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| 07:49.50 | KotCzarny | hmm, jolla tablet for ~260usd |
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| 10:03.02 | jonwil | well, it was a LOT of effort but I finally figured out all the information you need to know in order to rip out the connectivity subsystem and replace it with something new |
| 10:03.04 | jonwil | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1487324#post1487324 |
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| 10:04.47 | jonwil | Packages that would be replaced include the internet settings control panel, the various internet connectivity wizards and dialogs, the WiFi security daemon (eapd), the WiFi daemon (wlancond), ICD2 and all of the ICD2 plugins (including the GPRS plugin) |
| 10:09.33 | jonwil | I just hope someone does something with the info I spent the best part of a week figuring out and dumping |
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| 11:43.43 | KotCzarny | k, subdir oscp |
| 11:43.53 | KotCzarny | to recompile oscp run ./oscp.mm |
| 11:44.11 | KotCzarny | to play with zzlib go into libs/zzlib* and play there |
| 11:44.18 | KotCzarny | damn, wrong window |
| 11:44.20 | ceene | lol |
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| 11:59.08 | jonwil | wonders if anyone cares about replacing icd2 or if all the work I did was a waste of time... |
| 11:59.36 | KotCzarny | it's irc |
| 11:59.45 | KotCzarny | your work is very good |
| 12:00.01 | KotCzarny | its just that fruits of your labour will have yet to ripe |
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| 17:48.17 | Jack64 | KotCzarny: ping |
| 17:48.25 | KotCzarny | pong |
| 17:48.38 | KotCzarny | but im going away for ~1.5h |
| 17:48.41 | KotCzarny | so, be quick |
| 17:48.45 | Jack64 | ok just a quick question |
| 17:48.54 | Jack64 | you know the hildon .desktop files ? |
| 17:49.15 | Jack64 | ie yourapp.desktop |
| 17:49.20 | KotCzarny | very little, just grabbed some ready made one and tweaked for oscp |
| 17:49.57 | KotCzarny | https://wiki.maemo.org/Desktop_file_format |
| 17:50.05 | KotCzarny | should answer all your question |
| 17:50.06 | KotCzarny | s |
| 17:50.18 | KotCzarny | k, im off |
| 17:50.36 | Jack64 | k thanks |
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| 19:40.19 | Sicelo | 'what' is responsible on N900 for detecting connected USB (cable or charger)? |
| 19:42.25 | KotCzarny | there was such question i think |
| 19:42.42 | KotCzarny | i bet its usb controller |
| 19:44.41 | bencoh | for the userland part I'd bet on mce, but ... |
| 19:44.58 | KotCzarny | ke-recv plays the part too |
| 19:45.37 | KotCzarny | ~ke-recv |
| 19:49.28 | Sicelo | looks like i'll just have to reboot .. N900 'thinks' a cable is connected while it is not |
| 19:49.52 | Sicelo | i was hoping there could be something i could load/unload/reset |
| 19:50.31 | Pali | Sicelo: kernel module musb |
| 19:50.52 | Pali | and in userspace low level it is hal |
| 19:50.59 | Pali | and userspace upper level it is ke-recv |
| 19:51.19 | Pali | status menu plugin use ke-recv signals (I think) |
| 19:51.28 | KotCzarny | pali, usb/charging subsystem gets stuck sometimes, and almost everyone experienced stuck orange (my guess) |
| 19:51.46 | Pali | and there is bug in that plugin, sometimes it show charger connected even if is not connected |
| 19:51.57 | Sicelo | in mine not stuck orange, but status-menu .. |
| 19:52.08 | Pali | so same bug... |
| 19:52.13 | KotCzarny | sicelo: try connecting to computer? |
| 19:52.17 | Pali | freemangordon already REed that plugin |
| 19:52.23 | Sicelo | KotCzarny: doesn't help. |
| 19:52.42 | Sicelo | Pali: so any ideas on what i can try? i don't mind restart if really necessary |
| 19:52.50 | Pali | so debugging is now possible |
| 19:52.57 | Pali | source code: https://github.com/community-ssu/hildon-status-bar-usb |
| 19:53.05 | Pali | Sicelo: there is workaround for that bug |
| 19:53.22 | Pali | sending ke-recv signals |
| 19:53.27 | Pali | I have on my n900 commands for it |
| 19:53.30 | Pali | wait |
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| 19:54.07 | Pali | ke-recv-test p |
| 19:54.13 | Pali | ke-recv-test c |
| 19:54.22 | Sicelo | i tried ke-recv-test de before.. let me try those |
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| 19:54.48 | Pali | calling these two commands "fix" usb status plugin for me |
| 19:55.17 | Sicelo | wow. p did it ... i had tried c before |
| 19:55.33 | Sicelo | should have had more faith. thanks :) |
