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| 09:22.17 | zGrr | moin :) |
| 09:23.00 | Vajb | ciao zGrr |
| 09:23.15 | zGrr | ciao a tutti :) |
| 09:23.30 | Vajb | =) |
| 09:28.08 | KotCzarny | tutti frutti |
| 09:29.28 | kerio | wut |
| 09:30.46 | jonwil | is still no closer to finding a repair shop that can inveatigate/fix his USB port :( |
| 09:39.32 | ceene | jonwil: where do you live? |
| 09:39.39 | jonwil | Australia |
| 09:39.41 | jonwil | Brisbane |
| 09:39.42 | ceene | oh |
| 09:39.46 | ceene | that's a bit far from here |
| 09:40.11 | jonwil | The repair shops I have seen are the sort that can do screen replacements and things but cant do solder work |
| 09:40.26 | jonwil | Still investigating further though, there has to be SOMEWHERE in Brisbane that can do SMT solder work |
| 09:40.32 | ceene | you'd have to search for a real repairment shop |
| 09:40.35 | ceene | some old fashioned one |
| 09:41.16 | ceene | maybe you can go to a technical school, college or university |
| 09:41.21 | ceene | they may do it for you for free |
| 09:41.34 | ceene | that's what i was gonna offer if you were to be from spain or somewhere |
| 09:42.44 | KotCzarny | right, universities and polytechnics always have electronics department |
| 09:43.10 | ceene | if you know someone studying there they may get to help you |
| 09:43.20 | ceene | we've fixed here several things for friends of mine |
| 09:44.02 | jonwil | Unfortunatly I dont know anyone who works/studies at any of those sort of institutions |
| 09:44.25 | KotCzarny | just going there and asking directly might be enough |
| 09:44.34 | KotCzarny | bring gifts, hehe |
| 09:44.37 | ceene | lol |
| 09:44.59 | jonwil | I have family who used to work for a university but they dont work there anymore and also they worked in a totally different department |
| 09:45.00 | ceene | you can talk to some pretty student, you may end up with a partner for life and a fixed n900 |
| 09:45.03 | jonwil | so that doesn't help |
| 09:45.14 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 09:45.39 | ceene | i'd fix it for you here, but i think shipping costs would be worst than buying a new one |
| 09:45.46 | KotCzarny | jonwil, you know, go to uni, ask for electronics/technical department, go there and ask some randoms there directly |
| 09:46.07 | ceene | that may work indeed |
| 09:46.16 | ceene | there's always someone who is eager to fix something |
| 09:46.45 | ceene | being also that the usb fix is pretty quick and easy |
| 09:47.01 | ceene | it's not like you're going to steal 2 hours from anybody |
| 09:48.01 | KotCzarny | also, its all about being convincing |
| 09:48.34 | ceene | and nice and being ready to pay a couple beers |
| 09:49.14 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 09:50.16 | KotCzarny | and another place where you can get info/find someone skilled is electronics shop (but the parts one, not the a-v) |
| 09:50.42 | KotCzarny | the more detailed parts, the better chance there is someone knowledgeable |
| 09:50.53 | KotCzarny | they can even know someone who repairs things |
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| 09:52.35 | Vajb | one can never even imagine what six-pack of beer can buy... |
| 09:52.56 | Vajb | especially if speaking about students |
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| 10:01.07 | Sicelo | (side note: i wonder how easy/difficult it would be to get a reddit client for N900) |
| 10:01.23 | KotCzarny | sicelo, write one? |
| 10:01.34 | KotCzarny | it should be very easy in pygtk |
| 10:02.14 | KotCzarny | also, beware of reddit |
| 10:02.27 | Luke-Jr | ^ +1 |
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| 10:04.42 | Sicelo | what does it do .. |
| 10:04.51 | KotCzarny | eats your life |
| 10:05.36 | KotCzarny | if you have family, work, hobbies, dont get hooked up on reddit |
| 10:05.54 | Sicelo | it's just as bad as IRC then :) |
| 10:06.10 | KotCzarny | yeah, good analogy |
| 10:06.14 | KotCzarny | but its worse than irc |
| 10:06.53 | jonwil | Hmmm, there IS a hackerspace in Brisbane. Maybe that might be a way to find some help... |
