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| 00:25.10 | Maxdamantus | bencoh: I'd probably need to figure out a new way to open links, and scroll. |
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| 00:26.22 | Maxdamantus | and irssi/tmux use the other |
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| 00:51.22 | bencoh | Maxdamantus: xterm allows you to remap pretty much every key sequence |
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| 09:29.53 | ceene | i may have found, once again, one possible reason for bans on group creation |
| 09:30.02 | ceene | now, would that be true? |
| 09:30.16 | ceene | could there be someone brave enough to test it? |
| 09:30.26 | ceene | i'm tired of releasing things that gets people banned :( |
| 09:31.57 | ceene | and i can't test it myself or i'd get my second number banned, and i don't think anybody would benefit from me not having access to whatsapp... |
| 09:32.26 | ceene | maybe there's some cheap way to buy a dozen or so of sims? |
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| 09:48.57 | Sicelo | ceene: i might make a plan |
| 09:49.57 | Sicelo | wishes he was still in Swaziland .. easier to get sim. no fancy registrations/paperwork |
| 09:50.07 | bencoh | is the ban permanent? |
| 09:51.00 | Sicelo | yes (qualified). they auto-unban you after like 3 months or so |
| 09:51.07 | bencoh | :/ |
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| 09:53.33 | KotCzarny | in .pl you can get no-contract sim for ~1.5usd |
| 09:54.17 | bencoh | hhmm shit I completely forgot the council election |
| 09:55.17 | Sicelo | me too :p |
| 09:55.26 | bencoh | :/ |
| 09:59.34 | Maxdamantus | Ahah. I think I figured out why my boot has been taking so long for a while .. bootmenu -_- |
| 10:01.35 | Maxdamantus | Indeed. |
| 10:02.02 | Maxdamantus | wonders how long that was there. |
| 10:02.56 | Maxdamantus | just turns into messy stuff moved around in the framebuffer, since fbcon is loaded so is printing the commands to wait for keys. |
| 10:06.30 | Sicelo | so, isn't the problem fbcon then? instead of bootmenu? |
| 10:07.29 | Sicelo | i guess many of us have bootmenu, and observe no bootup delays |
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| 10:12.19 | Maxdamantus | It's probably because I always had the slide out which probably triggered the menu to appear, but I wasn't aware of it. |
| 10:12.38 | Maxdamantus | so just saw some random commands involving `evkey` and some apparent countdown. |
| 10:12.52 | Sicelo | and you didn't even see the bootmenu screen? :p |
| 10:13.25 | Maxdamantus | Not really, because fbcon was outputting the commands over it. |
| 10:14.05 | Sicelo | ok |
| 10:14.13 | Maxdamantus | I only saw moving fragments, like the number from the countdown, and I could see it saying something like "booting from NAND" for a split second. |
| 10:14.28 | Maxdamantus | not that it was booting from NAND anyway. |
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| 10:32.20 | ceene | i wouldn't mind paying 10~15 euros for a dozen of sims |
| 10:32.22 | ceene | or whatever |
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| 10:32.49 | ceene | but here in spain you pay ~10EUR for a SIM, and although you usually get the same amount to spend on phone calls |
| 10:32.56 | ceene | i don't even spend 4 euros monthly |
| 10:33.10 | ceene | so i'd have 100 euros that I wouldn't know what to use them for |
| 10:33.27 | KotCzarny | no pay-by-sim services there? |
| 10:33.28 | KotCzarny | o.O |
| 10:33.35 | L29Ah | $0.9 in UA |
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| 10:33.56 | ceene | KotCzarny: yes, but they come preloaded with 10EUR, so you pay that |
| 10:34.21 | ceene | ah! |
| 10:34.24 | ceene | pay with your sim's money |
| 10:34.25 | ceene | nope |
| 10:35.51 | ceene | maybe there's some strange virtual mobile operator that has cheaper sims |
| 10:36.24 | KotCzarny | 10eur, right, but if you just need some disposable ones.. |
| 10:36.24 | L29Ah | tho if i were you, i'd just drop the damned service that shits on its customers |
| 10:36.50 | ceene | L29Ah: well, i'm not one of his customers, am i? |
| 10:37.02 | ceene | i don't pay them anything and I don't even use their software, just their servers |
| 10:37.09 | ceene | i'm more an abuser than an user, to be honest |
| 10:37.16 | ceene | we are all :) |
| 10:38.35 | L29Ah | then you should understand that your hack will work for some months until another update will come by and require more investment from your side and so on |
| 10:39.04 | ceene | i know that |
| 10:39.15 | ceene | i'll continue until i get tired |
| 10:39.26 | L29Ah | it's cheaper to just use email (: |
| 10:39.33 | ceene | it's not as convenient |
| 10:39.36 | ceene | i like irc much more |
| 10:39.50 | ceene | real time conversations with one or several people categorized in groups/channels |
| 10:40.06 | ceene | i don't know what jabber was invented for |
| 10:40.11 | ceene | irc does the same |
