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| 07:01.44 | KotCzarny | sicelo, what were you testing yesterday? |
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| 08:30.23 | Maxdamantus | http://maxdamantus.eu.org/ep1.jpg |
| 08:30.28 | Maxdamantus | Modular earphones, about 40% done. |
| 08:31.00 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 08:32.00 | KotCzarny | frankenphones |
| 08:32.19 | Maxdamantus | That too. |
| 08:33.10 | Maxdamantus | Well, they're already frankenphones. |
| 08:33.38 | KotCzarny | if you think about it frankenstein is also modular, he he |
| 08:33.51 | Maxdamantus | Since the cable has broken lots of times. |
| 08:34.17 | Maxdamantus | The most recent break is just too close to the earpiece to fix properly, so thought I'd do this instead. |
| 08:34.53 | Maxdamantus | (they're over-the-ear ones) |
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| 09:01.53 | vakkov | i am moving to another n900 since my main one is a little bit dead now :D maemo-extras and extra-devel give invalid magic for Packages.gz when apt-get updating :( |
| 09:02.06 | vakkov | me needZ those repos :( |
| 09:02.12 | KotCzarny | ~maemo-repos |
| 09:02.12 | infobot | maemo-repos is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories |
| 09:02.17 | KotCzarny | check your config |
| 09:02.33 | KotCzarny | and maybe clean apt cache |
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| 09:15.02 | vakkov | KotCzarny: that's the link i used to configure them and i cleaned the cache before updating |
| 09:15.22 | KotCzarny | vakkov, what is the exact error message when you do apt-get update ? |
| 09:15.33 | KotCzarny | (pastebin the output) |
| 09:15.34 | vakkov | KotCzarny: btw the mirror of the nokia ones gives some signature errors |
| 09:15.44 | KotCzarny | signature errors are harmless |
| 09:16.08 | KotCzarny | (at least on those mirrors, because obviously mirrors dont have correct nokia keys) |
| 09:19.59 | bencoh | mirros *DO* have correct nokia keys. |
| 09:20.06 | bencoh | that's not related |
| 09:20.14 | bencoh | nokia gpg keys expired years ago |
| 09:20.18 | KotCzarny | ahm |
| 09:21.09 | bencoh | and those errors existed with the original nokia repositories |
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| 09:48.33 | vakkov | now it is only this - Failed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/dists/fremantle/free/binary-armel/Packages.gz Hash Sum mismatch |
| 09:48.41 | vakkov | KotCzarny ^ |
| 09:49.13 | KotCzarny | bad download? |
| 09:49.23 | vakkov | i cleaned twice |
| 09:49.25 | vakkov | :X |
| 09:49.33 | vakkov | W: GPG error: http://repository.maemo.org fremantle Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5D0E7C4F2E6D6F9A lol |
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| 09:52.44 | KotCzarny | sums are there http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/dists/fremantle/Release |
| 09:53.01 | KotCzarny | you can try going to apt cache dir and check o.o |
| 09:53.33 | KotCzarny | and, it happens only on this one repo? |
| 09:58.16 | vakkov | seems so |
| 09:58.45 | KotCzarny | change -devel into testing, update, then change back and update |
| 09:58.56 | KotCzarny | s/testing/-testing/ |
| 10:02.30 | vakkov | the testing repo is fine ;P |
| 10:03.30 | vakkov | still a mismatch |
| 10:03.41 | vakkov | doesnt matter.. updateing to cssu now |
| 10:04.34 | KotCzarny | maybe someone is breaking into maemo :P |
| 10:10.57 | sixwheeledbeast^ | ~listkeys keys |
| 10:12.46 | sixwheeledbeast^ | hash sum mismatch has been around a while, hasn't it? |
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| 10:18.03 | sixwheeledbeast^ | ~extras |
| 10:18.03 | infobot | from memory, extras is http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras |
| 10:18.40 | sixwheeledbeast^ | ~pkg |
