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04:59.19OksanaaCan anybody confirm or deny that an attempt to connect to ircs://irc.freenode.net:6697 in xchat produces error "SSL handshake timed out"?
05:00.55OksanaaOS: Maemo 5, 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo11; openssl: 0.9.8zf-1
05:04.19OksanaaChatzilla works with ssl, or at least says so
05:15.38KotCzarnydoc: because it was vajb that was asking the question about dbus in the first place
05:17.18KotCzarnydoc: also, do you know the hack known as lcuk? at first i've thought about him the same (reinventing some things). pity he didnt manage to finish what he started
05:17.37KotCzarnys/do you/have you/
05:17.50KotCzarnyknown.
05:17.56KotCzarnyeh, still too sleepy
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09:54.47SiceloKotCzarny: lcuk passed on (September 2011). sad moment for maemo. he reinvented the wheel? examples?
10:02.26KotCzarnyhe wrote his own toolkit (didnt use gtk or qt)
10:02.56KotCzarnyand i know it because i was the one asking him why writing things that are already done
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10:09.14DocScrutinizer05liqbase was a complete new framework afaik
10:09.24KotCzarnys/toolkit/framework/
10:11.35DocScrutinizer05with a different target/usacase than gtk or qt
10:11.43DocScrutinizer05use*
10:12.53KotCzarnythat usecase being gtk/qt too slow and big for n900
10:13.04DocScrutinizer05hmm?
10:13.52KotCzarnyhe targetted >30fps for his apps
10:14.58DocScrutinizer05that would be prety silly for embedded
10:15.23DocScrutinizer05you're generally targeting at your app sleeping 99.99999% of time
10:16.55DocScrutinizer05since otherwise you get those damn cpu-hog apps that kill your battery in no time. We seen quite a few of them
10:19.06KotCzarnydoc, one word: kinetic scroll
10:19.11KotCzarnyerm, two words
10:19.33KotCzarnyand i didnt write that app would render all the time, only when doing work
10:26.14KotCzarnymaybe i'll write oscp-remote using liqbase one day, hum, TODO worthy
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10:44.43DocScrutinizer05dang cutetube lacks a symlink to binary from /usr/bin
10:45.26KotCzarnymake one?
10:46.26bencohlike ... half of them
10:49.59Vajbjust a thought, but maybe not reinventing the wheel was the thing that killed Nokia.
10:50.56DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# mdbus2 -l -a
10:51.10DocScrutinizer05[SIGNAL] org.freedesktop.DBus.NameOwnerChanged  /org/freedesktop/DBus  org.freedesktop.DBus
10:51.12DocScrutinizer05( "com.maemo.cuteTube", "", ":1.285" )
10:51.35KotCzarnywhich one is working? ct or ct2?
10:51.43DocScrutinizer05bencoh: yep, very common wondoze-ism
10:52.57bencohDocScrutinizer05: or plain misunderstanding of how optification was supposed to work
10:54.02KotCzarnyi like the way it is now (ie. /opt/{appname} with symlinks to /usr
10:54.47VajbKotCzarny: ct2 is working for me.
10:54.49bencohcoming from marxian that's quite surprising though
10:54.55DocScrutinizer05cutetube dbus interface seems fubar
10:55.06KotCzarnydoc, play with ct2
10:55.15KotCzarnyi think ct is unsupported
10:55.27bencohcutetube no longer play youtube videos
10:55.42Siceloi doubt gtk is/was too big for N900. rather too big/difficult for devs maybe?
10:55.44bencoh(and it's unsupported yeah)
10:56.21bencohSicelo: probably not "the right tool" when you want to do some 30fps animation and things like that
10:56.40KotCzarnyor use features available only since some much newer version
10:56.41DocScrutinizer05MDBUS2> com.maemo.cuteTube / com.maemo.cuteTube.play
10:56.42DocScrutinizer05org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: No such method 'play' in interface 'com.maemo.cuteTube' at object path '/' (signature '')
10:56.52KotCzarnydoc, use url
10:57.51DocScrutinizer05no, I won't. cutetube dbus introspection || interface method implementation is fubar
10:58.05Vajbin qml-browser thread string was com.maemo.cutetube.display string:%URL%
10:58.07KotCzarnyct1 is unsupported
10:58.13KotCzarnyno reason to play with it anyway
10:58.15KotCzarnyuse ct2
10:59.41DocScrutinizer05MDBUS2> com.
