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05:42.29Vajbwhat would be the correct string in browser switchboard to open link in qml-browser?
05:42.54Vajbor some other way to make it default browser?
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05:43.56Vajb%s only brings up qml "start screen"
06:02.34KotCzarnymaybe -url your-link ?
06:02.44KotCzarnytry -h from terminal
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06:07.44KotCzarnyor maybe write a little helper that would start it
06:08.45KotCzarnyhttps://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2013-November/001474.html
06:09.32KotCzarnyhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93508
06:11.35Vajbhmm
06:12.37KotCzarnytmo link is to write content/links handlers inside qml browser, so it's different thing
06:12.52KotCzarnythere is further example how to open youtube links in cutetube
06:13.43KotCzarnyalso, maybe qml uses dbus to listen for system links
06:14.29Vajbah that's where i got carried away
06:15.11Vajbi'll dig throughly when i get back on laptop
06:15.22KotCzarnybut i guess it's useful to handle a/v content as well (using gst or mafw maybe)
06:16.10Vajbhmm link handler would come handy when wanting to open youtube links in cutetube2
06:16.21KotCzarnyvajb, do you use oscp and can/want to test fmtx support?
06:16.38Vajbsorry, nope
06:16.53KotCzarnyi have some old car radio which only supports station name (8 chars) and ignoring station text (32 chars)
06:17.36KotCzarny<PROTECTED>
06:17.43KotCzarnyi think that's what you need
06:19.46Vajbyeah! Thx!
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07:42.55bencohKotCzarny: hm ... is there a proper way to open links in cutetube ?
07:43.03bencoh(apart from the "monitor copy/paste thing)
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10:30.59Vajbbencoh: fennec opens default media player when i try to play youtube video on it. So maybe you can dig info from it's source.
10:36.20bencohthe question is more about cutetube being able to handle it than the browser being able to send the event
10:36.23bencohbut thx
10:45.33KotCzarnybencoh, i think if the browser doesnt error-out on js, then its just a matter of passing that link to player
10:45.55KotCzarnyand i think cutetube accepts even plain youtube.com/v/ links etc
10:46.29KotCzarnyhttp://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1434222&postcount=29
10:46.37KotCzarnythis one is for qml-browser matcher
10:46.41bencohmaybe, but the question is how to pass it to cutetube
10:46.56bencohooh, great, thx :-)
10:47.31bencohI hope it still works with cutetube2
10:47.35KotCzarnybut it apparently calls cutetube by dbus
10:47.50KotCzarnyif one is based on the other, then it should have similar interface
10:48.05bencohnot sure about this assumption, but I'll have to try
10:50.10KotCzarnyName=org.marxoft.cutetube2
10:50.28KotCzarnywonder if its the same cutetube2
10:52.21KotCzarnyhmm, there is also cutetube-qml
10:53.32KotCzarnyqmltube - YouTube and Dailymotion client with lots of features
10:53.57KotCzarnydrat, i need second n900 for testing all those apps
10:54.04sixwheeledbeastI believe qml has not been updated in a long while.
10:56.28Vajbi have similiar opinion. I think qml version worked till cutetube
10:56.57Vajband since they both stopped working somebody came up with ct2
10:59.43KotCzarnyi think all they need is updating google parsing
10:59.54KotCzarnyrest would work the same
11:00.10KotCzarnywould be nice to have some yt-lib
11:21.18bencohVajb: "somebody" is the author of both qml and cutetube :)
11:22.16bencohhe started working on the qyoutube/qdailymotion libs before ct stopped working
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11:33.11Vajboh well. Then it was just my feeling that they stopped working simultaneously :)
11:40.46bencohI think ct2 was publicly released pretty close to it
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13:07.49bencoh~repos
13:07.49infobotrepos is probably deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./
13:07.56KotCzarny~maemo-repos
13:07.56infobotrumour has it, maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories
13:08.32bencohyeah, trying to change ~repos, muarf.org is back online :)
13:08.42KotCzarnyrepos is hardcoded
13:08.58KotCzarnyeven pali (or doc, dont remember) wasnt able to change it
13:09.09bencohwtf :D
13:09.28KotCzarnyinfobot: forget repos
13:09.28infoboti didn't have anything called 'repos' to forget, KotCzarny
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13:10.58KotCzarnydo you have ovi repo on muarf too?