| 10:18.41 | infobot | pkg is probably http://maemo.org/packages/ |
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| 11:41.48 | sixwheeledbeast^ | Still having issues with mafw-lastfm. Even purging/reinstalling, as soon as I put username/password in it hogs CPU. Any ideas. |
| 11:49.02 | KotCzarny | urlsnarf or any other http traffic monitor? |
| 11:51.17 | bencoh | sixwheeledbeast^: lsof -p ? |
| 11:51.24 | KotCzarny | strace -p ? |
| 11:51.43 | bencoh | erm yeah, s/lsof/strace/ :) |
| 11:51.57 | KotCzarny | but yeah, lsof can be useful too |
| 12:00.21 | sixwheeledbeast^ | Ok, had to install strace. |
| 12:02.09 | sixwheeledbeast^ | same message repeated, I see both (Timeout) and (Resource temporarily unavailable). I could pastebin |
| 12:02.23 | KotCzarny | please do |
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| 12:06.54 | Oksanaa | tracker-tag segfaults when run with -t aka list all tags of a file (in MyDocs/.sounds ). Why? CSSU-Thumb |
| 12:08.35 | Oksanaa | Same for tracker-info |
| 12:09.07 | Oksanaa | And yes, the files is nice and playable in media player and mediainfo |
| 12:10.08 | sixwheeledbeast^ | http://pastebin.pw/990 |
| 12:11.04 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 12:11.28 | sixwheeledbeast^ | strance repeats over and over, hance CPU hogging |
| 12:11.39 | KotCzarny | that GET is interesting |
| 12:11.39 | sixwheeledbeast^ | s/strance/strace |
| 12:13.11 | KotCzarny | can you repeat with -s 256 ? |
| 12:13.19 | KotCzarny | or 1024 |
| 12:19.42 | KotCzarny | anyway, mafw-scrobbler seems to use api version 1.2.1 which is deprecated |
| 12:19.51 | KotCzarny | so expect it to die sooner or later |
| 12:23.23 | Oksanaa | Anybody else tried to use tracker-utils? 0.6.95-35maemo1 on 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo11+thumb0 |
| 12:23.36 | KotCzarny | i have tracker disabled |
| 12:23.43 | sixwheeledbeast^ | this is mafw-lastfm not mafw-scrobbler they are two separate packages. |
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| 12:24.02 | KotCzarny | swb, anyway, it tries to communicate using 1.2.1 protocol |
| 12:24.28 | KotCzarny | if you use -s 1024 you will see what it tries to post and what it gets in response |
| 12:25.14 | KotCzarny | http://www.last.fm/api/submissions |
| 12:25.18 | Sicelo | Oksanaa: tried other players? non-tracker-based, i mean |
| 12:25.26 | Oksanaa | Or what should I use to change artist+album for tracker+media player? For example, I record Audio with Orecchiette, how do I write down what song and what performers I was recording? |
| 12:25.34 | KotCzarny | here you have protocol description, if you want to debug it yourself |
| 12:26.37 | Oksanaa | What would other non-tracker based players use to identify metadata ? You cannot fit all of it into filepath |
| 12:27.13 | Oksanaa | likes the idea of metadata, just not lack of editors for it |
| 12:27.17 | Sicelo | Oksanaa: use tagging software? tracker is good for reading, not setting tags. |
| 12:27.21 | KotCzarny | type1/genre/artist/album/filename |
| 12:27.31 | KotCzarny | you can fit quite many things in the path |
| 12:27.50 | Sicelo | you can do that like "everyone" seems to do nowadays :/ |
| 12:28.18 | Sicelo | if you insist on tags, at least for MP3 there is mid3v2 available and working on N900 |
| 12:28.42 | Sicelo | never tried with AAC (which I think Orecchiette records) |
| 12:29.05 | KotCzarny | swb: but in your case i think it fails at handshake stage, maybe it was banned for some reason |
| 12:29.41 | sixwheeledbeast^ | hm |
| 12:29.57 | KotCzarny | thats why you should see what it posts and what it gets in response |
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| 12:35.56 | KotCzarny | also, check if your system time is set correctly |
| 12:36.08 | KotCzarny | that could also make the request fail |
