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| 15:24.27 | KotCzarny | ~maemo-repos |
| 15:24.27 | infobot | hmm... maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories |
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| 15:49.52 | ceene | ~flasher |
| 15:49.53 | infobot | somebody said flasher was at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ |
| 15:50.03 | KotCzarny | ~flashing |
| 15:50.04 | infobot | well, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh |
| 15:50.04 | ceene | ~images |
| 15:50.09 | KotCzarny | use that script |
| 15:50.13 | ceene | that's the thing, thanks |
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| 16:52.02 | Sicelo | ~seen luf |
| 16:52.08 | infobot | luf <~luf@80.188.29.62> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 490d 8h 2m 18s ago, saying: 'I know.'. |
| 16:52.24 | Sicelo | ~seen luf_ |
| 16:52.24 | infobot | i haven't seen 'luf_', Sicelo |
| 16:52.27 | Sicelo | ~seen luf__ |
| 16:52.27 | infobot | luf__ <~luf@ip-89-103-184-51.net.upcbroadband.cz> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 8d 18h 43m 39s ago, saying: 'bencoh: As you can see I answered few weeks ago. I'll try pm. Thanks.'. |
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| 19:39.30 | Sicelo | um :/ |
| 19:39.34 | Sicelo | http://talk.maemo.org/announcement.php?f=&a=7 |
| 19:39.36 | Sicelo | ? |
| 19:39.50 | kerio | hi |
| 19:42.32 | KotCzarny | um? |
| 19:42.36 | KotCzarny | seems empty |
| 19:43.46 | KotCzarny | probably some live testing |
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| 19:55.52 | Sicelo | finally got my N900 to 'get' Internet from my other phone |
| 19:56.54 | capitanocrunch | if i run visudo it says visudo: no editor found (editor path = /bin/vi) |
| 19:57.18 | KotCzarny | ln -s /usr/bin/mcedit /bin/vi |
| 19:57.19 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 19:57.24 | KotCzarny | or whatever |
| 19:57.41 | KotCzarny | or just edit your env variables |
| 19:57.49 | capitanocrunch | infact which vi says /usr/bin/vi |
| 19:59.07 | capitanocrunch | i have to try: env editor=/usr/bin/vi visudo ? |
| 20:00.33 | KotCzarny | check ~/.profile and ~/.bashrc |
| 20:00.41 | KotCzarny | and /etc/profile and /etc/bashrc |
| 20:00.57 | capitanocrunch | ok |
| 20:01.29 | Sicelo | oh.. should have added "via bluetooth" :) |
| 20:03.54 | KotCzarny | sicelo: where's the wiki howto? |
| 20:04.27 | Sicelo | coming. :) |
| 20:04.41 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 20:04.42 | Sicelo | got to cleanup this thing first. actually there's thread about it |
| 20:04.55 | Sicelo | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=37198 |
| 20:04.56 | KotCzarny | thread is one thing, wiki entry is another |
| 20:05.26 | KotCzarny | did i say that i got orange pi pc? |
| 20:06.11 | KotCzarny | and that chromium is a bit faster than firefox? (or at least hides the rough edges better) |
| 20:06.32 | KotCzarny | not to mention chromium has support for accelerating rendering via egl |
| 20:06.42 | Sicelo | no. you didn't. but ff is known to be slow 'everywhere' right? |
| 20:06.56 | Sicelo | actually it annoys me on my pc |
| 20:07.05 | KotCzarny | sicelo: recent firefox releases slowed it down a lot :/ |
| 20:07.25 | KotCzarny | that's what you got for using DOM for UI |
| 20:09.44 | KotCzarny | not to mention mozilla doesnt provide arm linux builds :/ |
| 20:09.58 | KotCzarny | and iceweasel in debian-jessie is ancient (38) |
| 20:12.06 | KotCzarny | on a positive note, 8 core armv7 farm eating <10W ? nice |