10:59.42DocScrutinizer05com.maemo.cuteTube                                            com.nokia.connui_bluetooh_status_menu_item                    com.nokia.mafw.source.MAFW-Grilo-Source.grl_youtube
10:59.44DocScrutinizer05com.nokia.CallUI                                              com.nokia.connui_cellular_status_item                         com.nokia.mafw.source.MAFW-IRadio-Source.iradiosource
10:59.45DocScrutinizer05com.nokia.HildonDesktop.AppMgr                                com.nokia.connui_internet_status_menu_item                    com.nokia.mafw.source.MAFW-UPnP-Source.upnpcontrolsource
10:59.47DocScrutinizer05com.nokia.HildonDesktop.Home                                  com.nokia.flashlight-applet                                   com.nokia.mafw.source.Mafw-Tracker-Source-Plugin.localtagfs
10:59.48DocScrutinizer05com.nokia.HildonHome                                          com.nokia.foreca_weather_applet                               com.nokia.mediaplayerhomeapplet
10:59.50DocScrutinizer05com.nokia.HildonSVNotificationDaemon                          com.nokia.foreca_weather_control                              com.nokia.microb-engine
10:59.51DocScrutinizer05com.nokia.MessagingUI                                         com.nokia.google-search-widget                                com.nokia.modest
10:59.53DocScrutinizer05com.nokia.Navigation.NokiaMapsProvider                        com.nokia.ham_updates_status_menu_item                        com.nokia.osso-mission-control
10:59.54DocScrutinizer05com.nokia.Obex                                                com.nokia.hildon_input_method                                 com.nokia.osso_abook_home_applet
10:59.56DocScrutinizer05com.nokia.PresenceUI                                          com.nokia.hildon_sb_sync                                      com.nokia.osso_addressbook
10:59.57DocScrutinizer05com.nokia.Qtm.Modest.Plugin                                   com.nokia.hildon_update_notifier                              com.nokia.osso_browser
10:59.59DocScrutinizer05com.nokia.adobe-flashplayer                                   com.nokia.image_viewer                                        com.nokia.osso_connectivity_ui_conndlgs
11:00.00DocScrutinizer05com.nokia.alarmd                                              com.nokia.ke_recv                                             com.nokia.policy.telephony
11:00.02DocScrutinizer05com.nokia.albumart                                            com.nokia.load_applet_status_area_item                        com.nokia.profiled
11:00.03KotCzarnypastebin material
11:00.03DocScrutinizer05com.nokia.as-status-applet                                    com.nokia.location-sb                                         com.nokia.rtcom-notification-ui
11:00.05DocScrutinizer05com.nokia.asmodest                                            com.nokia.maesync_controller                                  com.nokia.sharing.manager.status
11:00.06DocScrutinizer05com.nokia.assingleton                                         com.nokia.mafw-gst-renderer                                   com.nokia.simple-brightness-applet
11:00.08DocScrutinizer05com.nokia.asstatusapplet                                      com.nokia.mafw.playlist                                       com.nokia.statusbar_bluetooth_transfer
11:00.09DocScrutinizer05com.nokia.calendar                                            com.nokia.mafw.renderer.Mafw-Gst-Renderer-Plugin.gstrenderer  com.nokia.statusmenu-fmtx
11:00.11DocScrutinizer05com.nokia.cameraui                                            com.nokia.mafw.source.MAFW-Grilo-Source.grl_filesystem        com.nokia.syncd
11:00.12DocScrutinizer05com.nokia.clock.status_plugin                                 com.nokia.mafw.source.MAFW-Grilo-Source.grl_jamendo           com.nokia.xchat
11:00.14DocScrutinizer05com.nokia.clock_status_area_plugin                            com.nokia.mafw.source.MAFW-Grilo-Source.grl_shoutcast         com.tomch.recaller
11:00.15DocScrutinizer05MDBUS2> com.maemo.cuteTube
11:00.17DocScrutinizer05/
11:00.18DocScrutinizer05MDBUS2> com.maemo.cuteTube /
11:00.20DocScrutinizer05com.maemo.cuteTube.display                      org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable.Introspect  org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.GetAll
11:00.21DocScrutinizer05com.maemo.cuteTube.play                         org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Get             org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Set
11:00.23DocScrutinizer05MDBUS2> com.maemo.cuteTube / com.maemo.cuteTube.play
11:00.24DocScrutinizer05org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: No such method 'play' in interface 'com.maemo.cuteTube' at object path '/' (signature '')
11:00.26DocScrutinizer05MDBUS2>
11:00.27DocScrutinizer05damn sorry
11:00.29DocScrutinizer05damn sorry
11:00.51DocScrutinizer05meh, I got other stuff to do
11:01.07bencohprocrastination :°
11:01.11DocScrutinizer05CBA to "doc, use url"
11:01.22DocScrutinizer05"use ct2"
11:01.31DocScrutinizer05"doc, play with ct2"
11:01.53KotCzarnythat was irt to you using ct1
11:02.46DocScrutinizer05I'm not up to do *your* homework. I anyway made my point that mdbus2 works
11:02.54KotCzarnyits not my homework
11:02.58KotCzarnyvajb is playing with it
11:03.07KotCzarnyim just procrastihelping him
11:03.42DocScrutinizer05ooh and helping me too? No thanks!