13:11.30bencohI do but you need the nokia repository password
13:11.45KotCzarnyyou may add it to that wiki page
13:12.27bencohyeah I'm still wondering whether I should add the complete url with user:pass or just give a hint
13:12.34Svetlanagive a hint
13:12.35KotCzarnygive a hint
13:12.40Svetlana:)
13:13.20bencohthe apt-mirror wiki page has the full (user:pass) link, but it points to nokia ... which is quite not the same :)
13:14.04KotCzarnydoes that pass matter much?
13:14.46bencohevery maemo/harmattan user should be able to retrieve it from a running system
13:14.57KotCzarnybut does it matter in any way?
13:15.02bencohand it's publicly available on the wiki
13:15.03bencohdunno
13:15.05KotCzarnyis it used anywhere else?
13:15.08bencohno
13:15.17KotCzarnyis there something special that needs pass?
13:15.26bencoh?
13:15.36bencohwell, it's ovi
13:15.56KotCzarnybecause if pass is the same for everyone and not personalized in any way
13:16.01bencohI know it all died a long time ago and all, but it's still 3rd-party software
13:16.48bencohinfobot: repos =~ s/maemo//
13:16.48infobotbencoh: i didn't have anything called 'repos' to modify
13:16.55bencohmeh, alright, alright
13:17.08KotCzarnyhehe
13:17.14bencohwho the hell hardcoded that? tim?
13:17.36KotCzarny~repo
13:17.36infobotThe webos-internals source code repositories are hosted at http://gitorious.org/webos-internals and http://gitorious.org/webos-applications
13:18.01bencohhaha
13:18.06KotCzarnyi wonder if this is just random talk or used by anyone
13:18.33bencohthis probably was used by some of the webos community :)
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16:09.25DocScrutinizer05KotCzarny: don't mess with infobot, maemo doesn't own it!
16:09.47KotCzarnydoc: still, 'repos' factoid seems hardcoded
16:10.28DocScrutinizer05and *I* can change almost everything in infobot database
16:10.31KotCzarnywhich is even more weird if you say 'maemo doesnt own it'
16:11.39DocScrutinizer05nothing is hardcoded. Please don't mess with factoid database unless you really understand how it works
16:11.50DocScrutinizer05~factinfo repos
16:11.50infobotthere's no such factoid as repos, DocScrutinizer05
16:11.57DocScrutinizer05~factinfo #maemo repos
16:11.57infobot#maemo repos -- created by DocScrutinizer05 <~saturn@openmoko/engineers/joerg> at Sat Jul 11 20:08:56 2015 (45 days); it has been requested 18 times, last by bencoh, 3h 4m 8s ago.
16:12.06DocScrutinizer05literal repos
16:12.10DocScrutinizer05~literal repos
16:12.10infobot"#maemo repos" is "deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./"
16:12.34DocScrutinizer05~chanset #maemo
16:12.34infobotchan: #maemo (see _default also)
16:12.34infobot<PROTECTED>
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16:13.36KotCzarnywhat is the meaning of 'literal' and how does it relate to factoids
16:13.50DocScrutinizer05~repos
16:13.50infobotrepos is, like, deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./
16:13.56DocScrutinizer05~literal repos
16:13.56infobot"#maemo repos" is "deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./"
16:14.18DocScrutinizer05~+help
16:15.01DocScrutinizer05~+help literal
16:16.14KotCzarnyso, it's just a debug command, still, how one would change it when "infobot: repos is ..." isn't working?
16:21.20bencohno infobot: #maemo repos is "deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./"
16:21.27bencohmeh
16:21.39bencohno, infobot, #maemo repos is "deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./"
16:21.47bencoh~repos
16:21.47infobotmethinks repos is deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./
16:21.58bencohdidnt change a thing
16:22.08KotCzarnytry: infobot: no, ... is ...
16:22.08bencoh(there is one more space)
16:22.30KotCzarnyit has to ack the command too
16:22.43bencohinfobot: no, #maemo repos is "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./"
16:22.43infobotokay, bencoh
16:22.47bencohwoooh
16:22.48bencoh~repos
16:22.48infobotmethinks repos is "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./"
16:23.14bencohthx
16:23.50KotCzarnyalso i think "" aren't needed
16:25.22bencohactually it should be multiline to be copypastable, but I'm not sure that's even possible
16:25.32KotCzarnynot on irc
16:26.25KotCzarnythat's why i made wiki page (copypastable)
16:27.11KotCzarnywhich also helps users not knowledgeable with apt/app manager
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16:42.41DocScrutinizer05infobot: no, #maemo repos is "deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;;
16:42.41infobotokay, DocScrutinizer05
16:43.07KotCzarnyfail?