| 20:13.51 | Sicelo | KotCzarny: there's a special iceweasel repo |
| 20:14.12 | Sicelo | i'm on wheezy with iceweasel 43 |
| 20:14.23 | KotCzarny | arm ? |
| 20:14.32 | KotCzarny | armhf to be exact? |
| 20:14.38 | Sicelo | ah, no. don't know what's going on there :) |
| 20:15.10 | KotCzarny | when i finish setting things up, i'll try compiling firefox ;) |
| 20:15.25 | Sicelo | deleting my reddit account. not using it much. RSS serving my needs better |
| 20:15.26 | KotCzarny | hope i wont fry anything |
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| 20:42.45 | sunshavi | Sicelo: bluetooth NAP running here on n900 |
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| 20:45.04 | sunshavi | KotCzarny: congrats on ur orange |
| 20:45.39 | KotCzarny | sunshavi: thx, to be honest it's not that good, but at least it booted and seems to work fine |
| 20:46.49 | sunshavi | good to know, which one do u prefer? banana|orange|??? |
| 20:47.47 | Sicelo | sunshavi: i've never used NAP anywhere. |
| 20:48.07 | KotCzarny | i would prefer the one with full support (unfortunatelly both banana and orange are badly supported, if it wasn't for the sunxi community they would've failed |
| 20:48.47 | sunshavi | KotCzarny: I would like raspberry pi zero |
| 20:49.04 | KotCzarny | naaah, broadcom :/ |
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| 20:52.57 | sunshavi | KotCzarny: mmm, raspberry pi zero, is the cheaper way of getting a device for flashing rom on my laptop, (the gpio pins) |
| 20:53.39 | KotCzarny | um, seriously, those allwinner boards go for 10-20usd |
| 20:53.59 | sunshavi | KotCzarny: mmm, good price too |
| 20:54.48 | KotCzarny | if you just want simple machine with gpio ports, they are nice, for desktop/laptop replacement, a bit on the slow side |
| 20:56.02 | KotCzarny | their biggest advantage is miniscule power req |
| 20:56.16 | KotCzarny | 2-5W for the whole computer? i'm digging it |
| 20:57.03 | sunshavi | that's great, do u buy it on aliexpress? |
| 20:57.05 | KotCzarny | 2-5W though n900 eats 1/10 of that |
| 20:57.31 | KotCzarny | nah, local sites (i'm lazy) |
| 20:57.36 | sunshavi | then, how to put gpio en n900, :)? |
| 20:57.59 | sunshavi | no local sites where to get it on my country |
| 20:58.15 | KotCzarny | bt adapter maybe? |
| 20:59.08 | sunshavi | KotCzarny: bluetooth adapter? |
| 20:59.47 | KotCzarny | just kidding, dont know if such thing exists |
| 21:00.27 | sunshavi | Sicelo: what it is not working for me on the n900 is the dbus bluetooth connection, it used to work with the python script that is mentioned on the wiki |
| 21:02.25 | Sicelo | you mean NAP? |
| 21:04.17 | sunshavi | Sicelo: bluetooth Network Access Point |
| 21:04.55 | sunshavi | my n800 feed the rest of mobile devices with internet access throught bluetooth |
| 21:05.19 | sunshavi | It is great for battery life. And also it is great for the planet |
| 21:07.15 | Sicelo | nice |
| 21:07.41 | Sicelo | i think i'd use wifi? :? |
| 21:08.20 | sunshavi | Sicelo: wifi power consumption is hight |
| 21:09.13 | Sicelo | okay |
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| 21:51.32 | Sicelo | lenovo yoga bluetooth keyboard .. used this for a bit and liked it for N900 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=37198 |
| 21:51.43 | Sicelo | not compact, but really good imo |
| 21:51.59 | Sicelo | ah, wrong link, http://www.walmart.com/ip/Lenovo-BKC600-Yoga-10-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Cover/33620211 |
