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| 00:24.21 | Wizzup | alexey: I see that someone wanted the n900 or n810, feel free to ask said person to send it. As before, I'm happy to pay for post of whatever device(s) you would otherwise just trash, but I want priority. I would probably use it for development, but I have more than one n900 already. |
| 00:24.33 | Wizzup | s/to send it/to pay for post/ |
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| 09:00.45 | alexey | Wizzup: ok, thanks |
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| 09:14.56 | Sicelo | so i've changed pulseaudio logging level to info instead of notice. only higher level is debug, which i will use later if notice doesn't give me useful results |
| 09:17.50 | Sicelo | right away .. no sound off earpiece :( |
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| 09:31.10 | Sicelo | hm, so paste.debian.net seems the 'only' pastebin that supports uploading a file. |
| 09:32.27 | Sicelo | and of course, it's down right now |
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| 09:38.11 | KotCzarny | sicelo: transfer.sh also supports uploading |
| 09:38.15 | Sicelo | http://paste.debian.net/361900/ <-- pulseaudio log durning call |
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| 09:38.46 | Sicelo | thanks KotCzarny. will keep it in mind :) |
| 09:38.48 | KotCzarny | echo 123 | curl --post https://transfer.sh |
| 09:38.50 | KotCzarny | or something |
| 09:39.03 | KotCzarny | or just curl --upload-file somefile https://transfer.sh |
| 09:39.52 | Wizzup | Sicelo: http://sprunge.us/iVMU |
| 09:40.59 | Sicelo | nice. |
| 09:45.37 | Sicelo | not seeing anything 'useful' in that log. seems PA does at least attempt to activate & use earpiece |
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| 09:50.42 | KotCzarny | sicelo, i assume this is the 'failed since the start' log, right? |
| 09:51.07 | KotCzarny | if you restart & log again with working earpiece you may diff them |
| 09:53.03 | Sicelo | weird enugh it works now, without any restart. grrr. i hate this |
| 09:53.13 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 09:53.20 | KotCzarny | maaagic |
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| 12:10.08 | kerio | will the maemo.org web infra switch to letsencrypt certificates when the current startssl ones expire? :3 |
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| 12:23.53 | zGrr | moin :) |
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| 16:22.58 | capitanocrunch | hello |
| 16:24.42 | capitanocrunch | any expert in scratchbox ? |
| 16:28.03 | capitanocrunch | navit team are trying to build navit for maemo via CircleCI |
| 16:30.18 | capitanocrunch | this is the compilation output https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/122 |
| 16:32.05 | capitanocrunch | it shows some error with sbox installation and config |
| 16:38.08 | capitanocrunch | they are stuck. maybe someone knows how to fix it... |
| 16:38.32 | bencoh | hmm, is that supposed to recreate a complete sb env for each build? |
| 16:39.09 | capitanocrunch | it seems so... |
| 16:39.32 | bencoh | cat > /scratchbox/users/ubuntu/home/ubuntu/setup.sh << EOF |
| 16:39.39 | bencoh | + cat |
| 16:39.40 | bencoh | make_navit: line 15: /scratchbox/users/ubuntu/home/ubuntu/setup.sh: No such file or directory |
| 16:39.43 | bencoh | hmm... |
| 16:41.14 | bencoh | I'd suggest they try to install sb on some vanilla debian/ubuntu first |
| 16:41.23 | bencoh | and go from there |
| 16:42.12 | capitanocrunch | yes |
| 16:45.29 | capitanocrunch | btw any suggestions can be given here https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/pull/62#issuecomment-169589078 |
| 16:48.23 | KotCzarny | capitanocrunch: there is sb virtual image |
| 16:48.30 | KotCzarny | with sb and sdk preinstalled |
| 16:52.00 | capitanocrunch | really? nice! |
| 16:52.11 | capitanocrunch | more info? |
| 16:53.10 | KotCzarny | http://maemo.muarf.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads/ |
| 16:53.27 | KotCzarny | file: Maemo_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.7z |
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| 16:54.42 | capitanocrunch | thank you |
| 16:58.11 | bencoh | g/49 |
| 16:58.14 | bencoh | sigh |