11:04.04KotCzarnyyou arent doing my homework anyway
11:04.18DocScrutinizer05I'm wasting my time
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11:04.33DocScrutinizer05~question
11:04.33infobotsomebody said question was If you have a question and want people to give useful answers, make sure you have read this first: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
11:04.40KotCzarnyyeah, that's the question to the ct2 author
11:05.47DocScrutinizer05you're not helping, you drown any reasonable other advice by tons of posts
11:05.55DocScrutinizer05and ignorin g other comments
11:06.19KotCzarnyvajb, bencoh, am i helping?
11:07.24Vajbactually you do KotCzarny.
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11:08.01bencohdunno what this is all about, but I think it's pointless anyway, end-of-topic if you please :-)
11:08.20KotCzarny:)
11:08.26Vajblast nite i spent 2 hours reading ct2 source and got nowhere heheh. Maybe im not asking right q's
11:08.31DocScrutinizer05useless noise
11:08.49KotCzarnynoise with traces of signal is better than total quiet
11:09.00DocScrutinizer05no
11:09.00KotCzarnyand feeling of channel being abandoned
11:09.41bencohDocScrutinizer05: regarding mdbus2 and introspection ... do we have introspection support in maemo components?
11:09.46bencoh(I thought we didnt)
11:09.47Vajbthe art of idling :)
11:10.02DocScrutinizer05on most nokia components we dont
11:10.26DocScrutinizer05on all maemo components we should
11:10.38DocScrutinizer05iirc
11:11.09bencohoh, nice
11:11.16bencohwell ... half-nice
11:12.17DocScrutinizer05anyway cutetube has some introspection but it's obviously borked
11:14.59DocScrutinizer05Oksana: ((attempt to connect to ircs://irc.freenode.net:6697 in xchat produces error "SSL handshake timed out"?)) seen exactly same on hackint. Fixed it by adding "<IP> irc.hackint.org" to /etc/hosts
11:15.47DocScrutinizer05seems related to round-robin load balancing on DNS
11:16.13DocScrutinizer05even the sysop of hackint didn't grok it
11:16.55KotCzarnymaybe it's the ipv6 addresses in rrdns?
11:16.55DocScrutinizer05possibly a bug in dnsmasq which been wakened by new SSL details
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11:22.19DocScrutinizer05yes, rdns might be related
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11:59.57DocScrutinizer05~closed
11:59.57infobotclosed is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Why_the_closed_packages or https://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages, or http://elinux.org/N900
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12:14.04DocScrutinizer05seems we have a bug/incompatibility in maemo openssl: 0.9.8zf-1 wit recent serverside implementation, at least when it comes to DNS round-robin where the IP RDNS doesn't resolve to the URL that the cert is issued for
12:14.22DocScrutinizer05SSLv3 related?
12:18.56DocScrutinizer05http://paste.opensuse.org/82408668
12:19.21DocScrutinizer05which now works, after I did `echo '176.56.239.136 irc.hackint.org' >>/etc/hosts`
12:19.44KotCzarnyself signed cert?
12:21.15DocScrutinizer05but actually same for freenode: http://paste.opensuse.org/19930722
12:21.31KotCzarnytry it from pc
12:21.38DocScrutinizer05nevertheless in xchat it fails (until /etc/hosts hack)
12:21.42KotCzarnymaybe it's some missing intermediate certs
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12:21.47KotCzarnyyeah
12:22.18KotCzarnydoes xchat support proxy connections? (for debug)
12:22.58DocScrutinizer05[2015-08-27 Thu 13:56:01] <hexa-> we're gonna disable sslv3 completely in a a few weeks
12:24.34bencohhmm
12:24.41KotCzarnylocal proxy could fix it
12:24.45bencohand they probably disabled tls 1.0
12:25.05bencohwhich means ... openssl-0.9.8 shouldn't be able to connect to it
12:25.36DocScrutinizer05umm?
