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| 04:34.34 | Maxdamantus | DocScrutinizer05: yes, but does mce also listen for the touch events from Xorg? |
| 04:35.55 | Maxdamantus | I was asking what program actually connect to the X server, asks it to send it all touchscreen events, then somehow cause vibration. |
| 04:36.10 | Maxdamantus | I don't think that's mce. |
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| 04:39.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | kill -sigstop `pidof mce` |
| 04:39.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | -->no more vibra feedback from touchscreen |
| 04:39.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | kill -sigcont `pidof mce` |
| 04:40.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | --> all cued vibra events come out |
| 04:40.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | queued even |
| 04:40.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | so the answer is: yes it's mce that finally causes the touchscreen vibra |
| 04:40.57 | Maxdamantus | Of course, because they go through mce. |
| 04:41.09 | Maxdamantus | I'm not asking that. |
| 04:41.25 | Maxdamantus | If you stop/continue Xorg you'll probably get the same thing.e |
| 04:41.33 | Maxdamantus | So Xorg == mce? |
| 04:41.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | you're interested in more answers? |
| 04:42.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess not, like you always been |
| 04:42.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | fixes his ignore list. wonders what happened to it |
| 04:47.08 | Maxdamantus | mce doesn't initiate the chain of events. Neither does twl*vibra |
| 04:47.09 | Maxdamantus | They're both parts of the chain I'm probably not asking about. |
| 04:47.09 | Maxdamantus | Iiirc, the events go through Xorg, and I'm asking where they go from there. I don't think it's directly to mce. I think another program sends messages to mce. |
| 04:47.12 | Maxdamantus | also, input lag, messages will probably appear all at once. |
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| 05:04.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | lsof |egrep "mce|Xorg" |grep unix|sort -k6 |
| 05:06.09 | Maxdamantus | I think mce does that for screen locking. |
| 05:06.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | nm |
| 05:07.26 | Maxdamantus | I'll look into it in an hour or so. |
| 05:22.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://github.com/community-ssu/mce/blob/master/event-input.h#L37 |
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| 05:32.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://github.com/community-ssu/mce/blob/master/event-input.c#L644 |
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| 05:47.32 | Maxdamantus | wonders if "PatternTouchscreen" in mce.ini is used. |
| 05:47.34 | Maxdamantus | looks like it's not. |
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| 05:48.47 | Maxdamantus | Okay, got it. |
| 05:48.51 | Maxdamantus | It's maemo-xinput-sounds |
| 05:49.17 | Maxdamantus | Just did a grep for PatternTouchscreen across a backup of the root filesystem. |
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| 05:49.58 | Maxdamantus | wonders why they didn't just put it in mce. |
| 05:51.31 | Maxdamantus | DocScrutinizer05: am I still ignored btw? |
| 05:55.44 | Maxdamantus | suspects that's a yes and doc will be searching through mce for eternity looking for the bit where it triggers a vibration in response to the touchscreen. |
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| 06:01.45 | Maxdamantus | ~touchscreen vibration |
| 06:01.45 | infobot | methinks touchscreen vibration is maemo-xinput-sounds |
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| 07:54.37 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: jonwil: any clue who and how uses "sleep_ind" gpio? |
| 07:55.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | err, gpio? hmm |
| 07:55.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | wait, is this in our out? |
| 07:55.24 | freemangordon | yep, 162 |
| 07:55.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | mompls |
| 07:57.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | sleep_ind is an output from SoC to enable blinking kbd backlight |
| 07:58.11 | freemangordon | I know, my question is who uses it |
| 07:58.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | related to a /sys/*/??? I always forget the name of |
| 07:58.42 | freemangordon | however, it is referenced in an .qwk script in getbootstate |
| 07:58.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | in a what? |