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| 22:15.34 | luf_ | Sicelo: ping |
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| 22:15.42 | luf_ | Sicelo009N: ping |
| 22:16.30 | Sicelo009N | hi :) |
| 22:17.22 | luf_ | Hello ;) I see you were looking for me. |
| 22:17.41 | Sicelo009N | was testing the bluetooth speaker thing. unfortunately, it didn't go well. however, i found that the speaker/headset is useable for calls, but audio still comes ut of N900 speakers |
| 22:17.55 | luf_ | BTW in bluez 4.99 is DUN and NAP compiled by default. |
| 22:18.12 | luf_ | Sicelo009N: Are you able to get debug from bluez? |
| 22:18.14 | Sicelo009N | other devices see this bluetooth 'properly' and can play music via it |
| 22:18.38 | Sicelo009N | anyway, shitty chinese thing. still going to test with other device sometime |
| 22:18.45 | luf_ | I understand but I don't have such device for testing :( |
| 22:19.04 | Sicelo009N | i'll hopefully find soon :) |
| 22:19.51 | Sicelo009N | let me quickly test the speaker with pc |
| 22:20.23 | luf_ | Ok. Anyway I'll be interested in bluez debug :) |
| 22:21.11 | Sicelo009N | ok. works with pc, have to specifically choose a2dp profile. |
| 22:21.21 | Sicelo009N | N900 bluez log incoming :) |
| 22:21.34 | Sicelo009N | got to disconnect DUN first haha |
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| 22:21.42 | luf_ | Have you enabled debug logs also? |
| 22:21.53 | Sicelo009N | ~ping |
| 22:21.57 | infobot | 1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss |
| 22:22.20 | Sicelo009N | i'll enable |
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| 22:26.02 | luf_ | Sicelo009N: What does it mean pc (linux - what version of bluez/win/...)? |
| 22:27.57 | Sicelo | ~ii bluez 4.99-2 amd64 Bluetooth tools and daemons |
| 22:28.33 | Sicelo | ah, incidentally, same version :) |
| 22:28.50 | luf_ | Are you sure you're asking the version on PC? |
| 22:28.58 | Sicelo | amd64 ;) |
| 22:29.14 | luf_ | Hmmmm, it's old one. Whate about kernel on PC? |
| 22:29.36 | Sicelo | 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.73-2+deb7u1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 22:29.42 | Sicelo | debian wheezy .. old stuff |
| 22:30.07 | luf_ | That's different. But I can't believe it's the root cause ... |
| 22:30.53 | Sicelo009N | i think this speaker is part of the problem :) |
| 22:31.02 | Sicelo009N | it's both HFP & A2DP |
| 22:31.14 | Sicelo009N | so prolly N900 chooses HFP only? |
| 22:31.49 | Sicelo009N | because that worked just fine. even pc defaulted to HFP until I switched pulseaudio to A2DP :/ |
| 22:32.23 | luf_ | I don't understand. Are you able to do the same on N900? |
| 22:33.43 | Sicelo009N | HFP= headset (for calls) |
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| 22:34.58 | luf_ | HSP=headset if I remember correctly (I'll check). |
| 22:35.48 | Sicelo | uploading log. just a minute. |
| 22:35.52 | luf_ | HFP=Handsfree |
| 22:36.36 | Sicelo | yep.. that's what N900 sees (and pc defaulted to that) |
| 22:37.08 | Sicelo009N | http://paste.debian.net/366891/ |
| 22:37.41 | Sicelo | media player on N900 just ignored this and played through loudspeaker (which makes sense to me ) |
| 22:37.46 | luf_ | Can you get the debug bluez log also on pc? |
| 22:39.14 | Sicelo009N | ok. give me a bit. how can i see on N900 what pulseaudio sinks are available now? |
| 22:40.07 | luf_ | I forget it :( |
| 22:40.22 | luf_ | BTW Sink is for incoming sound, isn't it? |
| 22:40.29 | luf_ | Source is for outgoing ... |