12:25.44KotCzarnybencoh: New, TLSv1/SSLv3, Cipher is DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA
12:25.51KotCzarnyhe connected via tls1
12:26.04DocScrutinizer05Oksana: see below, you might try to at least import root cert:
12:26.06DocScrutinizer05verify error:num=20:unable to get local issuer certificate
12:26.08DocScrutinizer05verify return:0
12:26.09DocScrutinizer05---
12:26.11DocScrutinizer05Certificate chain
12:26.12DocScrutinizer05<PROTECTED>
12:26.14DocScrutinizer05<PROTECTED>
12:26.15DocScrutinizer05<PROTECTED>
12:26.17DocScrutinizer05<PROTECTED>
12:26.18DocScrutinizer05---
12:26.35KotCzarnywe need update system wide ssl certs package
12:26.37bencohoh, nevermind
12:27.13KotCzarny*updated
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12:29.45DocScrutinizer05>>Accessing freenode Via SSL<< https://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml
12:31.05DocScrutinizer05>>First, ensure that your system has an up-to-date set of root CA certificates. On most linux distributions this will be in a package named something like ca-certificates. [...]  If not, you can download the required intermediate cert from Gandi and the root cert from InstantSSL.<<
12:31.32DocScrutinizer05Oksana: download, then import via settings->certman
12:32.49KotCzarnyhmm
12:32.59KotCzarnyi've just connected from stock fremantle using openssl command
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12:33.23DocScrutinizer05http://paste.opensuse.org/19930722
12:33.29DocScrutinizer05:-S
12:33.36KotCzarnyso it's not an openssl issue
12:33.44KotCzarnybut something related directly to xchat
12:33.50DocScrutinizer05aha
12:33.58DocScrutinizer05maybe read backscroll?
12:34.01KotCzarnyuse: NICK something
12:34.13KotCzarnythen: USER comething : something
12:34.24KotCzarnyit should then register you
12:34.31DocScrutinizer05so what?
12:35.01KotCzarnyso it's not an openssl problem
12:35.09DocScrutinizer05[2015-08-27 Thu 14:21:38] <DocScrutinizer05> nevertheless in xchat it fails (until /etc/hosts hack)
12:35.17KotCzarny0.9.8n-1+maemo4+0m5
12:35.33DocScrutinizer05noise
12:35.44KotCzarnyit's xchat problem
12:36.02DocScrutinizer05ooh thanks for confirming what I posted 2 lines above
12:37.04DocScrutinizer05and what about
12:37.06DocScrutinizer05[2015-08-27 Thu 14:26:06] <DocScrutinizer05> verify error:num=20:unable to get local issuer certificate
12:37.28KotCzarnyit's only for security, connection works even with self signed
12:37.42DocScrutinizer05headdesks and heads out
12:39.43bencohby the way ... should apt-get be using the rootca imported via certman ?
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12:44.02DocScrutinizer05bencoh: strace is your friend ;-)
12:49.51bencoherrr ... I didnt want to go this way with openssl stuff :D
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13:02.58KotCzarnyout of curiosity, to which ip xchat tried to connect? for me its always 193.219.128.49
13:05.06KotCzarnyputting ip in /etc/hosts resulted in 'cert not trusted' (even if i have clicked 'trust unknown certs' in options)
13:07.26DocScrutinizer05bencoh: just to see which files get accessed. Will tell you which cert gets used
13:07.47bencohyeah
13:15.20KotCzarnymaemo xchat is v2.8.6 (2008), newest is 2.8.8 (2010), built without a problem
13:17.11KotCzarnyconnected without a problem
13:17.41KotCzarnyhum.
13:17.47KotCzarnyinterface is broken tho
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13:24.26KotCzarnyok, i lied
13:24.32KotCzarnyforgot to update port
13:24.42KotCzarny'ssl handshake timed out'
13:32.12keriofwiw xchat is bugget
13:32.15kerio*bugged
13:32.18kerioit forcibly connects to ssl3
13:37.01KotCzarnyfunnily compiling statically against openssl-0.9.8zg results in instant "ssl handshake timed out"
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13:55.17Siceloseems xchat has a particular problem with ssl ... this isn't the first time iirc
14:01.20DocScrutinizer05maemo xchat is massively tweaked to work on maemo iirc
14:05.28Vajbgot ct2 dbus things via mdbus2, but got nowhere. Ct2 pops up, but doesn't start playback
14:13.47DocScrutinizer05that doesn't help to help you. please provide exact dbus message you sent
14:20.29Vajbdbus-send --type=method_call --dest=org.marxoft.cutetube2 / local.cuteTube2.DBusService.showResource string:%URL%
14:21.58Vajbit pop's ct2 and mdbus2 shows ( false )
14:22.30Vajberrr i mean if i run it as mdbus2 org....