| 07:59.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's used in preinit(?) via `echo 0 >/sys/bla/foo/bar` |
| 08:01.02 | freemangordon | /sbin/read_cfg.awk |
| 08:01.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo active > /sys/devices/platform/gpio-switch/sleep_ind/state |
| 08:01.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | (sbin/preinit) |
| 08:02.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | line 331 |
| 08:02.53 | freemangordon | hmm |
| 08:02.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | then a nifty >> awk '/sleep_ind/{ if ($2 == 1) { VALUE="active"; } else { VALUE="inactive"; } print VALUE > "/sys/devices/platform/gpio-switch/sleep_ind/state" }' < /etc/pmconfig << |
| 08:03.59 | freemangordon | yeah |
| 08:04.13 | freemangordon | getbootstate does similar stuff |
| 08:04.15 | freemangordon | got it |
| 08:04.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 08:07.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | frowns at using awk in #1 preinit |
| 08:08.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | I know it's per default just another shade of messybox, but hey.. |
| 08:09.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | feels sort of wrong |
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| 08:19.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | pretty funny read: /sbin/fiasco-do-update |
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| 08:24.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | and /usr/sbin/cmt-factory-reset |
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| 08:44.56 | bencoh | Maxdamantus, DocScrutinizer05: looks like I was referring to "tactile", which is only in extras |
| 08:46.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | hm? |
| 08:46.17 | bencoh | touchscreen feedback / vibration |
| 08:47.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | ohh [2016-01-12 Tue 11:14:12] <bencoh> Maxdamantus: regarding touchscreen vibrating feedback, there is a daemon in a separate package |
| 08:47.13 | bencoh | yeah |
| 08:47.42 | bencoh | but I'm not sure it's what you're looking for since it's in extras-devel |
| 08:48.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not really looking for anything :-) |
| 08:48.20 | bencoh | you or Maxdamantus :) |
| 08:48.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | no idea, never heard of tactile |
| 08:49.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | touchscreen vibra feedback is maemo core |
| 08:49.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe tactile is made to tweak that stuff |
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| 08:51.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | there been an idea a few years(=) ago to not only give vibra feedback for pen-down but also when pen hits borders of widgets like buttons or icons or whatever |
| 08:52.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | a tad useless since you usually don't try to hit buttons with pen-down |
| 08:52.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/with/while/ |
| 08:53.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm >> tactile provides improved tactile feedback with different patterns to improve the user experience on the N900.<< |
| 08:54.03 | bencoh | xes: aren't bfs/bfq useful in case of high cpu load? |
| 08:54.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | brainfuck scheduler? |
| 08:54.30 | bencoh | yeah |
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| 11:02.01 | xes | bencoh: yes high cpu load, high I/O and slow storage devices producing high I/O wait |
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| 11:03.20 | bencoh | ah, cool |
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| 12:04.03 | jonwil | Sounds like it would be useful on a N900 then |
| 12:04.12 | jonwil | which has slow I/O speeds |
| 12:04.15 | jonwil | and slow storage devices |
| 12:04.21 | jonwil | and in some cases high CPU load |
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| 12:56.22 | xes | i'm using a kernel with BFS/BFQ patches into a (slooow) Sony VGN-P11Z and it gives a nice kick to overall system usability |
| 12:56.29 | xes | http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/classes/cs587/data/bfs-v-cfs_groves-knockel-schulte.pdf |
| 12:57.36 | xes | ^^ "Conclusion: The results indicate that CFS outperformed BFS with minimizing turnaround time but that BFS outperformed CFS for minimizing latency. This indicates that BFS is better for interactive tasks that block on I/O or user input and that CFS is better for batch processing that is CPU bound." |
| 13:04.37 | bencoh | now to find cfs patches for 2.6.28 |