| 16:58.17 | bencoh | nevermind |
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| 17:00.59 | bencoh | oh btw, glib on maemo is to old for https://github.com/jgeboski/purple-facebook to build |
| 17:01.24 | bencoh | it needs glib>=2.28, and we're stuck with 2.20 (?), so we miss quite a few things |
| 17:02.06 | bencoh | we also need a newer libjson-glib but I dont think updating this one would be an issue |
| 17:02.40 | Wizzup | bencoh: stuck with => until the open source components rebuilds against the new version |
| 17:02.46 | Wizzup | :) |
| 17:03.16 | bencoh | glib is needed almost everywhere on maemo |
| 17:03.37 | bencoh | especially by closed-source core apps |
| 17:04.00 | bencoh | so unless it's ABI-compatible (hmm) .... |
| 17:04.36 | Wizzup | bencoh: I don't know how many closed vital things there are on maemo still |
| 17:04.41 | bencoh | http://abi-laboratory.pro/tracker/timeline/glib/ |
| 17:04.56 | bencoh | Wizzup: phone stuff, at least |
| 17:04.57 | freemangordon1 | the problem is that newer versions most probably have dependencies which cannot be easily satisfied |
| 17:04.59 | Wizzup | bencoh: I would be surprised if the gnome people can make things abi compatible |
| 17:05.18 | bencoh | freemangordon1: newer versions of glib? I think it should be fine |
| 17:05.30 | bencoh | it might break old gtk which might pull newer stuff, though |
| 17:05.47 | Wizzup | glib dependencies are not that small |
| 17:05.49 | bencoh | err, break old gtk, so we'd need a new one, which would pull newer stuff |
| 17:06.20 | bencoh | Wizzup: glib in itself isnt that bad (dependency-wise). not my favourite lib, but ... |
| 17:06.31 | Wizzup | yeah the gentoo ebuild seems somewhat sane dep wise |
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| 17:07.20 | bencoh | ah, libffi, right. I forgot that one |
| 17:07.27 | bencoh | ffi, pcre, zlib |
| 17:08.05 | Wizzup | I think it has its own pcre |
| 17:08.16 | bencoh | maybe |
| 17:08.20 | Wizzup | how about libiconv? |
| 17:08.28 | bencoh | what about libiconv? |
| 17:08.32 | Wizzup | also a dep. |
| 17:09.41 | bencoh | libiconv isn't shipped as a seperate package in debian derivatives |
| 17:10.14 | bencoh | (nor is libiconv in a seperate lib) |
| 17:12.55 | Wizzup | it is still versioned and a runtime dep |
| 17:13.08 | Wizzup | or do you mean it is not on the system at all? |
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| 17:16.14 | bencoh | Wizzup: nm -D /lib/libc.so.6 |grep -i iconv |
| 17:16.14 | bencoh | 000158c4 T iconv |
| 17:16.14 | bencoh | 00015ab0 T iconv_close |
| 17:16.14 | bencoh | 0001576c T iconv_open |
| 17:17.31 | bencoh | Wizzup: read the description of https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/dev-libs/libiconv |
| 17:18.37 | Wizzup | ack |
| 17:20.08 | freemangordon1 | bencoh: most probably it would require newer glibc ;) |
| 17:20.33 | bencoh | freemangordon1: what, glib? why? |
| 17:20.46 | freemangordon1 | YAY, found the bugger that prevented modem working in 4.4 :D |
| 17:20.51 | bencoh | woohoo |
| 17:21.00 | Wizzup | freemangordon1: wooo!!! |
| 17:21.25 | freemangordon1 | bencoh: for the sake of it. I bat the ^^^ $package doesn't really require features for that glib version it requires |
| 17:21.30 | freemangordon1 | *bet |
| 17:21.54 | Wizzup | freemangordon1: what was the issue? |
| 17:22.12 | freemangordon1 | Wizzup: 7866a621043fbaca3d7389e9b9f69dd1a2e5a855. |
| 17:23.00 | bencoh | freemangordon1: unfortunately it does, at least for some gobject types definition |
| 17:23.06 | bencoh | (G_TYPE_ERROR for instance) |
| 17:23.45 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 17:23.47 | freemangordon1 | you think this is in glib? it is rather in...ummm.what was the package name? glib-error? |
| 17:23.55 | bencoh | gobject I think |
| 17:23.58 | freemangordon1 | and why am I freemangordon1?!? |
| 17:24.13 | freemangordon | karramba! |
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| 17:24.43 | bencoh | anyway, grep -RIn G_TYPE_ERROR /usr/include/ says nothing |
| 17:24.49 | KotCzarny | fmg: you know you can just use /nick ? |
| 17:24.54 | freemangordon | you'd better as google |
| 17:25.00 | freemangordon | *ask |
| 17:25.10 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: no, as this nick is registered |
