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| 02:21.56 | Maxdamantus | Downloaded: 280 files, 18G in 9h 19m 57s (563 KB/s) |
| 02:23.49 | stryngs | Maxdamantus: 1994 called; it wants it's dialup back |
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| 05:28.49 | KotCzarny | stryngs: not everyone is a bit leecher |
| 05:29.01 | KotCzarny | 5mbit isnt bat for everyday use |
| 05:33.37 | Maxdamantus | My connection is about three times that. |
| 05:35.09 | KotCzarny | still. |
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| 07:11.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | "3 times2 is an irrelevant improvement in IT |
| 07:11.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | "3 times" |
| 07:11.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | "10 times" is significant |
| 07:11.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 07:12.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, just kidding. Actually anything smaller "2 times" is considered irrelevant |
| 07:12.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | 3 times is rather noticeable |
| 07:13.03 | bencoh | unfortunately last mile / home uplinks dont follow moor's law |
| 07:13.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | no matter if link bandwitch, or storage, memory, CPU speed... |
| 07:13.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | bandwidth* |
| 07:13.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | bencoh: yeah, they stopped to do that |
| 07:14.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | for a few years they were even way better |
| 07:16.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually my 16/1 is usually OK for down. what frequently sucks is uplink bandwidth |
| 07:16.16 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 07:16.19 | KotCzarny | i have 5/5 |
| 07:16.39 | KotCzarny | the lowest from this isp |
| 07:16.55 | KotCzarny | but yeah, uplink matters more than downlink for me |
| 07:28.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually there are two classes of metrics: when your video stream needs 8.2Mbit but you have only 8; when your program needs 50 bytes more RAM than you got; when you have a shootout in Tinseltown and the deputy has a internet link 10ms faster than yours - those are the "does it suffice?" cases (maemo 256MB RAM is one of those). For the generics "this machine feels so much faster than that machine" case otoh nothing matters that's smaller |
| 07:28.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | than a full two-times improvement |
| 07:29.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | for the first class overclocking might be a valid solution |
| 07:30.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | (not for maemo since RAM is the bottleneck) |
| 07:30.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless we talk 768p here |
| 07:30.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | or other highres video formats |
| 07:30.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | for which overclocking is almost mandatory |
| 07:40.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | just had a "patent" idea for handling inbound calls on devices with scarce resources that need time to establish: do NOT try to establish a full duplex voice connection immediately - rather playback a calling tone to the remote caller and the called party simply switches off that tone generator when all resources for a decent stutter-free full duplex audio are established |
| 07:42.51 | KotCzarny | wow |
| 07:42.57 | KotCzarny | k-lines |
| 07:45.30 | bencoh | on a developer .... wtf |
| 07:46.01 | KotCzarny | maybe some iprange splash damage |
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| 07:57.15 | kerio | yea we had like a hundred spam accounts in #znc |
| 07:57.23 | kerio | there was some mass K-lining |
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| 08:22.39 | buZz | 09:45:30 < bencoh> on a developer .... wtf |
| 08:22.40 | buZz | no |
| 08:22.43 | buZz | on irccloud.com |
| 08:22.47 | buZz | that shitfest |
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| 08:30.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | <nchambers> it should be reversed now |
| 08:31.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | <nchambers> ariqs: accidental kline of irc clound |
| 08:31.47 | Wizzup | ircclown* |
| 08:32.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | <marienz> jwheare: I haven't fully caught up to what happened here (I dropped by shortly after the kline happened) |
| 08:33.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | <Ilyas> admit it, someone took their cat to work no? |
| 08:34.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | <jwheare> and as always, if there are abuse issues that we can address, please contact abuse@irccloud.com |
| 08:35.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | <marienz> jwheare: yeah, we tend to forget just how large your service is until something like this happens... |
| 08:36.17 | buZz | :D |
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| 09:04.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | during last 12 months there were actually three where adobe had only one security update. Instead the usual 2 or more |
| 09:05.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I guess all were considered critical |
| 09:05.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ adobe flash |
| 09:07.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | what a crap |
| 09:12.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | 23/113 Technical Warnings are for Adobe. This is for _all_ technical warnings regarding all relevant OS for end users, during 2014 http://wstaw.org/m/2015/09/22/plasma-desktopjq1947.png |
| 09:14.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | I.E. the rest is for Mac, windows, linux, all other apps... |
| 09:15.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | firefox: 11 |
| 09:16.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | and not all of them were security updates |
| 09:25.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2015/09/22/plasma-desktopPw1947.png |
| 09:26.59 | Vajb | well, if they made flawless apps coders would be jobless ;) |
| 09:27.33 | Maxdamantus | Maybe they'd be doing something more productive. |
| 09:28.07 | Vajb | it is like coders "lightbulb conspiracy" |