| 19:58.55 | bencoh | Sicelo: oh and, if you think a status-menu is at fault, killing hildon-status-menu usually help (in case you have no other choice) |
| 19:59.02 | bencoh | (at least it saves rebooting) |
| 19:59.16 | bencoh | status-menu plugin* |
| 20:00.19 | KotCzarny | pali, that ke command fixes stuck orange too or only status bar? |
| 20:00.19 | Sicelo | yes, i usually do that. but this one was somewhere in USB thingies ... when connecting wall charger it could only be detected as a cable. now it's detecting properly |
| 20:00.31 | Pali | status bar only |
| 20:00.49 | KotCzarny | got any fix for stuck orange? (restart mce or something?) |
| 20:00.49 | Pali | Sicelo: you need to call both commands |
| 20:00.52 | Pali | p and c |
| 20:01.11 | Pali | ke-recv internal state must be changed, otherwise no signal is sent |
| 20:01.30 | Sicelo | i see. had been calling c last 30 minutes, de, and even ej |
| 20:01.42 | Pali | KotCzarny: you can try to restart mce |
| 20:01.52 | Sicelo | noted for future (because this thing happens a lot for me) |
| 20:01.52 | Pali | stop mce |
| 20:01.57 | Pali | wait some seconds |
| 20:02.00 | Pali | start mce |
| 20:02.36 | KotCzarny | some? 10s? 30s? |
| 20:02.38 | Pali | Sicelo: if you have time, add debug messages to source code, recompile and dump log |
| 20:02.42 | Pali | KotCzarny: max 10s |
| 20:03.14 | freemangordon | Pali: wouldn'r dsme restart mce? |
| 20:03.17 | Pali | stopped mce for a long time could be dangerous |
| 20:03.21 | freemangordon | *wouldn't |
| 20:03.24 | Pali | no |
| 20:03.28 | freemangordon | hmm |
| 20:03.30 | freemangordon | ok |
| 20:04.01 | Pali | it is tricky! |
| 20:04.06 | Pali | calling /sbin/start or /sbin/stop just send signal to upstart |
| 20:04.31 | Pali | so this change internal state of upstart |
| 20:04.38 | Pali | and call additional upstart script |
| 20:04.47 | KotCzarny | k, added to my tips and tricks page |
| 20:04.59 | Pali | and mce script has post-stop command to tell dsme that mce stopped |
| 20:05.08 | freemangordon | Pali: so, dsme doesn't babysit mce? |
| 20:05.28 | Pali | and mce script has also pre-start command which overwrite how daemon is started |
| 20:05.57 | Pali | it transit control from upstart to dsme |
| 20:06.45 | Pali | so this "hack" make sure that upstart is able to start and stop daemon which is handled by dsme |
| 20:07.04 | Pali | (and dsme restart daemon or whole system/phone if daemon dies) |
| 20:07.16 | freemangordon | ok |
| 20:07.20 | Pali | so you must be very very carefull how you kill mce daemon |
| 20:07.58 | bencoh | :) |
| 20:08.15 | bencoh | (learned it the hard way here) |
| 20:08.36 | KotCzarny | what's the worst that could happen |
| 20:08.38 | KotCzarny | a reboot |
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| 20:09.02 | Pali | mce controls lot of parts of system |
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| 20:20.13 | Sicelo009N | believe it or not but only today used 'hover' mode for the first time. i've used the mouse, but not to actually 'hover' |
| 20:21.35 | bencoh | hover mode? |
| 20:28.31 | KotCzarny | pointing without touching screen? |
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| 20:49.11 | jonwil | hi |
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| 21:13.36 | Pali | hi! |
| 21:13.56 | jonwil | is very pleased with the work he did on reverse engineering the connectivity subsystem |
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| 21:20.13 | jonwil | although it doesn't seem like any one else cares... |
| 21:21.35 | Sicelo009N | does, just too dumb to do anything about it. hopefully Pali & freemangordon will help :) |
| 21:31.23 | jonwil | wishes the community had more programmers :( |
| 21:31.55 | jonwil | or more to the point, programmers who are active enough to want to work on stuff like this :) |
| 21:33.56 | freemangordon_ | jonwil: this is not a single man task (conn subsys replacement) |
| 21:36.44 | jonwil | hmmm yeah good point :) |
| 21:37.41 | jonwil | I suspect though you could leverage connman and wpa_supplicant to take care of a chunk of it though |
| 21:37.57 | jonwil | connman already uses wpa_supplicant |
| 21:38.48 | jonwil | suspects one of the hard parts will be writing a GPRS plugin for connman |
| 21:40.25 | jonwil | wonders if there is anything more he can do to make this happen |
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| 21:46.15 | jonwil | Guess I will go back and finish libcodelockui then :) |
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| 22:43.44 | bencoh | jonwil: :-) |
| 22:43.55 | Pali | yes, libcodelockui is also good! |
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