| 10:07.37 | jonwil | Hmmm, they have an IRC channel right here on Freenode, lets pop into that channel and see whats up |
| 10:11.08 | Sicelo | :) |
| 10:16.23 | Sicelo | KotCzarny: not going to have those problems. i don't have that kind of time at my disposal. |
| 10:16.46 | KotCzarny | if you say so, he he |
| 10:22.05 | Sicelo | one needs to limit the amount of visible subreddits ... i removed all the default subreddits, and kept only 16, which relate to topics i have interest in |
| 10:22.26 | jonwil | is glad he hasn't been sucked into the maw that is reddit |
| 10:22.45 | jonwil | reads enough web forums and things as it is |
| 10:22.47 | Sicelo | :) |
| 10:38.16 | Sicelo | anyone that uses alarmed? it runs scripts as user or root? |
| 10:39.43 | joga | I use it...can't remember any specifics, been ages since last touched it, it just does some housekeeping for me |
| 10:44.02 | Sicelo | i want to use it more :) |
| 10:44.31 | joga | make it run a script that echoes the user to a file :) |
| 10:49.41 | Sicelo | it's user .. hmm |
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| 11:00.46 | Vajb | i use it to run some scripts |
| 11:01.01 | Vajb | as user that is |
| 11:12.42 | Sicelo | i see now that my command was actually running successfully |
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| 11:22.08 | KotCzarny | sicelo: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/12/reditr-reddit-desktop-app-for-ubuntu-deb-download i wonder what is it based on |
| 11:24.38 | zGrr | o! |
| 11:24.39 | zGrr | nice |
| 11:25.17 | Sicelo | will look. i think i saw that one. there's also rtv .. terminal based |
| 11:27.12 | zGrr | is there an application to manage multiple facebook personalities? |
| 11:28.11 | jonwil | I posted in the forum of the hackerspace I found asking if anyone can help me with my N900 USB repair, hopefully someone there can either help me out (e.g. at their next open meeting) or point me in the direction of someone who can |
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| 11:56.42 | Vajb | zGrr: that is more of a matter of psychiatrist ;) |
| 12:16.38 | zGrr | Vajb: which one? |
| 12:16.39 | zGrr | :) |
| 12:27.22 | Vajb | umm, former |
| 12:27.53 | zGrr | yes, right |
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| 12:37.36 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~botsnack |
| 12:37.36 | infobot | :), DocScrutinizer51 |
| 12:43.33 | jonwil | ~usbfix |
| 12:43.33 | infobot | it has been said that usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1866, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt |
| 12:45.53 | jonwil | Looks like I may have found a hackerspace with people who might be able to help me fix my USB port |
| 12:46.02 | KotCzarny | jonwil, hooray! |
| 12:46.17 | KotCzarny | also, new hackerfriends |
| 12:46.33 | jonwil | They have an "open evening" on Tuesday so I will go there |
| 12:46.55 | KotCzarny | missed by 1 day |
| 12:46.56 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 14:52.03 | klopsi-u3 | cpumem applet showing high/redline cpu use, but 'top' shows nothing using heavy cpu but pulseaudio @ 9.9% |
| 14:54.04 | klopsi-u3 | and kill -9 [pid of oscp] isn't killing the process |
| 14:55.33 | klopsi-u3 | starting an application shows yellow box 'too many applications open' though there's only two terminals |
| 14:57.41 | Sicelo | what makes you suspect oscp? |
| 14:58.08 | klopsi-u3 | it was playing an mp3 and hung |
| 14:58.21 | klopsi-u3 | now process is killed and cpu load normal (low) |
| 14:58.56 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 14:58.59 | klopsi-u3 | and i can start an application again |
| 15:00.40 | KotCzarny | if you happen to make it repeatable, let me know |
| 15:00.58 | klopsi-u3 | ok |
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| 16:36.05 | openbot | 179'th |
| 16:37.10 | KotCzarny | openbot: help |
| 16:37.40 | openbot | Me ? |
| 16:37.59 | KotCzarny | broken bot, no help :P |
| 16:38.13 | openbot | Lol |