| 17:25.16 | KotCzarny | fmg: nope |
| 17:25.22 | freemangordon | it is |
| 17:25.25 | KotCzarny | you dont need reconnecting |
| 17:25.32 | bencoh | freemangordon: I did https://developer.gnome.org/gobject/stable/gobject-Boxed-Types.html#G-TYPE-ERROR:CAPS |
| 17:25.37 | freemangordon | I know, but I have to provide password |
| 17:26.06 | bencoh | you can query nickserv |
| 17:26.20 | KotCzarny | anyway, old vs new libs, bencoh, there is an option of static compilation (i know, i know) and LD_LIBRARY_ |
| 17:26.25 | KotCzarny | PATH too) |
| 17:26.30 | freemangordon | yes, but pidgin does all this for me when I reconnect :) |
| 17:26.38 | bencoh | KotCzarny: *meh*, you already know :) |
| 17:27.12 | KotCzarny | also, once i get home i will try updating glib/gtk on my testing device to see what stop working |
| 17:27.12 | bencoh | anyway, I dont even own a fb account, so ... |
| 17:27.15 | freemangordon | anyway, time to spit on the autor of 7866a621043fbaca3d7389e9b9f69dd1a2e5a855 on LKML |
| 17:27.22 | bencoh | :D |
| 17:27.44 | bencoh | add per net_device packet type chains ? |
| 17:28.00 | bencoh | what's wrong with it? |
| 17:28.07 | KotCzarny | The patch was originally written by Eric Biederman for linux-2.6.29. |
| 17:28.08 | KotCzarny | Tested on linux-3.16. |
| 17:28.28 | KotCzarny | bencoh, probably interface change |
| 17:29.06 | freemangordon | bencoh: that http://pastebin.com/F8kN7Q5r |
| 17:29.48 | KotCzarny | Process csd |
| 17:29.55 | bencoh | oops |
| 17:29.56 | freemangordon | yes |
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| 18:16.29 | bencoh | hmm, pali's not there |
| 18:16.36 | bencoh | is that on purpose ? |
| 18:16.37 | bencoh | +# CONFIG_EXT3_FS is not set |
| 18:16.47 | KotCzarny | if ext4 is set then yes |
| 18:16.55 | bencoh | it is ... okay |
| 18:16.56 | freemangordon | :nod: |
| 18:17.02 | bencoh | ext2 is still set though |
| 18:17.12 | KotCzarny | waste of ram |
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| 20:42.56 | Sicelo | my gmail inbox is verrry slow via IMAP. anyone having similar situation? |
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| 20:54.02 | KotCzarny | sicelo, on gsm or wifi? |
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| 21:03.38 | Sicelo | all |
| 21:03.55 | Sicelo | i even tried mutt on the remote server .. same thing |
| 21:04.03 | KotCzarny | big messages? |
| 21:04.20 | Sicelo | no. the delay is in authentication stage. |
| 21:04.35 | Sicelo | just to retrieve headers only |
| 21:04.46 | KotCzarny | so it disconnects after every message? |
| 21:04.54 | Sicelo | no. |
| 21:05.02 | KotCzarny | maybe some settings at gmail.com? |
| 21:05.16 | KotCzarny | does it affect other imap servers ? |
| 21:05.16 | Sicelo | that's why i was wondering if anyone else having problem |
| 21:05.26 | Sicelo | others fast (e.g. yahoo) |
| 21:06.08 | KotCzarny | use some imap client that will allow you to debug the log |
| 21:06.38 | Pali | Sicelo: yes |
| 21:07.11 | Sicelo | i wonder what's the cause. annoying. |
| 21:07.14 | Pali | gmail has trolling... |
| 21:07.15 | Pali | err. throttling :-) |
| 21:07.30 | KotCzarny | pali, in 'headers only' too? |
| 21:07.36 | Sicelo | um .. throttling for? i have very small mails. |
| 21:08.11 | Pali | you need to reduce number of imap commands, otherwise you will be trolled by goodle |
| 21:08.49 | Sicelo | i don't think that's the case with me :/ |
| 21:08.53 | Pali | and also you need to reduce size of downloaded emails |
| 21:09.19 | Sicelo | my N900 fetches mail every 30minutes. i don't get large mail. my inbox right now has only 35 items |
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| 21:09.44 | Sicelo | by the way, via web interface all is normal speed |
| 21:11.33 | freemangordon | Pali: I am getting out of ideas on how to test onenend :( . Do you have spare device? |
| 21:12.05 | freemangordon | Pali: on the other side, I found the commit that broke modem, as you may probably seen on the ML |
| 21:12.47 | Pali | or better, stop using it :-) |
| 21:13.05 | KotCzarny | sicelo, do you have many folders in your imap account? |
| 21:13.18 | Sicelo | nop :) |
| 21:14.38 | Pali | Sicelo: delay after or before sending username+password? |
| 21:14.43 | Sicelo | i guess it's the throttling though . but i wouldn't know why |