| 12:37.52 | sixwheeledbeast^ | KotCzarny: thanks I seem to have fixed it |
| 12:38.01 | KotCzarny | what was the problem? |
| 12:38.18 | sixwheeledbeast^ | KotCzarny: would you believe system time |
| 12:38.27 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 12:38.34 | sixwheeledbeast^ | 2 minute out |
| 12:38.53 | sixwheeledbeast^ | I have no idea why it wasn't on auto |
| 12:40.59 | Oksanaa | mid3v2 ? I cannot seem to find it in repositories |
| 12:41.49 | Sicelo | let me check where i got it .. have had it for a long time now .. or i took it from debian repos ... just python script. hold on |
| 12:42.51 | Oksanaa | dreads python. Is there a non-python version? but can live with python version as long as it works |
| 12:42.55 | Sicelo | Oksanaa: python-mutagen |
| 12:43.11 | KotCzarny | for one-off jobs python is good enough |
| 12:43.17 | KotCzarny | as is any other scripting language |
| 12:43.37 | sixwheeledbeast^ | I still get some errors in strace, but it works, I have scrobbled tracks now :) |
| 12:43.55 | Oksanaa | Well, it's not the first or the last time I want to make audio files have neat metadata... |
| 12:44.48 | KotCzarny | oksanaa: tags are nice when they are 100% correct on 100% of the files. and because of that i prefer just directory/filename organisation |
| 12:45.08 | Sicelo | there was Mussorgsky or some similar name .. maybe it would work for you. i didn't like it |
| 12:45.52 | Oksanaa | Heard of it, did not see it yet. |
| 12:46.13 | KotCzarny | i wrote myself tiny util to quickly set tags based on folder/filename and some user provided input |
| 12:46.35 | KotCzarny | https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/EasyTAG/Screenshots |
| 12:46.43 | KotCzarny | also nice |
| 12:46.49 | KotCzarny | but could be too big for n900 screen |
| 12:48.23 | KotCzarny | http://puddletag.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html |
| 12:48.25 | KotCzarny | another |
| 12:49.37 | Oksanaa | Thank you. Will look up. Oksana: Mussorgsky , EasyTAG, puddletag |
| 12:50.49 | KotCzarny | of all of them only mussorgsky is ported to n900 |
| 12:51.01 | sixwheeledbeast^ | I thought mussorgsky stopped working a while ago |
| 12:51.18 | KotCzarny | how can id3 tagger to stop working? |
| 12:51.39 | sixwheeledbeast^ | I recall having issues, it needed internet connection IIRC |
| 12:51.44 | KotCzarny | o.O |
| 12:51.54 | bencoh | online tags |
| 12:52.00 | sixwheeledbeast^ | for album art I believe |
| 12:52.17 | bencoh | ah |
| 12:56.06 | Oksanaa | exiv2 sounds neat, but not for audio |
| 12:58.00 | Oksanaa | arename is not to my tastes in sense of narrow-mindedness of its purpose |
| 13:00.12 | Sicelo | connect your N900 to computer via mass-storage mode and tag your files there .. may be quickest, painless way :/ |
| 13:00.33 | KotCzarny | or download properly tagged torrents |
| 13:00.34 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 13:00.41 | Sicelo | he's recording |
| 13:00.49 | KotCzarny | she's she |
| 13:01.52 | Oksanaa | Mass storage mode is not an option, yet (and being not skilled at soldering, I do procrastinate with repairing it) |
| 13:02.30 | KotCzarny | oksanaa, install tiny-smb |
| 13:02.35 | KotCzarny | or nfs export it |
| 13:04.57 | Oksanaa | What is tiny-smb? Is it in repositories? |
| 13:05.03 | KotCzarny | should be |
| 13:05.12 | KotCzarny | its tiny smb implementation ~200-300kB |
| 13:05.24 | KotCzarny | so you can export files via network |
| 13:05.41 | KotCzarny | http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/t/tinysmb/ |
| 13:05.45 | KotCzarny | yeah, ported |
| 13:05.59 | KotCzarny | also this one: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/t/tinysmbgui/ |
| 13:06.11 | KotCzarny | makes configuration/starting/stopping easy |
| 13:06.36 | Oksanaa | Okay, tinysmb |
| 13:07.56 | Oksanaa | gui is qt4 /me not like/ but idea of tinysmb sounds nice |
