk...?
18:55.10Wizzup:Sarcasm detected:
18:55.24KotCzarnymaxd: i think it's for rendered objects/history
18:56.16MaxdamantusIt also caches HTTP responses in memory.
18:56.51KotCzarnyanyway, after several pages memory stays at ~130-150M
18:57.12KotCzarny(i'm testing on 1GB machine without swap)
18:57.37KotCzarnyearlier with memcache on it was calling oom-killer just after few clicks
19:03.48ds3"disk" writes can be expensive
19:04.15MaxdamantusLinux also caches those.
19:04.29Maxdamantusunless you mess with crap like fsync.
19:04.56KotCzarnynono, not system cache
19:05.02KotCzarnyin-browser mem and disk cache
19:06.13MaxdamantusYes, but most of what's provided by the former are also provided by the latter if you don't do stupid things like fsync all the time.
19:07.00KotCzarnyunless you disable both
19:07.32KotCzarnythen it wont cache anything (ie. flush objects as soon as page is closed)
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20:08.34Sicelo20:42 < KotCzarny> does it support disabling mem cache?
20:08.55Sicelohow do you do it? microb does does have most of the standart about:config options
20:09.06KotCzarnyyes, that way
20:10.38KotCzarnybrowser.cache.disk.enable and browser.cache.memory.enable (both set to: false)
20:11.22KotCzarnymind you, it's bad if your gsm data is limited
20:15.54bencohKotCzarny: so did you try on microb?
20:16.44KotCzarnynot yet
20:17.01KotCzarnyi was rather thinking about regular firefox/iceweasel
20:17.01bencohhmm, cache.memory.capacity is already set to 40960
20:17.10bencoh40mo, not that much
20:17.31KotCzarnybencoh: 40M is a lot when you only have few megs available
20:22.36bencohwell at least it quickly gives memory back when switching between pages
20:22.44bencoh(apple.com -> kernel.org for instance)
20:23.03KotCzarnyunless it goes swapped
20:23.11KotCzarnythen it's not so quick
20:23.20KotCzarnys/goes/gets/
20:24.50bencohsystem still feels snappy so I dont think it's swapping a lot
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20:25.18DocScrutinizer05standard
20:27.01bencoh?
20:36.32DocScrutinizer05~spell standart
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20:36.56DocScrutinizer05that's poor, infobot
20:37.02DocScrutinizer05~spell standard
20:37.02L29Ahßtändärt
20:37.51DocScrutinizer05~spell kitchen
20:38.02DocScrutinizer05infobot: useless
20:38.02infobotACTION starts crying and hides from docscrutinizer05 in the darkest corner of the room. :(
20:40.02DocScrutinizer05~dict standard
20:40.24DocScrutinizer05~dict stand
20:40.30DocScrutinizer05~dict art
20:42.43bencoh~dict bot
20:42.54bencohyeeeaah riiiiight.
20:42.58KotCzarny~dict bencoh
20:43.10bencohis undefined
20:43.32KotCzarnydragons ahead!
20:48.05DocScrutinizer05~dict 8 bot
20:55.39KotCzarnytried different memory.cache.size values, all finished with oom-killer
20:56.11KotCzarnyeither there is a bug or it's bahving different than expected
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21:19.12KotCzarnyfunnily enough trying to open 4160x3120x24bit makes machine swap furiously
21:19.36KotCzarnyfirefox has some funky upscaler when resizing images
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23:32.56Maxdamantus“In short: just say NO TO DRUGS, and maybe you won't end up like the Hurd people.”
23:33.00Maxdamantus—Linus Torvalds
23:35.19MaxdamantusHeh, that's already on Wikiquote.
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