| 21:15.10 | Pali | ~ping |
| 21:15.10 | infobot | ~pong |
| 21:15.15 | Pali | WTF?? |
| 21:15.44 | Pali | I got 20 messages from you in 2 seconds |
| 21:16.24 | Sicelo | who? |
| 21:17.08 | Pali | KotCzarny: yes, 'headers only' too. to retrieve headers you use also imap commands :-) |
| 21:17.40 | Pali | messages? from KotCzarny, Sicelo, freemangordon |
| 21:17.49 | KotCzarny | o.O |
| 21:17.54 | KotCzarny | i didnt send anything |
| 21:18.13 | KotCzarny | ahm, irc |
| 21:18.19 | KotCzarny | yeah, lags/splits happen |
| 21:18.34 | KotCzarny | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=508427#c111 |
| 21:18.35 | povbot | 04Bug 508427: was not found. |
| 21:18.36 | KotCzarny | interesting |
| 21:18.48 | KotCzarny | apparently gtk3 is b0rken |
| 21:19.12 | Pali | see: http://pastebin.com/Bbpp21pN (look at 22:14:38 time) |
| 21:21.21 | Pali | Sicelo: does not matter if you have only small emails.. if you call too many imap commands you will be trolled too! |
| 21:21.21 | Pali | if you periodically check for new emails, then you use imap commands for it |
| 21:21.32 | Pali | ~ping |
| 21:21.32 | infobot | 1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss |
| 21:22.03 | Sicelo | weird. this never happened before. started like a week or under |
| 21:22.18 | Sicelo | it's actually 'normal' now. |
| 21:22.25 | KotCzarny | pali is lagged beyond all recognition |
| 21:22.31 | Pali | hm... no pong, looks like irc is broken |
| 21:22.31 | Pali | :-( |
| 21:22.54 | Pali | Sicelo: once you are trolled you need to wait day or two when you will be resetted to normal mode |
| 21:23.43 | Pali | freemangordon: I have spare n900 device, I belive at the weekend I could have time to play with all those new stuff :-) |
| 21:27.22 | Sicelo | https://support.google.com/a/answer/1071518?hl=en .. i'm definitely not within the 'specs' .. i shouldn't be throttled. anyway, fsck google |
| 21:27.54 | KotCzarny | sicelo, maybe you have multiple devices checking the same account? |
| 21:27.58 | Pali | KotCzarny: you sent, see my pastebin |
| 21:28.20 | KotCzarny | pali: you are lagged, try /reconnect |
| 21:28.38 | Sicelo | nope. only Nokia N900. nothing else |
| 21:29.15 | Pali | or firefox is broken |
| 21:29.36 | KotCzarny | - CTCP PING reply from Pali: 468.826691 seconds |
| 21:29.39 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 21:29.51 | Pali | ok, I will try reconnect |
| 21:30.13 | Pali | [22:29:30] * Received CTCP-PING request by KotCzarny!... |
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| 21:36.26 | Sicelo | mutt is nice email client :) |
| 21:36.34 | KotCzarny | yes |
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| 21:46.27 | KotCzarny | i guess pali got ddosed or something |
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| 21:57.47 | Pali | huh, reconnected |
| 21:57.49 | Pali | ~ping |
| 21:57.49 | infobot | 1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss |
| 21:57.59 | Pali | looks like working |
| 21:57.59 | bencoh | pong |
| 21:58.03 | Pali | pong |
| 21:58.06 | bencoh | :) |
| 21:59.31 | Pali | Sicelo: that link is for google customers which pay for their google apps product |
| 21:59.39 | Pali | not for free gmail users |
| 22:00.21 | Pali | IIRC there are no public information how google trolling free users |
| 22:02.22 | freemangordon | Pali: great (re new device) |
| 22:03.16 | bencoh | (throttling* - trolling is something else ;)) |
| 22:03.39 | bencoh | (google is probably full of trolls nonetheless, but still :)) |
| 22:03.42 | Pali | bencoh: in google context it is same |
| 22:03.47 | bencoh | haha :) |
| 22:09.40 | Pali | nice, we have http error code for trolling :-) |
| 22:09.42 | Pali | it is 429 |
| 22:17.35 | bencoh | :) |
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| 22:27.31 | Pali | freemangordon: btw, are you going to add that system_rev = assignment near that save_atags code? |
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| 22:45.11 | freemangordon | Pali: I thought you will add it :) . I want to finish the other things, esp that onenand problem first |
| 22:45.23 | Pali | then ok |
| 22:45.59 | freemangordon | Pali: but if you think you won't have time, I'll take that as well |
| 22:46.34 | freemangordon | ? |
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