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| 00:54.03 | arteta | hi, I'm trying to run pulseaudio in a chroot env (debian jessie), and⦠I don't know why but it doesn't work. I've "bind" mount /dev/shm /var/lib/dbus /var/run /var/tmp /tmp /home etc, but it doen't work. If I understand correctly pulseaudio is started in system mode by default (cf /etc/default/pulseaudio), what am I missing? |
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| 01:25.44 | zGrr | moin :) |
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| 10:31.23 | arteta | Maxdamantus: no |
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| 10:41.11 | Maxdamantus | arteta: what sort of error do you get from eg, mplayer? |
| 10:46.07 | arteta | Maxdamantus: with mpv : [ao/pulse] init failed: Not supported |
| 10:48.24 | Maxdamantus | Are you sure your mpv installation itself supports pulse output? |
| 10:48.30 | Maxdamantus | has never tried mpv. |
| 10:56.47 | arteta | Maxdamantus: it should :/ but if I try with paplay, it works o_O |
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| 11:09.06 | KotCzarny | aplay probably uses direct alsa |
| 11:10.36 | KotCzarny | but madxamantus might be right |
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| 11:12.30 | Maxdamantus | aplay probably uses the default alsa device, which might route to pulseaudio. |
| 11:12.51 | Maxdamantus | but I think paplay is some other program that starts with pulse. |
| 11:13.02 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 11:16.18 | Maxdamantus | (it'll end up back in alsa sometime anyway) |
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| 11:28.59 | arteta | hmmm, but I still can't make mumble using pavucontrol, and with alsa in mumble the sound works but it's stutter |
| 11:29.13 | arteta | s/pavucontrol/pulseaudio/ |
| 11:29.34 | arteta | (huhu, nice ^^) |
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| 11:29.56 | KotCzarny | also, remember that you risk damaging speakers if you use alsa directly |
| 11:30.05 | arteta | oh |
| 11:31.04 | Maxdamantus | Are you running "mumble" as root? |
| 11:31.13 | arteta | yes |
| 11:33.03 | arteta | (and the jessie's chroot is in armhf, don't know if that's relevant) |
| 11:34.31 | Maxdamantus | O_o |
| 11:34.46 | Maxdamantus | What version of glibc is this "jessie" chroot using? |
| 11:35.43 | KotCzarny | arteta relevant in the way of old n900 kernel |
| 11:36.37 | Maxdamantus | Maybe it's an old version of jessie. |
| 11:37.52 | Maxdamantus | or are you running this stuff on a different kernel? (not alongside a Maemo environment) |
| 11:38.45 | Maxdamantus | needs to sleep. |
| 11:40.28 | bencoh | he said "chroot" |
| 11:40.40 | arteta | Maxdamantus: 2.19-12 |
| 11:40.43 | Maxdamantus | Yes, but that's very vague. |
| 11:41.00 | bencoh | arteta: where does the chroot come from? |
| 11:41.31 | arteta | KotCzarny: I'm using the 2.6.28.10-power53 |
| 11:41.35 | arteta | bencoh: sulu |
| 11:41.52 | arteta | for the jessie's image |
| 11:42.20 | Maxdamantus | Hm. Did Debian add patches to glibc to support old kernels? |
| 11:43.33 | bencoh | I guess sulu did |
| 11:43.53 | Maxdamantus | Ah, maybe. |
| 11:44.02 | bencoh | It's just a dist-upgraded version of my first image, with glibc 2.19-15 and my own bugs fixed (resolv.conf, libc6/libc-bin on hold). If you fixed the bugs yourself there's no reason to switch. |
| 11:44.13 | bencoh | -- sulu, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1464877 |
| 11:45.17 | KotCzarny | even in chroot it still uses glibc |
| 11:45.26 | KotCzarny | drat, lagged |
| 11:46.17 | Maxdamantus | That seems likely, though it doesn't seem to say explicitly. |
| 11:46.41 | Maxdamantus | but it would explain putting libc on hold. |
| 11:46.45 | Maxdamantus | sleeps. |
| 11:46.46 | bencoh | what is "likely"/not explicit? |
| 11:46.50 | arteta | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1446540&postcount=3138 / http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?s=027841bc5c72da3dd94b1e59176a4134&p=1485745&postcount=3219 |
| 11:47.06 | Maxdamantus | He doesn't say that he's modified glibc himself. |
| 11:47.32 | Maxdamantus | a standard glibc 2.19 simply won't work with Linux 2.6.28 |
| 11:47.52 | Maxdamantus | You can't even compile it that way. |
| 11:49.55 | Maxdamantus | oh wait, 2.19 does support it. |
| 11:50.05 | Maxdamantus | it's 2.20 that removes support, nvm. |
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| 11:51.46 | Maxdamantus | Though from the Debian changelog, it looks like they've been requiring 2.6.32 (configure option) since 2.17-0experimental0, dunno. |
| 11:51.49 | Maxdamantus | sleeps. |
| 11:55.33 | totalizator | hyh, I used to have a Mumble bot and forgot about "mumble" word highlight :3 |
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| 13:41.43 | pozitron | Hi all, i would like to compile a recent kernel for the N900 with some patchsets and am curious what is the recommended method of this |
| 13:41.53 | pozitron | I found this script on github https://github.com/dderby/debian900/blob/master/build_kernel.sh |