| 22:41.11 | luf_ | I think Sink is disabled except you enable it explicitly in config (and AFAIK you need also loopback for pulseaudio). |
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| 22:42.20 | Sicelo | hmm, role of sink/source should be changing .. in case of N900->speaker, N900 should be source, and the speaker a sink. i understand sink as the "endpoint" of the audio signal |
| 22:42.38 | Sicelo | anyway, got to see how Network Manager logs on PC. am on Gnome 3 :( |
| 22:43.10 | luf_ | Why NM? I'm interested in bluez log :) |
| 22:44.03 | Sicelo | lol, with Gnome the whole thing is somehow integrated. but checking my syslog now |
| 22:45.44 | Sicelo | don't see how to add verbosity. i'll just test for now with default |
| 22:47.16 | M4rtinK | Sicelo: aren't they just somewhere in Journal ? |
| 22:47.56 | Sicelo009N | how do i read that? :) |
| 22:48.14 | Sicelo009N | no systemd here btw. wheezy was before that |
| 22:49.34 | Sicelo009N | syslog not giving anything useful for now :( |
| 22:50.27 | luf_ | /etc/event.d/bluetoothd ? /etc/init.d/bluetoothd ? |
| 22:50.40 | Sicelo | i'm trying to look there |
| 22:53.19 | Sicelo | luf_: maybe you can see faster than me where to add verbosity: http://paste.debian.net/366895/ |
| 22:53.27 | Sicelo | that's my /etc/init.d/bluetooth |
| 22:54.46 | luf_ | SSD_OPTIONS="--oknodo --quiet --exec $DAEMON" --debug='*'" |
| 22:54.48 | luf_ | I guess |
| 22:55.10 | Sicelo009N | guess i must remove --quiet as well? |
| 22:56.00 | luf_ | BTW let's try MPEG12Sink=1 in /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf |
| 22:56.11 | luf_ | It seems I mixed source and sink :( |
| 22:57.15 | Sicelo009N | okay. debian unhappy with changing that line. bluetooth won't start |
| 22:57.35 | luf_ | I'm not so familiar with debian. |
| 22:59.17 | luf_ | isn't there some /etc/default/bluetoothd or something like that? |
| 22:59.22 | luf_ | (on PC) |
| 23:00.03 | Sicelo | there is. nothing 'fancy' going on there either :( |
| 23:00.26 | luf_ | My mistake. It should be MPEG12Sinks=1 in /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf in N900 (section [A2DP]) |
| 23:00.58 | Sicelo009N | log coming now now. still audio coming out on N900 speakers |
| 23:01.40 | Sicelo | ah, Sinks :) |
| 23:01.48 | luf_ | Is there still "Unable to select SEP" in the log? |
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| 23:04.59 | Sicelo009N | http://paste.debian.net/366898/ |
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| 23:05.52 | luf_ | Is it from N900 with MPEG12Sinks=1 ? |
| 23:06.03 | luf_ | (restarted bluez after the config change?) |
| 23:06.37 | Sicelo | yes. |
| 23:07.53 | Sicelo | only MPEG12Sinks=1 active in [A2DP] section .. should anything else be active? |
| 23:08.04 | Sicelo | [SBCSources]? |
| 23:08.33 | luf_ | MPEG12Sinks=1 is everything what is interesting for this. |
| 23:08.40 | luf_ | I want the log from PC :_ |
| 23:08.42 | luf_ | :) |
| 23:11.47 | Sicelo | hold on :) |
| 23:12.07 | Sicelo | i have two N900 .. but 2nd one has been asking for non-existent pin. |
| 23:12.36 | Sicelo | just tried again now, and A2DP working fine on 2nd N900 (with 4.60 bluez) |
| 23:12.39 | Sicelo | would that help? |
| 23:13.12 | luf_ | case SIGUSR2: __btd_toggle_debug(); |
| 23:14.06 | Sicelo | haha, i'm no dev. what does that mean? |
| 23:14.56 | luf_ | it should be enough on PC: kill -USR2 `pidof bluez` |
| 23:15.11 | luf_ | it's safer to find the pid of bluez manually |
| 23:15.21 | luf_ | I'm not 100% sure with pidof bluez |