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14:24.52DocScrutinizer05missing --print-reply
14:25.54DocScrutinizer05unless you look at reply, you'll miss any possible error message from app
14:26.45DocScrutinizer05and what's "string:RL%"?  That looks like windows batch scripting
14:26.54DocScrutinizer05dang
14:26.58DocScrutinizer05and what's "string:%URL%"?  That looks like windows batch scripting
14:27.43DocScrutinizer05%URL% is meaningless in linux, I'd guess
14:28.41DocScrutinizer05cuteTube2.DBusService.showResource sounds odd
14:29.12DocScrutinizer05I'd expect something with "play" in the name
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14:31.15DocScrutinizer05well, maybe cutetube is that weird
14:56.10Vajbit is for qml-browser url handler feature
14:56.34Vajbdidn't work with string:http://youtube...
14:57.03Vajblemme try print reply
15:00.11Vajbmdbus2 claims that --print-reply is unkown option
15:01.18Vajbah
15:01.47Vajbadded to dbus string it actually opens video to be clicked to play
15:02.02Vajbwohoo,thx a lot DocScrutinizer05
15:02.44DocScrutinizer05toldya it can't be that hard
15:03.33DocScrutinizer05--print-reply is a dbus-send option
15:03.55DocScrutinizer05dbus-send --print-reply --type=method_call --dest=org.marxoft.cutetube2 / local.cuteTube2.DBusService.showResource string:RL%
15:05.38DocScrutinizer05don't miss to enclose the URL strin into ticks" just in case you got an URL with spaces. Even better ' to avoid exploits
15:05.55Vajbwell it wasn't, but i just needed to figure what to do first :)
15:06.00DocScrutinizer05nevertheless you should properly escape the URL before you use it
15:06.20Vajbhmm like string'%URL%'?
15:06.38Vajberr missing :'
15:07.34Vajbcool works. Now when i double click youtube link in qml-broser it opens ct2 with that video
15:08.27DocScrutinizer05I still fail to grok what's %URL%. Anyway you don't want to use an URL like >>http://foo.bar";rm -rf *<< directly, depending on your interface you use to send the dbus command
15:09.13DocScrutinizer05you probably want to escape all special chars
15:10.01DocScrutinizer05http://foo.bar\"\;rm\ -rf\ \*
15:10.19DocScrutinizer05or something like that, you get the idea
15:10.47DocScrutinizer05tharnscode it e.g. space->%20
15:10.55DocScrutinizer05transcode even
15:12.27DocScrutinizer05you prolly could transcode the complete URL, every single char
15:12.31Vajbi got that url part from qml-browser thread. Marxian gave an example how to use url handlers with cutetube
15:13.01DocScrutinizer05and I gave an example how to harden it so it doesn't expose vulnerabilities
15:13.11Vajbso i use qml-browser to send that command
15:13.29Vajbhmm
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15:14.30KotCzarnyyou know what guys?
15:14.38KotCzarnyi just made xchat to connect to ssl enabled freenode
15:14.47KotCzarnywithout any /etc/ hacks
15:15.30DocScrutinizer05now go do same for hackint.org, then tell the sysop and us about it
15:15.49KotCzarnyfirst i'll try stock xchat
15:16.03DocScrutinizer05try to what?
15:16.36KotCzarnyto do the same
15:16.49KotCzarnyas i said earlier, xchat 2.8.8 works
15:17.24DocScrutinizer05you're talking in riddles
15:20.41DocScrutinizer05Vajb: (URL handler) *ought* already take care of special chars in URL string. Nevertheless it's worth checking, if any special chars get mangled maybe. Try to create - and then open - an URL with chars that have a special meaning to shell, like ; or ! or whatever. If you can't open that URL due to some shell (or whatever) parser doing special things on those special chars, your app is vulnerable and you need to escape special chars in the
15:20.43DocScrutinizer05URL
15:22.23DocScrutinizer05particularly the delimiter chars " and ' and the env var char $ are prone to get handled in a special manner
15:23.23DocScrutinizer05also check for /// and /~/
15:23.26KotCzarnydoc, it worked
15:23.31KotCzarnyie. im connected to hacking via ssl
15:23.54Vajbso you are suggesting that i replace that %url% part with that http://foo.bar etc or what?
15:23.54DocScrutinizer05it worked? you managed to delete all your files by clicking on a rogue URL? ;-P
15:24.04KotCzarnydo whois mmmmm on hackint
15:24.09DocScrutinizer05ooh, sorry wrong addressee
15:24.42KotCzarnyapparently xchat 2.8.6 has problems with 'accept invalid cert' option (ie. ignores it)
15:24.57DocScrutinizer05Vajb: a last time: %URL% is giberish to me. Are you doing this on windows?
15:25.15KotCzarny%URL% is from the source
15:25.24DocScrutinizer05KotCzarny: yes, that's quite a sound explanation
15:25.44KotCzarnybut in dbus he just need to set url param to some link
15:26.02DocScrutinizer05"from the source" oh fine!