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| 16:39.25 | openbot | Yeah some people thought that sometimes i dont know why ? :D |
| 16:41.13 | KotCzarny | me neither, but you should fix yourself :P |
| 16:42.14 | openbot | Thats true :( |
| 16:45.49 | openbot | what is netsplit ? |
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| 16:46.54 | openbot | Some users less ? |
| 16:47.17 | openbot | -''''''''... |
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| 18:35.44 | DocScrutinizer51 | could somebody please paste me wget charge21.sh cmdline? |
| 18:35.59 | KotCzarny | from your host? |
| 18:36.18 | KotCzarny | ~jrtools |
| 18:36.18 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 18:37.09 | KotCzarny | wget http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/charge21_500mA-USBlimit__UNTESTED.sh |
| 18:37.09 | kerio | http://enivax.net/jk/n900/charge21.sh.txt maybe |
| 18:37.16 | DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: ta |
| 18:37.33 | kerio | there's no https for enivax.net :\ |
| 18:41.04 | KotCzarny | http://enivax.net/jk/n900/usb_ok.jpg |
| 18:41.05 | KotCzarny | lol |
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| 19:02.44 | kerio | fucking savage |
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| 21:14.51 | jonwil | hi |
| 21:15.38 | KotCzarny | hello |
| 21:15.49 | freemangordon | jonwil: hi! |
| 21:16.15 | jonwil | Looks like I found a way to fix my N900. |
| 21:16.38 | jonwil | Should mean I dont have to leave the community and stop working on software stuff :) |
| 21:17.25 | freemangordon | jonwil: BTW, if you still wonder what to RE, look at x86 version of fir_eq_.... functions. |
| 21:17.33 | jonwil | ok |
| 21:17.34 | freemangordon | oh, still having that issue? |
| 21:17.40 | freemangordon | (USB port) |
| 21:17.52 | jonwil | yes |
| 21:18.05 | jonwil | I found a local hackerspace that runs an "open evening" on tuesday nights |
| 21:18.10 | jonwil | and they can help me fix it |
| 21:18.36 | freemangordon | BTW, don;t worry, if you can;t find a way to fix it, I am sure the community or neo900 will find a way to send you a new device. If not, I will :) |
| 21:18.55 | jonwil | great |
| 21:19.44 | freemangordon | jonwil: x96 versions have all (or most of) the variable names in DWARF info |
| 21:19.49 | freemangordon | *x86 |
| 21:19.50 | jonwil | neat |
| 21:20.36 | freemangordon | and they seem ~100% same to what we have in fremantle |
| 21:20.58 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 21:23.12 | freemangordon | there *is* some NEON-optimized stuff, but I think it is only one simple for() loop, which I will RE instead of the C code when it comes to it |
| 21:23.53 | jonwil | Will do if I get the chance (busy with other non-N900 stuff right at this minute :) |
| 21:24.05 | freemangordon | oh, no hurry |
| 21:24.21 | jonwil | aep is going to be the hardest part to reverse engineer |
| 21:24.22 | freemangordon | gtg to work as well :) |
| 21:24.30 | freemangordon | yeah, it'll be a nightmare |
| 21:24.43 | freemangordon | eq stuff is easy |
| 21:25.47 | freemangordon | I've almost finished a_equ(), which is used for iir fitering |
| 21:26.23 | freemangordon | seems fremantle version is not NEON-optimized, while Harm is |
| 21:26.53 | freemangordon | anyway, gtg, bye |
| 21:27.02 | jonwil | ok, cya |
| 21:29.32 | KotCzarny | fmg, thats a good and bad news |
| 21:32.46 | jonwil | why is it bad? |
| 21:33.01 | KotCzarny | because xprot probably is not optimized |
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| 21:59.41 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: xprot is 1 - optimized and 2 - unrelated :) |
| 22:00.00 | KotCzarny | so xprot isnt doing eq too? |
| 22:00.13 | KotCzarny | thought it was all in one piece of software |
| 22:00.13 | freemangordon | it is, but using different algo |
| 22:00.25 | freemangordon | no, it is spread all over the place |
| 22:01.03 | KotCzarny | still, making PA not eating cpu would be great |
| 22:01.15 | KotCzarny | (ie. moving algo wholly to dsp) |
| 22:01.21 | DocScrutinizer51 | freemangordon: hi friend! |
| 22:01.37 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer51: hi! what's up? |
