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02:10.39Oksanadoes not know how to open a file in TuxPaint. I mean, drawing is nice and jolly, but where in magic is the "open a png" button?
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02:22.47Anaskofind with understanding of -printf : which package? I got cp with understanding of --remove-destination from coreutils-gnu (and yes, I had to modify $PATH to be able to see it)
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04:06.24AnaskoOkay, findutils-gnu it is...
04:38.45DocScrutinizer05~tell Anasko about jrtools
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08:24.57ceeneOksana: what you want to do (to get notes from sound) is an spectogram
08:25.00ceenehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrogram
08:25.07ceeneit's easy to do with matlab, probably octave
08:25.39ceenefor anything different than a solo instrument it'll probably be very complicated and you'll need help from a musician
08:26.47KotCzarnymusician wouldnt need spectrogram anyway
08:26.48KotCzarny:)
08:27.09ceenehttp://www.drawmusic.com/Transcribing-Music/002-Seeing-Features/
08:27.14ceenethat's a cool article too
08:27.57ceeneKotCzarny: probably not, but i guess and spectogram will always be of help
08:41.09KotCzarnyone doesnt have to be a musician to decode fft
08:41.29KotCzarnyrecord instrument playing different notes then compare peaks
08:41.50KotCzarnythen write them and select which one belong to tune and which are just arrangement
08:42.18APicceene: Very cool, yeah
08:42.24APicbookmarks
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08:53.20SiceloOksana: re - portrait wallpapers .. just put device in portrait and change your wallpaper. alternatively, use gconf, but number workspaces from 10
08:53.51Sicelo/apps/osso/hildon-desktop/views/10
08:56.28Siceloenable this feature first via 'gconftool-2 -s /apps/hildon-desktop/portrait_wallpaper -t bool true'
08:57.59Siceloit's documented in https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/FeaturesStable#hildon-desktop
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09:26.28DocScrutinizer05ceene: I think there are several programs that already do this (spectrum analysis, correlate and suppress harmonics, then transcode base frequencies to notes
09:28.00DocScrutinizer05and I think those programs can handle polyphonic music, when they are smart they even can distinguish instruments and separate their notes, by analyzing the harmonics
09:29.01DocScrutinizer05there's one program that even allows correction of a single wrong key on piano in an orchester
09:29.43DocScrutinizer05or alternatively transpose a complete single instrument in a mixed audio signal
09:30.21DocScrutinizer05of course it's a tiny bit on the expensive side, and probably too sophisticated for simple note transscription
09:31.13DocScrutinizer05but it definitely can get done to filter out a particular instrument with each single not it plays, from a complex music audio
09:31.32DocScrutinizer05s/not it/note it/
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09:40.13DocScrutinizer05http://scorecloud.com/
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09:45.22DocScrutinizer05manual transcription helper: http://www.seventhstring.com/xscribe
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09:47.35DocScrutinizer05>>The software employs the most intelligent technology available today to convert up to 16 instruments or notes at a time into multiple staves, with up to four voices per staff.<< http://www.sibelius.com/products/audioscore/ultimate.html
09:51.27DocScrutinizer05Oksana: http://connect.avid.com/AudioScoreUltimate-Demo.html
09:53.27klopsi-u3ty DocScrutinizer05
09:56.55klopsi-u3amazing stuff
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09:58.32DocScrutinizer05((correction of a single wrong key on piano; transpose a complete single instrument)) this is a program that's meant for audio postprocessing in studios and doesn't necessarily handle written notes, it's an extremely smart audio editor, and I for the life of mine can't recall the name
09:58.54DocScrutinizer05just the price which iirc was in the 4 to 5 digits ballpark
10:02.43Sicelothat makes it 6-7 digits for me
10:07.27DocScrutinizer05yet another one: http://www.intelliscore.net/faq.html#Q2
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10:38.36DocScrutinizer05hmm, the editor I meant is *probably* Celemony's "Melodyne editor"
10:39.13DocScrutinizer05"Direct Note Access"
10:43.21DocScrutinizer05cheaper than I thought
10:45.59DocScrutinizer05https://youtu.be/jFCjv4_jqAY?t=111
11:01.33DocScrutinizer05https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiW6XVFeFgo
11:16.21DocScrutinizer05that's really amazing stuff
11:16.40klopsi-u3science, jo!