| 13:08.10 | KotCzarny | erm, qt4? i thought its gtk |
| 13:08.49 | Oksanaa | apt-cache depends tinysmbgui |
| 13:09.22 | Oksanaa | libqt4-gui,xml,core,whatever |
| 13:12.09 | KotCzarny | anyway, config is trivial |
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| 13:50.18 | sixwheeledbeast^ | it's very difficult to have not use qt on maemo |
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| 16:41.10 | bencoh | has anyone tried http://browser.sed.hu/blog/20141208/how-build-tygl (opengles webkit port) |
| 16:41.14 | bencoh | ? |
| 16:41.24 | bencoh | (for maemo/n900 I mean) |
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| 17:23.00 | bencoh | hmm, I forgot recent webkit requires c++11 ... |
| 17:28.32 | KotCzarny | 60+ items - GCC 4.7 and later support -std=c++11 and -std=gnu++11 |
| 17:28.48 | KotCzarny | and we have gcc 4.7.2 for scratchbox available |
| 17:28.55 | bencoh | "available" |
| 17:28.59 | KotCzarny | yes, and working |
| 17:29.06 | KotCzarny | at least compiles oscp and libs ok |
| 17:30.45 | bencoh | you build as static |
| 17:31.13 | KotCzarny | libs yes, oscp uses system libs |
| 17:31.18 | bencoh | iirc there is some compat issue with libgcc1-4.2 |
| 17:31.55 | bencoh | so that means I'd to either force users to install libgcc1-4.6, or build as static as well |
| 17:32.17 | bencoh | and I wouldn't be able to upload source package to extras anyway |
| 17:32.24 | KotCzarny | no, 4.6 miscompiles code |
| 17:32.29 | KotCzarny | at least the one in repos |
| 17:32.36 | KotCzarny | 4.7.2 works fine |
| 17:32.37 | bencoh | I didnt say gcc-4.6 |
| 17:32.41 | bencoh | but libgcc-4.6 |
| 17:32.53 | KotCzarny | uhum |
| 17:33.00 | bencoh | oh, and ... I dont really understand why we have gcc-4.6 in extras |
| 17:33.17 | KotCzarny | because someone put it there? |
| 17:33.23 | bencoh | and libgcc1-4.6 in extras, that tries to override system libgcc1-4.2 |
| 17:33.36 | bencoh | sure, but that just sounds .... wrong |
| 17:33.57 | KotCzarny | it shows that voting doesnt prevent bad packages |
| 17:35.19 | KotCzarny | 17-Jun-2012 |
| 17:38.37 | Sicelo | dpkg -l | grep libgcc |
| 17:38.38 | Sicelo | ii libgcc1 1:4.7.2-0+cssu0 GCC support library |
| 17:38.49 | Sicelo | that's only libgcc on my N900 |
| 17:38.56 | KotCzarny | nice |
| 17:39.02 | KotCzarny | which cssu flavour? |
| 17:39.11 | Sicelo | thumb |
| 17:39.47 | KotCzarny | i wonder if it could be installed in scratchbox too (without creating new target) |
| 17:39.50 | bencoh | yeah, but that's -thumb only |
| 17:40.03 | bencoh | (and mandatory because of the thumb fix) |
| 17:40.05 | KotCzarny | thumb is nice |
| 17:40.15 | Sicelo | and my non-thumb one (cssu testing) has 4.2.1 |
| 17:41.13 | bencoh | KotCzarny: I'm not saying that it's not, just that I cant assume everyone has it |
| 17:41.49 | KotCzarny | if you can make it working at least in -thumb, it more than one reason to upgrade to thumb anyway |
| 17:41.50 | Sicelo | i think that 4.2 is pinned? surely 4.6 is not overriding anything .. people who have it likely installed it themselves |
| 17:42.45 | bencoh | Sicelo: hmm ... where? |
| 17:44.00 | bencoh | it doesnt automatically upgrade to libgcc-4.6 because package depends on gcc-4.6-base |
| 17:44.52 | bencoh | (and apt-get upgrade doesn't upgrade packages that depend on not-yet-installed packages) |
| 17:45.11 | KotCzarny | bencoh, compile it for thumb, then test |
| 17:45.29 | KotCzarny | if it works better than anything else you can think about nonthumbers then |
| 17:46.04 | Sicelo | so whoever uploaded 4.6 may have simply harnessed that behaviour of apt :) |
| 17:57.52 | Sicelo | on another note .. for some reason cutetube decides to put arabic hits first when i search :/ |
| 17:58.05 | Sicelo | russian actually |
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