| 10:40.12 | L29Ah | decompiling stuff and reverse engineering protocols isn't convenient either |
| 10:40.18 | Sicelo | IRC \m/ |
| 10:40.27 | ceene | well, but it can be fun sometimes |
| 10:40.47 | ceene | some people enjoy running, some people enjoy resolving differential equations |
| 10:40.55 | ceene | i sometimes enjoy coding and reverse engineering protocols |
| 10:41.02 | L29Ah | uses irc over jabber because jabber features transports to other protocols and all the IM features one can imagine |
| 10:41.39 | ceene | one can do that? |
| 10:41.56 | ceene | then maybe I undervalued jabber :) |
| 10:44.50 | L29Ah | yep, and there are implementations of transports to icq and vk; i also heard about ones to msn, sms, email, facebook, aim, twitter and skype |
| 10:45.17 | L29Ah | https://github.com/stv0g/transwhat wazzup |
| 10:58.43 | ceene | cool |
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| 11:15.27 | Wizzup | Does't bitlbee do similar things for ir |
| 11:15.31 | Wizzup | for irc |
| 11:15.44 | bencoh | it does |
| 11:16.11 | sixwheeledbeast | plus jabber can do SIP |
| 11:16.37 | sixwheeledbeast | works OTB on N900 |
| 11:20.37 | ceene | another option |
| 11:20.45 | ceene | the java class that seems to manage wa protocol |
| 11:20.52 | ceene | doesn't depend on anything |
| 11:20.58 | ceene | import java.io.IOException; |
| 11:20.58 | ceene | import java.io.InputStream; |
| 11:20.58 | ceene | import java.util.Enumeration; |
| 11:20.58 | ceene | import java.util.Hashtable; |
| 11:20.58 | ceene | import java.util.Vector; |
| 11:21.01 | ceene | just that |
| 11:21.18 | ceene | i could use it as binary blob |
| 11:21.32 | ceene | no protocol mismatch ever |
| 11:24.26 | bencoh | but it's java |
| 11:24.30 | bencoh | and a blob |
| 11:24.41 | ceene | yep |
| 11:24.46 | ceene | not cool |
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| 12:00.08 | KotCzarny | ceene: in the last release add warning before connect so people wont get banned |
| 12:02.46 | ceene | uhm |
| 12:02.47 | ceene | yep |
| 12:02.56 | ceene | i should release a new one with latest change |
| 12:03.00 | ceene | and explain that in the changelog |
| 12:03.07 | ceene | or won't people read the changelog? |
| 12:03.26 | L29Ah | sure they won't |
| 12:03.37 | ceene | i could block that functionality |
| 12:03.39 | KotCzarny | yeah, and get banned |
| 12:03.47 | ceene | but i need someone that is willing to test that |
| 12:03.51 | ceene | or we'll never have that again |
| 12:03.56 | KotCzarny | sicelo agreed |
| 12:04.06 | KotCzarny | tell him what he needs to do |
| 12:04.10 | ceene | great |
| 12:04.20 | ceene | i'll be releasing that now, then |
| 12:04.30 | ceene | in the end every little change makes it better than before |
| 12:04.36 | ceene | so it can't be worse |
| 12:11.07 | KotCzarny | well, it always can be worse |
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| 15:04.21 | Sicelo | some of us do read changelogs : |
| 15:04.24 | Sicelo | :) |
| 15:04.37 | Sicelo | in fact, i hope ceene will also explain what he's found |
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| 16:08.26 | Sicelo | ceene: my sisters have worked something out. perhaps give me a link to a deb, in case autobuilder takes time |
| 16:20.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | whatsapp, ohmy. Some official entity checked whatsapp on android and found the *complete* contacts list gets instantly transferred to some US server |
| 16:20.34 | KotCzarny | he, he, 'security' |
| 16:21.48 | Sicelo | that includes KotCzarny & DocScrutinizer05's numbers too, hehe |
| 16:23.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | either you're the customer or you are the product |
| 16:24.06 | Sicelo | yeah |
| 16:24.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | depends on whether you pay or not |
| 16:24.36 | Sicelo | actually it's this very thing that i hate about whatsapp |
| 16:24.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | sometimes even then you're still the product rather than a customer |
| 16:24.54 | kerio | you could also be a reseller |
| 16:25.53 | KotCzarny | what a bout being a developer? |
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| 18:28.10 | ceene | Sicelo: thanks, but i'm not quite sure yet |
| 18:28.37 | ceene | first i thought i had found something because there was a couple lines of code that didn't belong in the place they were |
| 18:28.58 | ceene | but in the end they were doing the right thing, although not exactly in the place it should |
| 18:29.13 | ceene | but the data sent to the servers was what it had to be |
| 18:29.23 | ceene | so... nothing new for the moment |
| 18:29.24 | ceene | :( |
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| 18:32.12 | ceene | if you want, you can take a look at last commit on develop branch |
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| 19:48.08 | Sicelo | ok. will hear from you |
| 19:48.21 | Sicelo | i had looked at the code (with my limited understanding) |
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