11:18.35DocScrutinizer05http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Sensation-auf-der-Musikmesse-Wave-Daten-wie-MIDI-veraendern-Update-189909.html
11:18.54DocScrutinizer05didn't look into it since back when in 2008/9
11:20.57klopsi-u3black magic!
11:21.32klopsi-u3it is the future!
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11:27.27DocScrutinizer05DUH!  http://www.celemony.com/de/trial
11:28.23klopsi-u3hy duh?
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11:53.02DocScrutinizer05why? because it sounds like 30 days of extreme fun :-D
11:56.50klopsi-u3duh! usually means you saw or did something stupid
11:56.57klopsi-u3but thanks for the link
11:59.56DocScrutinizer05idly wonders if that thing would work (and how long) in a windows VM of which you do a paused snapshot with the melodyne started, which you use to start up the VM later
12:05.50KotCzarnyif you want to cheat you can simply find a crack
12:05.57KotCzarnyits your morals
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13:25.35ceeneeasier than that, you can just change datetime
13:32.17KotCzarnyceene, its not about subverting the protection, but your morals
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13:42.24keriochange your morals' datetime
13:42.43keriojust don't go too far in the past or slavery becomes ok
13:48.22KotCzarnywhat about the future?
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14:19.44zGrrmoin :)
14:20.46klopsi-u3allo zGrr
14:21.37zGrrehlo klopsi-u3
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15:07.02totalizator(15:47) < JollaHQ> [9b] Limited time #SLUSH15 SPECIAL offer: #Jolla smartphone powered with #SailfishOS 2.0 for €169.00 from our online shop https://t.co/kKO93iLWC4
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15:21.00totalizatorBTW this is what my N900 did the day I bought a new phone :3 http://imgur.com/v6EzmYD
15:21.12keriohe was angry
15:21.18kerioyou betrayed him
15:21.30kerioSHAME
15:22.12totalizatorit definitely has soul, yup
15:22.28klopsi-u3hehe
15:22.55totalizatorit was just a glitch and reboot solved the problem, but still
15:23.09klopsi-u3n900 does all i want except speedy webbrowsing
15:23.36totalizatoraye, the biggest flaw
15:24.42totalizatornot even close to the Android 2.x browsers - I had my fingers crossed for a browser port like this but it never came
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15:25.15totalizatorand it was too much to bare for a daily usage
15:28.47KotCzarnytotalizator: selling that n900?
15:29.17totalizatorfor the n-th time: NEVAH! :3
15:29.22KotCzarny:)
15:31.59totalizatorKotCzarny: plus small reminder : still waiting for a proper source of oscp to be included in Arch AUR etc. - plzzzzz
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15:35.12KotCzarnyon a positive note i've started tidying up build system, so its a step in that direction
15:37.58totalizatoryay
15:38.36totalizatortake your time but definitely release it someday
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15:45.47KotCzarnyon the negative side, user feedback is 0
15:52.37totalizatorno widely available = no feedback, sry - sad but true
15:53.32totalizatorusually people are installing multimedia apps and they expect to get a final product
15:53.53totalizatorit works - cool, if not - delete, move on
15:55.09KotCzarnywell, its quite complete as it is, still, when developing user feedback is useful
15:56.45totalizatorbut you are limited to Maemo "fan base" - so rly, you expect a feedback from ...the dead?
15:57.49KotCzarnyyup
15:57.55totalizatorthink like: 1 of 100 users will give you feedback
16:00.12sachI sold my N900 a year ago. How are things holding up?
16:00.14KotCzarnywell, i've thought n900 community is better than others
16:00.22KotCzarnysach, good, how about you?
16:00.32sachPretty good!
16:03.19totalizatorOT: can I connect usb hub and charge N900 in the same time?
16:04.49KotCzarnyprobably
16:11.08KotCzarnybut i dont know and i haven't tried
16:20.19Sicelototalizator: yes, you can
16:21.59totalizatoroh?
16:22.14totalizatorwithout black magick wizardry?
16:22.46Sicelowhich usb host method you use? if using Pali's, it's automatic
16:24.01totalizatordunno, I've got this applet where I switch the usb mode
16:24.35Sicelothat's Pali's
16:25.45Siceloif you were using h-e-n, it still works, but iirc you would have to turn off vbus. it's been a while since i did it that way, so i might not exactly be correct
16:28.10totalizatorok, then what, is this enough to connect a powered usb hub then?
