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| 02:57.43 | ebzzry | What is the best epub reader on the N900 now? |
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| 14:20.16 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
| 14:20.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wb |
| 14:20.23 | infobot | It's great to be back! |
| 14:21.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~repos |
| 14:21.01 | infobot | methinks repos is "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./", or see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories |
| 14:21.53 | leijjuva | muarf.org seems to be down also |
| 14:23.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, not responsive at least |
| 14:24.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | http:// maemo.linenoise.info/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ seems to work |
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| 22:01.22 | esaym153 | can I not use opengl at all on n810? https://wiki.maemo.org/MBX_drivers_status says need driver |
| 22:01.51 | esaym153 | but specs say it can do 2mil polys a second: http://www.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?contentId=4671&navigationId=11990&templateId=6123 ? |
| 22:29.04 | ShadowJK | Basically there's no usable drivers |
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| 22:46.31 | ds3 | is there a good short explanation on why the N900 3G is 1700/2100 combo? |
| 22:46.49 | KotCzarny | depends where you bought it probably |
| 22:48.18 | KotCzarny | wikipedia says: GSM 850/900/1800/1900 |
| 22:48.24 | KotCzarny | ahm |
| 22:48.25 | KotCzarny | umts |
| 22:49.10 | ds3 | yes, the "3G" UMTS stuff from Tmobile |
| 22:49.17 | ds3 | this is a US Market thing |
| 22:49.34 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 22:49.45 | KotCzarny | 900/2100 used here |
| 22:49.50 | ecc3g | except Tmobile never really offered the N900 in the US...? |
| 22:50.09 | ds3 | what does the 900/2100 mean? does UMTS require 2 bands to work or? |
| 22:50.21 | KotCzarny | there is also 1700 for japan |
| 22:50.25 | ds3 | ecc3g: it was an unlocked user supplied device. |
| 22:50.36 | KotCzarny | ds3: nope, different providers use different bands |
| 22:50.50 | ds3 | Tmobile killed 1700/2100 in the SFBay area this weekend |
| 22:51.12 | ds3 | but I can get a Tmobile signal (apparently) at 1900 |
| 22:51.33 | ds3 | so I am a bit confused as to why that signal is 1 band vs the other having 2 bands |
| 22:52.35 | ds3 | KotCzarny: yes, I know that. just donno why it is called out as a dual band thing |
| 22:52.55 | ecc3g | I was never able to get 3G in palo alto. that was annoying. |
| 22:53.00 | KotCzarny | i mean, some use 900 band, some 2100 |
| 22:53.29 | ds3 | ecc3g: close to 101 or close to 280? |
| 22:53.38 | ecc3g | 101 |
| 22:53.50 | ds3 | KotCzarny: everything I can find seems to call out 2 numbers at once |
| 22:54.13 | ds3 | ecc3g: I get weak 3G all along 101 from Snv to PA |
| 22:54.28 | ds3 | <--- not happy, stuck with a Galaxy Nexus |
| 22:54.32 | ecc3g | actually ECR |
| 22:54.40 | ds3 | ECR? |
| 22:54.47 | ecc3g | El Camino |
| 22:55.10 | ecc3g | I remember Frys in Palo Alto I got no signal with the n900 |
| 22:55.12 | ecc3g | no 3g |
| 22:55.22 | ecc3g | weak 3g in belmont |
| 22:55.41 | ecc3g | works perfectly in CO |
| 22:55.54 | ecc3g | (whole 'nother state) |
| 22:56.03 | ds3 | Frys in PA is a dead spot for me |
| 22:56.16 | ds3 | no 3 or 2G |
| 22:56.24 | ecc3g | even outside near el camino is bad |
| 22:56.41 | ecc3g | i guess it's all moot if they cancelled 1700/2100 |
| 22:56.49 | ecc3g | i hate my android phone |
| 22:56.53 | ds3 | *nod* |
| 22:57.02 | ds3 | which android phone are you falling back to? |
| 22:57.09 | ecc3g | zenfone2 |
| 22:57.35 | KotCzarny | use droid as wifispot? |
| 22:58.00 | ecc3g | I've been trying to carry 2 phones, I dont like it... |
| 22:58.28 | KotCzarny | put it in the backpack? |
| 22:58.40 | ecc3g | I don't have a backpack... |
| 22:58.48 | KotCzarny | buy one? |
| 22:59.12 | ecc3g | One backpack for just a phone... yeah... |
| 22:59.26 | KotCzarny | not just for a phone |
| 22:59.42 | KotCzarny | backpack i one of the best inventions |
| 22:59.55 | ecc3g | I don't have anything else I need to carry... |
| 23:00.14 | KotCzarny | food? |
| 23:00.18 | KotCzarny | drink? |
| 23:00.28 | ecc3g | ... |
| 23:00.54 | KotCzarny | car battery for emergency power? |
| 23:01.13 | KotCzarny | those 95Ah babies give a long uptime |
| 23:01.50 | ds3 | not for the Android crap |
| 23:02.06 | ds3 | it is design to unpredictably drain the battery flat |
| 23:03.48 | ecc3g | I guess I don't use my phone a huge amount, it's usually on standby |
| 23:03.59 | ecc3g | and my android phone seems to have better standby time now... |
| 23:05.08 | ds3 | beware of the android equiv of tracker |
| 23:05.24 | ds3 | biggest peice of garbage designed in to android |
| 23:05.28 | ecc3g | beware of android in general... :( |
| 23:05.32 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 23:06.05 | ds3 | Android has negative credibility |
| 23:06.31 | ds3 | but radiowise, Android seems to be the only option |
| 23:07.04 | KotCzarny | no one else doing gsm there? |
| 23:07.12 | ecc3g | for bay area... seems so. |
| 23:07.16 | ds3 | GSM/EDGE works |
| 23:07.25 | ds3 | but there is a need for data |
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| 23:07.53 | ds3 | for tethered operation, I much rather revive the N800 |
| 23:09.40 | Wizzup | but ... the n800 doesn't have a modem |
| 23:09.46 | Wizzup | or does it? |
| 23:09.54 | KotCzarny | only wifi |
| 23:09.57 | Wizzup | yeah. |
| 23:09.59 | KotCzarny | and usb host mode |
| 23:10.01 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 23:10.09 | KotCzarny | but that one needs car battery |
| 23:10.40 | ds3 | but if you are tethering, it don't matter |
| 23:12.20 | esaym153 | ShadowJK: well yes, there are not usable drivers for the n810, but what does that mean for an app that uses opengl? |
| 23:13.01 | esaym153 | ShadowJK: basically I am in the middle of learning SDL and opengl to make some simple games on the n810, but if I can't use opengl at all, then I just need to focus on learning SDL only |
| 23:13.23 | KotCzarny | or finding cheap working n900 |
| 23:13.31 | esaym153 | I don't really get what happens when your graphics chip doesn't support 2d or 3d accel and you send opengl data to it.... |
| 23:13.53 | KotCzarny | esaym153: in linux you usually end up with software rendering |
| 23:14.05 | esaym153 | KotCzarny: automaticly? |
| 23:14.18 | KotCzarny | if mesa is installed |
| 23:14.23 | esaym153 | hmm |
| 23:17.43 | KotCzarny | http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/diablo/free/m/mesa/ |
| 23:17.47 | KotCzarny | someone compiled it |
| 23:17.56 | KotCzarny | dont know how well it works |
| 23:18.27 | esaym153 | if n810 can't even do 2d accel then that is stupid.... |
| 23:18.42 | KotCzarny | for simple programs its enough i guess |
| 23:18.59 | KotCzarny | install and check mesa demos |
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