| 13:05.07 | bencoh | kolivas's website only has 3.x and 4.x |
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| 13:13.44 | xes | bencoh: those patches are included also into kernel-pwck https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/9948/kernel-pwck-2.6.28.10pwck2.tar.gz |
| 13:14.00 | bencoh | ah, nice |
| 13:22.06 | xes | old CK's patches: http://korg.cs.utah.edu/pub/linux/kernel/people/ck/patches/2.6/ |
| 13:22.27 | xes | and BFQ: http://algo.ing.unimo.it/people/paolo/disk_sched/patches/ |
| 13:25.36 | xes | maybe that with a kernel 2.6.28 these patches were in a early development stage.. |
| 13:40.58 | bencoh | maybe |
| 13:57.22 | bencoh | is there a git repo for kernel-power? |
| 14:04.40 | bencoh | *** Can't find default configuration "arch/arm/configs/rx51_defconfig"! |
| 14:04.59 | bencoh | when building kernel-power (kp53) from source package (apt-get source) in sb... interesting. |
| 14:05.26 | xes | https://vcs.maemo.org/git/?p=kernel-power |
| 14:05.59 | bencoh | ah, tx |
| 14:07.34 | xes | while kernel-cssu is https://github.com/community-ssu/kernel-cssu/ |
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| 17:55.46 | Sicelo | DocScrutinizer05: did that amixer thing for my 'silent earpiece' problem. basically no difference with yours :( |
| 17:57.43 | Sicelo | http://paste.debian.net/365587/ |
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| 18:05.42 | Sicelo | freemangordon: pulseaudio log for same situation .. don't know if it's giving something useful: http://paste.debian.net/365589/ |
| 18:07.46 | Sicelo | i added --log-level info in the startup script for pulseaudio |
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| 18:13.16 | Sicelo | DocScrutinizer05: restarted pulseaudio (after which earpiece works). did amixer -c0 exactly as you did it. no difference in output between the working and non-working states |
| 18:18.05 | Sicelo | freemangordon: in 'working' state: http://paste.debian.net/365590/ |
| 18:18.58 | Sicelo | Jan 13 19:50:20 fremantle pulseaudio[5719]: voice-hw-sink-input.c: 149: 3 frames found from queue (dl buf size 640) |
| 18:19.01 | Sicelo | Jan 13 19:50:20 fremantle pulseaudio[5719]: voice-cmtspeech.c: cmtspeech_dl_buffer_release(0xa2c70) failed return value -32 |
| 18:19.13 | Sicelo | this is what i have in non-working state :/ |
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| 18:27.49 | Sicelo | bencoh: KotCzarny : and other interested parties: http://pavelmachek.livejournal.com/130784.html |
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| 18:30.39 | Sicelo | that's in connection with voice calls on upstream kernel :) |
| 18:33.56 | bencoh | yeah, we saw that already :) |
| 18:34.06 | Sicelo | ah, ok :) |
| 18:34.18 | bencoh | that's still cool tough |
| 18:34.21 | bencoh | though* |
| 18:34.47 | Sicelo | i'm happy. guess now my 2nd N900 will finally have good use ;) |
| 18:35.11 | Sicelo | doesn't help me with my silent earpiece thing though. |
| 18:37.03 | Luke-Jr | Sicelo: vanilla kernel? |
| 18:39.06 | bencoh | article says mainline/4.4-rc8, so.... apparently |
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| 19:17.33 | Sicelo | freemangordon: this is everything relating to pulseaudio in my syslog for 2 days: http://paste.debian.net/365607/ |
| 19:17.56 | Sicelo | the shutdown on the 12th must have been due to empty battery. |
| 19:19.39 | Sicelo | anyway, looks too me i either have fsckd up pulseaudio (which a reinstall didn't fix?) or something's up with some of the modules (voice-cmtspeech and maybe others?) |
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| 19:56.09 | capitanocrunch | hello |
| 19:57.37 | capitanocrunch | does anybody knows what is the /home/user/.ash_history file ? |
| 19:58.24 | capitanocrunch | only bash has history or even ash? |
| 20:03.07 | Sicelo | just `cat` yours for the answer :) |
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| 20:14.22 | capitanocrunch | it has few lines of commands but from 2011 |
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| 20:15.15 | bencoh | have you moved to bash since then? ;) |
| 20:17.06 | capitanocrunch | no |
| 20:19.17 | capitanocrunch | maybe some script created that file time ago :) |
| 20:23.35 | Sicelo009N | you don't use terminal? |
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| 20:24.53 | capitanocrunch | yes |
| 20:25.18 | capitanocrunch | if you type set in xterm |
| 20:25.29 | capitanocrunch | you can see HISTFILE='/home/user/.ash_history' |
| 20:29.52 | capitanocrunch | i rm the file, now has been created again without old commands but with latest commands |
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