16:43.07DocScrutinizer05ooh, you already had it like that
16:43.17KotCzarnyyou cut it in half
16:43.21DocScrutinizer05infobot: no, #maemo repos is "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./"
16:43.21infobotDocScrutinizer05: okay
16:44.12DocScrutinizer05bencoh: multiline not possible
16:45.03bencohmmkay
16:45.48DocScrutinizer05infobot: #maemo repos is also see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories
16:45.48infobotokay, DocScrutinizer05
16:46.12DocScrutinizer05~literal maemo-repos
16:46.12infobot"maemo-repos" is "http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories"
16:46.42DocScrutinizer05infobot: no, maemo-repos is <reply>see #maemo repos
16:46.42infobotokay, DocScrutinizer05
16:47.03DocScrutinizer05~maemo-repos
16:47.03infoboti guess #maemo repos is "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./", or see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories
16:47.27bencohpfew :D
16:49.27DocScrutinizer05~listvalues downloads.maemo
16:50.03DocScrutinizer05~listkeys repo
16:50.40bencohwow, listvalues ... that's cool
16:52.10DocScrutinizer05please alsways use #maemo prefix for factoids that are maemo specific
16:52.45DocScrutinizer05e.g. maemo repostitories are. Systemd isn't
16:53.03DocScrutinizer05~systemd
16:53.03infobotsystemd cabal: a bunch of people (Lennart Poettering, Kay Sievers, Harald Hoyer, Daniel Mack, Tom Gundersen, David Herrmann) who want to turn linux into their wet dream perverted version of windows-me-too: http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html -- Rumor has it that 2016 systemd will have replaced kernel, or see https://devuan.org  http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemd
16:53.55DocScrutinizer05note that #maemo prefixed factoids are not directly available in other channels. they however are available as ~#maemo <factoid key>
16:54.07DocScrutinizer05~+chaninfo
16:54.07infobot123/123 channels, 4769 users, 3650 unique: #debian/1702, #kde/438, #gsoc/321, #asterisk/215, #maemo/186, #oe/153, #wowuidev/134, #wowace/91, #cubieboard/88, #neo900/85, #utah/84, #harmattan/66, #meego/62, #wowhead/60, #asterisk-dev/57, #bzflag/53, #openmoko/52, #qi-hardware/52, #arm-netbook/50, #webos-internals/46, #openmoko-cdevel/45, #maemo-ssu/44, #elinux/40, #curseforge/37, #uphpu/29, #sc2mapster/28, #debianppc/26, #brlcad/25, #slug/25, ...
16:57.03DocScrutinizer05~+status
16:57.03infobotSince Tue Aug 25 05:41:59 2015, there have been 5 modifications, 28 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 16 commands.  I have been awake for 1d 11h 15m 4s this session, and currently reference 119436 factoids.  I'm using about 85424 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 211.15/3.44 child 0/0
17:01.22DocScrutinizer05before changing a factoid, do a ~literal <factoid> and a ~factinfo <factoid> and make sure you don't kick out legit previous content
17:02.24DocScrutinizer05general policy: as long as you're not absolutely sure you know more recent info, the factoid is right and owned by the one who created it. You shouldn't hijack factoids
17:16.32KotCzarny~maemo-repos
17:16.32infobotit has been said that #maemo repos is "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./", or see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories
17:16.35KotCzarnyhmm
17:16.37KotCzarnylong
17:20.29KotCzarnyearlier version was more to the point
17:20.59KotCzarnynot to mention muarf is fremantle specific, where wiki is for all nits
17:29.53DocScrutinizer05then don't call the factoid maemo-repos! :-S
17:30.07KotCzarnyum?
17:30.27KotCzarnybut #maemo repos isnt equal to maemo-repos
17:31.09DocScrutinizer05I yes, I cleary see the semantic difference. It's the void spaces, right?