15:26.04KotCzarnyanyway, xchat 2.8.8 works for ssl3 enabled irc servers
15:26.22KotCzarnyusing stock openssl
15:26.27DocScrutinizer05WHICH source? MSDOS .BAT? C++, Perl, Python? what?
15:26.37KotCzarnyct2 xml one
15:26.37Vajbi thought url part is for qml-browser to include that clicked url for ct2
15:27.24Sicelomsdos.bat, haha. DocScrutinizer05
15:28.26DocScrutinizer05Vajb: please note we have NFC what you're doing
15:29.39DocScrutinizer05>>[2015-08-27 Thu 16:20:29] <Vajb> dbus-send --type=method_call --dest=org.marxoft.cutetube2 / local.cuteTube2.DBusService.showResource string:%URL%<< is gibberish anyway, unless it's part of some scripting source that replaces %var% and then executes the resulting stuff in a shell
15:30.18KotCzarnyvajb: try: dbus-send --type=method_call --dest=org.marxoft.cutetube2 / local.cuteTube2.DBusService.showResource http://youtube.com/somelink
15:30.25Vajbeh. I've told several times that im playing qml-browser url-handler feature. Which is used for example to open cutetube2 when i click youtube link in qml-browser
15:30.37Vajbplaying with*
15:30.53DocScrutinizer05so you expect me to search google for the code snippet you refer to?
15:31.58KotCzarnyanyway, gotta run, bbl
15:32.26DocScrutinizer05I got a text here: "...pleases them after..." Please tell me if there belongs a comma after "them" or not
15:32.53DocScrutinizer05prolly you can't since you got no clue about the text I'm talking about
15:34.33DocScrutinizer05sbus-send is a commandline executable, so the parameters should follow commandline (aka shell) rules
15:34.41DocScrutinizer05dbus* even
15:34.56Vajbi don't have any further information of the code involved. I copied that string from marxians example for cutetube and got it work with cutetube
15:35.57Vajband this is the lines from urlhandler.conf file
15:36.00Vajb[cuteTube2]
15:36.00VajbregExp="(http(s|)://(www.|m.|)youtube.com/(v/|.+)(v=|list=|)|http://youtu.be/)"
15:36.01DocScrutinizer05~question
15:36.01infoboti heard question is If you have a question and want people to give useful answers, make sure you have read this first: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
15:36.01Vajbcommand=dbus-send --print-reply --type=method_call --dest=org.marxoft.cutetube2 / local.cuteTube2.DBusService.showResource string:%URL%
15:36.49DocScrutinizer05aha! a .conf file. That's already starting to contain some useful info now
15:37.39Vajbsorry for unclear questions. Im just user trying to add some more usability.
15:37.54DocScrutinizer05sorry for not realizing that
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15:38.30Vajbconf file is located in /home/user/.config/qmlbrowser/urlhandler.conf
15:38.35DocScrutinizer05anyway when it's a .conf file there's hardly anything you can do, except use 'ticks' around the URL
15:39.32DocScrutinizer05actually around the %URL%
15:39.57Vajblike %'url'% or '%url%'
15:40.06Vajbok thx
15:40.12DocScrutinizer05the code using the /home/user/.config/qmlbrowser/urlhandler.conf will need to escape ' in URL value then
15:40.19DocScrutinizer05the latter
15:40.28DocScrutinizer05'%url%'
15:42.14DocScrutinizer05if the thing fails with the ticks around it, you're out of luck and only can hope the author of urlhandler didn't mess up more than he already did by not expanding %var% in ticks
15:43.34DocScrutinizer05when they use exec() it shouldn't be too much of a problem, however when they use system() then you will run into problems eventually
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15:44.19Vajbyou guessed right. It fails with ticks
15:44.42Vajbonly opens ct2, but not video from url
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15:45.54DocScrutinizer05I *might* come up with something eventually. For now if you want to test this even further, please try if this works:  command=dbus-send --print-reply --type=method_call --dest=org.marxoft.cutetube2 / local.cuteTube2.DBusService.showResource string:` echo -n RL%`
15:46.11DocScrutinizer05when it works, the app is vulnerable
15:46.34DocScrutinizer05sorry
15:46.54DocScrutinizer05command=dbus-send --print-reply --type=method_call --dest=org.marxoft.cutetube2 / local.cuteTube2.DBusService.showResource string:`echo -n %URL%`
15:47.51Vajbso just add `echo -n %URL%` in .conf?