16:28.26Sicelolol. yes
16:28.39totalizatorhuh, can't be! :3
16:29.33totalizatorthanks, I have to try
16:30.13Sicelothat N900 screen ... looks bad. why not put a screen protector on it?
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16:58.17totalizatorit escalated quickly :3 I meant the protective surface peeling
16:58.40totalizatorso I decided that there is no point
17:00.49KotCzarnythere is point
17:01.18totalizatorprotectirs are overrated
17:01.19KotCzarnyn900's screen gets peeled badly without the protector
17:01.47KotCzarnyalso, protector requires perfectly clean screen when applying
17:01.55totalizatorI don't mind scratches etc. as long as the screen in in one piece
17:03.33KotCzarnymine still looks like new
17:03.51KotCzarnyand for 6 years its my second protector
17:07.42totalizatorlooks like new but you can't touch it - my answer: no
17:08.41totalizatorI would buy tempered glass - yes
17:09.00totalizatoras the feel is same as without it
17:10.25totalizatorbut you need capacitive screen for it
17:11.12totalizatoralso, it's more like creack protection
17:11.42totalizatorBTW N900 digitizer is like $3 :D
17:11.48totalizatorbrand new
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17:32.55KotCzarnytotalizator, sure, but where did you get the idea that i cant touch it?
17:33.08KotCzarnyonce protector is applied you use it the same way as original
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17:33.45totalizatorthe feel and responsiveness is never the same
17:34.07totalizatorI'm telling my preferences, nothing more
17:34.12KotCzarnysame here
17:34.26KotCzarnyi havent noticed screen being different in touch or responsiveness
17:36.40totalizatoralso the scratches on the protector are way more visible which can be annoying
17:37.15totalizatorthere is slight chance that I have factory protector on my N800 :3
17:37.29KotCzarny:)
17:37.41KotCzarnywhat scratches?
17:37.51totalizatorwhen the screen is being turned off you can see every swipe the device had all it's life
17:37.52KotCzarnythere are few kinds of protectors
17:37.58KotCzarnyhard ones, soft ones
17:38.04totalizatorIknowIknow
17:38.29totalizatorand have you seen the tempered glass for mobiles?
17:39.01KotCzarnywell, htc hero had one by default :P
17:39.10KotCzarnydidnt know one can get it for n900
17:39.26totalizatorglass? you can't imo
17:39.58totalizatorbut it's supacool - no bubbles when applying
17:40.04KotCzarny:)
17:40.10totalizatorand you can remove it and apply again
17:40.31KotCzarnyi got ~8 protectors with n800 when i bought it
17:40.40KotCzarnyone of it i've applied to n900
17:40.51KotCzarnythey are cheap
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20:28.27OksanaaMorpher is funny, but its gui currently requires stylus. And I don't see yet any morphing: I have loaded left and right images, what button to press next?
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20:30.52Oksanaahello klopsi-u3
20:31.16Oksanaaprobably, not sure. It mentions creating an animation, too...
20:31.30klopsi-u3right, obviously it would create an animation
20:31.36klopsi-u3maybe a gif or a mpeg
20:32.02klopsi-u3have you tried MyPaint on N900?
20:32.20OksanaaYes :-) Long time ago...
20:32.41klopsi-u3it is amazing what some people can do with it, did you see the pictures in the forum?
20:33.35OksanaaYes :-) Wish more people took part in LookwhatIdrawonmyphone thread...
20:34.03OksanaaCurrent photograph challenge of the month is "Photographer"
20:37.26klopsi-u3ah
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20:49.02Oksanaaspontaneous shutdown of phone... Wish I knew the reason
20:49.39klopsi-u3:/
20:49.51klopsi-u3running cssu
20:49.52klopsi-u3?
20:50.12OksanaaYes, CSSU-Testing-Thumb...
21:07.27klopsi-u3i heard that was instable Oksanaa , but i don't know anything about it
21:08.45Sicelono, it's not
21:09.27SiceloOksanaa: have syslog? might show you what happened just before shutdown
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22:29.11SiceloOMP or stock player do not play some videos which they played well before, but gst-launch plays them :/
23:03.29RothParis.. /:C\
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