| 00:04.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | funny name |
| 00:05.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | is this the kernel patch? |
| 00:05.29 | luf_ | just the errata in provides ;) |
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| 02:44.58 | jonwil | hi |
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| 10:29.25 | zGrr | moin |
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| 11:25.56 | Oksanaa | What is gtk-config? |
| 11:26.17 | KotCzarny | tool to change some gtk theme settings? |
| 11:26.29 | KotCzarny | just kidding |
| 11:26.45 | KotCzarny | it's the thing that prints include and linking paths |
| 11:26.50 | Oksanaa | I cannot find anything like gtk-config on maemo 5 fremantle |
| 11:27.11 | KotCzarny | it's only needed if you want to compile things on device |
| 11:27.31 | KotCzarny | should be in libgtk*-dev package |
| 11:27.31 | Oksanaa | yes, I am trying to compile soundtracker |
| 11:27.59 | KotCzarny | you can fake it by writing simple shell script |
| 11:29.03 | Oksanaa | libgtk2.0-dev ? |
| 11:29.07 | KotCzarny | probably |
| 11:32.13 | Oksanaa | Nay, already installed, and no gtk-config in it |
| 11:32.24 | KotCzarny | then just copy from desktop |
| 11:33.09 | Oksanaa | windows user, unfortunately |
| 11:33.27 | Oksanaa | and too lazy to switch on the desktop, anyway |
| 11:33.53 | KotCzarny | http://pastebin.com/raw/eBAJw6uq |
| 11:34.04 | KotCzarny | ahm, wait, that's 1.2 |
| 11:34.20 | Oksanaa | any difference? |
| 11:34.42 | KotCzarny | hrm, 2.0 and 1.2 use incompatible headers i guess |
| 11:35.20 | KotCzarny | but i dont see 2.0 one, so it might be your package tries to use gtk1.2 |
| 11:35.36 | Oksanaa | so it does |
| 11:35.38 | KotCzarny | which might be true because soundtracker is old |
| 11:35.48 | KotCzarny | then install libgtk1.2-dev |
| 11:37.11 | Oksanaa | will it even work? |
| 11:37.18 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 11:37.28 | KotCzarny | i had xmms on the n900 (which uses gtk1.2) |
| 11:37.44 | KotCzarny | and you can have both installed 1.2 and 2.0 |
| 11:41.29 | Oksanaa | okay, where to get libgtk1.2-dev in deb? http://archive.debian.net/lenny/oldlibs/libglib1.2-dev |
| 11:42.17 | Oksanaa | gtk, not glib |
| 11:43.09 | KotCzarny | you can just compile it, and yes, old debian ones should work too |
| 11:43.51 | Oksanaa | ouchy... libgtk1.2-dev, libglib1.2-dev, libgtk1.2... |
| 11:44.06 | KotCzarny | yup, debian style |
| 11:48.28 | Oksanaa | libgtk1.2-common... |
| 11:48.49 | Oksanaa | feels a need for hildon-gui tracker |
| 11:50.41 | bencoh | hildon-gui tracker? what would that be? |
| 11:52.04 | Oksanaa | Like, MilkyTracker, SoundTracker, Buzztrax. Only, touchfriendly, hildon-based... |
| 11:52.27 | KotCzarny | dont use the word 'hildon' |
| 11:52.46 | KotCzarny | what you mean is: touch-ui music tracker app |
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| 11:53.46 | Oksanaa | Yes, but I mean, I would prefer the hildon-stylised GUI. Not sure what's the correct name for this GTK+based GUI |
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| 11:53.59 | KotCzarny | hildon uses gtk |
| 11:54.13 | Oksanaa | But it's more than Gtk |
| 11:54.37 | Oksanaa | Just take a look at navit's gtk gui: it's cluttered and tiny |
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| 11:54.42 | KotCzarny | take any generic gtk2 based app and run without any hildonizing on n900 |
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| 11:54.43 | KotCzarny | you will see |
| 11:55.01 | KotCzarny | yes, that's the 'touch-ui' part |
| 11:55.40 | Oksanaa | thought there are hildon-widgets built atop gtk widgets |