15:48.21DocScrutinizer05command=dbus-send --print-reply --type=method_call --dest=org.marxoft.cutetube2 / local.cuteTube2.DBusService.showResource string:`echo -n %URL%`    instead of    command=dbus-send --print-reply --type=method_call --dest=org.marxoft.cutetube2 / local.cuteTube2.DBusService.showResource string:%URL%
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15:50.02DocScrutinizer05` is a special char that *should not* get interpreted
15:50.29DocScrutinizer05*if* it gets interpreted nevertheless, then the above config will work
15:51.22Vajbit doesn't even open the ct2 now
15:51.30Vajbso i guess im safe?
15:51.32DocScrutinizer05which is a good thing :-)
15:51.37DocScrutinizer05yes, mostly
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15:53.47DocScrutinizer05I still suspect you *might* run into trouble with URLs that have spaces in them, but they simply will fail to open, not already damage your device
15:53.50Vajbcool. Im satisfied with it now, thx a lot. And i think that by not being clear enough i have actually learnt something by figuring some of the things on my own :)
15:55.09Vajbfor sure i have learnt more about "linux" after buing n900 than using desktop linuxes 10years
15:55.22DocScrutinizer05hehe, a known effect
15:56.15Vajbk, back to real work now :)
15:56.21DocScrutinizer05same here
15:56.35DocScrutinizer05sorry for my impatience
15:58.01DocScrutinizer05a last note: you may try "%URL%"  (doubleticks), which might or might not work and could help with URLs that contain spaces
15:59.33DocScrutinizer05those URLs will break when they contain a " then, but that's more rare to find than URLs with spaces in them
16:01.26DocScrutinizer05no warranty on the latter - when the author of the code decided that RL% gets replaced by a value that's already enclosed into doubleticks, then my suggestion is contraproductive
16:01.37DocScrutinizer05GRRR
16:01.43DocScrutinizer05no warranty on the latter - when the author of the code decided that %URL% gets replaced by a value that's already enclosed into doubleticks, then my suggestion is contraproductive
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16:05.03DocScrutinizer05however I suspect the author does their own argument parsing and using execve() or sth like that, where neither "%URL%" will work (since it doesn't get replaced by real value) nor will it be needed since that execve() call passes arguments in an array already
16:06.12DocScrutinizer05...so no matter what spaces or special chars are in your URL, they will get handed down to dbus-send verbatim
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16:44.33Vajbwith " ticks it works as expected
16:45.39Vajbso i leave them on. So far i've just tried only one video link from youtube's front page, but i guess it will work most of the time
16:47.39Vajbthis whole thing gave me an idea of even further improvement. If i could make irssi give dbus command for phone to vibrate when my nick is mentioned :) will dig into it later.
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17:06.56DocScrutinizer05Vajb: see my xchat config files, particularly http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/xchat/notify.sh
17:07.02DocScrutinizer05;-)
17:08.05DocScrutinizer05xchat using notify.sh as "sound player command"  (usually you have something like playsound or aplay or whatever in there, in xchat config)
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17:36.10kali-linuxALL YOUR BASE BELONG TO ME
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17:44.32DocScrutinizer05ARE, you forgot ARE
17:44.54DocScrutinizer05ALL YOUr BASE *ARE* BELONG TO US
17:46.13DocScrutinizer05~wiki all your base
17:48.20DocScrutinizer05https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/03/Aybabtu.png
17:52.15stryngsnice catch DocScrutinizer05
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18:27.55KotCzarnyhmm, my lock switch is almost flat
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18:59.19KotCzarny~calibration
18:59.24KotCzarny~calibrate
18:59.29KotCzarnyhrm
18:59.46KotCzarny~battery-calibration
18:59.54KotCzarny~callibration
19:00.26KotCzarny~bme
19:00.27infobotmethinks bme is http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Software_BME
19:21.03Vajb~bme-replacement
19:21.03infoboti heard bme-replacement is http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/rx51-bme-replacement  http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/projects/maemo/bme-replacement.html  See also: http://wiki.maemo.org/Bme_replacement . Please, use wiki page to report bugs/problems and/or solutions to them!, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93183
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19:46.16sixwheeledbeastKotCzarny: flat lock switch yep I have that
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19:55.05Vajbhmm flat as worn flat?
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19:55.56Vajbmy keybrd has some white spots...
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20:22.15sixwheeledbeastSorry was fitting more fans to my machine again... yes flat-flat, I use camera key to lock device for the last 2 years or more  
21:05.04bencohsixwheeledbeast: again ? :D
21:05.11bencohhow hot is it now ?
21:07.01Sicelosixwheeledbeast: why camera key? what's wrong with power key?
21:07.05sixwheeledbeastbencoh: the same, I have now lowered the HDD and MB temps tho. I have been waiting on a 4 pin fan extension cable.