| 22:01.51 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: sure, but first - we need the source code |
| 22:01.58 | DocScrutinizer51 | La Gomera :D |
| 22:02.22 | freemangordon | oh |
| 22:02.32 | KotCzarny | fmg, or replacement doing same thing |
| 22:02.39 | DocScrutinizer51 | take a break or take painful breakdown |
| 22:03.27 | DocScrutinizer51 | just playing: GRIP. the stranglers |
| 22:03.29 | freemangordon | seems I am the most stupid of all the species - doc is in Spain, a friend of mine surprised me a couple of hours ago with being in Madrid, it is only me that am abut to start work :) |
| 22:03.47 | freemangordon | *about |
| 22:03.51 | DocScrutinizer51 | (10th time) |
| 22:04.54 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: what is "the same thing"? no audio algo on N9/00 uses DSP afaik |
| 22:05.13 | DocScrutinizer51 | freemangordon: take care of yourself! |
| 22:05.21 | freemangordon | I am trying |
| 22:05.42 | DocScrutinizer51 | (get a) GRIP (on yourself) |
| 22:05.42 | KotCzarny | fmg, i mean, you did the tests to see what's it doing |
| 22:06.02 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: which one, xprot? |
| 22:06.12 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 22:07.40 | DocScrutinizer51 | but the MONEY's no good. just get a grip on yerself! |
| 22:09.15 | DocScrutinizer51 | youtube is ur ftirnd |
| 22:09.29 | DocScrutinizer51 | friend even |
| 22:10.41 | DocScrutinizer51 | good ole 80s 'punk' |
| 22:13.15 | DocScrutinizer51 | ok,'now playing: ugly / Stranglers' |
| 22:13.30 | freemangordon | KotCzarny: https://github.com/community-ssu/pulseaudio-nokia/blob/master/src/test/xprot_test.cpp |
| 22:14.19 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer51: I prefer harder stuff, remember I was in Wacken a couple of months ago |
| 22:16.57 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~botsnack |
| 22:16.57 | infobot | DocScrutinizer51: thanks |
| 22:17.05 | DocScrutinizer51 | freemangordon: could you convince jonwil to accept a package (with N900) sent to him? |
| 22:19.27 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~botsnack |
| 22:19.27 | infobot | DocScrutinizer51: :) |
| 22:23.55 | DocScrutinizer51 | now playing: down in the sewer (7:54! |
| 22:27.02 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer51: I doubt he needs to be convinced now his device has broken USB port :) |
| 22:27.31 | DocScrutinizer51 | hey, Ihope so |
| 22:29.05 | DocScrutinizer51 | "The Stranglers' simply da best |
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| 22:46.30 | jonwil | So yeah hopefully the guys at this hackerspace can fix my N900 :) |
| 22:48.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | jonwil: please ping me with your addr before xmas. (not *51) |
| 22:50.42 | DocScrutinizer51 | mozilla doanted a few N900 which I hand out *only* to known helpful developers |
| 22:51.19 | jonwil | If I can get my own N900 fixed, I dont need one of these Mozilla ones |
| 22:51.31 | KotCzarny | jonwil, take it |
| 22:51.37 | KotCzarny | devel unit comes handy |
| 22:51.39 | kerio | take it boy |
| 22:54.12 | KotCzarny | anyway, sleepy time |
| 22:54.29 | DocScrutinizer51 | jonwil: please accept the acknowledgement of ur status as one of the main devels and the pestering (like shipping a device) that comes with it |
| 22:55.10 | jonwil | Yes, a devel device that I can dogfood stuff on like pulseaudio blobs would be handy to have. Doesn't affect my need to get my current primary every-day-use N900 fixed before I go on holidays on the 20th of December though (since getting any kind of replacement N900 by then isn't going to happen) |
| 22:58.53 | DocScrutinizer51 | good luck |
| 23:01.30 | jonwil | The guys at the hackerspace say they can help me with the USB port repair |
| 23:03.53 | jonwil | they have the gear to do fiddly soldering |
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| 23:04.05 | jonwil | and they have an open meeting on Tuesday that I plan to go do |
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| 23:59.47 | Oksana | :-D |