17:31.18KotCzarnynope
17:31.27KotCzarnyrepos is vague
17:32.28DocScrutinizer05right, and so you assigned repos=http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/  and now complain that maemo-repos which forwards to #maemo repos == repos is not fremantle specific
17:32.40DocScrutinizer05sorry your logic eludes me
17:32.42KotCzarnyno, repos was bencohs muarf
17:33.42KotCzarnyi didnt create repos factoid
17:34.01DocScrutinizer05but I will when you can't come up with something sensible
17:34.40KotCzarnyi come up with something sensible, which is wiki page
17:34.54DocScrutinizer05so why you complain about factoids?
17:34.56KotCzarnyand which has enough information
17:35.07DocScrutinizer05meh, afk
17:35.09KotCzarnybecause i liked maemo-repos as a link
17:35.41KotCzarnyinfobot: no, maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories
17:35.41infobotKotCzarny: okay
17:35.59DocScrutinizer05~forget maemo-repos
17:36.00infobotDocScrutinizer05: i forgot maemo-repos
17:36.10KotCzarnyit was my factoid
17:36.16KotCzarnywhy did you change it?
17:36.16DocScrutinizer05~maemo-repos is foo
17:36.16infobotokay, DocScrutinizer05
17:36.25DocScrutinizer05~lock maemo-repos
17:36.25infobotDocScrutinizer05: locking factoid maemo-repos
17:36.45DocScrutinizer05I changed it because that is a mess
17:36.52KotCzarnyit is not
17:37.00KotCzarnymaemo is not only fremantle
17:37.07KotCzarny~repos
17:37.07infobot[repos] "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./", or see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories
17:37.18KotCzarnynow, how can i check repos for diablo?
17:37.28DocScrutinizer05how did you before?
17:37.34KotCzarnyi wasnt able
17:37.44KotCzarnythats why i've added repos info to the wiki page
17:37.50DocScrutinizer05so?
17:37.56KotCzarnyso it was easy to use
17:38.02DocScrutinizer05so?
17:38.27KotCzarnyso how can i ask infobot about repos for diablo?
17:38.36DocScrutinizer05how did you before?
17:38.42KotCzarnywith ~maemo-repos
17:38.51DocScrutinizer05now you got ~repos
17:38.55KotCzarny~repos
17:38.56infobotmethinks repos is "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./", or see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories
17:40.02DocScrutinizer05~lock #maemo repos
17:40.02infobotlocking factoid #maemo repos, DocScrutinizer05
17:40.23KotCzarnyi didnt touch ~repos
17:40.36DocScrutinizer05afk
17:40.36KotCzarnynow you've borken ability to update it
17:41.06KotCzarnywhich means if at any given time muarf moves, then factoid would be greatly obsolete
17:41.53DocScrutinizer05~unlock #maemo repos
17:41.53infobotunlocking factoid #maemo repos, DocScrutinizer05
17:43.11KotCzarnystill, i think ~maemo-repos was more convenient
17:43.26KotCzarnyand versatile
17:43.29DocScrutinizer05ffs
17:43.42DocScrutinizer05~unlock maemo-repos
17:43.42infobotDocScrutinizer05: unlocking factoid maemo-repos
17:44.09DocScrutinizer05infobot: no, maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories
17:44.09infobotDocScrutinizer05: okay
17:44.15KotCzarnythank you
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18:31.30Vajbbencoh: did you get that url handler to work with cutetube2
18:31.55Vajbqml-browser url handler i mean ^
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18:48.05KotCzarnyvajb: you can use python to easily test it
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18:49.51KotCzarnyor even command line
18:49.55KotCzarny(dbus-send)
18:51.59KotCzarnygoogled example: dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=com.nokia.mce /com/nokia/mce/request
18:51.59KotCzarnycom.nokia.mce.request.req_tklock_mode_change string:unlocked
18:53.18KotCzarnyerm. scratch that, you are talking about qml syntax
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19:27.04DocScrutinizer05~phonecontrol
19:27.04infobotwell, phonecontrol is http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control
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19:28.50DocScrutinizer05http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Open_file_in_media_player
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20:17.48Vajbyup. Im talking about qml-browser
20:17.52Vajbi copied those lines to url handler and changed name according to your information here about cutetube2, but it doesn't work as expected. So i decided to ask if bencoh got it working :)
20:18.15KotCzarnyvajb, most likely interface name changed
20:18.32KotCzarny(which is logical if one had both ct and ct2 for example)
20:20.16Vajbyeah
20:20.30Vajbi need to figure it out
20:20.44Vajbtho im not that addicted to youtube services
20:20.50DocScrutinizer51use dbus introspection, us mdbus2
20:20.55DocScrutinizer51use*
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20:21.57Vajbmm so i want youtube links in qml-browser to open in ct2
20:22.26KotCzarnyfirst figure out the ct2 dbus interface
20:22.33DocScrutinizer51mdbus2 has *very* convenient completion on tab, just like bash only for dbus namespace
20:22.47KotCzarnyand use python or dbus-send to control ct2
20:25.26DocScrutinizer51don't forget to *strart* ct2 before you hit tab-tab in mdbus2
20:27.16DocScrutinizer51honestly you don't really want to mess with dbus when you lack mickey's-dbus2
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20:28.14KotCzarnyi will need to add dbus listener to oscp one day, eh
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20:33.17KotCzarnyhttps://github.com/marxoft/cutetube2/blob/master/app/dbus/org.marxoft.cutetube2.xml
20:34.38DocScrutinizer51sure, why use simple tools when you can also search and find and study the source ;-P
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20:35.15KotCzarnybecause i dont have cssu-thumb installed
20:35.17KotCzarny:P
20:35.34KotCzarnyor cssu in that matter
20:35.57DocScrutinizer51tou're aware that a simple dbus introspection yields basically same info?