| 13:42.01 | KotCzarny | um |
| 13:42.07 | KotCzarny | elinks.org/n900 |
| 13:42.11 | KotCzarny | or what was the link |
| 13:42.24 | KotCzarny | http://elinux.org/N900 |
| 13:42.25 | KotCzarny | this |
| 13:43.32 | KotCzarny | unless you want to do what this guys did |
| 13:43.36 | KotCzarny | https://github.com/dderby/debian900/blob/master/README |
| 13:43.40 | KotCzarny | (from your link) |
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| 13:54.36 | jon_y | 4.2 on the n900? |
| 13:54.58 | KotCzarny | sure, unless you need gsm voice |
| 13:55.39 | pozitron | KotCzarny: What is the latest kernel version that supports GSM voice? |
| 13:55.49 | KotCzarny | 3.1x i think |
| 13:56.04 | pozitron | Is this due to the nokie-modem driver not being updated? |
| 13:56.07 | KotCzarny | but i might be making things up |
| 13:56.31 | KotCzarny | i think none other than 2.6.28 works with gsm voice |
| 13:56.54 | KotCzarny | (and not even mainline, only nokia's one) |
| 13:57.23 | KotCzarny | otherwise we would have newer glibs already |
| 14:02.11 | bencoh | I think they had cmtspeech working on recent versions |
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| 14:03.11 | Sicelo | not enough though .. still no "proper" phone calls via another kernel |
| 14:04.58 | pozitron | bencoh: What is cmtspeech? |
| 14:05.23 | bencoh | one of the key component for audio calls |
| 14:06.21 | bencoh | http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/CMT_SPEECH.html |
| 14:06.32 | bencoh | "found in Linux kernels: 4.1â4.2, 4.3-rc+HEAD" |
| 14:06.58 | bencoh | some other things might be broken in 4.x though |
| 14:11.33 | bencoh | I should really get a devel device |
| 14:12.30 | Sicelo | do it on your stock :) |
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| 14:13.26 | Sicelo | N900 is nice in that you have uSD .. very scary trying alternative OS on a device like N9 for example |
| 14:13.50 | bencoh | yeah I could do that |
| 14:14.03 | bencoh | although getting maemo on a uSD sounds like a pain |
| 14:14.16 | Sicelo | ah, you want to run Maemo? |
| 14:14.25 | bencoh | and I'd like to have a phone in a working state as well |
| 14:14.43 | bencoh | for kernel tests, yes |
| 14:15.45 | Sicelo | ok. for me the interest is other OSes |
| 14:16.10 | bencoh | that would be interesting as well :) |
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| 14:24.55 | pozitron | Dual-boot seems interesting: https://wiki.debian.org/MaemoAndSqueeze |
| 14:25.35 | pozitron | Maemo on eMMC |
| 14:53.50 | ozero | is it possible to run debian-only on n900? Wifi/3G only, w/o voice |
| 14:55.07 | Sicelo | yes |
| 14:55.20 | Sicelo | since almost day one |
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| 15:58.40 | arteta | 3G/wifi work correctly? with debian jessie? |
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| 16:59.32 | Sicelo | arteta: should. i had used wheezy, and that was fine |
| 17:00.43 | KotCzarny | hmm, amazingly, library that was working good some time ago, doesnt work anymore |
| 17:00.45 | KotCzarny | o.o |
| 17:00.59 | KotCzarny | (same library, just different compiling machine) |
| 17:01.17 | arteta | Sicelo: thx I'll try, maybe mumble will works better with it |
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| 20:11.35 | bencoh | I really hate gitorious for the way they're handling the "archive.org migration" |
| 20:11.42 | bencoh | repos have been offline for ages |
| 20:12.05 | bencoh | does anyone have a copy of gst-plugin-bc? |
| 20:16.22 | bencoh | nevermind, looks like there is a copy there http://dev.omapzoom.org/?p=gstreamer/gst-plugin-bc.git |
| 20:29.16 | Pali | whatt is bc? |
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| 20:38.24 | bencoh | Pali: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/OpenGLES_Texture_Streaming_-_bc-cat_User_Guide |
| 20:38.30 | bencoh | a texture streaming driver |
| 20:39.27 | bencoh | (MAFW uses XV to display video instead) |
| 20:39.49 | Pali | it is compatible with n900? |
| 20:41.05 | bencoh | dunno |
| 20:41.53 | bencoh | I'm trying to draw buttons over a gstreamer xoverlay area (in gtk) and eventually found http://maemo.org/news/planet-maemo/painting_video_with_gstreamer_and_qt-qml_or_gtk-with_overlay/ |
| 20:42.21 | bencoh | and eventualy started looking for texture streaming |
| 20:43.13 | bencoh | I dont understand how the colorkey "hack" is supposed to work ... looks like mafw-gst-renderer does something similar but ... |
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| 21:38.24 | arteta | hmm, I've followed https://github.com/dderby/debian900/blob/master/README, install u-boot-tools and make a ./configure_u-boot.sh on the n900 then reboot the n900 but I haven't any boot option and didn't boot on the sd card, did I miss something? |
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| 21:54.12 | freemangordon | bencoh: bc_cat needs a kernel module. and yes, it is compatible with n900, it is capable of streaming from main camera to a spinning cube (all sides show the video) with 40 fps |
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