| 11:55.55 | Oksanaa | did not code for a long time, though |
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| 11:59.04 | Oksanaa | Thank you. gtk-config is here, now |
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| 12:14.15 | bencoh | Oksanaa: cutetube is hildonized (using qt-hildon-something), I'm pretty sure what you mean is gtk/hildon :) |
| 12:14.54 | bencoh | (I guess you dont really fancy qt apps ;) |
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| 18:14.16 | KotCzarny | hmm, anyone ever played with scratchbox running on arm? |
| 18:26.05 | L29Ah | not much point in running qemu-arm on arm |
| 18:26.12 | L29Ah | it might be even slower than on n900 itself |
| 18:27.03 | L29Ah | tho sandboxing maemo devel stuff away in lxc on a decent arm computer sounds good |
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| 19:17.59 | Maxdamantus | Wouldn't it just run the arm things without qemu? |
| 19:18.17 | Maxdamantus | Like how it seems to run x86 things without qemu on x86. |
| 19:23.23 | KotCzarny | maxd, but installer puts things with x86 in mind |
| 19:23.32 | KotCzarny | so it wont run out of the box |
| 19:23.56 | KotCzarny | and i'm thinking about having maemo dev env on native armel |
| 19:24.20 | KotCzarny | (without dirupting host, so some kind of chroot is a must) |
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| 19:36.31 | kerio | doesn't it just use binfmt for qemu? |
| 19:39.26 | KotCzarny | so it would run at native speed? |
| 19:39.39 | kerio | i mean |
| 19:39.43 | kerio | there's definetely stuff that will go wrong |
| 19:39.46 | kerio | it's scratchbox |
| 19:40.28 | KotCzarny | well, tools in sb are x86 |
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| 19:40.40 | KotCzarny | so gcc wont run at all |
| 19:44.44 | Oksanaa | Funny... Soundtracker is here, but no text whatsoever in its gui. Numbers are here, letters aren't |
| 19:46.09 | KotCzarny | probably missing x fonts |
| 19:46.18 | KotCzarny | (bitmap ones, not truetype) |
| 19:46.50 | KotCzarny | x on n900 doesnt use disk fonts, only builtins for bitmap fonts |
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| 19:47.49 | Oksanaa | huh, and what is the package for bitmap fonts? |
| 19:48.03 | KotCzarny | see above: needs recompiled x server |
| 19:48.26 | Oksanaa | Nay, no, not a chance in... |
| 19:48.33 | Oksanaa | Right? |
| 19:49.04 | KotCzarny | but i might be wrong, otoh my memory says i had similar problem |
| 19:49.44 | Oksanaa | Hmpf. Strange X installation. You don't have the 5x8 font? |
| 19:49.57 | KotCzarny | no nothing |
| 19:50.04 | KotCzarny | only ttf fonts are supported |
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| 19:57.36 | bencoh | wait, what? no! |
| 19:57.54 | KotCzarny | xlsfonts or it didnt happen :P |
| 19:58.13 | bencoh | xset +fp |
| 19:58.30 | bencoh | you need to add your font folder to X font path |
| 19:58.32 | KotCzarny | i think i have tried it |
| 19:59.44 | bencoh | KotCzarny: I use iso10646 fixed (5x8, 6x13, 7x14, ...) fonts here |
| 19:59.53 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 20:00.03 | bencoh | and you can add the misc/ folder either using xset +fp |
| 20:00.07 | bencoh | or editing xorg conf |
| 20:00.19 | KotCzarny | gotta try it tomorrow |
| 20:00.35 | bencoh | xorg.conf, ection "Files", FontPath |
| 20:02.23 | bencoh | fixed fonts comme with xfonts-base package and they sit in /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc |
| 20:03.22 | bencoh | come* |
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| 20:05.22 | bencoh | Oksanaa: ^ btw |
| 20:05.49 | Oksanaa | Thank you :-) Will check it out |
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