20:36.26DocScrutinizer51and how thumb comes in there?
20:36.53KotCzarnyi think qml was for cssu-thumb or something
20:37.32DocScrutinizer51you seem to have a faible for assumptions
20:37.41KotCzarnycould be
20:38.18KotCzarnyi assume i should go to sleep, it's pretty late
20:41.37Vajbwee i got qml browser to launch ct2 now
20:41.43KotCzarny:)
20:41.59KotCzarnydont forget to document it on tmo or wiki
20:42.06Vajbbut url is not following so i guess it needs something more than just changed dbus commands
20:42.38Vajbi had few typos there so that's why it didn't open at first place
20:42.57Vajbi don't have maemo or wiki account :-s
20:43.07KotCzarnymake one?
20:43.33Vajbnever thought someone would actually care what i do or tweak :-p
20:43.59KotCzarnyhow do you think many of the hacks you are using came to life? :P
20:44.04Vajbbut yeah. I will, but this is not the day
20:44.12Vajbtrue that hehe
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20:56.40DocScrutinizer51how about you start to assume I won't suggest stuff that's not applicable for you without special prerequisites I forgot to mention
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21:01.28DocScrutinizer51http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2010/02/11/mdbus2-for-maemo5/
21:03.47KotCzarnyyour assumption that vajb is here failed
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21:04.35KotCzarnyanyway, sleepy time
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21:07.11DocScrutinizer51what makes you think I'm talking to anobody else but you?
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21:10.57DocScrutinizer51just out of curiousity: how old are you?
21:11.46DocScrutinizer51if I had to guess I'd say 16<x<23
21:12.29DocScrutinizer51you got that self confidence of youth
21:25.55Vajbwho me?
21:28.56DocScrutinizer51nah, KotCzarny
21:30.34DocScrutinizer51he's very active but more often than not ignoring suggestions and so reinventing the weel
21:32.28Vajbi guess he just wants to make stuff work by his own means
21:33.02DocScrutinizer51yes, that's exactly the way it seems
21:33.54DocScrutinizer51alas this generlly (not specifically limited to him) leats to a special sort of bitrotting
21:34.12DocScrutinizer51lemme call it knowhow-rotting
21:34.44DocScrutinizer51leads*
21:36.03DocScrutinizer51this knowhow fade+away is a general disease in maemo since 4 years
21:37.30DocScrutinizer515 years ago we even had cracks like javispedro who understood audio
21:39.03DocScrutinizer51without those guys and gals stuff like H-E-N never whould have get finished
21:42.29Vajbyeah. You all have been doing amazing stuff for maemo
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22:04.34bencohVajb: haven't tried yet
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22:09.41Vajbi have and so far i can only make it launch ct2. Not to play anything
22:14.11bencohI'd try and read the source at that point
22:18.20Vajbthat's what i thought also. Only problem is i don't know what im doing :D
22:18.39Vajbbut that'll be tomorrows problem
22:20.11bencohhm yeah :)
22:21.04bencohwell I still need to figure how to plug two more disks in this server and keep everything running without making a cable mess and launch a pvmove ...
22:21.25bencohdoinging this at 00:21 isn't really the best thing I could come up with ...
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