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| 05:04.00 | Oksana | ~help |
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| 05:30.58 | ebzzry | Why does Maemo 5 asks me to input a code, for Secure Device, when I have already changed the code in Settings > Device lock |
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| 05:33.17 | ebzzry | It is asking for the same code, or a new code? |
| 05:34.35 | KotCzarny | during changing or after screen lock/boot ? |
| 05:38.26 | Oksana | You click Secure Device. Hence, you will need to input the code to get back in. Hence, it's asking you to input the code. |
| 05:39.01 | Oksana | Device is already 'secured'. It's asking for the code to 'unsecure' the device |
| 05:39.24 | Oksana | Same code, yes, afaik |
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| 06:22.42 | ebzzry | If it is the same code, why does it asks me to input a code to lock the device? |
| 06:22.57 | ebzzry | Shouldn't it just lock the device, since I have already configured the lock code? |
| 06:23.11 | KotCzarny | in settings you are creating new code |
| 06:23.41 | KotCzarny | use powermenu to lock, or set to lock everytime when you 'lock the screen and keys' |
| 06:26.28 | Oksana | It just locks _and_ asks you if you want to input a code and unlock. Theoretically, it should offer you an option to call 911-000-emergency-numbers without inputting the code |
| 06:29.24 | Sicelo | < ebzzry> If it is the same code, why does it asks me to input a code to lock the device? |
| 06:29.44 | Sicelo | to prevent you from locking it and then being unable to unlock |
| 06:32.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | hihi. do you need a key to lock the door, or only to unlock it |
| 06:33.06 | Sicelo | :) |
| 06:33.13 | KotCzarny | depends on the door |
| 06:33.18 | KotCzarny | some lock automatically |
| 06:34.05 | KotCzarny | especially popular in usa |
| 06:34.11 | Sicelo | and we all know they are are pain those doors .. |
| 06:34.31 | KotCzarny | some cars also have such 'feature' |
| 06:34.33 | Sicelo | locked m car key in the boot last night |
| 06:34.38 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 06:34.48 | Sicelo | luckily, spare key was within 10 minutes walk |
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| 06:41.34 | Oksana | Nnniice... |
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| 07:16.57 | Maxdamantus | So a thief would only have had to walk ten minutes to steal your car. |
| 07:17.12 | Maxdamantus | or twenty, maybe. |
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| 07:20.24 | Oksana | Well, it was probably inside a house, or something |
| 07:21.28 | Vajb | maybe it was more like geocaching thing |
| 07:21.35 | Maxdamantus | So you're relying on a master key? That's insecure. |
| 07:22.03 | Maxdamantus | or are you getting into the house using a key hidden somewhere on the property? That's security through obscurity, which is also insecure. |
| 07:22.12 | Vajb | so for ultimate security change different locks for all locks in one car |
| 07:22.44 | KotCzarny | or add secret tap module |
| 07:22.58 | Vajb | or numpad |
| 07:23.07 | KotCzarny | retina scanner |
| 07:23.20 | Vajb | + fingerprint |
| 07:23.32 | KotCzarny | fingerprint will be problematic in winter |
| 07:24.06 | Vajb | one can always take the gloves off =) |
| 07:24.17 | KotCzarny | suuuuure, ever experienced -20C ? |
| 07:24.19 | Maxdamantus | The gloves are off. |
| 07:24.39 | Vajb | is from finland |
| 07:24.41 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 07:24.52 | Vajb | ask another question maybe? |
| 07:24.55 | Vajb | :) |
| 07:25.14 | Maxdamantus | Miksi saa haluat suomesta? |
| 07:25.21 | Vajb | lol |
| 07:25.55 | Vajb | why i want from finland? Hmm that's though one. |
| 07:26.29 | Vajb | or actually saa is short from saada which is to get |
| 07:26.33 | KotCzarny | gtranslated conversation? :) |
| 07:26.35 | Maxdamantus | sa* |
| 07:26.57 | KotCzarny | Why do you want in from Finland ? |
| 07:27.03 | KotCzarny | (gtranslated) |
| 07:27.22 | Vajb | -in |
| 07:27.37 | Maxdamantus | er, sä |
| 07:27.39 | Vajb | litelary |
| 07:28.05 | KotCzarny | http://www.pdftoepub.com/authorspromotion.asp |
| 07:28.09 | KotCzarny | free promo for converter |
| 07:28.20 | Maxdamantus | maybe it should be something more like "miksi sä haluat olla suomesta?" |
| 07:28.26 | Maxdamantus | dunno. |
| 07:28.43 | Maxdamantus | should try to learn it better. |
| 07:28.51 | Vajb | then it asks "why do you want to be from finland" |
| 07:29.01 | Maxdamantus | Yes, that's what I meant. |
| 07:29.09 | Vajb | well they didn't let me choose |
| 07:29.13 | Maxdamantus | actually, I think I meant haluaisit |
| 07:30.00 | Vajb | ah yes. Well it wasn't wish, but actual fact. |
| 07:30.40 | Vajb | and sä is more like slang word of sinä |
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| 14:03.05 | drawkula | ok... need to go rl... |
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| 14:55.50 | bencoh | drawkula: techstaff at maemo.org |
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| 19:52.52 | Sicelo | so how does Maxdamantus' car lock work? :/ sounds like he's got some elaborate vehicle |
| 19:57.59 | KotCzarny | sicelo, many cars you can open via button press, ie. you need something from trunk, then they relock automatically (if driver or passenger door wasnt opened in the meantime) |
| 19:59.10 | KotCzarny | my gf's skoda fabia from 2004 has such logic |
| 19:59.24 | KotCzarny | dont know if it changed for better or worse with newer cars |
| 20:01.41 | Sicelo | and if your key is in the trunk when said timer elapses? |
| 20:03.12 | KotCzarny | then you have to find spare keys |
| 20:03.23 | KotCzarny | if you are lucky you have few minutes of walk |
| 20:03.52 | Sicelo | it was sounding like someone has better lock system |
| 20:04.39 | KotCzarny | but if you open the door in the meantime timer is disabled |
| 20:05.00 | KotCzarny | so i guess it was meant for such 'i just need something from the trunk' |
| 20:05.15 | KotCzarny | or for accidental unlocks |
| 20:05.36 | KotCzarny | ie. if you unlock but dont open anything then it will relock in few minutes |
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| 20:07.29 | Sicelo | is tired .. & takes himself to bed. |
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| 20:35.20 | Sicelo | apt-get remove --purge bnf. :-[ |
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| 22:53.25 | bencoh | hmm I wonder why some apt-http clients try fetching Packages.diff/index from nokia repositories while others dont |
| 22:53.44 | bencoh | (with the same advertised apt/maemo version) |
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