21:07.30sixwheeledbeastSicelo: easier and less buggy
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21:21.25bencohsixwheeledbeast: I was looking for one two days ago
21:22.33bencohcouldn't find it in a physical store, so eventually I went for a 3-pin fan running at fullspeed all the time :/
21:22.57sixwheeledbeastebay in the end, I needed a ~900mm one. Fan in the lower front, header on the upper back.
21:23.06bencoh900mm ?
21:23.15bencohyou mean 90? :)
21:23.47sixwheeledbeastno 900
21:23.58bencohalmost one meter ?
21:24.05sixwheeledbeast:nod:
21:24.28bencohdidn't know you could use that for a computer nowadays
21:24.43sixwheeledbeastas I say the header was the complete opposite end of the board
21:25.05bencohoooh, you mean the extension cable, not the fan itself :D
21:25.19sixwheeledbeast:nod:
21:25.39sixwheeledbeastoh you meant fan :)
21:25.43bencohyeah :)
21:26.18sixwheeledbeastNo I fitted the fans last week. 3x90mm in the case and 2x120mm on the CPU
21:29.33bencohnice :)
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21:30.22bencohhm, sata hotswap really is pure love
21:35.59kerioit's not love
21:36.02kerioshrek is love
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21:46.53Win7Macsixwheeledbeast, CPU temp still below room temp? ;)
21:48.45sixwheeledbeastShowing 24C at the moment so slightly above room temp.
21:49.46Win7Macsounds reasonable, he?
21:55.27keriochecks the sensors
21:55.33kerio50°, 47°
21:55.41keriowith fans at full blast
21:55.48kerioayy lmao
21:59.36Win7Mackerio, expected temp?
21:59.56keriono clue
22:00.12kerioif i don't manually crank up the fans they stay at minimum speed
22:00.20kerioso clearly the expected temp is higher :>
22:01.50Win7Macno prob for CPU
22:02.15keriothe thermal profile of the macbook pro is always a mystery
22:03.28Win7Macmacbook, facebook... all evil ;)
22:03.43keriono way man
22:03.46kerioa macbook doesn't even have fans
22:03.48kerioi think
22:04.25Win7Machaha
22:04.54Win7Macyou're kidding...
22:04.57keriowell i mean
22:05.01kerioit's an ipad with a keyboard
22:05.13kerioand a shittier cpu, to balance the x86_64 architecture
22:06.12stryngsLet's get creepy with teh irclogs...
22:06.14stryngshttp://termbin.com/63uz
22:06.16stryngs=)
22:08.18kerioWin7Mac: 1.1ghz 2core intel core M
22:10.03Win7Macthat's in a macbook?
22:10.09bencohkerio: macbooks (not air) have fan
22:10.18bencoh+s
22:10.31keriothe ipad air 2 has a 3core 1.5ghz A8x
22:10.33bencohthey just don't use it when idling
22:10.47kerioyou can't make this shit up
22:10.57kerioWin7Mac: basically the macbook air is the macbook, the macbook is the macbook air
22:11.08bencohwhat ?
22:11.33keriobencoh: the entry-level mac laptop is the 11" macbook air, right now
22:12.14kerioand the 13" costs as much as the old "standard" macbook
22:13.00kerioand the new "macbook" is a 12" x86_64 ipad with a keyboard and twice the pricetag
22:13.08Win7Macwhatever, my point been that you can't get CPU temp below room temp, no matter what domestic fan
22:13.51keriobencoh: eyup, the macbook doesn't have a fan
22:13.59bencohkerio: macbookair ?
22:14.24keriono, macbook
22:14.26bencoh(or "entry-level mac laptop", whatever the new name is :p)
22:14.30keriohttp://www.apple.com/macbook/ this shit right here
22:14.51bencohyeah, that's an air, even if they don't call it "air" :D
22:14.52keriowith the fancy keyboard, the stupid-sounding colors and the NO USB PORTS
22:15.00keriono way
22:15.00bencohlol.
22:15.06keriothe air is actually a thing you can use to work
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23:07.52sixwheeledbeastWell I am sure the higher temp is due to, a) adjusting the CPU fan speed from FULL ON to TEMP and b) having a lot more processes going on.
23:16.28Win7Mac2still... ;) how on earth would the room temp air blowing at a heatsink propelled by domestic fans cool anything below room temp?
23:20.44kerioWin7Mac2: you need https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d0B0Dli-1g in your life
23:26.35Win7Mac2kerio, fine. But I'm talking about fans, just like sixwheeledbeast uses them...
23:27.25Win7Mac2refrigerator is a different thig of course
23:27.30Win7Mac2*thing
23:39.42Win7Mac2and again, sensors don't show absolute temps but relate to TjMax
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