| 23:15.36 | luf_ | Also log from 4.60 could be interesting. |
| 23:15.44 | luf_ | I don't understand :( |
| 23:16.12 | luf_ | And feel free to comment/remove MPEG12Sinks from audio.conf |
| 23:21.47 | Sicelo009N | lol, damn gnome :p |
| 23:21.53 | Sicelo009N | logged me out |
| 23:22.03 | Sicelo009N | crash |
| 23:24.32 | luf_ | why? I hope not because of kill command. |
| 23:27.22 | Sicelo | buggy gnome i guess. any easy command line way for me to connect? |
| 23:28.35 | Sicelo | i've tried DAEMON=/usr/sbin/bluetoothd --debug '* in my conf .. that also didn't help. |
| 23:29.14 | luf_ | You can enable debug on running bluez. |
| 23:29.27 | luf_ | find the pid of the bluez (maybe pidof bluez) |
| 23:29.41 | luf_ | and run kill -USR2 <pid of bluez> |
| 23:29.57 | luf_ | This should enable debug while it's already running. |
| 23:30.19 | Sicelo | ah. didn't understand you earlier |
| 23:36.35 | Sicelo | SSD_OPTIONS="--oknodo --verbose --exec $DAEMON" seems to have made some difference :) |
| 23:36.49 | Sicelo | http://paste.debian.net/366900/ |
| 23:37.33 | Sicelo | luf_: ^^ .. but all those lines are there 'before' i connect speaker. on connecting, only the last line is added |
| 23:39.21 | luf_ | It's not debug ... :( |
| 23:39.45 | Sicelo | the kill didn't do anything either |
| 23:39.57 | Sicelo | i'm not sure how to do this |
| 23:40.14 | luf_ | :( |
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| 23:40.27 | Sicelo | let me find command line way to initiate connection. gnome is probably hiding lots of the log |
| 23:40.36 | luf_ | Can you get debug log from N900 with bluez 4.60 ? |
| 23:40.50 | luf_ | There is disconnect in the log ... |
| 23:41.15 | Sicelo | i restarted at that time |
| 23:41.49 | luf_ | But there is no connect ... it seems it was in debug mode before restart. |
| 23:43.22 | luf_ | 4.99-2 in wheezy seems to be different from N900 ... Strange. |
| 23:43.44 | Sicelo009N | okay. my bad. you're right |
| 23:43.45 | luf_ | Ops, my mistake :) |
| 23:44.04 | luf_ | I was looking for file in wrong directory :) |
| 23:44.27 | Sicelo | http://paste.debian.net/366902/ |
| 23:44.44 | Sicelo | if this is not it, then nothing ever will :D |
| 23:45.15 | Sicelo | a lot more is happening on PC log than on N900 |
| 23:45.25 | luf_ | This seems ok. |
| 23:45.36 | luf_ | Weird almost same as N900 :( |
| 23:45.59 | luf_ | It seems I have to prepare more verbose bluez 4.99 for you. |
| 23:46.13 | Sicelo | okay |
| 23:47.30 | luf_ | I have to compare those 2 logs first. |
| 23:47.48 | luf_ | And I'm sorry I'm almost out of time today. |
| 23:48.07 | luf_ | I'll try to reach to you next week (it seems). |
| 23:48.34 | luf_ | Definitely thank you very much for your cooperation and help in catching this bug. |
| 23:51.51 | Sicelo | sure. thanks. i'll return the speaker in the meantime. will get it again when i hear from you |
| 23:52.16 | Sicelo | almost 2AM here too, haha. work at 7:45AM |
| 23:54.30 | luf_ | Damn the logs are completely same. The only difference is Unable to select SEP. |
| 23:55.49 | Sicelo | hmm, i see that part |
| 23:57.08 | Sicelo | luf_: 1st time pc didn't play either, until i manually chose a2dp (in pulseaudio) .. after that, all reconnects result in 'correct' connection. |
| 23:57.21 | Sicelo | could that be where the difference comes from? |
| 23:57.28 | Sicelo | checks what's SEP |
| 23:58.05 | luf_ | I'm not sure. |
| 23:59.05 | luf_ | pc didn't play could be only wrong pulseaudio source ... |
| 23:59.15 | luf_ | And also it works nice with bluez-4.60 .... |