| 09:30.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | never attribute to malice what could as well get explained by mere incompetence |
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| 09:50.51 | KotCzarny | true that |
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| 09:51.57 | Maxdamantus | Excuses. |
| 09:52.30 | Maxdamantus | Coders are money-grubbing time wasters. |
| 09:53.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's true in either case ;-D |
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| 10:30.31 | zGrr | moin :) |
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| 11:03.26 | kerio | timeless is back! |
| 11:03.44 | timeless | yeah, um, irccloud got klined |
| 11:03.50 | timeless | what's up? |
| 11:04.06 | timeless | good morning, happy new year |
| 11:04.57 | timeless | and g'mar chatimah tova + Tzom Kal |
| 11:09.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | timeless: hi! long time no see |
| 11:10.12 | timeless | hi |
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| 11:11.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | (irccloud) yeah some freenode operator used *the big hammer[TM]* to fix an issue with some spammers |
| 11:12.23 | tm | yes! I'm a big hammer! |
| 11:13.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | they used you to k-line irccloud? ;-) |
| 11:15.29 | tm | lol |
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| 11:35.29 | timeless | heh |
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| 16:32.16 | KotCzarny | hum, patient: n900 with broken screen and modem, on tv-out i see only yellow bar (but it disappears when device gets locked via switch, and appears when unlocked, so it boots to os). what could be the cause? i've noticed it on two different tvs (both lcd tho) |
| 16:33.58 | esaym153 | I need to get more space on root. What is the best way to get rid of any dependencies that were installed and not removed when the parent package was removed? |
| 16:34.40 | esaym153 | because I know I have installed several things with apt-get which pulled down other needed packages, and when I uninstalled the other package, it left the dependencies |
| 16:34.52 | esaym153 | deborphan doesn't seem to exist |
| 16:34.55 | KotCzarny | never ever use apt-get autoremove, thats for sure |
| 16:35.12 | esaym153 | KotCzarny: heh, looked into that, but it only found one package |
| 16:35.14 | KotCzarny | just go through packages trying to remove things that dont depend on system |
| 16:36.09 | KotCzarny | i can give you list of packages from my system, so you can compare |
| 16:36.36 | esaym153 | KotCzarny: like dpkg --get-selections output? (don't even know if that works on this system..) |
| 16:36.40 | KotCzarny | there is also synaptic in extras-devel (you can run it on n900 with DISPLAY pointing to your pc, so its easier to click |
| 16:36.47 | KotCzarny | esaym153: yeah |
| 16:36.56 | esaym153 | KotCzarny: yea, that will work |
| 16:37.26 | KotCzarny | do you have plain fremantle or cssu installed? |
| 16:37.38 | esaym153 | KotCzarny: this is n810 diablo |
| 16:37.44 | esaym153 | should have mentioned... |
| 16:37.56 | KotCzarny | ahm, yeah, quite important bit of info |
| 16:37.59 | esaym153 | lol |
| 16:38.18 | KotCzarny | n800 should have similar set as its also diablo |
| 16:38.26 | KotCzarny | let me find it in the stash |
| 16:38.31 | esaym153 | :) |
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| 16:50.03 | KotCzarny | cant find it |
| 16:51.22 | KotCzarny | i might've left it at gf's place |
| 16:51.56 | KotCzarny | still, make a script that lists installed packages, grabs installed sizes, sort and print out |
| 16:56.31 | esaym153 | yea |
| 17:10.36 | KotCzarny | ive found it, do you still want that list? |
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| 17:50.58 | L29Ah | does anyone run fresh marble on a n900? |
| 17:52.48 | KotCzarny | esaym153: https://transfer.sh/10ekkF/n800-diablo-packages-kc.txt |
| 17:53.06 | KotCzarny | mind you, it's not freshly flashed device (ie. its the current state of my device) |
| 17:53.43 | KotCzarny | so there are things that are not needed for other users |
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| 18:48.10 | esaym153 | KotCzarny: ty |
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| 19:49.05 | KotCzarny | hmm, is there an applet to switch usb mode? (charging only/mass storage/pc suite) |
| 19:49.15 | Wizzup | yes |
| 19:49.24 | Wizzup | in the notification/icon panel |
| 19:49.37 | KotCzarny | it only displays mode |
| 19:49.48 | KotCzarny | cant click it to change it |
| 19:49.52 | Wizzup | I think I could |
| 19:49.54 | Wizzup | are you on cssu? |
| 19:50.09 | KotCzarny | yes i think |
| 19:50.17 | Wizzup | let me try it |
| 19:51.18 | Wizzup | for me it says: "USB Connected" "Charging only" |
| 19:51.23 | Wizzup | When I press it, a menu pops up |
| 19:51.26 | Wizzup | and I can change it |
| 19:51.27 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 19:51.39 | Wizzup | but only when I start it from charging |
| 19:51.45 | Wizzup | I can't switch back from mass mode to charging only |
| 19:53.39 | L29Ah | 22:49:49]<Wizzup> are you on cssu? |
| 19:53.39 | L29Ah | i wonder what does this question mean these days |
| 19:54.01 | KotCzarny | it means that one installed one of cssu flavours |
| 19:54.15 | KotCzarny | or not (stock fremantle) |
| 19:54.16 | Wizzup | L29Ah: Why? |
| 19:55.04 | L29Ah | somewhere i saw cssu is awesome |
| 19:55.11 | L29Ah | i pressed some button "go to cssu" |
| 19:55.16 | L29Ah | and nothing changed |
| 19:55.43 | Wizzup | uh... |
| 19:55.47 | Wizzup | I think you should read the wiki |
| 19:55.52 | KotCzarny | ~cssu |
| 19:55.52 | infobot | [cssu] http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) |
| 19:56.57 | L29Ah | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Features hm ok |
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| 20:44.36 | Vajb | KotCzarny: i think that dialog only pops up when you connect your n900 to pc. |
| 20:45.10 | Vajb | and sometimes, if phone accidentally mistakes charger to be pc |
| 20:46.51 | Vajb | ceene: .21 version of yappari is working great. Two days without any crashes. Keep up the good work :) |
| 20:51.00 | KotCzarny | vajb, i was asking about some custom applet maybe |
| 20:52.30 | Vajb | well then i don't know any. |
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